[SharpyUSA]

I have been playing with youwager, wagerweb and jazz sports for over 8 years now. Sometimes a gambler just wants to "plant the seed" in other books, to create a good relationship, and have other options as far as better odds and sports.

I've been getting info from top books and have been shocked at some payout options.


This is NOT a page to bash books, but just to present what they have to compete with, with other top books.

Intertops - One of the BEST tennis books I've ever seen. They have several odds on ITF, CHALLENGER AND ATP/WTA. BUT, they don't allow withdrawals via ** or **? ALSO, they take 48 hours just to process the deposit, and another 4 days to send out checks. Comparing this to youwager for example. They process SAME DAY payouts, and checks go out to you next day...

This is a COMPETITIVE environment, and I can't figure out how some of these books stay alive. I know there's hundreds of thousands of people like myself who play and want a withdrawal within a couple of days, and actually want to get paid within a couple of days, so all this "1 week to get paid" talk is just absurd to me.


Cloudbet - They ONLY allow bitcoin deposits. Nothing else....which is ridiculous



Directbet - They don't even have an option to log in!!!??? WTF is that about? Does anyone even use this book? HOW do you log in??



HRWager - Really good people. I've been getting helped by someone named "Jerry Slater" and he has done everything for me to get rolling with this book. Even though the book is great, and they have great lines, I'm not happy with the $100 MAX limit offered to me. I made an attempt to raise it but they declined and told me to be patient, and "hopefully" management will raise my stakes. I think I'll only use this book in case of an emergency or something....


I'll keep adding more as I do more research, and anyone else that wants to chime in is more than welcome. We have a good list of ratings from SBRforum but we need more "inside" info, if possible.

[Optional]

Cloudbet and Directbet are bitcoin only books. If you want to try one of them I'd suggest trying NitrogenSports first. There is a list of all the major Bitcoin Books here.

[SharpyUSA]

Thanks Optional. Both of my banks will not allow me to use any bitcoin wallets. I was using "Circle" and "Cex.io" and both banks had deemed this as a "Risk" to use, and blocked the transactions. I believe I only sent $800 and $500 in total through both banks, and they put a stop to it after. I called them up and asked them and they said they have had security issues with these accounts, and its a business decision to halt all usage with them. Strange...

I'm in Cali, and know several people that are using the same bank accounts as me, and are able to use bitcoins. So I don't know the issue there. I've never issued a charge back or any other types of issues for my banks to come to a conclusion that this is a "risk" to use. Both banks actually told me to write their management a letter to state why I should be able to use them, but who has time for that? Lol.

[Winpro]

...
Cloudbet - They ONLY allow bitcoin deposits. Nothing else....which is ridiculous ...

That's not too ridiculous considering their astronomical limits on the widest ITF tennis lines.

[SharpyUSA]

I just got an update from HRWAGER and they said if I want to get an increase on wagers, then I would have to deposit more. For example, if I deposit $500, I get $500 increase. Which is BS, but i guess fair in others eyes. This clearly shows this book isn't for me.

[SharpyUSA]

I'm about to deposit into bethorizon right this second. Good lines, great site and limits are $300 max, which isn't too bad.

Their CS is super slow but they still tended to my needs. It took 8 mins to get a name to deposit with through live chat.

Any good or bad experiences from sbr members?

[futbolmundial]

I would suggest HeritageSports, Nitrogen and BetBaller...

Heritage allows for btc deposits and also pays out via w u, m g, check and btc. They have great limits and nice live betting.

Nitrogen has very good limits but they offer no live inplay. They pay you within 5 minutes tho and it's strictly a btc shop.

BetBaller is a great shop for btc players. Only btc in and out for americans but they offer live inplay on alot of markets. They also have live in play cashout available so you dont have to sweat the whole game.

Ive played at all 3 shops mentioned and they have payed me out very fast.. always within the hour of requesting a payout. Take a look around you might enjoy them.

[raiders72001]

I would suggest HeritageSports, Nitrogen and BetBaller...

Heritage allows for btc deposits and also pays out via w u, m g, check and btc. They have great limits and nice live betting.

Nitrogen has very good limits but they offer no live inplay. They pay you within 5 minutes tho and it's strictly a btc shop.

BetBaller is a great shop for btc players. Only btc in and out for americans but they offer live inplay on alot of markets. They also have live in play cashout available so you dont have to sweat the whole game.

Ive played at all 3 shops mentioned and they have payed me out very fast.. always within the hour of requesting a payout. Take a look around you might enjoy them.

I also like Nitrogen and Heritage along with 5Dimes and Betcoinsports.

[SharpyUSA]

Thanks raiders

[ga4life24]

What's the better book youwager or jazz who pay faster ?

[ParlayKing1986]

Wouldnt recommend 5dimes for you if you cant use bitcoin as they are pushing everything towards that.

[SharpyUSA]

Youwager is fastest for me.

[sshz]

The grass ISN'T always greener on the other side......I've been a customer of Betpop/Youwager (I have an account at both places) for over 10 years now- still get good bonuses, get paid quickly with no bullshit, payouts on teasers at Betpop are quite good, free withdrawals once a month, etc..........I still have a check from Intertops that BkofAma won't cash, and have been a client at a number of other places. You may want to think about leaving, there are so many questionable Sportsbooks going on right now under very limited government supervision-I want to be 100% sure I'm going to get paid- NOTHING really else matters.

[SharpyUSA]

sshz - yeah I hear you. Youwager is an outstanding book and I have never heard any excuses when it comes to payouts. These guys even give you Net Loss Bonus free plays every 6 months, which is basically free money. Every time they give it to me, they tell me I can cash out.....no excuses. Really solid book.

[SharpyUSA]

So my 2 day experience with bethorizon is pretty good so far. Their book is the spitting image of jazzsports, with a few minor differences (background color and their live bet allows you to bet $300, rather than the regular $100 max bets)

However, the biggest issue is the CS. Live help chat is pretty much non existent. You have to wait for several minutes for someone to even answer the chat. And it seems like there isn't more than 2-3 people who work there. I think this operation is run at home somewhere in costa rica. I have called 4 times already and you can hear children screaming and playing in the background. Like it's at a home day care or something. The reps are very nice though. I've been dealing with Mary and Diane.

I would definitely recommend this book.



This one is for the sbr moderators - is there a reason why they dropped from a B to a C? Payout issues?

[SharpyUSA]

I'm requesting a $500 cash transfer withdrawal tomorrow from bethorizon. I'll update once I receive it.

[Crusherrr]

Youwager is probably my favorite. I had played on Bovada and Bookmaker for years but now I pretty much only use Youwager and Heritage.

[SharpyUSA]

Bovada takes 5 days just to process a $500 cash transfer and after making you wait 5 days, another 4-5 days just to send it. Beautiful website though and excellent CS. But non of that really matters when they take literally 10 working days to pay you. Just absurd.

[SharpyUSA]

Okay so I have an update from my bethorizon payout.

I confirmed everything with the CS rep this morning and she said I will get my payout today.

I just went into the live chat to get my ref number and she said that accounting decided to send me a *********** instead because their ** processors can not send to my name. I asked why and she said there is no reason.

So I spoke to their accounting and he apologized and said ** has issues sometimes and he would do a fed ex 3 day for me. I would've preferred the cash but I guess it's pretty much the same thing, minus the 4-5 day wait.

I'll let you folks know exactly when it comes in.

[Canada]

Pinnicle all day! Bet365 is awesome too.

Intertops seems to be the only book I have played at that does not void a pushed teaser, slow pay outs.....hopefully this keeps them from an A+ rating as they do not deserve it for a lot of other garbage. Cant believe they have an A rating, should be blacklisted.

[jjgold]

a lot of good reviews here

good work