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    AZ + 4 vs WASH

    Hey guys..


    anyone playing AZ + 4 over the Skins?

    Not excited with much of the other NFL Lines...may go with Eagles again


    Week 1 Wins

    Eagles -4, Lions +1.5 Parlay
    Ravens -1
    Lions +1.5

    Week 1 Loss
    dolphins Straight up
    Dolphins +7.5
    Titans +1.5

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    i thought about it, but havent made a play yet. if anything it would be arizona but it should be close. if you like the eagles stay away from them this week... jjust my opinion

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    eagles lions shoulda been my main 2-teamer also. instead i slept on the bears and went lions, falcons big. sucked.

    redskins roll btw.
    -homer

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    i agree washington sucks

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    but i wouldn't take this bet.... i rarely ever take a road team in football. Home teams dominate the sport of football.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ice House View Post
    but i wouldn't take this bet.... i rarely ever take a road team in football. Home teams dominate the sport of football.

    i agree but i just cant see the redskins going 2-0. and ill take road dogs over road favs anytime.

    im just alittle pissed because i bet this week 2 game on week 1. getting +2.5 only to see it open this week at +4.5....now back down to +3.

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    damn... 2.5 that sucks should have boulght a half point. BTW will they let buy points at a real vegas sportsbook?


    I can see a lot of road dogs covering this weekend...

    Chargers +9
    Bengals +3.5
    Jaguars +10
    Chiefs +9

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ice House View Post
    damn... 2.5 that sucks should have boulght a half point. BTW will they let buy points at a real vegas sportsbook? I can see a lot of road dogs covering this weekend... Chargers +9 Bengals +3.5 Jaguars +10 Chiefs +9
    i cant buy points if its the following weeks game.

    eg. week 3 i am taking +3 dolphins...but i cant buy the .5 pt. can only buy points for this weekend games.

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    not a wise choice.......better plays on the board.than Wash/AZ also west coast team playing early game not usually a good thing.................Fish will be steam rolled by Houston.........more problems for the Fish matching up then against the Pats

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    I have a hard time believing Washington is a good team. I think the New York Giants must just be really really bad....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pin Fish View Post
    not a wise choice.......better plays on the board.than Wash/AZ also west coast team playing early game not usually a good thing.................Fish will be steam rolled by Houston.........more problems for the Fish matching up then against the Pats

    Redskins are terrible.... west coast to east coast is not a major factor considering rex grossman is your starting qb and your rush offense averaged less than 3 yards. prety sure redskins will win no more than 4 games all season...

    houston coudl roll over fins...but i think they bounce back...

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    you guys are really selling a solid team short, are skins world beaters? fukk no, of coarse not. But are they a middle of pack 8-8 type team if shanny doesnt lose them? more than likely, good system/coach, his kind of guys, solid defense with quality Dcord, hell even the qb everyone hates has been to a superbowl. Didnt understand you bashing wash week one taking gmen, and now that they handle a banged up NYG squad you are just writing it off as "g-men suck" , dont disagree nyg hurting but who did zona beat? Not sure what you were watching but i saw a zona d that shanny will find holes in for the run game and the playaction.

    I mean while you talking about how bad skins are you are kinda forgetting zona is nothing special, sure they have some more flash but Skins d far superior, skins run gm much better (you think cards o-line is gonna get Beanie off against those LBs? i dont).


    Maybe im way off and not thrilled with the idea of laying 4 in what could easily be a close gm as im sure Kolb and Fitz will make some plays. All im saying is from what ive read in this thread you cats judging the skins way to negatively, way i see it they are avg and not sure when the cards got elevated to anything above that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aimgator View Post
    Redskins are terrible.... west coast to east coast is not a major factor considering rex grossman is your starting qb and your rush offense averaged less than 3 yards. prety sure redskins will win no more than 4 games all season...

    houston coudl roll over fins...but i think they bounce back...

    that is beyond ridiculous....

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    The OVER 45 looks good to me on this game. Both teams are weak on defense and while not Gods on offense, both should be able to score, and the weather will be nice, no? Thoughts?

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    cardinals pass defense has major holes (gave up all those points/yards to the panthers), redskins will get some points for sure. thinking about the over/tt over or side not sure yet. also game is at 1 p.m. eastern time vs. a west coast time. eat some breakfast and get sacked. good morning.
    Last edited by face; 09-16-11 at 12:48 AM.

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    You guys are asleep on WASH. A much improved team, and If AZ gave up 400 yards to a rookie in week 1 at home, what will their defense give up on the road?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aimgator View Post
    Hey guys..


    anyone playing AZ + 4 over the Skins?

    Not excited with much of the other NFL Lines...may go with Eagles again


    Week 1 Wins

    Eagles -4, Lions +1.5 Parlay
    Ravens -1
    Lions +1.5

    Week 1 Loss
    dolphins Straight up
    Dolphins +7.5
    Titans +1.5


    YOu don't like Ravens -5.5??

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    I guess you guys didn't notice the skins buying into shanahan's system and playing well on both sides of the ball. Cardinals have a terrible o-line that will give kolb little time to throw and their defense is a joke. Betting on any team with a defense that allows a rookie running qb to throw for over 400 yards do not deserve wagers with your hard earned money. skins by 7 and this is coming from a diehard eagle fan.

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    Cam Newton in his very first NFL career game just threw +400 yards against the Cards defense...

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    Washington ML is the play for me. team is gelling under shanahan and the early game on the early coast isn't going to help an already floundering arizona team.

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    I am not saying to take Wash, but Grossman is actually a big improvement over McNabb (28 py vs SD) and of course that joke ca-ca Campbell. Skins are better than you think.
    AZ was lucky as hell to beat Carolina, that was the worst team in the NFL last yr, with a rookie QB, albeit first overall pick Newton. I think Newton will struggle in this game despite what appeared to be a fine performance.
    Also, west coast team playing early game on east coast... body clocks are f*cked up. Look at trend, west coast teams especially AZ have been awful ATS when they play 1pm EST games.
    Cardinals have lots of weaknesses, AZ "D" is terrible; Kolb is still no Johnny Unitas, so be careful IMO.
    Last edited by Serbone; 09-16-11 at 11:17 AM.

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    Again, Redskins will win at least 8 games, and I think this will be one of them. I think the final will be something like 24-20, so I have no problem with going with the Cards +4 (I have Arizona +4.5 in pick 'em contest). I wouldn't go Arizona moneyline, and I would definitely suggest that those who want to constantly talk about how bad the Redskins are cease getting their football info from Mike & Mike. This is almost an entirely new Redskins team, yet people want to use results from previous seasons to make assumptions on this campaign. You are making a mistake.

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    az can move the ball.

    az shutdown carolinas run game....yes they gave up pass yards......but i dont see grossman putting up another 300 yd game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jive View Post
    Again, Redskins will win at least 8 games, and I think this will be one of them. I think the final will be something like 24-20, so I have no problem with going with the Cards +4 (I have Arizona +4.5 in pick 'em contest). I wouldn't go Arizona moneyline, and I would definitely suggest that those who want to constantly talk about how bad the Redskins are cease getting their football info from Mike & Mike. This is almost an entirely new Redskins team, yet people want to use results from previous seasons to make assumptions on this campaign. You are making a mistake.

    washington online gave up 4 sacks..... hightower on 25 carries averaged 2.9 yds
    santana moss...and?

    grossman and beck.....insane

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    west coast teams can struggle on the east coast. especially when the west coast team is average to begin with

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    Quote Originally Posted by aimgator View Post
    az can move the ball.

    az shutdown carolinas run game....yes they gave up pass yards......but i dont see grossman putting up another 300 yd game.
    3 of his 4 starts as redskins qb under shanny he has gone over 300 yards...and he is playing by far the worst secondary out of those 4. Wouldn't bet against it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gonz312 View Post
    3 of his 4 starts as redskins qb under shanny he has gone over 300 yards...and he is playing by far the worst secondary out of those 4. Wouldn't bet against it
    good game...covered! that was close...

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    Do not doubt me. Congrats on the win

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZ*SUN*iBET4FUN View Post
    YOu don't like Ravens -5.5??
    Famous last words lol

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