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    Jas
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    Soccer/Football betting

    Hello!

    I'm very green to the online betting scene, so I haven't done very well on my early 7 to 13 team parlays.

    I'm trying to find a way to neutralize the hurt that I'm feeling from picking teams to win, then watching one my favorites draw a match vs cannon fodder.. If I'm unsure about a favorite, but pretty sure that their opposition sucks, should I just play the over/under on the opposition team instead of picking the favorite to win??

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    Jas
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    Also, is there any chance that my rookie parlay wins this week??? No chance that I might survive Newcastle, Blackburn, and Tottenham:


    4/3/12 4:21pm $10.00 $20,504.67 Pending 10 Team Parlay
    Pending 4/6/12 11:30am England Soccer 401 Newcastle (ENG-P) +184* vs Swansea (ENG-P)
    Pending 4/7/12 7:45am England Soccer 1 Tottenham (ENG-P) +114* vs Sunderland (ENG-P)
    Pending 4/7/12 10:00am England Soccer 4 Fulham (ENG-P) +157* vs Bolton (ENG-P)
    Pending 4/7/12 10:00am England Soccer 13 Everton (ENG-P) +136* vs Norwich City (ENG-P)
    Pending 4/7/12 10:00am England Soccer 16 Blackburn (ENG-P) +270* vs West Bromwich (ENG-P)
    Pending 4/7/12 12:30pm England Soccer 20 Stoke (ENG-P) -166* vs Wolves (ENG-P)
    Win 4/4/12 2:45pm European Cup Soccer 202 Chelsea (UCL) -140* vs Benfica (UCL)
    Pending 4/7/12 9:00am Italy Soccer 63 Inter (ITA-A) -118* vs Cagliari (ITA-A)
    Pending 4/7/12 12:30pm Italy Soccer 75 Juventus (ITA-A) -181* vs Palermo (ITA-A)
    Win 4/3/12 6:45pm South America Soccer 502 Lanus (Copa-Liber) -110* vs Club Olimpia (Copa-Liber)

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    Well, I usually bet individual favs but best of luck to you. Would be a wonderful hit if it wins haha.

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    Thanks, Soul!

    Would love to get it past Newcastle on friday to have a chance. Swans are soooooo good at home though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jas View Post
    Hello!

    I'm very green to the online betting scene, so I haven't done very well on my early 7 to 13 team parlays.

    I'm trying to find a way to neutralize the hurt that I'm feeling from picking teams to win, then watching one my favorites draw a match vs cannon fodder.. If I'm unsure about a favorite, but pretty sure that their opposition sucks, should I just play the over/under on the opposition team instead of picking the favorite to win??
    And you will never ever have success playing 7-13 teams parlays. Not a chance to be winning player with this. Sorry.

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    Today feels like a good day for Parlay!!

    Go on Lanus!!!:

    Pending 4/7/12 4:10pm Argentina Soccer 357 Lanus (ARG)/Colon (ARG) Over 2 -110*
    Pending 4/6/12 6:10pm Argentina Soccer 452 Arsenal de Sarandi (ARG) 1st Half +140* vs Olimpo Bahia Blanca (ARG)
    Pending 4/6/12 2:45pm England Soccer 631 Shrewsbury (ENG-Two) -125* vs Macclesfield (ENG-Two)
    Pending 4/6/12 2:45pm England Soccer 634 Oxford (ENG-Two) +142* vs Northampton (ENG-Two)

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    good luck with the 10 teamer, personally wouldnt put more than 3-4 games from a single league in a parlay, its very hard to get half the results of a match week right.

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    You're right. I'm regretting putting so many PL teams in the mix. Going to be unlikely that one doesn't draw and that's IF I survive Newcastle/Swansea. Won't make this mistake again.

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    picking favs is hard, picking o/u in a game with a heavy fav is hard too, really no difference, its the one you expect the least bombing on you

    Just play straight bets and then throw in a few small parlays for fun.

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    Parlay in progress, Morelia vs Atlas/Mancity will be tough:

    Pending Team Parlay
    Pending 4/6/12 6:10pm Argentina Soccer 452 Arsenal de Sarandi (ARG) -138* vs Olimpo Bahia Blanca (ARG)
    Pending 4/7/12 4:10pm Argentina Soccer 355 Boca Juniors (ARG) -141* vs Argentinos Juniors (ARG)
    Pending 4/7/12 5:30am Australia Soccer 972 Perth Glory (AUS-A) -116* vs Wellington Phoenix (AUS-A)
    Pending 4/7/12 10:00am England Soccer 520 Birmingham (ENG-Cham) -184* vs Crystal Palace (ENG-Cham)
    Pending 4/8/12 11:00am England Soccer 104 Manchester City (ENG-P) pk +115* vs Arsenal (ENG-P)
    Pending 4/6/12 9:10pm Mexico Soccer 482 Monarcas Morelia (MEX) -138* vs Atlas (MEX)
    4/6/12 7:39pm Pending 4/7/12 10:00am England Soccer 641 Fleetwood Town (ENG-Conf) +114* vs York City (ENG-Conf)

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    Hello!

    Can someone please tell me how I lost this bet?

    4/7/12 5:30am Australia Soccer 972 Perth Glory (AUS-A) - -115* vs Wellington Phoenix (AUS-A)

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    Does your book include extra time? Game was tied in regulation, Perth won in extra time.

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    I use 5dimes, so I'm not sure. That's a pretty dreadful technicality if that's the case though, since there is no mentioned of this

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    Another draw kills off another Parlay... I have not picked a game that's lost in a long, long time. Every Parlay I pick has at least 1-3 draws in them though.

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    There has to be a way to protect against drawing?? Should I start hedging my Parlays- if that's the right term.

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    almost all soccer/football bets end at regulation (90min) unless otherwise stated.

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    Can anyone tell me if I have a legitimate argument with 5DIMES. Below is my Parlay:

    Amount Paid Status Wager
    4/6/12 11:54pm $0.00 Loss 10 Team Parlay
    Win 4/7/12 4:10pm Argentina Soccer 355 Boca Juniors (ARG) -140* vs Argentinos Juniors (ARG)
    Loss 4/7/12 5:30am Australia Soccer 972 Perth Glory (AUS-A) - -115* vs Wellington Phoenix (AUS-A)
    Win 4/7/12 5:30pm Brazil Soccer 1265 Sao Paulo (BRA-P) -226* vs Mogi Mirim (BRA-P)
    Win 4/7/12 5:15pm Chile Soccer 1391 OHiggins (CHI) -190* vs San Felipe (CHI)
    Win 4/7/12 10:00am England Soccer 4 Fulham (ENG-P) pk +103* vs Bolton (ENG-P)
    Win 4/7/12 10:00am England Soccer 520 Birmingham (ENG-Cham) -185* vs Crystal Palace (ENG-Cham)
    Win 4/7/12 10:00am England Soccer 641 Fleetwood Town (ENG-Conf) +112* vs York City (ENG-Conf)
    Pending 4/7/12 8:00pm Mexico Soccer 405 Santos Laguna (MEX) -279* vs Estudiantes Tecos (MEX)
    Win 4/7/12 7:30am Poland Soccer 2052 Legia Warsaw (POL-E) - -101* vs Ruch Chorzow (POL-E)
    Win 4/7/12 10:00am Scotland Soccer 2303 Hearts (SCO-P) - -128* vs Dunfermline (SCO-P)


    Assuming Santos wins, my only Loss is a game that Perth Glory actually won. This could be at least considered as a "close call" Parlay, surely? Is 5Dimes really not obligated to give me anything for a match that only required me to pick the winner of the game?

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    swordsandtequila
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    Sorry to tell you this, but you don't have a case. From 5Dimes site, Rules for Sports Wagering, Soccer:

    Full game soccer wagers are official on the result at full time (90 minutes of play + referee stoppage time) unless otherwise specified. Overtime and shoot-outs do not count unless the wagering option "OUTRIGHT" or "ADVANCES" is listed.


    Link: http://www.5dimes.eu/sb_rules.html#soccer

    This is normal for most books (to my knowledge). The winning goal was scored in the 113th minute (extra time). You chose Perth to win in regulation (includes any stoppage time for injuries, etc.). It's unfortunate, but it happens. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.



    (I'm assuming you understand the difference between stoppage and extra time, no intent at condescension)

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    Thanks. hahah, cruel justice:Santos draws

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    Been awhile since my last Parlay, so I have to pick one for today. Just looked at the remaining fixtures on 5dimes, and they're DREADFUL outside of Serie A-- low scoring league that can't be trusted imo.

    PSG is killing it though!!

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    Pending
    8 Team Parlay
    Pending 4/10/12 2:45pm England Soccer 704 Reading (ENG-Cham) +133* vs Brighton (ENG-Cham)
    Pending 4/10/12 2:30pm England Soccer 752 Fleetwood Town (ENG-Conf) -126* vs Wrexham (ENG-Conf)
    Pending 4/10/12 2:45pm France Soccer 951 Lyon (FRA-Cup) -148* vs Gazelec Ajaccio (FRA-Cup)
    Pending 4/10/12 2:00pm Germany Soccer 460 VfB Stuttgart (GER-1) pk -110* vs FC Augsburg (GER-1)
    Pending 4/10/12 11:30am Germany Soccer 851 Greuther Furth (GER-2) -106* vs Eintracht Braunschweig (GER-2)
    Pending 4/10/12 1:00pm Germany Soccer 908 VfR Aalen (GER-3) -136* vs Carl Zeiss Jena (GER-3)
    Pending 4/11/12 2:00pm Germany Soccer 265 Bayer Leverkusen (GER-1) -225* vs Kaiserslautern (GER-1)
    Pending 4/10/12 2:45pm Scotland Soccer 1657 Livingston (SCO-1) +180* vs Raith (SCO-1)


    Stuttgart & Lyon both make me nervous,would not be surprised to see a draw in both matchs. Feel free to chime in anytime!

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    MADNESS::

    Pending 17 Team Parlay
    Pending 4/10/12 6:15pm Argentina Soccer 1001 Instituto (ARG-B)/Gimnasia LP (ARG-B) Over 2 -109*
    Pending 4/10/12 3:00pm England Soccer 301 Liverpool (ENG-P)/Blackburn (ENG-P) Under 2 -107*
    Pending 4/10/12 2:45pm England Soccer 731 Sheffield United (ENG-One) -159* vs Rochdale (ENG-One)
    Pending 4/10/12 2:00pm Germany Soccer 451 Borussia Monchengladbach (GER-1)/Werder Bremen (GER-1) Under 2 -109*
    Pending 4/10/12 2:00pm Germany Soccer 457 Koln (GER-1)/Mainz 05 (GER-1) Under 2 +128*
    Pending 4/10/12 2:00pm Germany Soccer 460 VfB Stuttgart (GER-1)/FC Augsburg (GER-1) Under 2 +103*
    Pending 4/11/12 2:00pm Germany Soccer 265 Bayer Leverkusen (GER-1) -236* vs Kaiserslautern (GER-1)
    Pending 4/11/12 2:00pm Germany Soccer 270 Wolfsburg (GER-1)/Hannover (GER-1) Under 3 -135*
    Pending 4/11/12 2:00pm Germany Soccer 273 Hamburg (GER-1)/Hoffenheim (GER-1) Under 2 -103*
    Pending 4/10/12 1:45pm Israel Soccer 1254 Hapoel Nazrat-Ilit (ISR-Cup)/Maccabi Haifa (ISR-Cup) Under 3 -104*
    Pending 4/11/12 2:45pm Italy Soccer 173 Siena (ITA-A)/Inter (ITA-A) Under 3 -119*
    Pending 4/10/12 2:45pm Nor Ireland Soccer 1357 Glentoran (N.IRE-P)/Coleraine (N.IRE-P) Under 2 +102*
    Pending 4/10/12 2:45pm Rep Ireland Soccer 1552 Drogheda United (IRE-Cup) -107* vs Bohemians (IRE-Cup)
    Pending 4/10/12 2:45pm Scotland Soccer 1657 Livingston (SCO-1)/Raith (SCO-1) Under 2 +124*
    Pending 4/11/12 2:00pm Spain Soccer 222 Valencia (ESP-P) -199* vs Rayo Vallecano (ESP-P)
    Pending 4/11/12 4:00pm Spain Soccer 230 Real Madrid (ESP-P) -159* vs Atletico Madrid (ESP-P)
    Pending 4/10/12 2:30pm Wales Soccer 1951 Aberystwyth (Wales)/Afan Lido (Wales) Under 3 -151*

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    4/10/12 11:30am Germany Soccer 851 Greuther Furth (GER-2) -106* vs Eintracht Braunschweig (GER-2)

    0-0 Draw. Tough luck for Greuther on the road vs the 2nd-place team in the league. Hoped that they would pull out a sneaky win, another Parlay dusted.

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    All 4 German league teams score within the first 20mins. Not looking goof for my "unders"

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    Dude... Stuttgart and Mainz are the o2.5 kings since the winter break...

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    hahah, Nova! Now that lesson has been learned.

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    How CAN this lose!? The safest Parlay I've ever played:


    Pending 8 Team Parlay
    Pending 4/10/12 6:15pm Argentina Soccer 1001 Instituto (ARG-B) +157* vs Gimnasia LP (ARG-B)
    Pending 4/11/12 2:00pm Germany Soccer 265 Bayer Leverkusen (GER-1) -242* vs Kaiserslautern (GER-1)
    Pending 4/11/12 2:00pm Germany Soccer 267 Bayern Munchen (GER-1) pk +102* vs Borussia Dortmund (GER-1)
    Pending 4/11/12 2:00pm Holland Soccer 357 PSV Eindhoven (HOL-E) -162* vs RKC Waalwick (HOL-E)
    Pending 4/11/12 3:00pm Holland Soccer 363 Ajax (HOL-E) -109* vs Heerenveen (HOL-E)
    Pending 4/11/12 2:45pm Italy Soccer 174 Inter (ITA-A) -162* vs Siena (ITA-A)
    Pending 4/11/12 2:00pm Spain Soccer 222 Valencia (ESP-P) -204* vs Rayo Vallecano (ESP-P)
    Pending 4/11/12 4:00pm Spain Soccer 230 Real Madrid (ESP-P) -171* vs Atletico Madrid (ESP-P)

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    My safest Parlay failed when EL INSTITUTO failed me, but today I hit my very first Parlay!

    Here it is:

    Win 10 Team Parlay
    Win 4/11/12 2:30pm Belgium Soccer 901 Anderlecht (BEL) +145* vs AA Gent (BEL)
    Win 4/11/12 2:30pm Belgium Soccer 905 Genk (BEL) -126* vs Kortrijk (BEL)
    Win 4/11/12 2:15pm Czech Rep Soccer 1275 Sparta Prague (CZE-Cup) -142* vs Jablonec (CZE-Cup)
    Win 4/11/12 2:00pm Germany Soccer 265 Bayer Leverkusen (GER-1) -248* vs Kaiserslautern (GER-1)
    Win 4/11/12 2:45pm Italy Soccer 174 Inter (ITA-A) -158* vs Siena (ITA-A)
    Win 4/11/12 12:30pm Poland Soccer 1572 Legia Warsaw (POL-Cup) -307* vs ARKA Gdynia (POL-Cup)
    Win 4/11/12 2:45pm Scotland Soccer 1771 Ross County (SCO-1) -120* vs Ayr (SCO-1)
    Win 4/10/12 10:00pm South America Soccer 611 Atletico Nacional (Copa-Liber) -208* vs Penarol Montevideo (Copa-Liber)
    Win 4/11/12 2:00pm Spain Soccer 222 Valencia (ESP-P) -204* vs Rayo Vallecano (ESP-P)
    Win 4/11/12 4:00pm Spain Soccer 230 Real Madrid (ESP-P) -162* vs Atletico Madrid (ESP-P)


    It was only a $2 bet, so I won a little under $300 for it. Glad to finally break my duck, can't wait to pick another later tonight!

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    Go Parlay:

    Pending 8 Team Parlay
    Pending 4/12/12 2:30pm Belgium Soccer 301 FC Brugge (BEL) pk +138* vs Standard Liege (BEL)
    Pending 4/12/12 11:30am Finland Soccer 405 Oulu (FIN-Cup) +241* vs KUPS (FIN-Cup)
    Pending 4/12/12 1:00pm Holland Soccer 61 Utrecht (HOL-E) -106* vs De Graafschap (HOL-E)
    Pending 4/12/12 2:45pm Italy Soccer 11002 Bologna / Cagliari not draw -200* vs Bologna / Cagliari draw
    Pending 4/12/12 8:50pm South America Soccer 210 Libertad (Copa-Liber) +116* vs Alianza Lima (Copa-Liber)
    Pending 4/12/12 2:00pm Spain Soccer 31 Malaga (ESP-P) pk +104* vs Villarreal (ESP-P)
    Pending 4/12/12 4:00pm Spain Soccer 38 FC Sevilla (ESP-P) -211* vs Zaragoza (ESP-P)
    Pending 4/12/12 1:00pm Sweden Soccer 705 Hacken (SWE-A) -161* vs Mjallby (SWE-A)

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    Bologna and Cagliari will end in a draw

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    Quote Originally Posted by camelbreath$ View Post
    Bologna and Cagliari will end in a draw
    It's a worthy bet, I like

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    Oulu, my Jordan "slam dunk" pick of the day lost. Few Parlays decimated after that loss since they were connected to Oulu. Turkish and Finnish leagues are off from now on.

    New parlay:

    4/12/12 8:00pm Argentina Soccer 101 Atletico Rafaela (ARG-Copa) +131* vs Athletico Tucuman (ARG-Copa)
    Pending 4/13/12 7:10pm Argentina Soccer 122 Estudiantes LP (ARG) -113* vs Colon (ARG)
    Pending 4/12/12 2:30pm Belgium Soccer 301 FC Brugge (BEL) +285* vs Standard Liege (BEL)
    Pending 4/14/12 7:45am England Soccer 11 Manchester City (ENG-P) -190* vs Norwich City (ENG-P)
    Pending 4/12/12 2:45pm Italy Soccer 11002 Bologna / Cagliari not draw -188* vs Bologna / Cagliari draw
    Pending 4/12/12 6:30pm South America Soccer 201 Lanus (Copa-Liber) +1 -129* vs Flamengo (Copa-Liber)
    Pending 4/12/12 6:30pm South America Soccer 204 Emelec (Copa-Liber) +1 -136* vs Club Olimpia (Copa-Liber)
    Pending 4/12/12 8:50pm South America Soccer 210 Libertad (Copa-Liber) +112* vs Alianza Lima (Copa-Liber)
    Pending 4/12/12 4:00pm Spain Soccer 38 FC Sevilla (ESP-P) -221* vs Zaragoza (ES


    I'm playing the "not Draw" for the Italian game just because of the many different ways that I COULD win this bet--compared to the single way of losing it.

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    I've also 'hedged' the FC Brugge match.

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    Would have LOVED to see FC Brugge win that one, but at least they leveled at the death. Glad I played the draw also.

    Roll on you crazy Parlay:

    Pending 8 Team Parlay
    Pending 4/12/12 8:00pm Argentina Soccer 101 Atletico Rafaela (ARG-Copa) +131* vs Athletico Tucuman (ARG-Copa)
    Pending 4/13/12 7:10pm Argentina Soccer 122 Estudiantes LP (ARG) -113* vs Colon (ARG)
    Win 4/12/12 2:30pm Belgium Soccer 301 Draw (FC Brugge (BEL) vs Standard Liege (BEL)) +237* vs FC Brugge (BEL)
    Pending 4/14/12 7:45am England Soccer 11 Manchester City (ENG-P) -190* vs Norwich City (ENG-P)
    Win 4/12/12 2:45pm Italy Soccer 11002 Bologna / Cagliari not draw -188* vs Bologna / Cagliari draw
    Pending 4/12/12 6:30pm South America Soccer 201 Lanus (Copa-Liber) +1 -129* vs Flamengo (Copa-Liber)
    Pending 4/12/12 6:30pm South America Soccer 204 Emelec (Copa-Liber) +1 -136* vs Club Olimpia (Copa-Liber)
    Pending 4/12/12 4:00pm Spain Soccer 38 FC Sevilla (ESP-P) -221* vs Zaragoza (ESP-P)

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    The good news: I covered the Atletico Rafaela bet by picking them to "draw" in a Parlay exactly like the one above...The bad news: LANUS loses 3-0 with an insane +1 spread! Did not see that Flamengo beat down coming.

    This Parlay, and others like it, done & dusted:
    Loss 7 Team Parlay
    Win 4/12/12 9:00pm Argentina Soccer 101 Draw (Atletico Rafaela (ARG-Copa) vs Athletico Tucuman (ARG-Copa)) +218* vs Atletico Rafaela (ARG-Copa)
    Loss 4/12/12 6:30pm South America Soccer 201 Lanus (Copa-Liber) +1 -110* vs Flamengo (Copa-Liber)
    Win 4/12/12 6:30pm South America Soccer 204 Emelec (Copa-Liber) +1 -126* vs Club Olimpia (Copa-Liber)
    Win 4/12/12 8:50pm South America Soccer 207 Vasco de Gama (Copa-Liber) pk -124* vs Nacional Montevideo (Copa-Liber)
    Win 4/12/12 8:50pm South America Soccer 210 Libertad (Copa-Liber) +111* vs Alianza Lima (Copa-Liber)


    The odds makers can really be amazing sometimes. I'm just in awe of the skill it takes to bait some of these matches.

    For example:

    4/13/12 3:00pm Rep Ireland Soccer 1958 Wexford Youths (IRE-1) +534* vs Limerick (IRE-1)

    Yes, Limerick are good. Yeah, Limerick did win 6-0 at home last time they played Wexford Youth. However, How can you possibly not take Wexford Youth AT home WITH those odds???

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