1. 01-13-14 09:43 AM #1
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    ISU +1 vs Kansas?

    Is Kane playing?

    Seems very short here.

    ISU -3 in my opinion
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  2. 01-13-14 09:56 AM #2
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    Lines -2.5 deem
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  3. 01-13-14 09:57 AM #3
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    he ain't playing. ..pound ku before line skies
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  4. 01-13-14 09:58 AM #4
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    Seth Davis tweeted that Kane was very sore on Sunday and didn't practice. He's a game time decision.

    I'd just lay off this one altogether.
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  5. 01-13-14 10:10 AM #5
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    I think ISU can win without him, with him I see a 6-10 pt win.
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  7. 01-13-14 10:16 AM #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDeem5 View Post
    I think ISU can win without him, with him I see a 6-10 pt win.
    ISU basically goes 7 deep. That's it. Kane does it all; the offense flows through him. Scores, rebounds, everything. It's not like they're missing a big man. Yet if he doesn't play, you think ISU could win by double digits? Come on.
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  8. 01-13-14 10:17 AM #8
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    If he plays I said DD

    If he doesn't could still squeak it out.

    Kansas's offense is anemic.

    Wiggins is overrated. Ellis their best player
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    looks good deemer
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  10. 01-13-14 10:34 AM #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDeem5 View Post
    If he plays I said DD

    If he doesn't could still squeak it out.

    Kansas's offense is anemic.

    Wiggins is overrated. Ellis their best player
    LOL I've watched every Kansas game this year and I subscribe to KenPom and NOTHING points to Ellis being their most important player.

    Everyone should probably not take this guys advice.
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  11. 01-13-14 10:35 AM #11
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    Okay, KenPom is good capping tool.

    Tell me who their best player is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDeem5 View Post
    If he plays I said DD

    If he doesn't could still squeak it out.

    Kansas's offense is anemic.

    Wiggins is overrated. Ellis their best player
    My bad -- misread that.
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  13. 01-13-14 10:40 AM #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDeem5 View Post
    Okay, KenPom is good capping tool.

    Tell me who their best player is.
    Most valuable to the team in order: Embiid, Wiggins, Ellis, Tharpe*, Selden

    *If Tharpe plays well, meaning he doesn't take >2 3's only 5 seconds into the shot clock tonight, KU wins
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  14. 01-13-14 10:55 AM #14
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    if u dont know, maybe u should save that $20 and go get dinner at panda express instead.
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  15. 01-13-14 10:59 AM #15
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    Back from mommy and daddys. Did you get some nice presents princess? Hopefully you got a gift card to a fckng orthodontist.
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  16. 01-13-14 11:20 AM #16
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    Kansas seems logical, they are starting to get use to playing with each other
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  17. 01-13-14 11:50 AM #17
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    Isu wins, will see Kanes status.
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  18. 01-13-14 11:57 AM #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDeem5 View Post
    Isu wins, will see Kanes status.
    ISU got absolutely raped by the officials at home last year. They're due for a few good calls tonight.

    I still don't think they can win without Kane at 100% though. Books seem to say otherwise.
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  19. 01-13-14 12:00 PM #19
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    I think Kansas just isn't that good. 20-25ish team. No better
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    ISU -2 now.
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  21. 01-13-14 12:23 PM #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    ISU got absolutely raped by the officials at home last year. They're due for a few good calls tonight.

    I still don't think they can win without Kane at 100% though. Books seem to say otherwise.
    How? They were just -7.5 vs a top 10 (at the time) Baylor team. Now they open +1 vs Kansas and you think books like them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by t-wizzle View Post
    How? They were just -7.5 vs a top 10 (at the time) Baylor team. Now they open +1 vs Kansas and you think books like them?
    The perception of Baylor isn't the same as the perception of Kansas. You know that. Combined with Kane's injury, Kansas' recent Big 12 track record and success vs. ISU, and yeah, I think at -2 (current line) the books still like their chances.
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    But it opened at +1. Let's say Kane is worth 3 points (a lot). That would mean they'd have opened -2. Not much respect to ISU if you ask me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by t-wizzle View Post
    But it opened at +1. Let's say Kane is worth 3 points (a lot). That would mean they'd have opened -2. Not much respect to ISU if you ask me.
    what team is kane on?
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  25. 01-13-14 01:31 PM #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Bear View Post
    what team is kane on?
    He's Iowa States leading scorer
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  26. 01-13-14 01:31 PM #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Bear View Post
    what team is kane on?
    ISU
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    if deemson says isu then i have no choice but to take kansas.

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  28. 01-13-14 01:35 PM #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by Husker36 View Post
    He's Iowa States leading scorer
    and he has been ruled out?
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    Quote Originally Posted by t-wizzle View Post
    But it opened at +1. Let's say Kane is worth 3 points (a lot). That would mean they'd have opened -2. Not much respect to ISU if you ask me.
    I see that it says the opening line was ISU plus 1, but I wrote down the lines that The Greek had posted at 6am and ISU was listed at -5. They are currently at -2 at the same.
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  30. 01-13-14 02:48 PM #30
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    kansas owns iowa state there are some teams that teams just can't beat i'm not saying KANSAS is a winner i'm saying iowa state has big problems when playing kansas bol
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  31. 01-13-14 02:52 PM #31
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    Doug Gottlieb said Kane is playing tonight.
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    If ISU eliminates giving up so many turnovers and offensive boards, IMO they could be the best team in the nation.

    ISU has been putting together extremely athletically gifted teams in the past few years, but they haven't been able to push into that top 5 level yet.

    Eliminating giving up so many offensive boards and turnovers, they'll increase their PPG, as well as offensive efficiency, the only thing which is hurting them this season IMO.

    Their defense actually isn't nearly as bad as some people are led to believe, it's the offensive boards and turnovers which inflate their opponents PPG.

    If this team gets it together, watch out, because they're hands down the most athletically gifted team in the nation.

    If anyone finds a solid price for ISU to win it this year at a reputable shop, let me know please.
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  33. 01-13-14 03:07 PM #33
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    I can't believe he's playing tonight. This kid is going to be pumped full of drugs but how effective will he really be? Along with the fact, Kansas PG Wayne Selden is finally figuring things out. Kansas has also been knocking down their 3's as of late. The run and gun game plan of Iowa State will falter against this current Kansas squad. I'm shocked Iowa State has turned into a 2 point favorite.
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  34. 01-13-14 03:14 PM #34
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    Kane LOOKS good in shoot-around. Good sign unless he is full of pain-killers that could wear off in few hours.


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  35. 01-13-14 03:18 PM #35
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    5 hours til tip... that ankle will be swollen by then.
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