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    laclippers504
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    I dont understand.....

    How professional handicap services can go 2-9 or something like that on any given day. You're paid to handicap how do you go 2-9? And have multiple days of the sort.....really?

    I'm not a professional capper but I find it easy to go 50% sports betting if you do you're research.....its not rocket science. I even consider myself a fairly decent capper. But it takes time.

    90% of the time I make my own pics but I have subscribed to one handicap service in the course of my gambling life and because of lack of time I've had to cap I started to use his plays recently and honestly......it just boggles my mind how somebody who is getting paid could be so bad. I honestly would be embarrassed to call myself a professional and send out a result like that.

    Is this common? Am I being unfair or unrealistic?

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    broadway6
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    i paid touts when i first started. i learned very quickly that i rather lose with my own plays than pay for losers

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    never pay for tout

    they are scumbags with fake records

    their only goal is to steal money from suckers like you

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    even the best handicapper in the world (and i don't think these services are by a long shot) is going to have days like that....just variance man

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    Sam Odom
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    Touts are no better than flipping a coin... Variance = 2-9

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    bottom line is if they were that good at capping games they wouldnt need to sell their picks


    its basically just marketing

    and what they do is they give some one side of the game and some others the other side, so the people who win are gonna be so ecstatic that they will pay for more

    plus you'll be surprised how many idiots lose and still keep going back for mor e

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    Quote Originally Posted by SportsMushroom View Post

    and what they do is they give some one side of the game and some others the other side, so the people who win are gonna be so ecstatic that they will pay for more

    Before the internet... That ^ was the old 'East of the Mississippi -6 1/2 ; West of the Mississippi +6 1/2'
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    Not all services are terrible. Some do win. Maybe you just stumbled across a really bad one. Why and how are you betting 11 games today?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SportsMushroom View Post
    bottom line is if they were that good at capping games they wouldnt need to sell their picks


    its basically just marketing

    and what they do is they give some one side of the game and some others the other side, so the people who win are gonna be so ecstatic that they will pay for more

    plus you'll be surprised how many idiots lose and still keep going back for mor e
    I'm not sure I agree entirely, although most of what you say is accurate.

    When you say if they are that good they wouldn't need to sell their picks, what happens when bookmaker after bookmaker constantly terminate your betting account for being too successful? The next thing you turn to is selling your plays. This is mainly targeted to those professionals whose national legislation prohibits them from betting online.

    Also, some people would rather share their success with others, because it's more than money that makes them feel good. They're also after a name for themselves to give themselves pride.

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    Billy Walters could go 2-9, it's called variance.

    The problem with professional touts is most only hit 50%, you might as well flip a coin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MiddleMan View Post
    I'm not sure I agree entirely, although most of what you say is accurate.

    When you say if they are that good they wouldn't need to sell their picks, what happens when bookmaker after bookmaker constantly terminate your betting account for being too successful? The next thing you turn to is selling your plays. This is mainly targeted to those professionals whose national legislation prohibits them from betting online.

    Also, some people would rather share their success with others, because it's more than money that makes them feel good. They're also after a name for themselves to give themselves pride.

    there are numerous books and exchanges aimed at professional cappers, you could easily lay down millions on every bet, and obviously make millions

    and if you have a winning system, you dont expose your picks to the whole world, soon enough books catch on and your profitable angle is gone

    and one last thing, someone that is that good of a person and wants to share his success with others wont do it by charging them two and a half fortunes for one lousy pick that has a 50% chance of loosing, thats called taking advantage of naive and/or desperate people
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    Quote Originally Posted by SportsMushroom View Post

    there are numerous books and exchanges aimed at professional cappers, you could easily lay down millions on every bet, and obviously make millions

    Sammy thinks he would move to UK if he was really and truly a Professional Sports Bettor

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Odom View Post
    Sammy thinks he would move to UK if he was really and truly a Professional Sports Bettor

    sammy should stop being a pussy and just do it


    switch all $$$ for some pounds and hop on a double decker bus

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Odom View Post
    Before the internet... That ^ was the old 'East of the Mississippi -6 1/2 ; West of the Mississippi +6 1/2'
    The new trick is for sites to have a big stable of cappers and they can highlight the gueys who hit their last four or are 8 for their last 10 and bury the gueys who have lost six in a row. If you have 30 personalities then you're bound to have a few who have been hitting.

    Some people are desperate to give their money away

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    Simple to go 2-8 or something like that in any sport

    All it cones down to is a pure guess as far as point spread

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post

    Simple to go 2-8 or something like that in any sport

    All it cones down to is a pure guess as far as point spread

    "Lets face it these games are guesses Take the points and you will not get hurt" JJGold - March 2005

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Simple to go 2-8 or something like that in any sport

    All it cones down to is a pure guess as far as point spread
    Just as hard to go 2-8 as it is 8-2

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    No one in the top 50 finishers of BTP hit 65% of their picks, why do some think that someone else can do it? Minimum 60 picks, which is a pretty good sample size, yet most touts will tell you they hit 70%, I call bs. If I were hitting 70% I would not share my knowledge/luck with anyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SportsMushroom View Post

    sammy should stop being a pussy and just do it

    Sammy is too old... (not joking) Don't have gumption any longer

    All Sammy does now is piddle at it, gambling that is

    Hit the casino 4x a month and bet chump change on sports...

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    Quote Originally Posted by seaborneq View Post
    No one in the top 50 finishers of BTP hit 65% of their picks, why do some think that someone else can do it? Minimum 60 picks, which is a pretty good sample size, yet most touts will tell you they hit 70%, I call bs. If I were hitting 70% I would share my knowledge/luck with anyone.
    Beginning gamblers or those on the outside think that gambling is a lot easier than it really is

    If you sell picks for $50 a week and you can round up 100 people to pay you will make a tidy $250k a year which is conservative IMO.

    Millions of suckers out there.

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    About 5-6 years ago I went 16-1 one weekend...the next weekend I went 0-14

    you want to tail someone you can find a poster in the sub forum better than a tout...and they're free

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    A few years back Real Sports on HBO had a segment with a capping contest pitting Stu Feiner vs a little girl and a dog and he came in 3rd.


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    Quote Originally Posted by b1slickguy View Post
    A few years back Real Sports on HBO had a segment with a capping contest pitting Stu Feiner vs a little girl and a dog and he came in 3rd.

    Rofl.

    Idk.....like I said....I don't overthink sports betting but I do believethat it takes a little research. Its just not that hard to consistently be at 55 or 60%. And when you got a guy claiming to be the best dropping units 4 or 5 days out of the week for over a month, using examples of what he did in the past as a means to justify his horrid plays I find that to be a joke. Lesson learned though.

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    Just another problem

    Life goes on

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