[snip3r2006]

Not attacking you, Snipe, that's why I said those hands could very well exonerate or "clear" you of any wrongdoing whatsoever..... If it turns out those donks donked off their chips to players other than you, and there were no questionable hands whatsoever, all of your accusers, me included, will owe you a big apology.

I just hope SBR takes action to reveal the info. You should to, as it would clear your name entirely if there was no chip dumping going on.

i hope so too ... but i dont think this will help my reputation ... people take things like this as a fact ...
you can ask peavy ... i written a mail to sbr team on the first day this shit happens to me, ask for having a look at the hands and post real FACTS in forum (jake was cc)

[snip3r2006]

we need to see if sbr will, for example, provide the information as to the folder's hole cards on the hand that Spider requested Snipe post (and which Snipe did in fact post). If the folder had squadoosh, then it was clearly a chip dump.

i dont even think he made a bad play there ... what woudt you do in his spot with a hand like AQ ???

[Auto Donk]

i hope so too ... but i dont think this will help my reputation ... people take things like this as a fact ...
you can ask peavy ... i written a mail to sbr team on the first day this shit happens to me, ask for having a look at the hands and post real FACTS in forum (jake was cc)

I for one will "eat crow" -- a saying here in the States, in other words, "eat my words" -- if there is no evidence of any chip dumping. I will also regain respect for you and your play. (Granted, I am quite confident that all players on SBR, when they first start playing in the poker room, or come back to it after a long hiatus, run white hot. I won like crazy my first month, as well. So much that Kockn and Russian Rocket -- who is now a friend of mine on the forum -- thought I was either an employee of sbr with access to their hole cards or some type of f'n superuser).

and if you did email sbr to ask that they review the hand histories in an effort to clear your name, that too tells me you are probably on the up and up. (Or that, like with your poker game, you are very confident in your ability to conceal your "chip dumping" game by choosing to dump only on hands that are explainable and do not raise "red flags"..... JUST KIDDING.....)

[RudyRuetigger]

sniper I have come not to like you. why?

you hate America for being arrogant and thinking they are number 1.

what are you doing with this leaderboard challenge if not that?

[RudyRuetigger]

also no one that has said you are cheating can beat 10NL so I wouldn't worry about it until more hands get shown

[snip3r2006]

sniper I have come not to like you. why?

you hate America for being arrogant and thinking they are number 1.

what are you doing with this leaderboard challenge if not that?

this challenge was for fun ... i like to mix things like this in my daily work at the tables ... because it is good deed (hope this is the correct word) to get a feedback by an opponent. it is lonely as an online pro!!!

and i dont hate america! it was my first reaction to the thing happend at the poker chat ... i just dont like to be called a cheater (especially by people with no idear of the pokergame i play (no arrognace, but we just play a diffente game or have a different look at it)

i know my reaction with this "bomb before proof" stuff was not reasonable. im sorry for that

[Auto Donk]

i dont even think he made a bad play there ... what woudt you do in his spot with a hand like AQ ???

that's why having SBR reveal what his cards will be very telling. If he had aq, maybe there's a grey area. If he had shitty cards and had missed (or possibly hit -- for example, what if he laid down a set to you!!), it was indicate something is amiss and a chip dump had taken place. If holding AQ, possibly he stays fishing for his card on the river. That's the grey area -- most people that conspire to chip dump do so while in communication with each other, and in light of their knowing that the hands are capable of being reviewed for evidence of impropriety, wait for hands in which their action can be reasonably explained.

we just need to see the hands, and it should be very easy for intelligent players to see whether the play passes the "smell test." Using the example above, if a dump was in play, and the dumper held 66 and the receiver ak, and the dealer flopped an ace or k, and 66 called ak's bet, and then sucked out with a six on the turn but nevertheless folded when the receiver holding ak bet the turn, there'd be a helluva problem.

the hands, with hole cards exposed, will be very telling. And, according to you, should easily clear your name.

[RudyRuetigger]

sniper so you are claiming you do this strictly for fun? then y add the extra bet? I think this is a good discussion that came from ridiculous claims

[snip3r2006]

sniper so you are claiming you do this strictly for fun? then y add the extra bet? I think this is a good discussion that came from ridiculous claims

its no challeng without the bets ... no respont here ... no fun

it was not to win something ... more for the trash talk and stuff like this (cheating talk not included)

"I think this is a good discussion that came from ridiculous claims" i dont know what this means

[Auto Donk]

i agree with Sniper here.... the same reason millionaires make small bets against their friends on their respective alma mattersa/rivals.... it's not really about the money, it's just about pride and to add a little something extra to the contest (here, the boredom of playing such low stakes daily tourneys).

I can attest to this past December's poker play at SBR being a little more interesting, in watching Small b waves flounder and fail in his efforts to catch me in our challenge. The fact that i won some sum equal to around $160-$170 bucks was irrelevant. Having braggin' rights over that prick, and making him eat all of his year-long often-repeated words about me being under pressure, on the verge of choking, destined to fall of the leader board, how he's "just setting me up" like he did tripe, etc., etc....., is why the yearly challenge was important to me.

Having proven all of that to be absolute bullshit from Small b, and having kicked his ass in the challenge -- for the sake of pride -- is, like the credit card commercial, "PRICELESS"........

[aggieshawn]

Hey Scarfboy
No one cares about the past if you just put your ghosts to rest. The 7 pm does not need you taking up 5 spots each game.

Questions, I have for you and everyone to mull over.
LSU4ever again enters the two difficult January free rolls with a 15 min entry window before they filled up. A pretty sharp newbie
Scarfboy has been so quick to post hands. Yet he never posted one hand involving himself and LSU4ever?
None of these new players have stepped up to identify themselves, tried be part of SBR Forum, asked a question, engaged in poker chat or defended themselves. Yet they still log in to play hours before the poker starts. (One ghost did say "nh" at the final table though")
No one seems to care about them.

Why when Scarfboy was banned, did he asked Jake for assistance, yet never mention his friend too also be unbanned. Nor did his friend come forward and say "ya, my fault, I was at my best friends scarf's house and logged into my SBR account".
No Scarfboy's Only reply is .. I don't know the person's name, phone number, SBR account ID he was just one of 40 at the party.
Did you gave him and everyone else there your computer and wifi code to use??

Again Scarfboy, no one cares if it ends now.
Or maybe just give LSU4ever one top 20 finish to boost his confidence.
I bet that "big" hand lose you had to LSUever hand would show you a massive favorite to him and then him somehow sucking out. Otherwise, how could you lose to him. LSU4ever is a terrible of a poker player as he is a dedicated newbie to play.

Remember though, everyone is watching now.. No one wants you to leave as this is most action in the poker forum since BigBlue.

[RudyRuetigger]

donk you were first one to say sniper cheated, now you agree with him

you are clearly clueless as fukk so stfu

[mpaschal34]

so much for getting in the 6 pm....filled again. oh well, might as watch to see what fireworks happen.

[snip3r2006]

Hey Scarfboy
No one cares about the past if you just put your ghosts to rest. The 7 pm does not need you taking up 5 spots each game.

Questions, I have for you and everyone to mull over.
LSU4ever again enters the two difficult January free rolls with a 15 min entry window before they filled up. A pretty sharp newbie
Scarfboy has been so quick to post hands. Yet he never posted one hand involving himself and LSU4ever?
None of these new players have stepped up to identify themselves, tried be part of SBR Forum, asked a question, engaged in poker chat or defended themselves. Yet they still log in to play hours before the poker starts. (One ghost did say "nh" at the final table though")
No one seems to care about them.

Why when Scarfboy was banned, did he asked Jake for assistance, yet never mention his friend too also be unbanned. Nor did his friend come forward and say "ya, my fault, I was at my best friends scarf's house and logged into my SBR account".
No Scarfboy's Only reply is .. I don't know the person's name, phone number, SBR account ID he was just one of 40 at the party.
Did you gave him and everyone else there your computer and wifi code to use??

Again Scarfboy, no one cares if it ends now.
Or maybe just give LSU4ever one top 20 finish to boost his confidence.
I bet that "big" hand lose you had to LSUever hand would show you a massive favorite to him and then him somehow sucking out. Otherwise, how could you lose to him. LSU4ever is a terrible of a poker player as he is a dedicated newbie to play.

Remember though, everyone is watching now.. No one wants you to leave as this is most action in the poker forum since BigBlue.

like always ... you just make facts you cant proof or are just not corrct

- i posted hand with lsu
- i lost tptk to his tp openender
- what freerolls you talking about ???
- like i said maybe 5 times ... i dont even know that my friend got banned ... i dont even know he did login
- hey mr. holmes ... we played poker ... live and online ... watched football ... maybe 5 people had laptops ... and my pc was running too ... (mybe you come to my home and take fingerprints)
- i just told sbr what i think happend .. i dont think they unbanned me for no reason ... i dont even know how that bann happend (automatic or by person?)

i dont know why you do this ... but post proves or stfu

[SharpAngles]

Why is Wesley Snip3s the only one coming here to defend himself with not a peep from the other suspect accounts?

Times like this have me missing biter...We'd have the full story within an hour, including detailed full frontals of all parties involved and more than likely a brief history lesson on mid 70's German scarf porn.

Can only hope we witness an Ali like return to the ring from SBR's lead detective, aka "private dick"

[mpaschal34]

Ok...now I'm out it. What happened to biteme?

[Auto Donk]

donk you were first one to say sniper cheated, now you agree with him

you are clearly clueless as fukk so stfu

fuk you rudy, u dumbass....

I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with him at this point. I've seen two-three hand histories that obviously raise questions, particularly the hand that Spider requested be posted, where the folder/alleged chip dumber was in the hand big, first making and then calling very substantial bets, only to fold to a bet on the river despite the majority of his chips being in the pot. Only chasing a draw would generally support those calls and no re-raise on the flop and turn, and then a fold on the river.

Revealing the hole cards of the folder in that hand would possibly be outcome determinative as to whether a chip dump occurred. Sniper has suggested it might fall in the AQ range. But it's out there -- and it's not going to change -- and sbr can review it and the dozens of other hands over the first 20-25 tournies of the year in which the alleged team members lost their chips.

And, are you just a dumb drunk, or a pathetic liar? If your dumb ass could read, you'd see many others raised this issue long before I did. Wake the fuk up.... take a shower.... I was emailed about it a week or two before I even mentioned on the board, dumbass. I was hardly "the first one". Talk about a clueless fuk.... go look in mirror, lush....

The next time you decide to open your stupid fukkin' pie hole in reference to me, try to gain at least a first' grader's level of understanding of the facts.... It's ironic you call me clueless, as you obviously truly are in this instance....

I said let's see the evidence.... that will tell the tale in this matter....

Until that time: 1. I couldn't give a fuk and 2. I'll give Snipe the benefit of the doubt, particularly if he did send a request to sbr to investigate the matter to clear his name.

The bottom line is those hand histories aren't going to change, and even a dumb drunk like yourself will be able to determine whether it blatantly occurred or not.

[SharpAngles]

Last I heard was that biteme has finished his vision quest for true enlightenment and is currently seeking assistance from tribal elders to interpret the words of the Yellow Beaver he encountered while on that mountain top

[snip3r2006]

fuk you rudy, u dumbass....

I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with him at this point. I've seen two-three hand histories that obviously raise questions, particularly the hand that Spider requested be posted, where the folder/alleged chip dumber was in the hand big, first making and then calling very substantial bets, only to fold to a bet on the river despite the majority of his chips being in the pot. Only chasing a draw would generally support those calls and no re-raise on the flop and turn, and then a fold on the river.

there is no hand like this ... show me pls

[daneblazer]

do all hhs show button wrong???

yea most of them do

[daneblazer]

***** Hand history (v1.2) *****
Hand ID 5572221
$0 + $6 Texas Hold'em (No Limit) - 19:47:00 01.02.2016 ET
Table 'Table 64752', 10 seats max, Real money
Seat 9 is the button. Small Blind $100, Big Blind $200
Note: seat IDs range from 1 to 10
Seat 1 (playing) : luisballo, amount $4789, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
Seat 2 (playing) : BeerDog99, amount $720, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
Seat 3 (playing) : Grivas_Digeni, amount $2841, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
Seat 4 (playing) : moretti, amount $3100, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
Seat 5 (playing) : BIG, amount $4730, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
Seat 6 (playing) : spurginobili1, amount $4599, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
Seat 7 (playing) : GUMMO77, amount $4285, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
Seat 9 (playing) : snip3r2006, amount $4960, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
Seat 10 (playing) : MastaRichard, amount $2644, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
MastaRichard: Small Blind ($100)
luisballo: Big Blind ($200)
** Dealing Down Cards **
Dealt to snip3r2006: [9h, 9c]
BeerDog99: Fold
Grivas_Digeni: Fold
moretti: Fold
BIG: Fold
spurginobili1: Fold
GUMMO77: Fold
snip3r2006: Raise [btn] ($400)
MastaRichard: Fold
luisballo: Raise ($1200)
snip3r2006: Call [btn] ($800)
** Dealing Flop **
Community cards: [2h, Js, Jd]
luisballo: Bet ($1000)
snip3r2006: Call [btn] ($1000)
** Dealing Turn **
Community cards: [Kc]
luisballo: Check ($0)
snip3r2006: Bet [btn] ($1200)
luisballo: Fold
** End Round **
** Evaluate **
snip3r2006: Muck ($0)
** Showdown **
Main pot $4500, Rake $0
Summary snip3r2006: bet $3400, won $4500, net $1100, won $4500 from main pot

Not picking a side, but if this is what you are basing your cheating argument on, you have a pretty weak case

[Grivas_Digeni]

Hey Scarfboy
No one cares about the past if you just put your ghosts to rest. The 7 pm does not need you taking up 5 spots each game.

Remember though, everyone is watching now.. No one wants you to leave as this is most action in the poker forum since BigBlue.

I'd say I'd prefer he stayed banned because I can't win shit these days. No offense.

You must really not give a bleep about points/gift cards/ money if you think it's acceptable for him to allegedly cheat for a period of time, then get caught with a smoking gun and just be like 'sorry guys won't happen again'. IF what people insinuate is true it's a very easy decision for any tournament director/floorman in a Vegas card room (or for a security guy in an online poker room). Ban with confiscation.

Also, who is BigBlue?

[bobbywaves]

who is BigBlue?

http://www.sportsbookreview.com/foru...n-last-me.html

[aggieshawn]

I'd say I'd prefer he stayed banned because I can't win shit these days. No offense.

You must really not give a bleep about points/gift cards/ money if you think it's acceptable for him to allegedly cheat for a period of time, then get caught with a smoking gun and just be like 'sorry guys won't happen again'. IF what people insinuate is true it's a very easy decision for any tournament director/floorman in a Vegas card room (or for a security guy in an online poker room). Ban with confiscation.

Also, who is BigBlue?

I am not a malious person. People do lots of stuff here for shits and giggles.

BigBlue ... oh BigBlue....Initially I thought Scarfboy was another BigBlue.
BigBlue was an idle account years old. Given lots of points then came to the poker room, won everything, talked real big trash, blew up in the ring games and then left never to be seen again.

Good Times.

[aggieshawn]

Not picking a side, but if this is what you are basing your cheating argument on, you have a pretty weak case

This happend non stop for three rounds of hands from three different - newbie poker players to SB.
Table was full, next thing, one guy had all the chips with not one flop being played. It was very obvious playing in the game. Blind levels, the way they play before etc. Some of us use to bonus whore before too remember.

[SharpAngles]

This happend non stop for three rounds of hands from three different - newbie poker players to SB.
Table was full, next thing, one guy had all the chips with not one flop being played. It was very obvious playing in the game. Blind levels, the way they play before etc. Some of us use to bonus whore before too remember.

why not post hh if it's so obvious and maybe SBR can look into it. Maybe just hand #s if you cant c&p. I don't get the feeling snip3 is a villain here but the circumstantial evidence is growing so why not do as he asks and look into it SBR?

[snip3r2006]

This happend non stop for three rounds of hands from three different - newbie poker players to SB.
Table was full, next thing, one guy had all the chips with not one flop being played. It was very obvious playing in the game. Blind levels, the way they play before etc. Some of us use to bonus whore before too remember.

wtf ??? show me one hand pls or stfu!!!

[Auto Donk]

even "showing" hh's from tables with big raises by teammates, then folds by a teammate won't say shit if we don't know what the players hole cards are; this is info that only sbr will have access to.

sbr should look into all hands of the alleged teammates (lsu4ever, luisballo, ivanloko, etc.) where they lost their chips. If it was by the traditional "ill bet big, you come over the top, I'll fold" variety of chip dump, always to the alleged villian, let's see the FULL hand and what each player held. It's pretty simple to determine once you see all the hands and pattern of dumping....

[RudyRuetigger]

goddamn you are clueless donk

[RudyRuetigger]

yea most of them do

ohhh I get a true answer from the 1 person I trust knows poker and can play professionally

[Auto Donk]

goddamn you are clueless donk

maybe your dumbass can't figure out a chip dump scheme from a simple review of hand histories with hole cards exposed, but the rest of us can you dumb fuk

[RudyRuetigger]

I said I see nothing here

others chimed in to agree

[Auto Donk]

duh.... you haven't seen but 1-2 hand histories...

[RudyRuetigger]

so post them

[SharpAngles]

duh.... you haven't seen but 1-2 hand histories...

Because none of the accusers have posted the "obvious" evidence. They simply drop in and casually accuse the scarf of some serious sht.

Im sure you of all people understand the presumption of innocence snip3 deserves here.