[Cheme82]

[easyliving]

25 FT attempts, wow talk about getting calls

[Cuse0323]

Can't breath on Harden, always been this way. He lowers the ball swings it up into the defenders arm, cheapest player in the league.

[Phanteezy]

Say whaaaaat lmao. they were hacking the shit outta him

[VegasInsider]

Wow...I was tracking the game and never realized it!

James Harden, SG

44

2-9

1-5

22-25

[Cheme82]

That's stupid play by Memphis though, you know he's going to drive and look for contact so why give it to him? Don't touch him and make him make the shots. He's good from the line so don't put him there.

By the way I don't think that's being cheap, I call it being smart. Stupid defenders allow him to do it and the refs keep feeding his free-throw habit so he takes advantage of it.

Meanwhile Howard fuked up my fantasy bets because he was in foul trouble early and sat down most of the game.

[Cuse0323]

It's smart but I can't watch it. He initiates contact every time and is bailed out, time after time. I'd rather watch any player in the league over Harden. So I'm biased I suppose.

[GoBlue77]

he's highly overrated as a player, without free throw attempts he's garbage. he's a low percentage fg shooter so you should never foul the guy

[lunch]

Harden dives like a mofo but it works refs buy it. He's like a cheaper Manu Ginobili

[BigDofBA]

I miss all of those cheap free throws.

[face]

he is a good player, driving to the rim is a great idea if you are fast and can handle the ball, lots of good things happen if you drive to the rim

[Cheme82]

It's smart but I can't watch it. He initiates contact every time and is bailed out, time after time. I'd rather watch any player in the league over Harden. So I'm biased I suppose.

I feel you, but you should be 1/3 mad at him, 1/3 mad at the defenders, and 1/3 mad at the refs.

[Catch77]

He and KD were taught that in OKC. KD doesnt do it as much, especially since the league made the "swing through your hands rule" that got him to the line like 4 times a game. Agree its kinda cheap but teams should learn not to bail him out. Let him take the circus shots hes attempting just dont foul him.

[Cuse0323]

I feel you, but you should be 1/3 mad at him, 1/3 mad at the defenders, and 1/3 mad at the refs.

Yeah, I definitely put a lot on the refs as well but this is how they're told to call it. Though if it's a big guy down low, he can get mugged all day. As long as you drive to the basket, chances are you'll get the call. Sad state the NBA is in but it is what it is. The blatant missed goal tending on a Z-Bo shot was the killer tonight, 5 point swing as Parsons got an and1 at the other end and that was all she wrote. I got my NBA fix in for the season until playoffs.

[cruzing vato]

So he makes points and he gets the other guys in foul trouble.
That is quality basketball.

[TheMoneyShot]

Once you've realized how the refs will call Harden's play... you can really determined the angle on dog or favorite. I've seen games in which Harden was practically murdered going to the hole... and no calls were made... Houston loses. When Harden gets the officiating crew on his side... they win. Once he knows in his head he isn't getting calls... watch how his game changes. He becomes a pu$$y and it gets to his head.... and it totally ruins his game. Keep a close eye sometime... especially on the road.

[Cheme82]

Yeah, I definitely put a lot on the refs as well but this is how they're told to call it. Though if it's a big guy down low, he can get mugged all day. As long as you drive to the basket, chances are you'll get the call. Sad state the NBA is in but it is what it is. The blatant missed goal tending on a Z-Bo shot was the killer tonight, 5 point swing as Parsons got an and1 at the other end and that was all she wrote. I got my NBA fix in for the season until playoffs.

You had them at +7.5 huh?

[Cuse0323]

You had them at +7.5 huh?

Just an observer, no more gambling for me.

[lakerboy]

harden is a player you fade in the nba finals.

[cruzing vato]

No way that rockets make the finals

[TheAntFather]

Dam, a bunch of mad people on here.lmao. Harden is a Top 10 player easily in the league. If anyone on this board can stop Harden from driving to the basket or getting free throws, go ahead and try and stop him instead of crying behind a computer. Just like in life, if you don't like something, go out and change it. Talk is cheap and will get nothing done.

[Sledge187]

he's highly overrated as a player, without free throw attempts he's garbage. he's a low percentage fg shooter so you should never foul the guy

wow you are really stupid. Harden is one of the top 5 finishers in the league. Guy is amazing!

[Cuse0323]

Harden is a beast, no question. Not many in the league that can check him defensively, he will always get his points. I think Houston has a great shot to come out of the West. Harden/Howard, number 2 and 3 in FT's a game in the league. They have great pieces and a great coach, McHale knows how to coach. They clogged the paint on Memphis late and had 5 guys converging on the paint at times and Memphis didn't have the shooters to combat it. I really like what McHale is doing in Houston.

[greenhippo]

he's highly overrated as a player, without free throw attempts he's garbage. he's a low percentage fg shooter so you should never foul the guy

53% from 2pt land.

[aireent777]

Once you've realized how the refs will call Harden's play... you can really determined the angle on dog or favorite. I've seen games in which Harden was practically murdered going to the hole... and no calls were made... Houston loses. When Harden gets the officiating crew on his side... they win. Once he knows in his head he isn't getting calls... watch how his game changes. He becomes a pu$$y and it gets to his head.... and it totally ruins his game. Keep a close eye sometime... especially on the road.

It's all written in Z-bo's face last night.

[jjgold]

He is ok

Just a good scorer

A guy like John Wall 1000x better

[BennyBigNuts]

Harden dives like a mofo but it works refs buy it. He's like a 10x better Manu Ginobili

Fixed it for you. Those guys are nothing alike other than being lefties. Manu needed pick n rolls to beat his men off the dribble. Harden doesn't need anything. He gets fouled because he's so hard to guard because of his jumper.
His shooting % may be toward the low side but it's not because he can't shoot.

[lunch]

Fixed it for you. Those guys are nothing alike other than being lefties. Manu needed pick n rolls to beat his men off the dribble. Harden doesn't need anything. He gets fouled because he's so hard to guard because of his jumper.
His shooting % may be toward the low side but it's not because he can't shoot.

Manu in his prime played the exact same way. Both are cheapshot eurostep masters, not that it's a bad thing

Houston games are real ugly this year with all the free throws, do fans really want to see Harden score 27 on 2FG?

[BennyBigNuts]

Manu in his prime played the exact same way. Both are cheapshot eurostep masters, not that it's a bad thing

Houston games are real ugly this year with all the free throws, do fans really want to see Harden score 27 on 2FG?

No way. Manu never had half the athleticism Harden has.
He got an extra step because his jumper was so wet and he had weapons all around him as well.
Harden can take it to the rack against any defender in the NBA. Manu could never do that.

[James D]

Always thought he was really really good and he has proven to be even better then that. Funny stat line though, 2fg and 22ft made is one reason I rarely bet NBA.

[GoBlue77]

wow you are really stupid. Harden is one of the top 5 finishers in the league. Guy is amazing!

rofl and you have a houston avatar. keep drinking that koolaid kid

[greenhippo]

rofl and you have a houston avatar. keep drinking that koolaid kid

Refute his claim and back up yours using numbers and stats then.

[Cheme82]

I live in Houston but I'm far from a homer, but the guy is a really good player. But the way he plays (how fast he plays, how much contact he draws, how many calls he gets, etc.) can really irritate people. Especially if you don't like Houston (they beat your team's ass, they got a player that you wanted (Howard), you're just a retard from Dallas (Opie), you're from San Antonio and fear you lost domination of the big T, etc.)

Basically he's the kind of player you love if he's in your team and hate if he's playing against you.

[Sledge187]

I think this thread is filled with LA fans that are still butt hurt over Dwight Howard leaving.

[You mad bro]

I think this thread is filled with LA fans that are still butt hurt over Dwight Howard leaving.