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    big joe 1212
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    LOL @ Betonline !!!!!!!!!!!

    I experienced a new all time low at BetOnline tonight!

    So I'm looking at the props and the over 4 sacks -105 catches my eye! I go to play it, the line changes to over 4.5 -125! I hit submit by mistake. So I hit refresh lines. The line comes back up 4 over-105. I'm like WTF??? So I log out, back in and line is still 4 over -105.

    I call CS and they don't understand what I'm trying to tell them. They send me to wagering...they don't have a clue either!

    So I call CS again, and after a few minutes of trying to explain the problem, they investigate! They say that the lines do not refresh and the new line will appear when I go to submit my wager!

    I'm like WTF????? Your website doesn't refresh updated lines??? UNREAL !!!!!!

    They said they will be working on it!

    These things should not be happening at any legit offshore book!!!!!

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    Oh, and they wouldn't cancel my measly $20 wager!

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    I also just tried to make the same play and had the same issue.

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    OMFG

    I just tried to play the UNDER 4 and guess what????

    IT WAS ACCEPTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    FUKKIN THIEVES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    ALEX, check my account!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    You guys are fukkin robbing people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    bait and switch fellas.

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    Can't wait to get my money out of this joint!!!!!!!!!!

    UNFUKKIN REAL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    This happens a lot with their software when lines change.

    No wrong doing by them here since the line changes always reflect the market moves just that their software sucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharpcat View Post
    This happens a lot with their software when lines change.

    No wrong doing by them here since the line changes always reflect the market moves just that their software sucks.

    So when I play the UNDER it's OK to let it go through??????

    read all the posts!

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    i went on livechat and told them about this over an hour ago. seriously- how hard can this be to fix? to have a normal working website like everyone else?

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    problem still exists for those who want to see for themselves

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    I had the same problem as above. If they accepted the Under 4 sacks bet but move the line when you try to bet the over, that is taking a shot.

    It has been 5 or 6 months since BetOnline changed their website and they continue to have problem after problem. Do they give up at a certain point and go back to the software they had before?

    They recently switched to cloning CRIS/Bookmaker lines which makes them much less useful of a sportsbook.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 9XL View Post
    I had the same problem as above. If they accepted the Under 4 sacks bet but move the line when you try to bet the over, that is taking a shot.

    It has been 5 or 6 months since BetOnline changed their website and they continue to have problem after problem. Do they give up at a certain point and go back to the software they had before?

    They recently switched to cloning CRIS/Bookmaker lines which makes them much less useful of a sportsbook.
    exactly !!!

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    glad i do not play at betonline - how much do you think can be made with this bait and switch - this has got to be the worst line change or no line change (depending on which side of the bet you want) that i have ever heard of. everyone should take thier money out as soon as possible. and then not cancelling the bet and acting like they do not know what he is talking about is unbelievible

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    This happened to me with Romo on the passing prop. Juice changed for the worst and I lost five yards...Truth be told tho, this is one of the first times this has happened to me @ BO...Usually it changes to my ad and they let me know that it has been changed in my favor, which I find comforting.

    I swear B Phoenix always lets your bet got through if line changed to your ad and vice versa. Shady.

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    I don't think they are so much crooks as the possessor's of demon infested software.

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    Quote Originally Posted by big joe 1212 View Post
    Oh, and they wouldn't cancel my measly $20 wager!
    Quote Originally Posted by Peep View Post
    I don't think they are so much crooks as the possessor's of demon infested software.
    then why not cancel the bet

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    Quote Originally Posted by relaaxx View Post
    then why not cancel the bet
    Why should they be responsible for OP's mistake?

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    Your poor $20

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    Quote Originally Posted by ForgetWallStreet View Post
    Why should they be responsible for OP's mistake?
    because you can still bet the under at four - the over changes to 4.5 when you bet over 4 - and they know it -it's more of how many they trick into the over 4.5 not how many make the mistake of betting over 4.5

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    Quote Originally Posted by relaaxx View Post
    because you can still bet the under at four - the over changes to 4.5 when you bet over 4 - and they know it -it's more of how many they trick into the over 4.5 not how many make the mistake of betting over 4.5
    i dont think they are crooks. i just think they have really really really bad software with lots of issues. they did cancel a wager for me i placed saturday. placed the wager accidently when they got rid of their 2 clicks for confirmation of wager. took about 10 minutes to be cancelled.

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    This is the same crap that BetUS pulls, where they take one sided action. It could be possible it's due to a horrible software issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by big joe 1212 View Post
    I experienced a new all time low at BetOnline tonight!

    So I'm looking at the props and the over 4 sacks -105 catches my eye! I go to play it, the line changes to over 4.5 -125! I hit submit by mistake. So I hit refresh lines. The line comes back up 4 over-105. I'm like WTF??? So I log out, back in and line is still 4 over -105.

    I call CS and they don't understand what I'm trying to tell them. They send me to wagering...they don't have a clue either!

    So I call CS again, and after a few minutes of trying to explain the problem, they investigate! They say that the lines do not refresh and the new line will appear when I go to submit my wager!

    I'm like WTF????? Your website doesn't refresh updated lines??? UNREAL !!!!!!

    They said they will be working on it!

    These things should not be happening at any legit offshore book!!!!!
    I did read this very clearly

    1) you selected over 4 -105, but the line changed to 4.5 -125.

    2) you did not pay attention and confirmed the wager (easy to do because they changed their verification process to 1 step instead of the old 2 step process on saturday.)

    3) As has been the case for several months after a line change notice you go back to the lines and it has not changed. I have verified that this is a software glitch by observing line movements at all other book and the updated line always reflects the current market price what you are seeing on the lines page is a software glitch where the line is not updating but you are warned at the bet confirmation page of the updated line.


    4) If you bet the under 4 and the wager was accepted than take a screen shot of both wagers and the confirmation time and allow the book to handle your dispute before you start bashing them.

    By the way not a good idea to bet the under here, why would you allow the book to not only hit you for juice but also give them an opportunity to middle you?

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    Their software is broken. It's been like this for weeks.

    Certain markets don't display the proper line. That o4 -105 was the price this morning, it changed many times during the day, but their page never updates properly. sbrodds will show the right lines bet bol is stuck in the past.

    oh and when you tell them they act like they've never heard of such a problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by durito View Post
    Their software is broken. It's been like this for weeks.

    Certain markets don't display the proper line. That o4 -105 was the price this morning, it changed many times during the day, but their page never updates properly. sbrodds will show the right lines bet bol is stuck in the past.

    oh and when you tell them they act like they've never heard of such a problem.
    Clear you cookies is their favorite line

    Over 4 was -130 at 5dimes at 6:00 I am sure this is why the OP found the line intriguing. If so he should have been prepared for a line change.
    Last edited by sharpcat; 10-25-10 at 09:02 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharpcat View Post
    I did read this very clearly

    1) you selected over 4 -105, but the line changed to 4.5 -125.

    2) you did not pay attention and confirmed the wager (easy to do because they changed their verification process to 1 step instead of the old 2 step process on saturday.)

    3) As has been the case for several months after a line change notice you go back to the lines and it has not changed. I have verified that this is a software glitch by observing line movements at all other book and the updated line always reflects the current market price what you are seeing on the lines page is a software glitch where the line is not updating but you are warned at the bet confirmation page of the updated line.


    4) If you bet the under 4 and the wager was accepted than take a screen shot of both wagers and the confirmation time and allow the book to handle your dispute before you start bashing them.

    By the way not a good idea to bet the under here, why would you allow the book to not only hit you for juice but also give them an opportunity to middle you?
    First of all, I did not like the under.

    I had to submit the bet on the under to prove my theory!

    I'm gonna lose 2 bucks on the juice and yes, I could lose 23 if it lands on 4 exactly!

    I tried to get the bets canceled after I proved that the "software" is ripping people off, but they still refuse to cancel the plays, hence bashing them is justified!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharpcat View Post
    Clear you cookies is their favorite line

    Over 4 was -130 at 5dimes at 6:00 I am sure this is why the OP found the line intriguing. If so he should have been prepared for a line change.
    I didn't even look at other books!

    If I was trying to take advantage of the line, I would have played a lot more than $20!

    doesn't matter anymore as I will be withdrawing all my funds and sending them to a legit book!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharpcat View Post
    Clear you cookies is their favorite line

    Over 4 was -130 at 5dimes at 6:00 I am sure this is why the OP found the line intriguing. If so he should have been prepared for a line change.
    i try it on different computers with different browsers, ips, cookies, etc. There is no place in the world where their stupid website works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonah View Post
    This happened to me with Romo on the passing prop. Juice changed for the worst and I lost five yards...Truth be told tho, this is one of the first times this has happened to me @ BO...Usually it changes to my ad and they let me know that it has been changed in my favor, which I find comforting.

    I swear B Phoenix always lets your bet got through if line changed to your ad and vice versa. Shady.
    K. I thought the only silver lining with Romo's injury is that I won my prop bet, which had him going under 283 yards, which I wrote about above...Well it is nowhere to be seen in my plays.
    Last edited by Jonah; 10-25-10 at 11:36 PM.

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    Betonline have very bad software and this is what they need to work on.

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    Amazing, a broken software. Just the most important thing that a book needs to get right...they like it that way prolly, as the OP said: shot taking. Could it be more obvious with "reducing the confirmation to 1 step"`?
    A lion will never be a peaceful animal. BOL will never be a 100% honest book. Carry on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 9XL View Post
    They recently switched to cloning CRIS/Bookmaker lines



    Can anyone confirm if this true?

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    BOL doesn't scam anyone; they have terrible software. They traded user friendly software that worked great; for user unfriendly software that completely sucks at times. Alex has done what he could to keep people staying loyal; but it appears the people above him are just really stupid. It's hard to stay loyal to a company that puts up a yield sign and blocks bets with a minute or 2 before kickoff. I had that in Giants Phillies game 5 playoff game and got shut out. Thanx to Alex for trying like hell; no thanx to BOL's upper management for buying junk software and then sticking with it

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    BOL obviously hurt their bottom line during the adjustment period to the new software. Their pain was self-inflicted. I know that Alex felt like killing the tech guys back in September. But things have much improved since. In my opinion this software is not bad but 'ambitious'. Once the bugs are worked out, it may turn out to be sharper than anything out there. I'm not shilling for the book. I just think that those who try new things or try to raise the bar, in any field, deserve some credit. Every once in a while give someone a break. We already know they're not happy about the period it took to adjust to the new software. Why keep rubbing it in? Why not bring their attention to remaining bugs in a kinder way? If a books steals or lies, that's a different matter. But these are just tech problems, that are (slowly) being resolved. They have nothing to do with integrity. (Have you ever worked with tech guys? lol) In the meantime, the feedback posted here is very useful to avoid running into problems. SBR odds shows the correct lines. Problem solved.

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    I've never had a problem with this site- looks like its on a case by case basis.

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    What time did you try and bet? I got o4 -120 at 2:55pm EST yesterday, it was displaying o4 -105 at the time

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