[Chaz22]

Yeah, I found mistake in my excel, but strangely enough your score is also faulty.

brodie 465
honeybadger 200

all because of Isner as he was seeded and lost first match so minus 30 points.
You took only -15, and my excel screwed me and didn't take anything.

[EaglesPhan36]

Funny I scored Isner right for myself. Adjusting & posting new standings in a bit.

[yisman]

Kohlschreiber ohsoclose to upsetting Ferrer

3 tiebreaks

[EaglesPhan36]

ATP TORONTO SCORES

EaglesPhan36 - 410
Captain: Djokovic
Players: Djokovic, Federer, Raonic, Isner, Kyrgios, Anderson, Paire, Russell
20, 120, 20, -30, 50, 150, 30, 50

Optional - 120
Captain: Youzhny
Players: Djokovic, Dimitrov, Raonic, Federer, Schnur, Hewitt, Youzhny, Tomic
0, 40, 20, 120, -15, -15, -15, -15

STAY STRONG - 415
Captain: Djokovic
Players: Djokovic, Dimitrov, Raonic, Federer, Kyrgios, Janowicz, Anderson, Chardy
20, 40, 20, 120, 50, -15, 150, 30

yisman - 405
Captain: Djokovic
Players: Djokovic, Federer, Murray, Raonic, Anderson, Janowicz, Chardy, Seppi
20, 120, 30, 20, 150, -15, 30, 50

SirtySree - 415
Captain: Djokovic
Players: Djokovic, Dimitrov, Raonic, Federer, Anderson, Seppi, Simon, Tomic
20, 40, 20, 120, 150, 50, 30, -15

HoneyBadger44 - 200
Captain: Djokovic
Players: Djokovic, Dimitrov, Isner, Raonic, Anderson, Kohlschreiber, Young, Tomic
20, 40, -30, 20, 150, -15, 30, -15

mamamonkey - 395
Captain: Raonic
Players: Raonic, Djokovic, Wawrinka, Ferrer, Karlovic, Benneteau, F.Lopez, Giraldo
60, 0, 0, 20, 30, 110, 190, -15

Chaz22 - 435
Captain: Gulbis
Players: Djokovic, Federer, Dimitrov, Gulbis, Giraldo, Anderson, Seppi, Smyczek
0, 120, 40, 40, -15, 150, 50, 50

brodie - 465
Captain: Djokovic
Players: Djokovic, Isner, Federer, Wawrinka, F.Lopez, Janowicz, Young, Anderson
20, -30, 120, 0, 190, -15, 30, 150

STANDINGS THRU TORONTO
Chaz22: 1630
brodie: 1475
yisman: 1465
SirtySree: 1445
Honeybadger44: 1380
STAY STRONG: 1010
mamamonkey 965
EaglesPhan36: 885
Optional: 850



Prize Pool: 450 points
1st: 225 pts
2nd: 150 pts
3rd: 75 pts

[EaglesPhan36]

Winston-Salem starts SUNDAY kids. At least this one makes sense since it is leading up to the kickoff of the US Open.

Deadline is SUNDAY at 2:00pm ET to get your entries in.

This week, it's just six players. Three seeds/three non-seeds.

http://www.atpworldtour.com/Share/Ev...6242&Year=2014

[EaglesPhan36]

Bump.

[EaglesPhan36]

Winston-Salem
Captain: Janowicz
Players: Isner, Mayer, Lu, Janowicz, Klizan, Melzer

[yisman]

can we just submit anyone we're using today and fill in the rest later?

[EaglesPhan36]

Yeah that would be fine if you don't have time.

[EaglesPhan36]

If you have not turned in your lineup for Winston-Salem, you can still do so. There will be a firm deadline on Monday for the 1st match of the day to have the lineups in, but you can still enter this week if you missed today's deadline.

Of course make sure you do not include any players who are playing today.

[Optional]

Ah bugger.

Sorry, missed this.

Will send entry now.

[Chaz22]

Scoring update (Cincy and overall)

Cincy final score


Yisman 550
Optional 450
mamamonkey 435
brodie 400
honeybadger 395
chaz22 285
sirtysree 170
EP36 140
Stay Strong 100


Overall scroing


yisman 2055
Chaz22 1955
brodie 1915
honeybadger 1775
Sirtysree 1655
mamamonkey 1400
Optional 1340
Stay Strong 1150
EP36 1065


P.S. EP, in your overall scores you haven't included 40 point bonus for Federer's appearance in Toronto finals (for those who had him in final)

[EaglesPhan36]

Pretty sure I did. He had four wins + one loss. Two straight set wins. So that's 60 for the straights + 40 for the two non-straights. 40 bonus for making the Final. That is 140 minus 20 for the loss = 120 pts.

For once, I believe I am correct

[SirtySree]

wow just found out melzer had goffin from qualifiers. the one player i didnt want him to have to vs out of all the qualifiers that made it thru. =.="

[EaglesPhan36]

I'll have a scoring update tomorrow during the day and will be posting lineups in the morning or sooner for Winston-Salem.

[brodie]

wow just found out melzer had goffin from qualifiers. the one player i didnt want him to have to vs out of all the qualifiers that made it thru. =.="

yep

[EaglesPhan36]

Winston-Salem Entries

EaglesPhan36
Captain: Janowicz
Players: Isner, Mayer, Lu, Janowicz, Klizan, Melzer

SirtySree
Captain: Melzer
Players: Robredo, Isner, Young, Querrey, Brown, Melzer

STAY STRONG
Captain: Anderson
Players: Anderson, Isner, Robredo, Klahn, Janowicz, Querrey

Brodie
Captain: Isner
Players: Isner, Rosol, Roger Vasselin, Brown, Melzer, Querrey

Mamamonke y
Captain: Goffin
Players: Isner, Johnson, Robredo, Goffin, Gonzalez, Melzer

Optional
Captain: Robredo
Players: Isner, Robredo, Mayer, Dancevic, Klizan, Querrey

Yisman
Captain: Isner
Players: Isner, Anderson, Robredo, Janowicz, Querrey, Becker

HoneyBadger44
Captain: Isner
Players: Isner, Lu, Young, Janowicz, Sijsling, Melzer

Chaz22
Captain: Isner
Players: Isner, Anderson, Robredo, Querrey, Ginepri, Goffin

[EaglesPhan36]

Also unless the majority don't want it, US Open will be included as the Final tourney for this.

[joke6723]

if a dude retires 2nd set, is that considered a straight set win for this contest?

[EaglesPhan36]

Any retirement or walk over is treated as just a win, 20 pts.

[yisman]

nice pick of Goffin by Chaz and Monkey

two straight sets wins!

I'm fine with including the US Open. Doesn't matter to me.

[EaglesPhan36]

Will have score updates later tonight now that I don't have to do all the work off my phone.

[EaglesPhan36]

Scoring update (Cincy and overall)

Cincy final score


Yisman 550
Optional 450
mamamonkey 435
brodie 400
honeybadger 395
chaz22 285
sirtysree 170
EP36 140
Stay Strong 100


Overall scroing


yisman 2055
Chaz22 1955
brodie 1915
honeybadger 1775
Sirtysree 1655
mamamonkey 1400
Optional 1340
Stay Strong 1150
EP36 1065


P.S. EP, in your overall scores you haven't included 40 point bonus for Federer's appearance in Toronto finals (for those who had him in final)

I'm officially giving you a vote of no confidence. Just starting to score, but you missed mine by almost 200 pts.

[EaglesPhan36]

Here's what I got. Feel free to double check, but I did already and believe these accurate.

Eaglesphan36 - 310
Captain: Djokovic
Players: Djokovic, Murray, Berdych, Cilic, Monfils, Benneteau, Dodig, Karlovic
20,30,-30,40,90,190,-15,-15

Chaz22 - 280
Captain: Monfils
Players: Djokovic, Murray, Wawrinka, Gulbis, Monfils, Querrey, Melzer, Gabashvili
0,30,30,10,190,50,-15,-15

brodie - 400
Captain: Djokovic
Players: Djokovic,, Federer, Murray, Raonic, Monfils, Sock, Anderson, Hewitt
20,220,30,60,90,-15,10,-15

STAY STRONG - 100
Captain: Djokovic
Players: Djokovic, Tsonga, Dimitrov, Murray, Monfils, Querrey, Thiem, Dodig
20, -30, -30, 30, 90, 50, -15, -15

mamamonkey - 480
Captain: Cilic
Players: Cilic, Berdych, Djokovic, Murray, Benneteau , Kohlschreiber, S.Johnson, Becker
100,-30,0,30,190,30,110,50

Yisman - 550
Captain: Djokovic
Players: Djokovic, Federer, Murray, Raonic, Monfils, Kohlschreiber, Matosevic, Querrey
20, 220, 30, 60, 90, 30, 50, 50

SirtySree - 170
Captain: Murray
Players: Murray, Tsonga, Djokovic, Berdych, Karlovic, Janowicz, Monfils, Dodig
80, -30, 0, -30, -15, 90, 90, -15

HoneyBadger44 - 395
Captain: Djokovic
Players: Djokovic, Federer, Dimitrov, Berdych, Monfils, Sock, Verdasco ,S.Johnson
20, 220, -30, -30, 90,-15,30,110

Optional - 450
Captain: Djokovic
Players: Federer, Cilic, Djokovic, Raonic, Matosevic, Paire, Roger-Vasselin, Monfils
220,40,20,60,50,-15,-15,90

[Chaz22]

oh my, truth it is....huge mistake by taking away Benneteau from your squad early.

Your scoring is correct. Mine was not. Will check overall scoring later today.

And I don't know about U.S. Open adding to this...Maybe we can make it a seperate tourn with new bye-ins.

But if majority says so we can add it.

[Chaz22]

found one mistake in yours scoring...phew..

Optional had Djokovic as captain so +20 points for him.

[EaglesPhan36]

Sweet. Good catch. Will add up the totals for the season. Since I did not hear anyone say no to including the US Open. It will be the final stop for this event. Will probably tinker with scoring seeing as the field will be twice what we saw in any event. Probably just flat doubling all pts. So 40 for a W, 60 for straights, etc. Let me know if anyone has objections to that.

[Chaz22]

maybe better get with more players....let's say 5 seeds and 5 un-seeds....

or even a better idea...

8 players and divide them into 4 sections

high-seeds (top4) >> for a W/SW 20/30p
seeds(5-32) >> for a W/SW 30/60p
unseeded >> 40/90
qualifiers >> 50/120

and let's say you have to pick at least one Q (but can pick more)

[yisman]

why would you double how much a win is worth? I think it should be the same for each win/straight sets win as what we've been doing.

[EaglesPhan36]

Was just thinking bigger tournament, best of fives should earn more IMO for winning 3-0 or take my an extra set to win vs the best of 3 format.

I really don't want to get too complicated, but I thought that made sense and a bigger bonus for getting a guy in the final. Maybe a slightly larger roster of 10 or 12.

[yisman]

true, winning 3-0 is harder than winning 2-0, so straight sets could be worth more

but I think just for winning a round, that should be the same value.

[EaglesPhan36]

Well I think either both or neither. Winning a Slam match is infinitely harder because of having to get the extra set IMO, so 40 for a win seems fair and 60 for straights. But it's whatever everyone wants, not just me.

[brodie]

Well I think either both or neither. Winning a Slam match is infinitely harder because of having to get the extra set IMO, so 40 for a win seems fair and 60 for straights. But it's whatever everyone wants, not just me.

I like the straight sets bonus but the regular win should stay the same.

[joke6723]

spoke to my buddy mamamonkey and he agreed with brodie on the bonus and normal win

[yisman]

Well I think either both or neither. Winning a Slam match is infinitely harder because of having to get the extra set IMO, so 40 for a win seems fair and 60 for straights. But it's whatever everyone wants, not just me.

someone has to win. it can't be infinitely harder

3-0 is harder than 2-0, but if a guy is 65% to beat someone best of 3, he's going to be about the same in a best of 5 (assuming surface and conditions are the same, of course).

Making it best of 5 just makes it more difficult to win in straights, since it's a 3 set parlay rather than a 2 set parlay.


Nadal at Roland Garros has been more dominant than Nadal on clay in general, for example, even though he has to win best of 5s rather than best of 3s.