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  • cocknocker
    Restricted User
    • 11-06-08
    • 8001

    #36
    Originally posted by mcbaseball10
    Chris Jakubauskas (R) pitching for Seattle tomorrow.

    I just panned Seattle. They don't make the cut
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    • whatisit
      SBR Sharp
      • 01-25-09
      • 319

      #37
      nm bad info
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      • suicidekings
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 03-23-09
        • 9962

        #38
        Thursday:

        TOR (-130) @ MIN
        - In his career, Halladay has an ERA vs MIN of 2.92, a 7-0 record and has averaged just under 8 IP per start (9 GS) against the Twins. I can see the other side of the argument for Liriano, but I would have a hard time going against Roy in this game.

        FLO @ ATL (-135)
        -
        This is the first game in the series in which the Braves have had the edge on the mound. I expect them to capitalize on it and take this game before they head to PIT.
        ________________________________________ _____________

        Computer Modeling Day 2

        Wednesday was my first day of posting the selections of my newly completed database experiment. It went 11-3-1 in it's first public day, so I expect it to even out today...

        Thursday, the computer says: ATL, PIT, CLE, PHI, SD, LAD, TOR, LAA, STL, TB
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        • danrman
          SBR MVP
          • 08-30-08
          • 2696

          #39
          Originally posted by j0hnnyv
          i locked in yankees -1.5+108 (5dimes)

          i dare the indians to beat the yanks with CC on the hill in their home opener in that beautiful ballpark.

          its not happening!!!!!!!!!
          i'd say thats just about what everybody thinks and thats why im on cleve and cleve +1 1/2

          also gimme minny,pirates over,cubs,nym.. its funny ck.. most of the time we think alike.. i just wish when i talked to you.. you might talk back sometime but i guess thats your perogative isnt it..
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          • danrman
            SBR MVP
            • 08-30-08
            • 2696

            #40
            if the yanks game goes under they wont win by 2 cause the house would get killed on both bets..
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            • VVET
              SBR High Roller
              • 01-17-09
              • 120

              #41
              Kid form the Bronx and remembering the days of Mantle and Marris and the rest of the great crew. Home town fan? Absolutely! Emotional bet? Some. But these are the facts - CC isn't as bad as others are saying - overpriced perhaps, but still a very good pitcher and he needed some warm up time. Anyone ever been at Yankee stadium on opening day? I have been to several - the place rocks! And the new stadium? Well, I can still here the El in the background and the ghosts of the Babe and Joe D and the rest still linger in the tunnel when our boys walk through and onto that field for the opener. I'm taking them on the run-line. That my friends, seems like a bargain. BOL to all of us!
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              • ragiche
                SBR MVP
                • 12-09-08
                • 3110

                #42
                I'm gonna take the braves to avoid the sweep.(heavy).Also playing the indians +1.5 and the Cubs RL.
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                • ragiche
                  SBR MVP
                  • 12-09-08
                  • 3110

                  #43
                  Showtime,

                  I followed you on the pucks last night.Nice work..Do you have any for tonight?
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                  • showtime2000
                    SBR MVP
                    • 11-09-08
                    • 1054

                    #44
                    Hey Ragiche thanks! Early lean for tonight is,

                    Calgary (Chicago has become the public darlings like Carolina last night and they got THUMPED!)


                    looking at a 2 overs, Col/Det and Mon/Bos. Will confirm later on in the day.
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                    • Jimbo42
                      SBR MVP
                      • 01-04-09
                      • 2076

                      #45
                      Cleveland is the play in the Bronx... Its tough for a team to come home after being on the road (alot of distractions)... The opening of Yankee Stadium would qualify as a major distraction. Yankees offense not exactly lighting it up (4 runs last game)...You think CLE is just gonna bop around and win one game here and there? Baseball is a game of streaks...this is a good spot to get two wins in a row... with big plus money..
                      Booked:

                      Cleveland +170
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                      • Jimbo42
                        SBR MVP
                        • 01-04-09
                        • 2076

                        #46
                        Also,
                        Booked:

                        St. Louis -105
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                        • ragiche
                          SBR MVP
                          • 12-09-08
                          • 3110

                          #47
                          Thanks again showtime.I will follow you on this one too.Calgary.And i'm gonna wait for your post later on the pucks.Gonna prepare myself for work now.See ya later.And Ck,great call.Yesterday. Both of you.
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                          • MoneyintheBank09
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 02-04-09
                            • 680

                            #48
                            i am all on cleveland and over on the giants game too i saw those last night and liked them but i also got to take the over in the giants first half. like i said the last time zito will give up the first half line in the first if not the second inning by him self. !!!
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                            • WhatAboutMeBitch
                              SBR MVP
                              • 01-02-09
                              • 1294

                              #49
                              Originally posted by cocknocker
                              The Cubs sound good Spotsguy. CC is NOT a -200 pitcher in the American League whee everybody has already seen what he has to offer.

                              how many guys on this Indians team have seen what he has to offer, from the position of batting though?

                              I mean I've watched CC alot, doesn't mean I can hit him. This will be the first time hitting against CC for about 90% of the lineup today
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                              • cocknocker
                                Restricted User
                                • 11-06-08
                                • 8001

                                #50
                                Originally posted by danrman
                                i'd say thats just about what everybody thinks and thats why im on cleve and cleve +1 1/2

                                also gimme minny,pirates over,cubs,nym.. its funny ck.. most of the time we think alike.. i just wish when i talked to you.. you might talk back sometime but i guess thats your perogative isnt it..
                                PM me babe, then I can talk to ya. It's kind of hard to scroll through the whole thread and get answers to everybody. But you aren't being singled out or anything. Just an honest mistake on my part. I see yaout there puttin' in work!
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                                • cocknocker
                                  Restricted User
                                  • 11-06-08
                                  • 8001

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by WhatAboutMeBitch
                                  how many guys on this Indians team have seen what he has to offer, from the position of batting though?

                                  I mean I've watched CC alot, doesn't mean I can hit him. This will be the first time hitting against CC for about 90% of the lineup today

                                  Hot bats are just that. Hot bats. The Indians havehad 20 hits in their last 2 games, and the Yankees (with the big payroll) have only had 15. Cliff Lee OWNS the Yankees too. 2 bad starts doesn't mean he's washed up. It just means that he is due for a correction. The real question is how are the Yankees supposed to start hitting Lee all of a sudden? It hasn't happened since 2004.

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                                  • ASH0479
                                    SBR Sharp
                                    • 02-24-09
                                    • 491

                                    #52
                                    ....

                                    CK what up brother....

                                    I am liking Pitt and Houston to go over the total as well, i saw you hinted at that earlier, I posted my picks on my thread, keep up the good fight on the books!
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                                    • cocknocker
                                      Restricted User
                                      • 11-06-08
                                      • 8001

                                      #53
                                      Bad reverse movement with the Braves so far. With 61% of bettors thinking they will avoid the sweep the line has gone down from an opening of -144 to -122 on some books.


                                      The best line movement of the day is the Nats controlling the line with only 21% of bettors on their side, the line for the World Series Champs started at -136 and is down to -133 on some books

                                      and

                                      The Cardinals are also controlling the line as well with only 30% of bettors on their side, theline was offered initially at Cubs-118, and the line has gone in reverse to as low as -109 on some books, which is significant, and makes the Cardinals a wonderful play today. And why not? Their bats are hot as shit and the boppers in the middle of the lineup are underperforming. This movement is a little too hard for me to ignore, especially with a quality team like the Red Birdies. It is rar to find gameswhere both sides are for negative money, which means this game is a toss up. Give me the reigning NL MVP and the great supporting cast. So far I have basically 3 games I am wagering on. Might as well roll with Jimbo and take the

                                      Cardinals-105
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                                      • cocknocker
                                        Restricted User
                                        • 11-06-08
                                        • 8001

                                        #54
                                        Yippie Yi-Yo Mini Sirloin Burgers! I don't know why that jingle is stuck in my head. I hate fast food
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                                        • WhatAboutMeBitch
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 01-02-09
                                          • 1294

                                          #55
                                          Cliff Lee had a horrible spring. I expect a trip to the DL soon
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                                          • WhatAboutMeBitch
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 01-02-09
                                            • 1294

                                            #56
                                            [quote=cocknocker;1750307]Hot bats are just that. Hot bats. The Indians havehad 20 hits in their last 2 games, and the Yankees (with the big payroll) have only had 15. Cliff Lee OWNS the Yankees too. 2 bad starts doesn't mean he's washed up. It just means that he is due for a correction. The real question is how are the Yankees supposed to start hitting Lee all of a sudden? It hasn't happened since 2004.

                                            Hot bats go cold real fast.... how did Tampa Bay do the 2 games before almost getting no-hit by burnett, how did the A's hit the 2 games before almost getting no-hit by wakefield? Is that how you cap really?
                                            it works both ways.

                                            and i'm not sure what it matters how guys like sheffield, Giambi, Tino Martinez, Bernie Williams, Cairo, guel, phillips, crosby, abreu, ensberg did against Lee that last 5 years. tell me how today's pinstripes have fared against him, that is a bit more meaningful.

                                            I'm an Indian fan, and I hope Lee can pull it together, but somthing is wrong with his delivery and his head. he is not able to duplicate his delivery and his arm slot is all fuked up. He hasn't been good since the beginning of sept. he tanked his last handful of starts, was the most hittable pitcher in spring training, and has sucked in two starts. I pray he pulls it together, but people need to look at what he is doing in his delivery this year, and not worrying about his stats from 4 or 5 years ago
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                                            • Alexander
                                              SBR High Roller
                                              • 08-17-08
                                              • 223

                                              #57
                                              MY PICKS:
                                              LOCKS:

                                              -BRAVES-AVOID THE SWEEP
                                              -Pirates- Easy one men

                                              -Indians +1.5- CC Is not that good Lee is the cy young remember

                                              -Cardinales- Simply better pitching Marshall sucks hahaha
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                                              • shoebox
                                                Restricted User
                                                • 11-26-08
                                                • 5710

                                                #58
                                                FINAL PLAYS

                                                BLUE JAYS -140 4 UNITS
                                                BRAVES -145 2 UNITS
                                                PADRES +115 2 UNITS

                                                LETS GET THIS BACK LAST THREE LOSSES WERE BY 1 RUN, CLOSE ONLY COUNTS IN HORSESHOES AND HAND GERNADES............


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                                                • Euphoria38
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 09-04-08
                                                  • 1188

                                                  #59
                                                  Am I Drunk? MCCANN AND CHIPPER JONES ARE OUT! AND YOU ALL ARE TAKING THE BRAVES AND SOME 30 YEAR OLD GOOK WHO HAS AN AVERAGE FASTBALL AND A SLOW HOOK!!!!!!

                                                  FISH!!!! THE BRAVES HAVE NO HITTING TODAY AND MAYBE UNDER 9!

                                                  I also like Yankees -1.5, Indians wont hit today Cliff Lee gives it up in the 4th or 5th.

                                                  And Houston +1.5

                                                  BUT SERIOUSLY NO MCCANN AND NO CHIPPER, FISH SWEEP THIS ISNT EVEN HARD TO THINK ABOUT!
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                                                  • shoebox
                                                    Restricted User
                                                    • 11-26-08
                                                    • 5710

                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by Euphoria38

                                                    30 YEAR OLD GOOK WHO HAS AN AVERAGE FASTBALL AND A SLOW HOOK!!!!!!


                                                    BUT SERIOUSLY NO MCCANN AND NO CHIPPER, FISH SWEEP THIS ISNT EVEN HARD TO THINK ABOUT!

                                                    I think we found ourselves a racist

                                                    BTW

                                                    Baseballs a team sports missing one or two guys will not hurt them, you no nothing and being so derrogatory to another race is unacceptable and shows your true colors
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                                                    • Euphoria38
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 09-04-08
                                                      • 1188

                                                      #61
                                                      Ah so just because I used a derrogatory term brands my entire baseball knowledge as ignorant eh? LOL

                                                      BTW Atleast I have a reason for making a selection, i just see a post on here from you. You enjoy tailing people or do you have a mind of your own?
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                                                      • shoebox
                                                        Restricted User
                                                        • 11-26-08
                                                        • 5710

                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by Euphoria38
                                                        Ah so just because I used a derrogatory term brands my entire baseball knowledge as ignorant eh? LOL

                                                        BTW Atleast I have a reason for making a selection, i just see a post on here from you. You enjoy tailing people or do you have a mind of your own?

                                                        Home teams win at a higher winning %, its hard to get swept, especially at home. Law of averages playing with the numbers here

                                                        I dont like racist pricks like you, so I am done talking to you
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                                                        • shoebox
                                                          Restricted User
                                                          • 11-26-08
                                                          • 5710

                                                          #63
                                                          [quote=Euphoria38;1750490]Ah so just because I used a derrogatory term brands my entire baseball knowledge as ignorant eh? LOL

                                                          BTW Atleast I have a reason for making a selection, i just see a post on here from you. You enjoy tailing people or do you have a mind of your own?[/quote]


                                                          Your so hopeless, you poor thing
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                                                          • Euphoria38
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 09-04-08
                                                            • 1188

                                                            #64
                                                            Home teams win at a higher % in any sport. And yes baseball is a team-sport just like basketball... but when LeBron is out do you think the cav's have a lower percentage winning at home? You can compare a perenial allstar like Chipper Jones on the same caliber as him.

                                                            Actually you know what, no I refute myself. Baseball deals more with individual play then other team sports. But nonetheless, the comparison between someone like LeBron and Chipper still hold valid.

                                                            And I used a rediculous home record team to prove my point.

                                                            So far shoebox you have used a well known and common knowledge statistic to refute me, show me some more statistics and I will shut up. Otherwise, quit being emotional.
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                                                            • shoebox
                                                              Restricted User
                                                              • 11-26-08
                                                              • 5710

                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by Euphoria38
                                                              Home teams win at a higher % in any sport. And yes baseball is a team-sport just like basketball... but when LeBron is out do you think the cav's have a lower percentage winning at home? You can compare a perenial allstar like Chipper Jones on the same caliber as him.

                                                              And I used a rediculous home record team to prove my point.
                                                              Once again showed your ignorance

                                                              basketball and baseball apples and oranges totally different animal

                                                              Your comparing Chipper to Lebron, you gave me a good laugh thanks kid.......
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                                                              • cocknocker
                                                                Restricted User
                                                                • 11-06-08
                                                                • 8001

                                                                #66
                                                                Euphoria,

                                                                That was a VERY wrong thing to say and it may offend our Asiatic brothers on the thread. Baseball is just what it is. But comments like that are also just what they are...unnecessary. I would like to think that you aren't racist and were just being funny. One time i was in the Ice Creamery down by Lake Merrit some years ago. I saw an Asian man sitting at a table eating ice cream and sandwiches with his family. Then some idiot black guy walks in the door with his girlfriend. She passes the family and makes a remark about how cute the son of the family was. He boyfriend said "Leave them gooks alone and let them eat." No sooner did he say that than the father wipedhis mouth, jumped up out of his seat and without saying not ONE WORD grabbed the guy in a guillotine hold from behind and put all of his weight on old boy bouncing his face onto the ground in a crowded restaurant. He held the man there until he went to sleep. Then he paid the bill and left old boy for his woman to care for him. I never felt more proud of a head of a family protecting his pride.

                                                                Please don't do that again
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                                                                • MrWendell
                                                                  SBR Rookie
                                                                  • 03-20-09
                                                                  • 12

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Im going big on Toronto today, Halladay for the win !
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                                                                  • cocknocker
                                                                    Restricted User
                                                                    • 11-06-08
                                                                    • 8001

                                                                    #68
                                                                    I just heard that John Madden retired today. What a big loss to football fans all over the world
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                                                                    • Euphoria38
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 09-04-08
                                                                      • 1188

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Look I'm not here to convince you one way or another but win your money which you will be crying over after this game. Its a shame you can't think abstractly, but then again thats why there are more losers than winners.

                                                                      The point of the comparison for someone as senile as yourself was the essential component to the "team". It doesn't matter what sport you use, if I didn't know the difference between sports I wouldn't be here.

                                                                      All that you have proven is that you are senile and ignorant. You still have not used any other supporting fact on your picks except your home team fact, which means you are dodging my question and taking shots at my integrity sir.
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                                                                      • Euphoria38
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 09-04-08
                                                                        • 1188

                                                                        #70
                                                                        Yes I was being funny. I appologize for tainting your thread CK, I do enjoy your rationale and thought out picks. I do not appologize to people who want to cut my face off because I cracked a joke, if you want to change the world I suggest you run for office.
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