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    Wall Street Journal article on gambling

    http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB100014...23383535635644


    On any given day, the chances of emerging a winner aren't too bad—the gamblers won money on 30% of the days they wagered. But continuing to gamble is a bad bet. Just 11% of players ended up in the black over the full period, and most of those pocketed less than $150.

    The skew was even more pronounced when it came to heavy gamblers. Of the top 10% of bettors—those placing the largest number of total wagers over the two years—about 95% ended up losing money, some dropping tens of thousands of dollars. Big losers of more than $5,000 among these heavy gamblers outnumbered big winners by a staggering 128 to 1.

    The researchers found similar patterns: Only 13.5% of gamblers ended up winning, versus 11% among Bwin customers, and the ratios of big losers to big winners were similarly large.

    Among the whole group of 4,222 gamblers, just seven won more than $5,000 (€3,698) over the two years, while 217 lost more than $5,000. That's a 31-1 ratio of big losers to big winners.

    Gambler No. 1357078, a Swiss man who was 56 years old when he opened his account, was a classic heavy gambler. He played an average of three days a week, typically placing more than 1,000 bets per day and averaging $9 per bet. He lost on 84% of the days he gambled, and over the two years gambled away more than $110,000.

    Unless they cheat, about the only way gamblers can win at games of chance is to get lucky and then stop gambling.

    That's how No. 1381787 emerged as the biggest overall winner. A 56-year-old Slovenian man, he typically placed only a few modest bets per day. Then he struck gold, twice winning more than $14,000 within 10 days. After suffering a partial setback, he stopped playing on the Bwin site, netting about $22,000.



    I posted the highlights.

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    Basically means it's hard to win

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Basically means it's hard to win
    If you are gambling (playing negative expectation wagers) and making lots of plays yes its hard to win

    If you are not gambling and making lots of plays its hard to lose

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    Quote Originally Posted by trytrytry View Post
    If you are gambling (playing negative expectation wagers) and making lots of plays yes its hard to win

    If you are not gambling and making lots of plays its hard to lose
    Wait... what? Not gambling but making lots of plays?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Basically means it's hard to win
    Who needed to see the article to know its hard to win money gambling?

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    One guy was placing more than 1,000 bets per day? WTF?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MUHerd37 View Post
    One guy was placing more than 1,000 bets per day? WTF?
    impossible

    all gambling articles fabricated

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    This article seems to be about online casinos rather than sports betting.

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    I'd say the article is too optimistic. Playing roulette, blackjack and slots online for two whole years? No way do 11% of gamblers win; it can't be even half of that.

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    If you're making a thousand bets a day, obviously, you're just guessing since it's impossible to actually study that many games. So that fact that this guy turned out to be a big loser is hardly breaking news.

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    I know I am a loser in the end. I win and I lose. Been doing this consistently for over 20 years. I'm addicted to the action of this hobby of mine. I have disposable income and never play with $ I don't have.

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    i think this article is regards to the casino games, not sports betting.....bwin's online casino. but i am sure the numbers would be similar if they did the same study with sbr users

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