1. #1
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    KHL 2016/17 (Wallco NHL GOLD System)

    Just a little test if Wallco NHL Gold System is suitable for KHL. All the rules, backtests and other stuff could be find in original thread. And of course all credits goes to Wallco.

    KHL (Wallco NHL GOLD System)
    2016-17 System to Date: 0-0 (fin. series)
    System Profit/Loss: 0 units (fin. series)
    Current Open Series: 0 (0 units)

    v1 Fades
    (A) 0-0
    (B) 0-0
    (C) 0-0
    Losses: none

    v2 Plays
    (A) 0-0
    (B) 0-0
    (C) 0-0
    Losses: none

    Games for (8/31/16):
    #1 Lokomotiv Yaroslavl (ML) v1 (A)
    #2 Metallurg Novokuznetsk (+2.5) v1 (A)
    #3 Torpedo N.Novgorod (ML) v1 (A)

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    KHL (Wallco NHL GOLD System)
    2016-17 System to Date: 2-0 (fin. series)
    System Profit/Loss: +2 units (fin. series)
    Current Open Series: 1 (-1,45 units)

    (8/31/16)
    #1 Lokomotiv Yaroslavl (ML) v1 (A) - win
    #2 Metallurg Novokuznetsk (+2.5) v1 (A) - lose
    #3 Torpedo N.Novgorod (ML) v1 (A) - win

    v1 Fades
    (A) 2-1
    (B) 0-0
    (C) 0-0
    Losses: none

    v2 Plays
    (A) 0-0
    (B) 0-0
    (C) 0-0
    Losses: none

    Games for (9/1/16):
    #4 Metallurg Magnitogorsk (ML) v2 (A)
    #5 Ak Bars Kazan (+1.5) v1 (A)

    #2 Resumes v1 (B) on 9/2/16
    Last edited by madcold; 09-01-16 at 10:05 AM.

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    GL my man. I will be following your progress!

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    Did you backtest this, or are you just winging it and hope it works? This is a whole different league, you can't use my backtests for NHL to justify this system working in Russian league. Be very, very careful.

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    I have tested your system for KHL games last season and it worked quite well but I started in January, so I don't have any stats for the whole season.
    This thread is an attempt to adapt your system for a different league and of course I don't recommend anyone to go hard on it. It's a test as I mentioned below.
    I can't be sure that thread will be profitable at the end of the season but I hope so.

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    KHL (Wallco NHL GOLD System)
    2016-17 System to Date: 2-0 (fin. series)
    System Profit/Loss: +2 units (fin. series)
    Current Open Series: 3 (-5,27 units)

    (9/1/16):
    #4 Metallurg Magnitogorsk (ML) v2 (A) - lose
    #5 Ak Bars Kazan (+1.5) v1 (A) - lose

    v1 Fades
    (A) 2-2
    (B) 0-0
    (C) 0-0
    Losses: none

    v2 Plays
    (A) 0-1
    (B) 0-0
    (C) 0-0
    Losses: none

    Games for (9/2/16):
    #2 Sibir Novosibirsk (+1.5) v1 (B)
    #6 Metallurg Novokuznetsk (+2.5) v2 (A)


    #4 Resumes v2 (B) on 9/4/16
    #5 Resumes v1 (B) on 9/4/16

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    KHL (Wallco NHL GOLD System)
    2016-17 System to Date: 3-0 (fin. series)
    System Profit/Loss: +3 units (fin. series)
    Current Open Series: 3 (-8,99 units)

    (9/2/16):
    #2 Sibir Novosibirsk (+1.5) v1 (B) - lose
    #6 Metallurg Novokuznetsk (+2.5) v2 (A) - win

    v1 Fades
    (A) 2-2
    (B) 0-1
    (C) 0-0
    Losses: none

    v2 Plays
    (A) 1-1
    (B) 0-0
    (C) 0-0
    Losses: none

    Games for (9/3/16)
    #7 Severstal Cherepovets (+1.5) v2 (A)


    #2 Resumes v1 (C) on 9/4/16
    #4 Resumes v2 (B) on 9/4/16
    #5 Resumes v1 (B) on 9/4/16

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    Good luck

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    KHL (Wallco NHL GOLD System)
    2016-17 System to Date: 4-0 (fin. series)
    System Profit/Loss: +4 units (fin. series)
    Current Open Series: 3 (-8,99 units)

    (9/3/16)
    #7 Severstal Cherepovets (+1.5) v2 (A) - win

    v1 Fades
    (A) 2-2
    (B) 0-1
    (C) 0-0
    Losses: none

    v2 Plays
    (A) 2-1
    (B) 0-0
    (C) 0-0
    Losses: none

    Games for (9/3/16)
    #2 Avangard Omsk (+1.5) v1 (C)
    #4 Metallurg Magnitogorsk (ML) v2 (B)
    #5 HC Lada (+2.5) v1 (B)

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    KHL (Wallco NHL GOLD System)
    2016-17 System to Date: 6-0 (fin. series)
    System Profit/Loss: +6 units (fin. series)
    Current Open Series: 1 (-6,86 units)

    #2 Avangard Omsk (+1.5) v1 (C) - win
    #4 Metallurg Magnitogorsk (ML) v2 (B) - win
    #5 HC Lada (+2.5) v1 (B) - lose

    v1 Fades
    (A) 2-2
    (B) 0-2
    (C) 1-0
    Losses: none

    v2 Plays
    (A) 2-1
    (B) 1-0
    (C) 0-0
    Losses: none

    Games for (9/5/16):
    no system plays

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    KHL (Wallco NHL GOLD System)
    2016-17 System to Date: 6-0 (fin. series)
    System Profit/Loss: +6 units (fin. series)
    Current Open Series: 1 (-28,2 units)

    v1 Fades
    (A) 2-2
    (B) 0-2
    (C) 1-0
    Losses: none

    v2 Plays
    (A) 2-1
    (B) 1-0
    (C) 0-0
    Losses: none

    Games for (9/6/16):
    #5 Ak Bars Kazan (+1.5) v1 (C)
    #8 Dinamo Minsk (+1.5) v1 (A)

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    Why dinamo minsk? They havent played a game yet?

    Maybe you thought dinamo riga?

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    Hi madcold, great thread. I'm also working on something based off of the JM system. Check it out here:

    http://www.sportsbookreview.com/foru...em-mlb-p2.html

    Basic Rules:

    1) Wait for winning or losing streak of 4 games

    2) Bet A: Bet against the trend (if team just loss 4, bet for a win) BUT(!!!) Always play the puckline (asian handicap) with a return of 1 unit.

    3.a.) IF Bet A wins, stop and wait for next streak of 4 games
    3.b.) IF Bet A loses, bet on the puckline wagering enough to win back Bet A plus one unit. This is Bet B!

    4.a.) IF Bet B wins, stop and wait for next streak of 4 games
    4.b.) IF Bet B loses, bet on the puckline wagering enough to win back Bet A, Bet B and plus one unit. This is Bet C!

    IF Bet C losses, STOP!

    Your average line will be somewhere between -280 and -115, bet accordingly! DO NOT bet more than 2% on your A-Bets. A C-Bet loss will clear out your bankroll!


    My backtest are showing a real, real nice hit rate...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaz22 View Post
    Why dinamo minsk? They havent played a game yet?

    Maybe you thought dinamo riga?
    It was a v1 bet, Spartak Moscow had three wins in a row

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    KHL (Wallco NHL GOLD System)
    2016-17 System to Date: 6-1 (fin. series)
    System Profit/Loss: -22,2 units (fin. series)
    Current Open Series: 1 (-3,01 units)

    (9/6/16):
    #5 Ak Bars Kazan (+1.5) v1 (C) - lose
    #8 Dinamo Minsk (+1.5) v1 (A) - lose

    v1 Fades
    (A) 2-3
    (B) 0-2
    (C) 1-1
    Losses: CSKA (-28,2 units)

    v2 Plays
    (A) 2-1
    (B) 1-0
    (C) 0-0
    Losses: none

    Games for (9/8/16)
    #8 Admiral Vladivostok (+1.5) v1 (B)
    #9 HC Lada (+1.5) v1 (A)
    #10 Amur Khabarovsk (+1.5) v2 (A)

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    Maybe you should skip CSKA games as they are far more superior than any other KHL club. They can easily get impresiive 10-12 wins in a row.
    There is no such club in NHL which would be that strong compared to other clubs.

    apart from that I think the system will work out real good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaz22 View Post
    Maybe you should skip CSKA games as they are far more superior than any other KHL club. They can easily get impresiive 10-12 wins in a row.
    There is no such club in NHL which would be that strong compared to other clubs.

    apart from that I think the system will work out real good.
    Yup, I thought about skipping SKA St.Petersburg games, they have Kovalchuk, Datsyuk and a lot of other skilled players. Maybe I should add CSKA Moscow in my stop-list too, despite of Alexander Radulov left them for Montreal Canadiens.

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    KHL (Wallco NHL GOLD System)
    2016-17 System to Date: 9-1 (fin. series)
    System Profit/Loss: -19,2 units (fin. series)
    Current Open Series: 0

    (9/8/16):
    #8 Admiral Vladivostok (+1.5) v1 (B) - win
    #9 HC Lada (+1.5) v1 (A) - win
    #10 Amur Khabarovsk (+1.5) v2 (A) - win

    v1 Fades
    (A) 3-3
    (B) 1-2
    (C) 1-1
    Losses: CSKA (-28,2 units)

    v2 Plays
    (A) 3-1
    (B) 1-0
    (C) 0-0
    Losses: none

    Games for (9/8/16):
    #11 Barys Astana (ML) v1 (A)
    #12 Barys Astana (ML) v2 (B)
    #13 SKA St.Petersburg (+1.5) v2 (A)

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    KHL (Wallco NHL GOLD System)
    2016-17 System to Date: 12-1 (fin. series)
    System Profit/Loss: -16,2 units (fin. series)
    Current Open Series: 0

    (9/9/16):
    #11 Barys Astana (ML) v1 (A) - win
    #12 Barys Astana (ML) v2 (A) - win
    #13 SKA St.Petersburg (+1.5) v1 (A) - win

    v1 Fades
    (A) 5-3
    (B) 1-2
    (C) 1-1
    Losses: CSKA (-28,2 units)

    v2 Plays
    (A) 4-1
    (B) 1-0
    (C) 0-0
    Losses: none

    Games for (9/10/16):
    #14 Dinamo Moscow (ML) v2 (A)

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    KHL (Wallco NHL GOLD System)
    2016-17 System to Date: 13-1 (fin. series)
    System Profit/Loss: -15,2 units (fin. series)
    Current Open Series: 0

    (9/10/16):
    #14 Dinamo Moscow (ML) v2 (A) - win

    v1 Fades
    (A) 5-3
    (B) 1-2
    (C) 1-1
    Losses: CSKA (-28,2 units)

    v2 Plays
    (A) 5-1
    (B) 1-0
    (C) 0-0
    Losses: none

    Games for (9/11/16):
    no system plays

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    KHL (Wallco NHL GOLD System)
    2016-17 System to Date: 13-1 (fin. series)
    System Profit/Loss: -15,2 units (fin. series)
    Current Open Series: 0

    v1 Fades
    (A) 5-3
    (B) 1-2
    (C) 1-1
    Losses: CSKA (-28,2 units)

    v2 Plays
    (A) 5-1
    (B) 1-0
    (C) 0-0
    Losses: none

    Games for (9/12/16):
    no system plays

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    KHL (Wallco NHL GOLD System)
    2016-17 System to Date: 13-1 (fin. series)
    System Profit/Loss: -15,2 units (fin. series)
    Current Open Series: 0

    v1 Fades
    (A) 5-3
    (B) 1-2
    (C) 1-1
    Losses: CSKA (-28,2 units)

    v2 Plays
    (A) 5-1
    (B) 1-0
    (C) 0-0
    Losses: none

    Games for (9/13/16):
    no system plays

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    I was unable to post today, sorry.
    Today was a winner Salavat Yulaev vs Admiral Vladivostok (v2 play)


    KHL (Wallco NHL GOLD System)
    2016-17 System to Date: 14-1 (fin. series)
    System Profit/Loss: -14,2 units (fin. series)
    Current Open Series: 0

    (9/14/16):
    #15 Salavat Yulaev (ML) v2 (A) - win

    v1 Fades
    (A) 5-3
    (B) 1-2
    (C) 1-1
    Losses: CSKA (-28,2 units)

    v2 Plays
    (A) 6-1
    (B) 1-0
    (C) 0-0
    Losses: none

    Games for (9/15/16):
    #16 Dinamo Moscow (ML) v1 (A)

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    How is Dinamo Moscow a v1 bet?

    Shouldn't you be fading a three game streak? They just won a game on the 10th after losing 3.

    From Wallco's thread:

    V1 System (3 wins in a row S/U)
    The v1 is based on teams winning streaks. The puck lines don’t matter while qualifying a team to be a play. Look for teams who have won three straight games. Once you find them, you will FADE this team (bet on their opponent) in a three game chase for the next three games.

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    He is fading Dynamo's opponent - Sochi club who is on 3-game winning streak. Maybe that should be labeled as v2 bet i dont know.

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    just checked v2 is when you have a team with at least 3 losses, so this Dynamo M pick is correct.still this is too complex for me specially with those additional rules when you cant pick a team. I mean why was Magnitagorsk not picked in previous round ? (they are now on 4-game-win-streak)

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    I was wrong not to include Metallurg Magnitogorsk vs Dinamo Minsk, it was a v1 play, I will add it to overall record for correct season stats.
    Sorry for the confusion guys and thanks for the help.


    KHL (Wallco NHL GOLD System)
    2016-17 System to Date: 15-1 (fin. series)
    System Profit/Loss: -13,2 units (fin. series)
    Current Open Series: 1 (-2,13 units)

    (9/15/16):
    #16 Dinamo Moscow (ML) v1 (A) - lose
    #17 Dinamo Minsk (+1.5) v1 (A) - win (played on Tuesday, added for correct stats)

    v1 Fades
    (A) 6-4
    (B) 1-2
    (C) 1-1
    Losses: CSKA (-28,2 units)

    v2 Plays
    (A) 6-1
    (B) 1-0
    (C) 0-0
    Losses: none

    Games for (9/16/16):
    no system plays

    #16 Resumes v1 (B) on 9/17/16

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    KHL (Wallco NHL GOLD System)
    2016-17 System to Date: 15-1 (fin. series)
    System Profit/Loss: -13,2 units (fin. series)
    Current Open Series: 1 (-2,13 units)

    v1 Fades
    (A) 6-4
    (B) 1-2
    (C) 1-1
    Losses: CSKA (-28,2 units)

    v2 Plays
    (A) 6-1
    (B) 1-0
    (C) 0-0
    Losses: none

    Games for (9/17/16):
    #16 HC Vityaz (+1.5) v1 (B)
    #18 Dinamo Riga (+1.5) v1 (A)

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    Good Luck to you, madcold. I posted about CSKA and SKA in Wallco's thread, but it has been mentioned in this thread also. Glad to see we agree on this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smoothieopath View Post
    Good Luck to you, madcold. I posted about CSKA and SKA in Wallco's thread, but it has been mentioned in this thread also. Glad to see we agree on this.
    I completely agree. It might make the most sense to a) only bet on teams which are not ranked within the top two or bottom to of their league and also chase a four or five game streak.

    I'm looking to use this exact system on the Premier League and Bundes League with the very similar rules. This system is built best for the NHL, NBA and possible the WNBA. Just my two cents.

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    KHL (Wallco NHL GOLD System)
    2016-17 System to Date: 17-1 (fin. series)
    System Profit/Loss: -11,2 units (fin. series)
    Current Open Series: 0

    (9/17/16):
    #16 HC Vityaz (+1.5) v1 (B) - win
    #18 Dinamo Riga (+1.5) v1 (A) - win

    v1 Fades
    (A) 7-4
    (B) 2-2
    (C) 1-1
    Losses: CSKA (-28,2 units)

    v2 Plays
    (A) 6-1
    (B) 1-0
    (C) 0-0
    Losses: none

    Games for (9/18/16):
    #19 Kunlun Red Star (ML) v2 (A)

    HC Yugra vs CSKA also qualified for v1 play but I will skip it. Let's call it the first additional rule of this thread.
    CSKA on the great winning streak (9 games) and it probably makes sense not to fade them.

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    KHL (Wallco NHL GOLD System)
    2016-17 System to Date: 18-1 (fin. series)
    System Profit/Loss: -10,2 units (fin. series)
    Current Open Series: 0

    (9/18/16):
    #19 Kunlun Red Star (ML) v2 (A) - win

    v1 Fades
    (A) 7-4
    (B) 2-2
    (C) 1-1
    Losses: CSKA (-28,2 units)

    v2 Plays
    (A) 7-1
    (B) 1-0
    (C) 0-0
    Losses: none

    Games for (9/19/16):
    no system plays

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    KHL (Wallco NHL GOLD System)
    2016-17 System to Date: 18-1 (fin. series)
    System Profit/Loss: -10,2 units (fin. series)
    Current Open Series: 0

    v1 Fades
    (A) 7-4
    (B) 2-2
    (C) 1-1
    Losses: CSKA (-28,2 units)

    v2 Plays
    (A) 7-1
    (B) 1-0
    (C) 0-0
    Losses: none

    Games for (9/20/16):
    #20 Lokomotiv Yaroslavl (ML) v2 (A)

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    KHL (Wallco NHL GOLD System)
    2016-17 System to Date: 19-1 (fin. series)
    System Profit/Loss: -9,2 units (fin. series)
    Current Open Series: 0

    (9/20/16)
    #20 Lokomotiv Yaroslavl (ML) v2 (A) - win

    v1 Fades
    (A) 7-4
    (B) 2-2
    (C) 1-1
    Losses: CSKA (-28,2 units)

    v2 Plays
    (A) 8-1
    (B) 1-0
    (C) 0-0
    Losses: none

    Games for (9/21/16):
    no system plays

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    KHL (Wallco NHL GOLD System)
    2016-17 System to Date: 19-1 (fin. series)
    System Profit/Loss: -9,2 units (fin. series)
    Current Open Series: 0

    v1 Fades
    (A) 7-4
    (B) 2-2
    (C) 1-1
    Losses: CSKA (-28,2 units)

    v2 Plays
    (A) 8-1
    (B) 1-0
    (C) 0-0
    Losses: none

    Games for (9/22/16):
    #21 Neftekhimik Nizhnekamsk (ML) v1 (A)

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