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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommy Karate View Post
    do me a favor guys, tell me you love NO. i have a thing for home dogs and fading Brees and co on the grass; but, they actually are better on the road this season.

    Cutler on prime time = Disaster..

    should we be on the saints? better coach/qb....im starting to think we play NO medium..
    I'm a sucker for home dogs too. I just can't take the Bears, probably the worst defense in the NFL and the biggest loser playing QB for them. At same time, how can you lay 3 on the road with the Saints. If I had to choose id blind bet the over and lay the points with NO. I dunno, your guess is as good as mine.

    Im provavly going to end to end up taking Saints.

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    Any reason why books juicing saints at -3 rather than moving to 3.5?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KRIT View Post
    Any reason why books juicing saints at -3 rather than moving to 3.5?
    public %'s showing 80% on the saints....ughhh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommy Karate View Post
    do me a favor guys, tell me you love NO. i have a thing for home dogs and fading Brees and co on the grass; but, they actually are better on the road this season.

    Cutler on prime time = Disaster..

    should we be on the saints? better coach/qb....im starting to think we play NO medium..
    Why do you like Bears, I see you've even send more reasons why to back NO

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    Quote Originally Posted by RavensFan2k3 View Post
    Why do you like Bears, I see you've even send more reasons why to back NO
    i went the other way and took the saints - i just usually auto take a home dog on TV, especially when NO is road fav. 3-3 on the road this season ats though..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommy Karate View Post
    Monday 12.15

    (4u) Over Bears/Saints 53.5
    (1u) Bears +3.5
    (3u) Saints -3/-125

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommy Karate View Post
    do me a favor guys, tell me you love NO. i have a thing for home dogs and fading Brees and co on the grass; but, they actually are better on the road this season.

    Cutler on prime time = Disaster..

    should we be on the saints? better coach/qb....im starting to think we play NO medium..
    I agree. Without Marshall they lost their only reliable offensive player, which is odd but true.

    If they score, it'll go over. I'm feeling like Saints is better than the over, just don't know though

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    jeffrey is also a legit stud and lets not forget forte; their issues are on defense, O-Line and the Brain of JC

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommy Karate View Post
    jeffrey is also a legit stud and lets not forget forte; their issues are on defense, O-Line and the Brain of JC
    Don't forget the lockerroom issues between Cutler and the OC Kromer.

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    Let's gear up for week 16-17 here - big weeks historically
    Last edited by mlb; 12-16-14 at 10:32 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StackinGreen View Post
    I agree. Without Marshall they lost their only reliable offensive player, which is odd but true.

    If they score, it'll go over. I'm feeling like Saints is better than the over, just don't know though
    Only thing I ended up playing was 2H over, haha that run by Ingram did it then the Bears actually scored again!

    My malaise has been showing --- I've had a real good 3 weeks but since the bad start haven't been regular here boys. Sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommy Karate View Post
    Week 14: 11-8 (+21.4u)
    N3: 1-2
    N9: 1-0
    N10: 2-0
    N12: 0-1
    N13: 1-1
    Non-Auto: 8-7 (+15u)
    =====================
    NFL YTD: 132-122 (+23.05u)
    N1: 5-2
    N2: 2-2
    N3: 4-10
    N4: 1-1
    N5: 1-2
    N6: 2-2
    N7: 13-11
    N8: 6-9
    N9: 1-0
    N10: 6-3
    N12: 8-8
    N13: 7-5
    N14: 6-6
    Non-Auto: 87-79 (+41.2u)
    Week 15: 10-9 (+2.8u)
    N1: 2-2
    N3: 1-1
    N6: 0-1
    N12: 0-1

    N13: 1-1
    N14: 1-0
    Non-Auto: 8-6 (+7.8u)

    ======================
    NFL YTD: 142-131 (+25.85u)
    N1: 7-4
    N2: 2-2
    N3: 5-11
    N4: 1-1
    N5: 1-2
    N6: 2-3
    N7: 13-11
    N8: 6-9
    N9: 1-0
    N10: 6-3
    N12: 8-9
    N13: 8-6
    N14: 7-6
    Non-Auto: 95-85 (+49u)
    Last edited by Tommy Karate; 12-16-14 at 08:24 PM.

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    Thursday 12.18

    (6u) Jaguars -2.5/-140 (N1, N12)

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    I like the Jags too. Let's ride.

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    Really liking chargers over 49ers this Saturday

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    Quote Originally Posted by StackinGreen View Post
    I like the Jags too. Let's ride.
    can only get -3.5 ... dunno

    What about the total boys?

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    does anyone have the exact records of teams the following week after playing sea? just glancing at the last few weeks, fading these teams is money. i forgot about this angle till now; used it last season...

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    Quote Originally Posted by firekillex View Post
    Really liking chargers over 49ers this Saturday
    anything to do with SF off the Sea game?

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    Probably because the opposing team is always so beat up from seattles physical play.
    theres multiple reasons I'm with chargers on this game though. It's in san fransico which is extremely close to San Diego so I don't think there will be to much home advantage with all the chargers fans cheering on there team. Plus chargers are playing for there lives right now to make the playoffs they need to win out, 49ers could care less about the game, their season is done and it's not a divisional game to get up for. Chargers defense has been on point last few weeks and 49ers cannot score the ball.. 24-13 San Diego

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    ship it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommy Karate View Post
    does anyone have the exact records of teams the following week after playing sea? just glancing at the last few weeks, fading these teams is money. i forgot about this angle till now; used it last season...
    I did research on this angle and used scores and odds to find lines. Each teams that played Seattle the prior week, has their following week’s ATS bolded as a W or L.

    Week 1
    GB (A) played Seattle (H) week 1 and lost 36-16
    following game GB beats NYJ 31-24. Line opened at -8 closed at -7 GB
    LOST/PUSHED

    week 2
    SD (H) played Seattle (A) and won 30-12
    following game SD beat Buffalo 22-10. Line opened at +1 SD closed +3 SD
    WON

    week 3
    Denver (A) played Seattle (H) and lost 26-20 in OT
    following game Denver beat AZ 41-20. Line hovered right around -8.5 Denver
    WON

    Week 4
    Seattle BYE week

    Week 5
    Washington (H) played Seattle (A) and lost 27-17
    Following game Washington lost to AZ 30-20. Line opened Washington +3 closed +5
    LOST

    Week 6
    Dallas (A) played Seattle (H) and won 30-23
    Following game Dallas beat the NYG 31-21. Line hovered around Dallas -4.5/-5
    WON

    Week 7
    St. Louis (H) played Seattle and won 28-26
    Following week St. Louis played KC, lost 34-7. Line opened -6 KC and closed -7.5 KC
    LOST

    Week 8
    Carolina (H) played Seattle (A) and lost 13-9
    Following week Carolina played NO and lost 28-10. Line opened -1.5 NO closed around PK.
    LOST

    Week 9
    Oakland (A) played Seattle (H) and lost 30-24.
    Following week Oakland played Denver and lost 41-17. Line opened +10.5 OAK and closed around +7 OAK.
    LOST

    Week 10
    NYG (A) played Seattle (H) and lost 38-17.
    Following week NYG played SF and lost 16-10. Line opened NYG +3 closed NYG +4
    LOST

    Week 11
    KC (H) played Seattle (A) and won 24-20.
    Following week KC played at OAK and lost 24-20. Line was KC -7.
    LOST

    Week 12
    AZ (A) played Seattle (H) and lost 19-3.
    Following week AZ played at ATL and lost 29-18. Line hovered around AZ -1.5/-1.
    LOST

    Week 13
    SF (H) played Seattle (A) and lost 19-3.
    Following week SF played at OAK and lost 24-13. Line
    LOST

    Week 14
    Philly (H) played Seattle (A) and lost 24-14.
    Following week Philly played at home against Dallas at lost 38-27. Line hovered around -3 Philly.
    LOST

    Week 15
    SF (A) played Seattle (H) and lost 17-7.
    SF plays at home against SD this week.

    Teams playing Seattle are a combined 3W and 10L ATS the following week.

    If you got GB Week 1 at -7, then Teams are a combined 3W, 9L, 1T.

    Teams playing Seattle are on an 8L ATS streak currently.

    ONLY teams to win ATS following week:

    SD @ Buffalo
    DENVER home against AZ
    Dallas @ NYG

    Teams who have LOST ATS following week:

    GB @ NYG (or a push if you got -7)
    WAS @ AZ
    STL @ KC
    CAROLINA home to NO
    OAK home to Denver
    NYG home to SF
    KC @ OAK
    AZ @ ATL
    SF @ OAK
    Philly home to Dallas
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    Jack was 1 .. now we go

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    i knew it.....we missed the party; dont be silly and pound SD. i say we play it, but nothing heavy.
    as long as sea has the same core team next season, we have a new auto...

    good research ihate..thx

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommy Karate View Post
    i knew it.....we missed the party; dont be silly and pound SD. i say we play it, but nothing heavy.
    as long as sea has the same core team next season, we have a new auto...

    good research ihate..thx
    I would like Chargers more if Rivers wasn't so banged up. He is the same guy who played with a torn ACL. IMO Niners have given up. Harbough has one foot out the door.

    Do you have any read on the Skins game tomorrow? 7.5 seems like a lot, but maybe books are trying to tell us something there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KRIT View Post
    I would like Chargers more if Rivers wasn't so banged up. He is the same guy who played with a torn ACL. IMO Niners have given up. Harbough has one foot out the door.

    Do you have any read on the Skins game tomorrow? 7.5 seems like a lot, but maybe books are trying to tell us something there.
    i made my fantasy championship and im actually going to sit rivers for alex smith. hope i dont regret it.
    skins are a multi auto bet for me....i like them as well. divisional home dog always a strong lean for me...i think RG3 plays well...

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    I think Skins are the play on Sat. Might end up skipping that game to be honest. I would much rather play the SF game. SF in chambles, talks about their coach going somewhere else after season. Team cant score for their lives. SF has also played Seattle twice the last 3 weeks. If we are seriously considering backing this trend, which has proven to be a good season long trend, why would we not back SD here. SF played seattle twice in last 3 weeks and SD BEAT seattle this year AND won their next game SA and ATS. I think SD should seriously be considered. The 8 week straight trend has me worried because everything comes to an end. SD is play for me but only going medium on them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommy Karate View Post
    i made my fantasy championship and im actually going to sit rivers for alex smith. hope i dont regret it.
    skins are a multi auto bet for me....i like them as well. divisional home dog always a strong lean for me...i think RG3 plays well...
    I think that's the right move going with Smith over Rivers. I made the championship in my big money league and I have to decide between Latavius Murray, Joseph Randle, Blount, and Andre Williams. Any idea there? I'll go with Randle if Demarco sits, but sounds like he'll play for Cowboys. Leaning towards Latavius but not really sure.

    I want to take Skins but they seem like they are in a similar situation to Bears. Team has given up and QB is trash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KRIT View Post
    I think that's the right move going with Smith over Rivers. I made the championship in my big money league and I have to decide between Latavius Murray, Joseph Randle, Blount, and Andre Williams. Any idea there? I'll go with Randle if Demarco sits, but sounds like he'll play for Cowboys. Leaning towards Latavius but not really sure.

    I want to take Skins but they seem like they are in a similar situation to Bears. Team has given up and QB is trash.
    Randle
    Murray
    Williams

    If you're favored to win and want to be conservative, go Williams. If youre a heavy dog and need to gamble for a big score, Murray. But def Randle if he plays, obviously....GL Krit

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    Sat 12.20

    (2u) Chargers (NBY)
    (1u) Under SF/SD 41
    (6u) Redskins +7.5 (N1)
    (2u) Under Redskins 51 (N3)
    Last edited by Tommy Karate; 12-20-14 at 03:28 PM.

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    booked SD @ +1.5

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    Sunday 12.21

    (4u) Bucs (N9, N13); NBY
    (6u) Bears (N1, N4, N9); NBY
    (6u) Saints -6/-120 (N1)
    (6u) Jets (N1, N4, N9, N13); NBY
    (4u) Raiders +7/-120 (N6)
    (6u) Cardinals (N1, N4, N11); NBY
    (1u) Colts +3.5
    (6u) Over KC 49 (N10)
    (1u) Under Browns 41
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    booked plays; tb +12; bears +10.5/-120; jets +10.5/-120;

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    (3u) Over Colts 52.5
    (1u) Under Rams 43.5
    Last edited by Tommy Karate; 12-21-14 at 02:41 PM.

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    colts live right now a good play.....think they win it late

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