[darkhat]

Everyone always has exaggerated comparisons like Lebron VS Kobe or Lebron VS Jordan. It's time for a more realistic one.

Scientists everywhere agree these guys are statistical mirrors if you compare heart in the 4th quarter of any finals game they've played in. Or are they? I believe the heat would of lost the finals even if they had Luke Walton instead of Lebron James, but would they have been better? Worse? I'm only referring to playing in the 4th quarter of the finals, since that's when Luke and Lebron are in the highest pressure games.

[UntilTheNDofTimE]

Walton would make his FT's

[darkhat]

Walton would make his FT's

[Monitor-Tan]

Luke Walton doesn't cry

[Tree Rollins]

If you had to play 1 quarter, with your life on the line, who would you rather have: Derek Fisher or Lebron James?

[darkhat]

If you had to play 1 quarter, with your life on the line, who would you rather have: Derek Fisher or Lebron James?

Fisher without thinking twice. Even if he is 57.

[ttwarrior1]

waltons getting like 11 mill sitting on the bench, walton isn't clutch anything

[Monitor-Tan]

waltons getting like 11 mill sitting on the bench, walton isn't clutch anything

Sounds like he's pretty clutch at the negotiating tables

[dlunc3]

Kobe Bryant career post season shots with 24 seconds left on the shot:

1996 Utah Jazz Game 5 Miss Bryant misses a game tying shot with 4 seconds left.
1999 San Antonio Spurs Game 2 Miss Bryant misses a game tying shot at the end of regulation
2000 Phoenix Suns Game 2 Make Bryant makes a game winning shot with 2 seconds left
2001 Philidephia 76ers Game 1 Miss Bryant misses a game winning shot with 20 seconds left.
2002 San Antonio Spurs Game 2 Miss Bryant misses a game tying shot at regulation
2002 San Antonio Spurs Game 4 Make Bryant makes a game winning shot with 5 seconds left
2002 Sacramento Kings Game 4 Miss Bryant misses a game winning shot with 4 seconds left
2002 Sacramento Kings Game 5 Miss Bryant misses a game winning shot with 8 seconds left
2002 Sacramento Kings Game 7 Miss Bryant misses a game winning tip shot with 8 seconds left
2003 Minnesota Timberwolves Game 3 Miss Bryant misses a game winning shot in OT with 13 seconds left.
2003 Minnesota Timberwolves Game 3 Miss Bryant misses a game tying shot in OT with 2 seconds left
2003 San Antonio Spurs Game 1 Miss Bryant misses a game winning shot with 13 seconds left.
2004 Houston Rockets Game 1 Miss Bryant misses a game winning shot with 17 seconds left.
2004 Houston Rockets Game 4 Miss Bryant misses a game winning shot with 3 seconds left.
2004 San Antonio Spurs Game 5 Make Bryant makes a game winning shot attempt with 12 seconds left.
2004 Detroit Pistons Game 1 Make Bryant makes a game tying shot with 2 seconds left.
2006 Phoenix Suns Game 4 Make Bryant makes a game tying shot with 4 seconds left.
2006 Phoenix Suns Game 4 Make Bryant makes a game winning shot in OT with 6 seconds left.
2006 Phoenix Suns Game 6 Miss Bryant misses a game winning shot with 6 seconds left.
2008 San Antonio Spurs Game 5 Make Bryant makes the game winning shot with 23 seconds left.
2009 Utah Jazz Game 3 Miss Bryant misses a game winning shot with 2 seconds left.
2009 Orlando Magic Game 2 Miss Bryant has his game winning shot blocked with 8 sec left.
2010 Oklahoma City Thunder Game 6 Miss Bryant misses game winning shot with .5 seconds left.
2010 Phoenix Suns Game 5 Miss Bryant misses a game winning shot with 3 seconds left.
2011 Dallas Mavericks Game 1 Miss Bryant misses a game winning shot at the end of regulation


The end result: During his 15 year career, Kobe Bryant is 7/25 or 28%:


Now lets look at Lebron James "who apparently the lakers would rather have luke walton take the shot"

2006 Washington Wizards Game 3 Make James makes a game winning shot with 5 seconds left
2006 Washington Wizards Game 5 Miss James misses a game winning shot at the end of regulation
2006 Washington Wizards Game 5 Make James makes a game winning shot with 3 seconds left in OT
2007 Detroit Pistons Game 2 Miss James misses a game winning shot with 7 seconds left
2007 Detroit Pistons Game 5 Make James makes a game tying shot with 9 seconds left
2007 Detroit Pistons Game 5 Make James makes a game winning shot with 2 seconds left
2007 San Antonio Spurs Game 3 Miss James misses a game tying 3-point shot with 1 second left
2008 Washington Wizards Game 5 Miss James misses a game winning shot at the end of regulation
2008 Boston Celtics Game 1 Miss James misses a game tying shot with 9 seconds left
2009 Orlando Magic Game 2 Make James makes a game winning shot at the end of regulation
2009 Orlando Magic Game 4 Miss James misses a game winning shot at the end of regulation
2011 Philadelphia 76ers Game 4 Miss James misses a game tying shot with 3 seconds left on the clock

the end result: During his 8 year career, Lebron James is 5/12 or 47% (or in other words, ONLY 2 LESS MAKES THEN KOBE IN 13 LESS ATTEMPTS!)


Your thread should be callled.... Lebron is more clutch in a high pressure situation with the game on the line then kobe is

[darkhat]

Kobe Bryant career post season shots with 24 seconds left on the shot:

1996 Utah Jazz Game 5 Miss Bryant misses a game tying shot with 4 seconds left.
1999 San Antonio Spurs Game 2 Miss Bryant misses a game tying shot at the end of regulation
2000 Phoenix Suns Game 2 Make Bryant makes a game winning shot with 2 seconds left
2001 Philidephia 76ers Game 1 Miss Bryant misses a game winning shot with 20 seconds left.
2002 San Antonio Spurs Game 2 Miss Bryant misses a game tying shot at regulation
2002 San Antonio Spurs Game 4 Make Bryant makes a game winning shot with 5 seconds left
2002 Sacramento Kings Game 4 Miss Bryant misses a game winning shot with 4 seconds left
2002 Sacramento Kings Game 5 Miss Bryant misses a game winning shot with 8 seconds left
2002 Sacramento Kings Game 7 Miss Bryant misses a game winning tip shot with 8 seconds left
2003 Minnesota Timberwolves Game 3 Miss Bryant misses a game winning shot in OT with 13 seconds left.
2003 Minnesota Timberwolves Game 3 Miss Bryant misses a game tying shot in OT with 2 seconds left
2003 San Antonio Spurs Game 1 Miss Bryant misses a game winning shot with 13 seconds left.
2004 Houston Rockets Game 1 Miss Bryant misses a game winning shot with 17 seconds left.
2004 Houston Rockets Game 4 Miss Bryant misses a game winning shot with 3 seconds left.
2004 San Antonio Spurs Game 5 Make Bryant makes a game winning shot attempt with 12 seconds left.
2004 Detroit Pistons Game 1 Make Bryant makes a game tying shot with 2 seconds left.
2006 Phoenix Suns Game 4 Make Bryant makes a game tying shot with 4 seconds left.
2006 Phoenix Suns Game 4 Make Bryant makes a game winning shot in OT with 6 seconds left.
2006 Phoenix Suns Game 6 Miss Bryant misses a game winning shot with 6 seconds left.
2008 San Antonio Spurs Game 5 Make Bryant makes the game winning shot with 23 seconds left.
2009 Utah Jazz Game 3 Miss Bryant misses a game winning shot with 2 seconds left.
2009 Orlando Magic Game 2 Miss Bryant has his game winning shot blocked with 8 sec left.
2010 Oklahoma City Thunder Game 6 Miss Bryant misses game winning shot with .5 seconds left.
2010 Phoenix Suns Game 5 Miss Bryant misses a game winning shot with 3 seconds left.
2011 Dallas Mavericks Game 1 Miss Bryant misses a game winning shot at the end of regulation


The end result: During his 15 year career, Kobe Bryant is 7/25 or 28%:


Now lets look at Lebron James "who apparently the lakers would rather have luke walton take the shot"

2006 Washington Wizards Game 3 Make James makes a game winning shot with 5 seconds left
2006 Washington Wizards Game 5 Miss James misses a game winning shot at the end of regulation
2006 Washington Wizards Game 5 Make James makes a game winning shot with 3 seconds left in OT
2007 Detroit Pistons Game 2 Miss James misses a game winning shot with 7 seconds left
2007 Detroit Pistons Game 5 Make James makes a game tying shot with 9 seconds left
2007 Detroit Pistons Game 5 Make James makes a game winning shot with 2 seconds left
2007 San Antonio Spurs Game 3 Miss James misses a game tying 3-point shot with 1 second left
2008 Washington Wizards Game 5 Miss James misses a game winning shot at the end of regulation
2008 Boston Celtics Game 1 Miss James misses a game tying shot with 9 seconds left
2009 Orlando Magic Game 2 Make James makes a game winning shot at the end of regulation
2009 Orlando Magic Game 4 Miss James misses a game winning shot at the end of regulation
2011 Philadelphia 76ers Game 4 Miss James misses a game tying shot with 3 seconds left on the clock

the end result: During his 8 year career, Lebron James is 5/12 or 47% (or in other words, ONLY 2 LESS MAKES THEN KOBE IN 13 LESS ATTEMPTS!)


Your thread should be callled.... Lebron is more clutch in a high pressure situation with the game on the line then kobe is

This is a bout Luke Walton and Lebron, not kobe. And it's about how they perform in the 4th quarter of the finals. Thanks for the info though. If there is ever a Kobe Vs Lebron debate in this forum, which is unlikely, we can discuss it there.

[UntilTheNDofTimE]

Dlunc how accurate is that list? Kobe made a game winner in like 03 i believe one of his top 3 game winners. Double OT buzzer beater over ruben patterson last game of season.

[dlunc3]

i dont think there is one, so i thought it would be a good place to post that... thanks

[dlunc3]

Dlunc how accurate is that list? Kobe made a game winner in like 03 i believe one of his top 3 game winners. Double OT buzzer beater over ruben patterson last game of season.

that list is postseason only, bc that is where people hate on lebron so much for some reason

[darkhat]

i dont think there is one, so i thought it would be a good place to post that... thanks

[William Walters]

Walton.....all day. No question about it. Brains. Mamma not boning teammates. Etc.

[SportsPedagogy]

that list is postseason only, bc that is where people hate on lebron so much for some reason

Is this with the game on the line or does it include games where they are up or down big ?

[edawg]

More like Lebron vs Scalabrine. BTW give me Scalabrine

[Tree Rollins]

Cool story dlunc....Michael Jordan has missed 26 game winning shots in his career, in the final seconds of a game. I only counted 25 on your list for Kobe. Does that mean Kobe is more clutch?

[jjgold]

Hard to compare..have to watch 4th qtrs as these guys do more even though they miss a lot of shots

[SportsPedagogy]

Cool story dlunc....Michael Jordan has missed 26 game winning shots in his career, in the final seconds of a game. I only counted 25 on your list for Kobe. Does that mean Kobe is more clutch?

Now the world knows that Steve Kerr carried Jordan ! lol

[onlooker]

Now we are getting ridiculous.

[SportsPedagogy]

Now we are getting ridiculous.

Say it to Jordans face ...

[onlooker]

Say it to Jordans face ...

I'm talking about the thread title, not your post. Sorry for the confusion.

[SportsPedagogy]

I'm talking about the thread title, not your post. Sorry for the confusion.

hahaha , i understand. I was bored and felt like dropping a few .gifs

[CheeseHead]

If you had to play 1 quarter, with your life on the line, who would you rather have: Derek Fisher or Lebron James?

Derek Fisher.

[onlooker]

hahaha , i understand. I was bored and felt like dropping a few .gifs

[riffraff24]

I'd rather have Kwame Brown than Lebron James

[Sam Odom]

I'll take James' Contract over Walton's

[onlooker]

I'd rather have Kwame Brown than Lebron James

[TheThreeKings]

Kobe was pretty awful tonight

[Hotdiggity11]

Lebron is good at being clutch when the game doesn't matter.

[TheThreeKings]

Lebron is good at being clutch when the game doesn't matter.

Go watch last year's Bulls and Celtics series.

[zsr]

Go watch last year's Bulls and Celtics series.

Go back and watch the finals.

Lebron statistically is not very clutch, but neither is Kobe.

[Sam Odom]

Kobe was pretty awful tonight

thank god

[tony_come]

Who's Walton?

And who's lebron?