Thanks Dusty, I'll give it a shot.
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rkelly110BARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#2766Comment -
kingofmonashRestricted User
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#2767worth a shot guys , labby it to riches matesComment -
PokerDaveSBR Hustler
- 02-07-11
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#2768Please tell me what the better systems are so I can quit following this thread & make more money.
Thanks in advance.Comment -
DustyDiamondSBR Wise Guy
- 12-19-09
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#2769Comment -
big limpinSBR High Roller
- 01-26-11
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#2770
This originally started with me trying to prove to a friend that chase systems do not work... this one is stubborn though
Bet AGAINST a team for a 6 game chase after they have lost to a shutout.
Been doing this for 5 years now... minimum profits has been +136 units on the season.
I am still convinced it will lose but the system is up well of 800+ units for the past 5 seasons.
I start the system on opening day and go into "shut down" mode once September 1st hits.
Like I said, I still believe that chase systems do not work... but this one has turned into a bit of an "ugly step sister" to my friends and I with the belief that it will lose. We actually cheer for it to lose - lol
Keep in mind that we each only bet about .0010% of our roll for a "unit" win because we are convinced it will go belly up.... maybe this year.
Wager responsibly fellas!!!
Cheers!Comment -
DustyDiamondSBR Wise Guy
- 12-19-09
- 772
#2771Try this one.
This originally started with me trying to prove to a friend that chase systems do not work... this one is stubborn though
Bet AGAINST a team for a 6 game chase after they have lost to a shutout.
Been doing this for 5 years now... minimum profits has been +136 units on the season.
I am still convinced it will lose but the system is up well of 800+ units for the past 5 seasons.
I start the system on opening day and go into "shut down" mode once September 1st hits.
Like I said, I still believe that chase systems do not work... but this one has turned into a bit of an "ugly step sister" to my friends and I with the belief that it will lose. We actually cheer for it to lose - lol
Keep in mind that we each only bet about .0010% of our roll for a "unit" win because we are convinced it will go belly up.... maybe this year.
Wager responsibly fellas!!!
Cheers!Comment -
ebbearsfb1SBR Posting Legend
- 12-07-08
- 18815
#2772thats a very interesting system...
still gonna try the labby lines for this system intergity
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and then fading someone after they were shut out u have to chase.. unless u use the same labby line for multiple teams
so basically if the pirates lose the first game of the year 5-0, then you fade them for the next 6 game till they lose againComment -
big limpinSBR High Roller
- 01-26-11
- 208
#2773
I still think it will eventually lose but the system seems to have gotten more successful as each year has passed.
2010 was our best year yet.
I would still stick with the .0010% fellas... it sounds super anal but I think this system should still be used for FUN.
Save your 1-3 % bets for the serious capping.Comment -
ebbearsfb1SBR Posting Legend
- 12-07-08
- 18815
#2774We bet the money line. Sometimes we have found ourselves on a fat bet when chasing the 5th game with +180 and it comes through... CHA CHING! lol I still think it will eventually lose but the system seems to have gotten more successful as each year has passed. 2010 was our best year yet. I would still stick with the .0010% fellas... it sounds super anal but I think this system should still be used for FUN. Save your 1-3 % bets for the serious capping.Comment -
DustyDiamondSBR Wise Guy
- 12-19-09
- 772
#2775We bet the money line. Sometimes we have found ourselves on a fat bet when chasing the 5th game with +180 and it comes through... CHA CHING! lol
I still think it will eventually lose but the system seems to have gotten more successful as each year has passed.
2010 was our best year yet.
I would still stick with the .0010% fellas... it sounds super anal but I think this system should still be used for FUN.
Save your 1-3 % bets for the serious capping.Comment -
rkelly110BARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#2776Back tracking the original premise of this thread from May to Sept. would be hard on the bankroll
using a lab line.
May was the worst month. 12-22 35% Longest losing streak was 7 in a row.
Longest winning streak was 4 in a row.
June was better. 17-13 57% Longest losing streak was 3 in a row. Winning streak
was 5 in a row.
July was OK. 16-15 52% Longest losing streak was 4 in a row. Winning streak
was 3.
Aug. 18-17 51% Losing streak 3. Winning streak 4.
Sept. 17-17 50% Losing streak 6. Winning streak 6.
Chasing the lowest ML favorite, betting the -RL would be an absolute no no.
Just my 2 cents. Maybe my numbers are off.
I'm tired of losing in baseball. I just discovered lab lines and have been using
them in hockey since the 1st of the year.
I'm going to take one winning team from last year and labby them to, I hope, riches.
I'm thinking the Phillies.
Input would be appreciated.Comment -
DustyDiamondSBR Wise Guy
- 12-19-09
- 772
#2777interesting, so your saying that labby would of been junk last season? The numbers here in this thread were based on a -1.5 RL. In a different thread the -1 RL was used and brought better resultsComment -
rkelly110BARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#2778Yeah, Dusty. I didn't get a chance to do April yet. Unless your bank roll can sustain a month
like May, you would've been OK, but I don't think you would've recovered your losses from
that month.
Who knows, this year the system could kick butt.
I did 5 different scenarios when back tracking. The above, ML dog SU, ML dog betting on +RL,
+RL fav and +RL fav SU.
ML dog SU May-Sept 42-88 32% (best month May 16-18 47%)
ML dog +RL 82-83 50% (best month May 62%)
+RL fav 666-384 63%
+RL fav SU 467-583 44%
Today I started my Philly line and won.Comment -
DustyDiamondSBR Wise Guy
- 12-19-09
- 772
#2779Nice job going back and checking this data out. This is a chase system though so you could lose the first 5 and hit the 6th game your record would be 1-0. Are you chasing the Phillies all season?Comment -
lex_sf415Restricted User
- 03-15-10
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#2780sounds goodComment -
rkelly110BARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#2781I think I will give the Phillies a shot. I'm 3-0 so far. Cleared one line and 1/2 of another. +3units.
I did some research on them and might have to change or add another team. Philly lost money
as fav's, but won money as dogs. World series champs, San Fran, won money as both.
They are off to a great start in preseason.
I think having one or two teams and using lab lines for the season would be better than
chasing teams for 3 to 6 games. IMO.Comment -
shinnmanSBR Sharp
- 02-25-11
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#2782rkelly if i may ask, where are you getting your info , i eas doing some research using vegasinsider but they no longer have last years results upComment -
rkelly110BARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#2784I looked here on SBR. I went to the main page and clicked on match ups of the games.
Click on any team and you will get stats for the year for each team. It doesn't break
down too much.Comment -
ebbearsfb1SBR Posting Legend
- 12-07-08
- 18815
#2785Try this one. This originally started with me trying to prove to a friend that chase systems do not work... this one is stubborn thoughBet AGAINST a team for a 6 game chase after they have lost to a shutout. Been doing this for 5 years now... minimum profits has been +136 units on the season. I am still convinced it will lose but the system is up well of 800+ units for the past 5 seasons. I start the system on opening day and go into "shut down" mode once September 1st hits. Like I said, I still believe that chase systems do not work... but this one has turned into a bit of an "ugly step sister" to my friends and I with the belief that it will lose. We actually cheer for it to lose - lol Keep in mind that we each only bet about .0010% of our roll for a "unit" win because we are convinced it will go belly up.... maybe this year. Wager responsibly fellas!!! Cheers!
you should really start a fresh thread this idea, if not i'd like to have that in my thread of picks as an option
how often does it go to 6 games?Comment -
DustyDiamondSBR Wise Guy
- 12-19-09
- 772
#2786chasing during preseason?Glad to see your doing well!!!
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DustyDiamondSBR Wise Guy
- 12-19-09
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#2787maybe espn.com or mlb.com ?Comment -
BlarghSBR High Roller
- 04-20-08
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#2788Did this chase for the past year 1/2. In an earlier post someone was looking for past results. Below are my results. In 2010 I had to end it since another 6 game chase I was doing had a monumental breakdown, losing 10 straight, which caused my bankroll to breakdown. In 2009 there was a 7 game chase in Sept.
Also remember, plays will differ based on where you got your opening lines. I used Pinnacle lines.
Needless to say, take with a grain of salt. These are not official plays. Just my plays based off the system which I am sharing for the curious.
I am going to do it again this year but I'll set a $ amount at which I withdraw any profit to date before continuing to chase.Comment -
rkelly110BARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#2789GL Blargh, based on my own research, I know I won't do it for either lab or chase.
I saw that one bet of over $700. Whew! I personally think those kind of bets are
bookie traps.
What you could do is set a max limit for your money, say $100 and just bet
that until you get back to even. Then restart your chase. IMOComment -
PALLETIZESBR Rookie
- 03-07-10
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#2790System Integrity
GL Blargh, based on my own research, I know I won't do it for either lab or chase.
I saw that one bet of over $700. Whew! I personally think those kind of bets are
bookie traps.
What you could do is set a max limit for your money, say $100 and just bet
that until you get back to even. Then restart your chase. IMOComment -
rkelly110BARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#2791You could do that Palletize, it will still be a bank roll eater though. Those six or more
losses in a row don't come up too often, but when they do, your screwed.
Maybe set a loss limit of 4 games for a labby and/or 3 games for a chase. Stop, take a break
and wait for a win to continue.
Paper trade it if you have back info. Go to Blarghs spread sheet above and try it out.Comment -
slapshotSBR MVP
- 10-27-07
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#2792i have researched the system during the off-season…….my conclusion is based on pinnacle opening lines is to bet the biggest favorite of the day -1 run……..minimum three games on the card for the day……longest losing streak last five seasons is 5 games.
keep in mind…no chase system works if the unit size is too big compared to your bankroll.
to make this system work, your unit size must be small…………….i will play to win 1% of the bankroll.
in addition to this I will play it with the labby strategy…..the system generates roughly 100 units for the season.
is worthwhile playing to win that small amount??……my answer is yes if the bankroll is big enough…..if your bankroll is 100 bucks, i would opt for other strategies.Comment -
DustyDiamondSBR Wise Guy
- 12-19-09
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#2793slapshot, what is your labby strategy? 1 line?Comment -
slapshotSBR MVP
- 10-27-07
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#2794i've been experimenting with different variations of the labby, concluded one line is the way to go......crossing out two numbers on the list for every win, and adding one number for every loss.
i'll stick to this until something is proven more efficient.Comment -
do5000SBR Wise Guy
- 06-06-08
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#2795We bet the money line. Sometimes we have found ourselves on a fat bet when chasing the 5th game with +180 and it comes through... CHA CHING! lol
I still think it will eventually lose but the system seems to have gotten more successful as each year has passed.
2010 was our best year yet.
I would still stick with the .0010% fellas... it sounds super anal but I think this system should still be used for FUN.
Save your 1-3 % bets for the serious capping.
let a team get shut out, then if then win the next 2, chase them to lose.Comment -
DustyDiamondSBR Wise Guy
- 12-19-09
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#2796Comment -
big limpinSBR High Roller
- 01-26-11
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#2797
Hasn't been an issue in the past. I think the earliest I ever hit a system loss was end of April in 2008.
Looking forward to next week.Comment -
big limpinSBR High Roller
- 01-26-11
- 208
#2798
Were you back testing the "Bet For" or "Bet Against"?? Last season I brought home 167 units running the "Bet Against" system.
One filter that I do add is:
If a team has suffered a shut and the next day plays against another team you are already working on, allow your first team to finished the 6 game chase / or win before you begin chasing the other team.
I think that is important as you never want to guarantee a loss for any of the teams you are chasing. If you bet both sides you are obviously guaranteeing a B bet for one team.
Hope this helps! Looking forward to next week!Comment -
dlunc3SBR Hall of Famer
- 10-31-09
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#2799Hi Dusty,
Were you back testing the "Bet For" or "Bet Against"?? Last season I brought home 167 units running the "Bet Against" system.
One filter that I do add is:
If a team has suffered a shut and the next day plays against another team you are already working on, allow your first team to finished the 6 game chase / or win before you begin chasing the other team.
I think that is important as you never want to guarantee a loss for any of the teams you are chasing. If you bet both sides you are obviously guaranteeing a B bet for one team.
Hope this helps! Looking forward to next week!Comment -
dlunc3SBR Hall of Famer
- 10-31-09
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#2800i have researched the system during the off-season…….my conclusion is based on pinnacle opening lines is to bet the biggest favorite of the day -1 run……..minimum three games on the card for the day……longest losing streak last five seasons is 5 games.
keep in mind…no chase system works if the unit size is too big compared to your bankroll.
to make this system work, your unit size must be small…………….i will play to win 1% of the bankroll.
in addition to this I will play it with the labby strategy…..the system generates roughly 100 units for the season.
is worthwhile playing to win that small amount??……my answer is yes if the bankroll is big enough…..if your bankroll is 100 bucks, i would opt for other strategies.
A few quick things...
I tracked this system for a while last year, and noticed a few key issues that I think should be looked at... A quick series that comes to mind is the Tex/Balt series in July.. Tex was the biggest favorite for 4 straight days.. if you were to bet the -1rl on the biggest favorite each day, you would have lost over 80 units just on this series. If you were to go on and make the 5th bet, you would have had to risk over 200 units..
What i take from this is...
#1: Apply some type of filter to not bet the same team more then once... this way one slumping team cannot completely crush your bankroll.
#2: Use some type of labby system (as slapshot spoke of), or bet to win .25% or less of your bank roll to ensure that you have plenty of money to make all 5 bets..
Slapshot--- a few questions you may know the answer to..
Do you know how the history of this system may look with this filter (not playing the same team more then once in a single series) applied?
How have you been determining what team to bet when both teams have the same line? Say both teams are -250 for the day?
Thanks and best of luck..Comment
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