1. 10-05-14 01:47 PM #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by etothep View Post
    You don't see how when a team with more recent losses takes a backseat to teams a few weeks away from a loss? Happens in every poll every week every year. If Ole Miss loses this week & Bama wins, Bama will end up leapfrogging Ole Miss b/c Ole Miss lose so they have to drop in the polls while Bama won so they have to be rewarded. That's how the voters in all polls have always reacted & likely always will

    The earlier in the season your team's loss is, the better it's chances at being ranked above a team who's only loss is at the end of they year (see: Florida ahead of Michigan back in the Troy Smith Heisman year) or weeks removed from a loss (Michigan State's was a month ago, Oregon's was this weekend). With the advent of the 4-team playoff, it's presumably less of a issue now, but it's been that way forever. The only way to change it is drop the coaches poll & get AP voters who watch tons of games, not just 1 on Saturday then write their articles & interviews & possibly watch a late game
    I put it wrong, I understand it but don't agree. Think head to head carries more weight
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  2. 10-05-14 01:48 PM #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas39 View Post
    Beat FSU and ND will be there

    The Stanford game not as impressive now as the team that beat them USC has losses to BC and Az St
    Irish will beat FSU but lets be honest, trips to Arizona State and USC plus home against a decent Northwestern team...Irish will not make playoffs with a loss and no conference championship to put on resume to the committee.
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  3. 10-05-14 01:50 PM #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by itchypickle View Post
    Irish will beat FSU but lets be honest, trips to Arizona State and USC plus home against a decent Northwestern team...Irish will not make playoffs with a loss and no conference championship to put on resume to the committee.
    Yes they most likely need to run table for a spot
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  4. 10-05-14 01:50 PM #39
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    My top 5

    1. Mississippi State
    2. Florida State
    3. Auburn
    4. Baylor
    5. Who cares.
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  5. 10-05-14 01:53 PM #40
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    Quote Originally Posted by Urbanwildlife View Post
    My top 5

    1. Mississippi State
    2. Florida State
    3. Auburn
    4. Baylor
    5. Who cares.
    Its important simply because two of the top 4 will obviously eat each other from the SEC so the #5 is a default waiting in line...crazy how this is going to play out. Loving it so far.
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  6. 10-05-14 01:55 PM #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by itchypickle View Post
    Its important simply because two of the top 4 will obviously eat each other from the SEC so the #5 is a default waiting in line...crazy how this is going to play out. Loving it so far.
    Couple good ones next weekend

    A&M must win as can't afford a second loss

    Same factor in UCLA/ Oregon game
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    Touchdown Washington State
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  8. 10-05-14 01:56 PM #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas39 View Post
    I put it wrong, I understand it but don't agree. Think head to head carries more weight
    I agree. Complete bullshit, but Oregon will only be ahead of Michigan State in the polls again if Michigan State loses. It's like the 3 TD win over them didn't even happen
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  9. 10-05-14 01:56 PM #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ra77er View Post
    Touchdown Washington State
    XP wide right
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  10. 10-05-14 01:57 PM #45
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    Quote Originally Posted by etothep View Post
    I agree. Complete bullshit, but Oregon will only be ahead of Michigan State in the polls again if Michigan State loses. It's like the 3 TD win over them didn't even happen

    It will all play out in end but irritated me
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  11. 10-05-14 02:02 PM #46
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    Miss St
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  12. 10-05-14 02:22 PM #47
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    also unbeaten

    not many left
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas39 View Post
    Couple good ones next weekend

    A&M must win as can't afford a second loss

    Same factor in UCLA/ Oregon game
    Yeah the Baylor and TCu and Auburn/Miss St games are gonna be great. A&M should roll Ole Miss in College Station.
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  14. 10-05-14 03:04 PM #49
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    Auburn overrated

    uga should handle them by double digits no matter rankings
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  15. 10-05-14 03:27 PM #50
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    FSU
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  16. 10-05-14 03:28 PM #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChalkyDog View Post
    FSU
    Auburn
    Baylor
    Ole Miss
    TAMU
    Bama
    OU
    UO

    What no Arizona
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas39 View Post
    What no Arizona
    Zona is not good at football. This is another 8-5 team talent wise. We played you guys tough, per usual. Doesn't make us world beaters or even contenders.

    That said, Arizona's schedule sets up really nicely. A one loss year is possible. Two losses likely. (vs. UCLA and ASU).

    2 loss year is insane. Rich Rod to Florida?
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  18. 10-05-14 03:32 PM #53
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChalkyDog View Post
    Zona is not good at football. This is another 8-5 team talent wise. We played you guys tough, per usual. Doesn't make us world beaters or even contenders.

    That said, Arizona's schedule sets up really nicely.
    They will be good , don't see more than 2 or 2 losses. Solomon can play QB
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  19. 10-05-14 05:46 PM #54
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    Baylor has covered all spreads all but once. I ASSume they took that into consideration.
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  20. 10-05-14 06:58 PM #55
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    T. Knight's play will have them off the top 25 soon enough
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  21. 10-05-14 07:22 PM #56
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    Quote Originally Posted by slo mo View Post
    Baylor has covered all spreads all but once. I ASSume they took that into consideration.
    that covering spreads a ratings factor
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  22. 10-05-14 07:24 PM #57
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    Two team show, FSU and Auburn again.
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  23. 10-05-14 09:13 PM #58
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    Quote Originally Posted by Natty68 View Post
    T. Knight's play will have them off the top 25 soon enough

    OU is definitely the Samaje Perine show...if he has an off day they go down. Period. They'll handle the Red River game this weekend but I'd be scared against Baylor now with their margin of error shot after the TCU loss.
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  24. 10-05-14 09:41 PM #59
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  25. 10-06-14 01:36 AM #60
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    1. Auburn
    2. Alabama
    3. Michigan State
    4. Georgia
    5. Florida State

    next 5 in no order: Miss St, Ole Miss, Oklahoma, Ohio State, Oregon

    i thought auburn was gonna regress this year but they have opened my eyes, easily the best team in the country atm. I like the Mississippi teams, but not quite top 5 imho. I put FSU at 5 just because they don't lose. They do not impress me at all, and I think they are a cunthair away from their season turning south. Michigan State might be the best bet in the country to make the playoff. They have Ohio State at home and no other tests on the schedule... excellent team too. That Oregon game was weird at the end and the final score not indicative of how close that game really was. Georgia just can never put it all together and run the table. You really think Miss St and Ole Miss are better than Alabama? Please... yeah Ole Miss got lucky at home and squeaked out a win when Bama's best player was hurt, I know it sounds like Im not giving Ole Miss credit but I dont mean to... Ole miss deserved to win, but to say they are better than Bama? Cmon son...
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  26. 10-06-14 02:01 AM #61
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    Sad to say but Ohio State may be back in this conversation. Go big red
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    Quote Originally Posted by shopbar picks View Post
    Sad to say but Ohio State may be back in this conversation. Go big red
    Im an OSU fan, and we need to beat Michigan State before we deserve to be back in this conversation
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  28. 10-07-14 07:53 PM #63
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    Current odds to win Nat'l title:

    Florida State 11/2
    Auburn 13/2
    Georgia 8/1
    Michigan State 8/1
    Alabama 9/1

    Same top 5 as mine
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    Ole Miss and Miss St go down this weekend.
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  30. 10-07-14 08:30 PM #65
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    Quote Originally Posted by shopbar picks View Post
    Sad to say but Ohio State may be back in this conversation. Go big red
    There schedule is so weak. They got one game left and that's the Michigan State game. Everything else is a cake walk. They need more teams to drop more games because that VT loss looks real bad right now. I do agree they run the table
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