1. 07-20-13 08:12 AM #1
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    Tampa vs Toronto 7/20

    looking over this game and I just can't see how Tampa at -110 isn't a robert today.... Hellicksons on the mound, Tampa went into the allstar break scoring tons of runs.. Came out and scored 8 last night. This isn't an analysis... Just asking everyone's thoughts
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  2. 07-20-13 08:19 AM #2
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    im on tb too
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  3. 07-20-13 09:22 AM #3
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    Seems to easy to be true.. Will probably be a midday snoozer
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  4. 07-20-13 09:28 AM #4
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    A robert?
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  5. 07-20-13 09:29 AM #5
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    i want to pound Hellickson and the Rays sooooo bad today!

    but then again i wanted to pound Angels and Weaver last night... my luck if I bet it Hellickson will lose somehow....


    But damn this looks too easy , and the Rays fukkin hammer Left handers
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  6. 07-20-13 10:10 AM #6
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    best looking line on the card for sure.
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  7. 07-20-13 10:13 AM #7
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    Its a trap. Hellickson is a fly ball pitcher vs. a free swinging jay team playing with an open roof today. Jays or pass.
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  8. 07-20-13 10:17 AM #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by ronniejamedio View Post
    Its a trap. Hellickson is a fly ball pitcher vs. a free swinging jay team playing with an open roof today. Jays or pass.
    Bhurle has been blasted of late. This is one of those game where the unexpected happens


    probably jays and the under
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  9. 07-20-13 10:17 AM #9
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    Quote Originally Posted by ronniejamedio View Post
    Its a trap. Hellickson is a fly ball pitcher vs. a free swinging jay team playing with an open roof today. Jays or pass.
    Yep. Rays are a total trap.
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  10. 07-20-13 10:20 AM #10
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    Yea just saw jays moved to a slight fav. Sharp money is on jays. 1unit play for me.
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  11. 07-20-13 10:20 AM #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by ronniejamedio View Post
    Its a trap. Hellickson is a fly ball pitcher vs. a free swinging jay team playing with an open roof today. Jays or pass.
    The Rays are 19-10 when facing Left handed starting pitchers. I trust Hellickson more at home than on the road ofcourse but is he really a fly ball pitcher????

    Everytime i see him pitch i see a bunch of weak ground balls.
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  12. 07-20-13 10:29 AM #12
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    Yea he is viewed as a fly ball pitcher. Trust me when I say that the rays wouldnt be -103 if they didnt want you to take em. Lines that way for a reason. Game goes either way though.
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  13. 07-20-13 10:33 AM #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Bear View Post
    The Rays are 19-10 when facing Left handed starting pitchers. I trust Hellickson more at home than on the road ofcourse but is he really a fly ball pitcher????

    Everytime i see him pitch i see a bunch of weak ground balls.
    Loney's out
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  14. 07-20-13 10:34 AM #14
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    I'm on the under.
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  15. 07-20-13 10:36 AM #15
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    A heavy hitter play today is the rockies. Getting tons of handicapping action.
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  16. 07-20-13 10:55 AM #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by ronniejamedio View Post
    Yea he is viewed as a fly ball pitcher. Trust me when I say that the rays wouldnt be -103 if they didnt want you to take em. Lines that way for a reason. Game goes either way though.
    you are right about that... but i don't think baseball is fixed... But you are right , this is not the best spot in the world to take Hellickson...

    I'd rather have Hellickson at home facing a public favorite and good pitcher like lets say

    Hellickson at home at +110 against Yankees and CC Sabbathia....

    Or Hellickson at home -105 against Red Sox and Jon Lester
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  17. 07-20-13 11:13 AM #17
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    Definitely. Its all about picking the right spots. Not saying baseball is fixed, but if books were in love with rays like the public is, he would be -120 - -135
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  18. 07-20-13 11:37 AM #18
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    Im taking Tb today, when something is seemingly too easy, thats only cuz it adds up, at least il feel better if it doesnt hit, small play anyways. Line is good also.
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  19. 07-20-13 11:49 AM #19
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    hellickson has owned the jays this season started 3 games against them so far is 1-0 and should alteast be 2-0, the bully came in and blew up a game for him. jays are batting 164 against him this year. youre getting a hot tbay team v a sliding jays team. im on tbay
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  20. 07-20-13 11:50 AM #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by maxim79 View Post
    hellickson has owned the jays this season started 3 games against them so far is 1-0 and should alteast be 2-0, the bully came in and blew up a game for him. jays are batting 164 against him this year. youre getting a hot tbay team v a sliding jays team. im on tbay
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  21. 07-20-13 11:55 AM #21
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    a pick-em ALMOST always = a win for the road team in all sports rays or nuttin
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  22. 07-20-13 12:04 PM #22
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    Using the Rays (-101) as 1st pick in a three team open parlay. Let's get it!
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  23. 07-20-13 12:08 PM #23
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    everything points to rays but the line. GL
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  24. 07-20-13 12:22 PM #24
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    Ticket#:2139164
    Jul 20 01:07 PM
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    MLB


    STRAIGHT BET
    [916] TORONT -110
    ( J HELLICKSON -R / M BUEHRLE -L )


    880.00 / 800.00
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  25. 07-20-13 12:55 PM #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Bear View Post
    i want to pound Hellickson and the Rays sooooo bad today!

    but then again i wanted to pound Angels and Weaver last night... my luck if I bet it Hellickson will lose somehow....


    But damn this looks too easy , and the Rays fukkin hammer Left handers
    Big Bear is fukkin sharp.
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  26. 07-20-13 01:09 PM #26
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    didnt know games were decided in 2 1/2 innings. Thanks for the heads up.
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  27. 07-20-13 01:12 PM #27
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    I should have taken tampa bay...dam bad start for the day
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    Standard Sbr clown
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  29. 07-20-13 01:18 PM #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by ronniejamedio View Post
    didnt know games were decided in 2 1/2 innings. Thanks for the heads up.
    Give Hellickson a 4 run lead and the game is over pal. Guy doesnt surrender leads ever.


    Yall just listen to me and i'm gonna get yall paid.

    I am so fukkin pissed at my self right now for not taking angels last night and not taking Rays today. I was going to bet 1,000 on both but see i have 2,000 in my account and over the all-star break i got the idea to save the 2,000 until football....

    It's just that betting makes me feel like i'm going to have a heart attack sometimes and it stresses me out.. when i bet i can't enjoy any other activities... it completely gives me tunnel vision...

    and besides that i'm at work right now and i hate betting on games that i can only follow on the computer and can't watch on tv.

    But since Angels and Rays were both such easy winners now its fukking with me mentally ... it makes me feel like i just passed up on a free 2,000... just dangling on a string for me and i didn't reach out to grab it.

    and now the fukkin law of averages makes me think next time i do bet its going to be a loser. This Shit has me all fukked up in the head.


    But i can pick winners so i'm gonna keep pointing them out for yall when i see them... even though i can't bring my self to bet now.
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  30. 07-20-13 01:44 PM #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Bear View Post
    Give Hellickson a 4 run lead and the game is over pal. Guy doesnt surrender leads ever.


    Yall just listen to me and i'm gonna get yall paid.

    I am so fukkin pissed at my self right now for not taking angels last night and not taking Rays today. I was going to bet 1,000 on both but see i have 2,000 in my account and over the all-star break i got the idea to save the 2,000 until football....

    It's just that betting makes me feel like i'm going to have a heart attack sometimes and it stresses me out.. when i bet i can't enjoy any other activities... it completely gives me tunnel vision...

    and besides that i'm at work right now and i hate betting on games that i can only follow on the computer and can't watch on tv.

    But since Angels and Rays were both such easy winners now its fukking with me mentally ... it makes me feel like i just passed up on a free 2,000... just dangling on a string for me and i didn't reach out to grab it.

    and now the fukkin law of averages makes me think next time i do bet its going to be a loser. This Shit has me all fukked up in the head.


    But i can pick winners so i'm gonna keep pointing them out for yall when i see them... even though i can't bring my self to bet now.
    Yeah everyone wanted to put big money on teams that already played or are in play and have a big lead
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    Hellboy pitch count getting high.
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    Quote Originally Posted by You mad bro View Post
    Yeah everyone wanted to put big money on teams that already played or are in play and have a big lead
    honestly if i have a lean and i don't make the bet i prefer for it to lose. That way i don't feel like i missed an opportunity.

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  33. 07-20-13 01:58 PM #33
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    Rays looking pretty damn good. That was a great move they made sending Shields to Kansas City for Wil Myers... he's looking like he's going to be a super star.
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    WTH Hellickson lifted after 6 IP 92 pitches... ??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Down_Goes Bookie View Post
    WTH Hellickson lifted after 6 IP 92 pitches... ??
    thats normal. Young kid, gotta protect his arm. Very typical day for him. Hes very consistent but he rarely goes past a 100 pitches.
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