1. 01-05-15 08:38 AM #1
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    The Difference: Garrett played to win - Caldwell played not to lose



    http://sports.yahoo.com/video/nfl-90...050404402.html
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  2. 01-05-15 09:03 AM #2
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    The Refs were worth 10 points in this game.
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  3. 01-05-15 09:06 AM #3
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    Bear , you need to STOP

    Your e-cred is taking a hit
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  4. 01-05-15 09:13 AM #4
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Odom View Post
    Bear , you need to STOP

    Your e-cred is taking a hit
    there are already 10+ threads about this game why make another one?

    I dont give a fukk about my E-Cred. This game was rigged and you know it.
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  5. 01-05-15 09:14 AM #5
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    exactly

    Caldwell should e fired

    He was reason they lost
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  6. 01-05-15 11:04 AM #6
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    Don't disagree at all. Refs were absolute dogshit, though. That's undeniable.
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  7. 01-05-15 11:06 AM #7
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    In the 2h Detroit didn't blitz as much and tried to play coverage
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  8. 01-05-15 11:07 AM #8
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    The refs in this game made a small error or two....but they got the call right on that PI play.

    The refs in this game were 100x better than the crew that did the Arizona game.
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    bad call lost for the lions, the reef decide that game,,,lions deserve to win that game
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  10. 01-05-15 11:19 AM #10
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    They can call illegal contact on almost every pass play if they want to. They called off PI on Dallas when the db ran over the receiver.
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  11. 01-05-15 12:37 PM #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dollars2Donuts View Post
    The refs in this game made a small error or two....but they got the call right on that PI play.

    The refs in this game were 100x better than the crew that did the Arizona game.
    And Dez Bryant? Running onto the field to argue a penalty call with your helmet off is OK to do in the NFL now?
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  12. 01-05-15 01:45 PM #12
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    Nope. They missed that. My buddy (big Cowboys fan) was yelling at the idiot to get back to the bench. It simply should have been called....but is that really a football play? I see stuff like that get overlooked, especially in emotional times, in sports constantly.

    A lot of sour grapes out there over this result.
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    Sorry NoCoin, forgot you are a Detroit boy.

    I get it man....but when the Canucks lost in the Finals to Boston.....I couldn't blame the refs....even though I have never seen a series with worse officiating....Boston constantly mugged the Sedins....the Canucks didn't overcome it.

    Dez running into the field.....didn't affect the game. It just didnt.
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  14. 01-05-15 03:55 PM #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dollars2Donuts View Post
    Sorry NoCoin, forgot you are a Detroit boy.

    I get it man....but when the Canucks lost in the Finals to Boston.....I couldn't blame the refs....even though I have never seen a series with worse officiating....Boston constantly mugged the Sedins....the Canucks didn't overcome it.

    Dez running into the field.....didn't affect the game. It just didnt.
    I'm not solely blaming the refs. The Lions did plenty to f\*\*k themselves.

    Dez running on the field = unsportsmanlike conduct = automatic first down. So yeah, in that spot, it did affect the game. You can't throw a flag for PI, announce it, then pick it up for no reason and ignore the dude yelling at the refs with his helmet off on the field during the same play.
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  15. 01-05-15 04:03 PM #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by yahoonino View Post
    bad call lost for the lions, the reef decide that game,,,lions deserve to win that game
    Well....if they had scored more than the 3 points they scored in the 2nd half, maybe they would've.

    Let's don't act like they were destined to win this game. Stafford is 0-18 LIFETIME against winning teams on the road.

    Why would this have been any different than the first 17??
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  16. 01-05-15 04:09 PM #16
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    so sick of hearing about who this game was rigged. if the situation was reversed and it was dallas that got fukked over everyone would have laughed. the lions did fukk all after taking a 14-0 lead. any team that blows a 14-0 lead should not be deserving to win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by opie1988 View Post
    Well....if they had scored more than the 3 points they scored in the 2nd half, maybe they would've.

    Let's don't act like they were destined to win this game. Stafford is 0-18 LIFETIME against winning teams on the road.

    Why would this have been any different than the first 17??
    All true opie, but don't act like Romo has been any more clutch than Stafford in his career to date.

    Dallas had what, 1 playoff win in the last 18 years before yesterday?

    Let's face it: yesterday's game just came down to the lesser of two evils. Both are loser QBs until they finally prove otherwise. Beating the Lions at home on a miracle comeback doesn't prove anything. Romo wins in GB, then we can start to rewrite his legacy.
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  18. 01-05-15 04:20 PM #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    All true opie, but don't act like Romo has been any more clutch than Stafford in his career to date.

    Dallas had what, 1 playoff win in the last 18 years before yesterday?

    Let's face it: yesterday's game just came down to the lesser of two evils. Both are loser QBs until they finally prove otherwise. Beating the Lions at home on a miracle comeback doesn't prove anything. Romo wins in GB, then we can start to rewrite his legacy.
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  19. 01-05-15 05:00 PM #19
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    That's the whole fukking point LB!!! The roles would have never been reversed not in this matchup. If you truly believe the league bends a bit for certain brands or QB's it's all about busine$$. Where is the monetary gain in helping grease Detroit past Dallas?? Yeah corporate sponsors, tv execs , etc everywhere were hoping Detroit won I'm sure.
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  20. 01-05-15 05:04 PM #20
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    detroit guys want to let caldwell go? ok, id like to see that and then see the result of 2015/16 lions watching the playoffs from home
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoWays View Post
    detroit guys want to let caldwell go? ok, id like to see that and then see the result of 2015/16 lions watching the playoffs from home
    Where are you seeing that?

    Caldwell was a meh hire for me, but hell, given the shitstorm of coaches that has come through Detroit since Fontes, he's OK in my book.
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  22. 01-05-15 05:12 PM #22
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    Caldwell should be fired

    Another dumb uneducated coach that got job to fill quotas
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    Quote Originally Posted by R.P. McMurphy View Post
    That's the whole fukking point LB!!! The roles would have never been reversed not in this matchup. If you truly believe the league bends a bit for certain brands or QB's it's all about busine$$. Where is the monetary gain in helping grease Detroit past Dallas?? Yeah corporate sponsors, tv execs , etc everywhere were hoping Detroit won I'm sure.
    give it up pal. just give it up. the refs make mistakes in the nfl. its not the first time and it wont be the last. when players make mistakes they get pay raises. when refs fukk up they get tossed out by the league. sponsors want certain teams to win for sure but they have no control over it. did you know dallas has 2 playoff wins in the last 18 years? where were the guys to grease them by in the past?
    nfl games are not rigged. bad calls can help influence the outcome , the games are not predetermined.
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  24. 01-05-15 07:56 PM #24
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    Sam, you sneaky little oyster.

    You pretty much ripped me off verbatim, from the other Caldwell thread, in your heading of this thread.
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  25. 01-05-15 08:17 PM #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by shaunovery View Post
    In the 2h Detroit didn't blitz as much and tried to play coverage
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    Over 8 minutes left, I dont see too much wrong with punting with a lead to pin them back near endzone. Punting is not why they lost.
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  27. 01-05-15 08:28 PM #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eddy Munny View Post
    Sam, you sneaky little oyster.

    You pretty much ripped me off verbatim, from the other Caldwell thread, in your heading of this thread.

    Really...

    I put the title the way it is because that is bascally what is said in the linked video
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Odom View Post


    http://sports.yahoo.com/video/nfl-90...050404402.html
    More refs wanted Cowboys to win. All calls against Lions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Odom View Post
    Really...

    I put the title the way it is because that is bascally what is said in the linked video
    Basically schmasically... I'm not buying any of that nonsense.

    I'm probably gonna sue you if I have time.
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  30. 01-05-15 11:09 PM #30
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    Hire Little Deemer. I understand he plans on being a slip & fall TV lawyer
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    Dude your an idiot. The difference, Garrett Teams was down two touchdowns, they had no choice but to go for it on 4th down. Bill Belicheck is the only coach that wouldn't of punted in that situation, and only if he was having to punt to Peyton Manning. Everyone else would of done the same thing.
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    the only fix was the boyz not covering

    mr automatic missed a FG on joe buck cue
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    Quote Originally Posted by frostno98 View Post
    Dude your an idiot. The difference, Garrett Teams was down two touchdowns, they had no choice but to go for it on 4th down. Bill Belicheck is the only coach that wouldn't of punted in that situation, and only if he was having to punt to Peyton Manning. Everyone else would of done the same thing.
    Disagree....Many coaches out there would go for it in that exact situation, especially on the road as a dog

    Chip Kelly? Riverboat Ron Rivera? I know he's looking for a job now but Rex Ryan has gone for it in the playoffs in similar situations....multiple times in his early years with the Jets... Big reason why they pulled off a bunch of upsets

    I said this before, if you're deciding on what the correct strategy is....There is no question that Dallas WANTS them to punt there, what does that tell you?

    If I'm a Dallas fan, I want no part in having to stop a 4th and 1
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneyLineDawg View Post
    Disagree....Many coaches out there would go for it in that exact situation, especially on the road as a dog

    Chip Kelly? Riverboat Ron Rivera? I know he's looking for a job now but Rex Ryan has gone for it in the playoffs in similar situations....multiple times in his early years with the Jets... Big reason why they pulled off a bunch of upsets

    I said this before, if you're deciding on what the correct strategy is....There is no question that Dallas WANTS them to punt there, what does that tell you?

    If I'm a Dallas fan, I want no part in having to stop a 4th and 1
    I highly doubted that anything you said occurred in the playoffs, and in game where they already had 3 point game where the defense played fairly well all day. River Ron did it last week, but it was because his team was losing early in the game and they needed momentum. Belicheck is the only one that does that, and he only does it because he had zero faith in his defense to stop the other team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by frostno98 View Post
    I highly doubted that anything you said occurred in the playoffs, and in game where they already had 3 point game where the defense played fairly well all day. River Ron did it last week, but it was because his team was losing early in the game and they needed momentum. Belicheck is the only one that does that, and he only does it because he had zero faith in his defense to stop the other team.
    Bill Bel is not the only coach that goes for it there...it's just a lie and speculation at best

    I'm not even saying it's a terrible call to punt there either, but it's the wrong one IMO

    Even if you don't get it you have to stop them anyway....Good chance you get it though and control the game from there

    What would YOU do if you were the coach?
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