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  • Jeff_Black
    SBR MVP
    • 04-04-15
    • 3571

    #141
    Australian Open 2000, Mens Singles, R16
    Roberto Bautista Agut vs Milos Raonic
    Handicap: Roberto Bautista Agut +5.5 @ 1.952 on Pinnacle
    Stake: $138.54 for a profit of $131.90

    Australian Open 2000, Mens Singles, R16
    Dominic Thiem vs David Goffin
    Handicap: David Goffin -1.5 @ 1.934 on Pinnacle
    Stake: $138.54 for a profit of $129.40
    Comment
    • Jeff_Black
      SBR MVP
      • 04-04-15
      • 3571

      #142
      Originally posted by pabonaparte
      Excellent work so far, Jeff_Black!
      Thanks, just gotta keep on grinding
      Comment
      • Conqueror
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 12-08-13
        • 16778

        #143
        Originally posted by Jeff_Black
        Thanks, just gotta keep on grinding
        Great work!
        Comment
        • Elton Jack
          SBR High Roller
          • 01-02-17
          • 107

          #144
          wrong thread
          Comment
          • Elton Jack
            SBR High Roller
            • 01-02-17
            • 107

            #145
            Comment
            • Jeff_Black
              SBR MVP
              • 04-04-15
              • 3571

              #146
              Australian Open 2000, Men's Singles, R16
              Gael Monfils vs Rafael Nadal
              Total Score: Over 38.5 Games @ 1.91 on William Hill
              Stake: $138.54 for a profit of $126.07

              Pinnacle have these lines too just taking the better odds with WH compared to Pinnacle. Not as confident in 39.5 but will take the small odds hit for my own safety. If it goes over comfortably then oh well 😁
              Confident it'll go over and be four sets at least though
              Comment
              • Enjoi
                SBR Sharp
                • 02-12-13
                • 328

                #147
                Great stuff Jeff. Appreciate the selections, mate. Keep it up!
                Comment
                • Don_Omarion
                  SBR MVP
                  • 10-23-15
                  • 2635

                  #148
                  way to go, pal
                  Comment
                  • Jeff_Black
                    SBR MVP
                    • 04-04-15
                    • 3571

                    #149
                    Handicap: Roberto Bautista Agut +5.5 @ 1.952 on Pinnacle (+$131.90)
                    Handicap: David Goffin -1.5 @ 1.934 on Pinnacle ($129.40)
                    Total Games: Over 38.5 @ 1.91 on William Hill (-$138.54)

                    YTD: 54-44-6 (
                    +$936.83)
                    Bankroll:
                    $2893.78
                    Comment
                    • Jeff_Black
                      SBR MVP
                      • 04-04-15
                      • 3571

                      #150
                      Australian Open 2000, Men's Singles, QF
                      Stan Wawrinka vs Jo Wilfried Tsonga
                      Moneyline: Jo Wilfried Tsonga @ 2.27 on Pinnacle
                      Stake: $144.69 for a profit of $183.76
                      Comment
                      • Jeff_Black
                        SBR MVP
                        • 04-04-15
                        • 3571

                        #151
                        Australian Open 2000, Men's singles, QF
                        Roger Federer vs Mischa Zverev
                        Total Score: Over 32.5 games @ 1.934 on Pinnacle
                        Stake: $144.69 for a profit of $135.14
                        Comment
                        • lucasdawg
                          SBR MVP
                          • 02-19-13
                          • 3399

                          #152
                          hows your input for tomorrow???

                          dimitrov v goffin

                          konta v williams
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                          • Jeff_Black
                            SBR MVP
                            • 04-04-15
                            • 3571

                            #153
                            Moneyline: Jo Wilfried Tsonga @ 2.27 on Pinnacle (-$144.69)
                            Total Score: Over 32.5 games @ 1.934 on Pinnacle (-$144.69)


                            YTD: 54-46-6 (
                            +$647.49)
                            Bankroll:
                            $2604.40
                            Comment
                            • Jeff_Black
                              SBR MVP
                              • 04-04-15
                              • 3571

                              #154
                              Australian Open 2000, Men's Singles, QF
                              Grigor Dimitrov vs David Goffin
                              Handicap: Grigor Dimitrov -3.5 @ 1.98 on Pinnacle
                              Stake: $130.22 for a profit of $127.62
                              Comment
                              • Jeff_Black
                                SBR MVP
                                • 04-04-15
                                • 3571

                                #155
                                Originally posted by lucasdawg
                                hows your input for tomorrow???

                                dimitrov v goffin

                                konta v williams
                                no women's from me, been a bizzare enough Aussie open for me as it is haha, would have loved Konta at better odds but +150 isn't enticing enough imo
                                Comment
                                • miczz14
                                  SBR High Roller
                                  • 01-22-13
                                  • 146

                                  #156
                                  dimitrov -3.5 means he should win all 4 quarters?
                                  Comment
                                  • Jeff_Black
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 04-04-15
                                    • 3571

                                    #157
                                    Nah he can win in however many sets he wants (and in some rare cases lose) as long as the difference in games won is higher then that handicap number I posted.
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                                    • hedgejob
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 12-21-09
                                      • 2561

                                      #158
                                      Dimi in beast mode right now, good hit.
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                                      • Jeff_Black
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 04-04-15
                                        • 3571

                                        #159
                                        Handicap: Grigor Dimitrov -3.5 @ 1.98 on Pinnacle (+$127.62)

                                        YTD: 55-46-6 (
                                        +$775.11)
                                        Bankroll:
                                        $2732.02
                                        Comment
                                        • Jeff_Black
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 04-04-15
                                          • 3571

                                          #160
                                          Originally posted by hedgejob
                                          Dimi in beast mode right now, good hit.
                                          Thanks. I can't fault Dimitrov much so far apart from that first set against Chung.
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                                          • gorwin068
                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                            • 05-16-16
                                            • 920

                                            #161
                                            Originally posted by Jeff_Black
                                            Handicap: Grigor Dimitrov -3.5 @ 1.98 on Pinnacle (+$127.62)

                                            YTD: 55-46-6 (
                                            +$775.11)
                                            Bankroll:
                                            $2732.02
                                            Good call bro, any thought on Nadal vs Ranoic match?
                                            I am leaning on Nadal...
                                            Comment
                                            • Jeff_Black
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 04-04-15
                                              • 3571

                                              #162
                                              Just popped in to post that exact thing 😁

                                              Australian Open 2000, Men's Singles, QF
                                              Rafael Nadal vs Milos Raonic
                                              Handicap: Rafael Nadal -1.5 @ 1.917 on Pinnacle
                                              Stake: $136.60 for a profit of $125.26
                                              Comment
                                              • Jeff_Black
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 04-04-15
                                                • 3571

                                                #163
                                                Another one where I was preferring Raonic but I think the old dog will get one more win against the young pup. Been happy enough with Nadals form and the roof won't be closed this time around which will benefit Nadal in the cool conditions
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                                                • gorwin068
                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                  • 05-16-16
                                                  • 920

                                                  #164
                                                  Originally posted by Jeff_Black
                                                  Another one where I was preferring Raonic but I think the old dog will get one more win against the young pup. Been happy enough with Nadals form and the roof won't be closed this time around which will benefit Nadal in the cool conditions
                                                  Jeff, would you be able to explain more about cool conditions with/without roof? As well as faster or slower court with/without the roof? And Indoor or outdoor?

                                                  I heard this kind of thing before too, but i am not sure about the relationship between them. What kind of players would prefer which ones?

                                                  I would know some kind of players are more favourable on certain court surface, but I am not really sure about the importance of having the roof or not, fast/slow court, indoor/outdoor
                                                  Thanks
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                                                  • gorwin068
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 05-16-16
                                                    • 920

                                                    #165
                                                    Originally posted by Jeff_Black
                                                    Just popped in to post that exact thing 

                                                    Australian Open 2000, Men's Singles, QF
                                                    Rafael Nadal vs Milos Raonic
                                                    Handicap: Rafael Nadal -1.5 @ 1.917 on Pinnacle
                                                    Stake: $136.60 for a profit of $125.26
                                                    Game Set Match, Nadal won 3-0, job done.
                                                    The last two points were ridiculous, proving Rafa is back !!!
                                                    Comment
                                                    • Jeff_Black
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 04-04-15
                                                      • 3571

                                                      #166
                                                      Originally posted by gorwin068
                                                      Jeff, would you be able to explain more about cool conditions with/without roof? As well as faster or slower court with/without the roof? And Indoor or outdoor?

                                                      I heard this kind of thing before too, but i am not sure about the relationship between them. What kind of players would prefer which ones?

                                                      I would know some kind of players are more favourable on certain court surface, but I am not really sure about the importance of having the roof or not, fast/slow court, indoor/outdoor
                                                      Thanks
                                                      Certainly!

                                                      The roof aspect of things is quite simple. An indoor surface or effectively an outdoor surface with a closed roof basically nullifies any outdoor aspects such as wind, weather, air density, the sun (heat) and sometimes until it is deemed too dangerous, rain.
                                                      The indoor conditions allow for faster play in a tennis court which favour the players with aggressive games who like to finish off games quickly.
                                                      For example the game the other day between Raonic and Bautista (like most Spaniard players who don't mind hitting the ball around and rallying) with an open roof and allowing for conditions allow him to dictate play and hang at the baseline to construct points. When the points end quicker, they favour Raonic who likes to come in to the net and volley and hit his forehand winners. Thus most people who watched the game noted that it changed in Raonic's favour when the roof closed, to a lesser extent similarly in the Wimbledon final to Federer's extent.


                                                      I think in some cases it comes down to players being able to take advantage of the conditions. For example when Murray and Djokovic play their Australian open finals in the cooler weather when it is slower it favours Djokovic. It's a crazy thing to say because both players have similar games but alternatively Djokovic basically has Murray on a string like he is a puppet because he is allowed to do whatever he wants being able to construct his points whereas Murray is happy to wait for Djokovic to make errors or have a lapse in concentration.
                                                      When Djokovic shrinks the court in those finals Murray is basically a dead man because Djokovic knows where he is going to hit it or he can force Murray to hit a bad shot from it.
                                                      If it is faster such as Wimbledon is favours Murray because Djokovic has less time firstly react to both Murray's first and second serves and secondly construct points and do whatever he wants in rallies because the points are shorter and on grass Murray is able to work the angles like he did in the 2013 final to force an error.
                                                      Or the us open final where it was windy AF, and you simply can't make the same shots you do on a non windy day because it will result in more errors.
                                                      IMO Murray shouldn't let slower conditions be an advantage to or allow Djokovic to dictate play but because he plays like such a retard in those instances it's why he's lost five finals against him there.


                                                      In opposite an outdoor court allows all the weather conditions to affect the play.

                                                      In some cases the wind at times affects the ball toss which can make it difficult for rhythm. Think to the 2012 US open where there was some ridiculous wind and from what I've seen to an extent the design of Arthur Ashe Stadium as more open compared to say Rod Laver Area or the Centre Court of Wimbledon which allows for more weather factors because of its 'openness' compared to RLA or Wimbledons centre court which are more closed and easier to build a roof on which they have now.



                                                      Rain will normally not affect the court long term that much because the umpires will suspend play and catch on pretty quickly, sometimes you get the odd point where a player loses their footing because of the moisture on the ground causing some sliding but usually safety precautions take place.
                                                      On clay though it can be a bit different because a bit rain as we've seen in the past won't affect play. The umpire will allow play because it's not hardcourts and players slide, Unless it is heavy enough to deem dangerous and stop play.


                                                      Think the French Open.
                                                      Think Nadal and Djokovic's 2012 French open final when rain affected the outcome of the match and Djokovic was able to get back into it. And I'll explain why...


                                                      Nadal plays a game which basically states straight up "I am better than anyone at hitting balls into positions where you can't attack me without taking huge risks, and I can do it longer than anyone". Watch the angle that his balls bounce as they cross the baseline. He gets them jumping up near vertical. So a normal player (on clay) has to take huge risks because they know they can't compete with his game. Players that don't have an alternate game (Ferrer) just get chopped. So for Nadal this will work against, effectively, nearly everyone bar Novak.


                                                      When the rain came in on that day during the game, Novak completely changed his shot selection (helped a little by the conditions) to the sort of game he plays on hard court. Effectively he's trying to open the court up on nearly every shot even if it means being exposed
                                                      The reason why it's so effective is because the ball is bouncing lower now so when Nadal tries to take advantage and 'rip' the ball away the spin just doesn't have the same effect. So Novak feels safer hitting the ball to open up the court because he knows he can't be hurt.
                                                      With a bit of momentum Novak was able to hit the ball better. But that's not the big reason there is a difference. He's getting his body behind the ball so that he can use the ground reactive force in his legs to get the extra power. And he knows he can do it because Nadal can't take him out of court as much, so he's willing to do the extra running


                                                      Djokovic usually wants to take those risks because it opens the court up and he's fast enough to get to Nadal's response. On a dry clay court though Djokovic's flat attacking balls get held up and then the spin from Nadal just puts the ball way too far out of court for it to be a winning strategy (most of the time).
                                                      As the court gets wet, Djokovic's flat attacking shots still get held up, but Nadal's response isn't as devastating because a wet ball doesn't bounce the same. So now Djokovic is willing to take the risk because he knows he can get back across the court and in doing so he's opened up the whole court for both players which is where he is significantly better than Nadal.
                                                      And Nadal knows it too. You could see how pissed off he is. It's exactly the same as the Wimbledon final the year before. And it's why the media made a big deal about him wanting to suspend play. Effectively Novak uses aggressive movement, aggressive shot selection. And he's got enough speed and endurance to do it for long periods of time. Nadal knows and he hates it heh.
                                                      Now let's look at the last factor, air conditions (humidity/density)
                                                      And again I will quote an example where this happens, the us open 2013 final...
                                                      The temperature cooled to below 20C over the next couple of hours, before the match started which suited Nadal much more. Relative humidity got close to 80%, this slowed the balls down and made it harder for Novak to hit winners.
                                                      High relative humidity greatly affects ball speed, which played against Novak more. Nadal got a lot of balls back in this match, due to the ball 'hang time'.
                                                      As a result, due to the high relative humidity slowing the ball down, Novak just couldn't hit enough winners through the thicker air which forced a lot of UEs.
                                                      Obviously it's impossible to put the pieces with every player, because each player is different with their styles on play, it's why, for example, some players suck on clay and others don't regardless of the conditions. The best way to get a gauge of it is watching, watching and more watching of game tape!
                                                      There are sites out there that explain the formulas behind the reasoning but this is more of a brief and unnecessarily poorly explained shortened version covering the very basics ��
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                                                      • gorwin068
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 05-16-16
                                                        • 920

                                                        #167
                                                        Originally posted by Jeff_Black


                                                        Certainly!

                                                        The roof aspect of things is quite simple. An indoor surface or effectively an outdoor surface with a closed roof basically nullifies any outdoor aspects such as wind, weather, air density, the sun (heat) and sometimes until it is deemed too dangerous, rain.
                                                        The indoor conditions allow for faster play in a tennis court which favour the players with aggressive games who like to finish off games quickly.
                                                        For example the game the other day between Raonic and Bautista (like most Spaniard players who don't mind hitting the ball around and rallying) with an open roof and allowing for conditions allow him to dictate play and hang at the baseline to construct points. When the points end quicker, they favour Raonic who likes to come in to the net and volley and hit his forehand winners. Thus most people who watched the game noted that it changed in Raonic's favour when the roof closed, to a lesser extent similarly in the Wimbledon final to Federer's extent.


                                                        I think in some cases it comes down to players being able to take advantage of the conditions. For example when Murray and Djokovic play their Australian open finals in the cooler weather when it is slower it favours Djokovic. It's a crazy thing to say because both players have similar games but alternatively Djokovic basically has Murray on a string like he is a puppet because he is allowed to do whatever he wants being able to construct his points whereas Murray is happy to wait for Djokovic to make errors or have a lapse in concentration.
                                                        When Djokovic shrinks the court in those finals Murray is basically a dead man because Djokovic knows where he is going to hit it or he can force Murray to hit a bad shot from it.
                                                        If it is faster such as Wimbledon is favours Murray because Djokovic has less time firstly react to both Murray's first and second serves and secondly construct points and do whatever he wants in rallies because the points are shorter and on grass Murray is able to work the angles like he did in the 2013 final to force an error.
                                                        Or the us open final where it was windy AF, and you simply can't make the same shots you do on a non windy day because it will result in more errors.
                                                        IMO Murray shouldn't let slower conditions be an advantage to or allow Djokovic to dictate play but because he plays like such a retard in those instances it's why he's lost five finals against him there.


                                                        In opposite an outdoor court allows all the weather conditions to affect the play.

                                                        In some cases the wind at times affects the ball toss which can make it difficult for rhythm. Think to the 2012 US open where there was some ridiculous wind and from what I've seen to an extent the design of Arthur Ashe Stadium as more open compared to say Rod Laver Area or the Centre Court of Wimbledon which allows for more weather factors because of its 'openness' compared to RLA or Wimbledons centre court which are more closed and easier to build a roof on which they have now.



                                                        Rain will normally not affect the court long term that much because the umpires will suspend play and catch on pretty quickly, sometimes you get the odd point where a player loses their footing because of the moisture on the ground causing some sliding but usually safety precautions take place.
                                                        On clay though it can be a bit different because a bit rain as we've seen in the past won't affect play. The umpire will allow play because it's not hardcourts and players slide, Unless it is heavy enough to deem dangerous and stop play.


                                                        Think the French Open.
                                                        Think Nadal and Djokovic's 2012 French open final when rain affected the outcome of the match and Djokovic was able to get back into it. And I'll explain why...


                                                        Nadal plays a game which basically states straight up "I am better than anyone at hitting balls into positions where you can't attack me without taking huge risks, and I can do it longer than anyone". Watch the angle that his balls bounce as they cross the baseline. He gets them jumping up near vertical. So a normal player (on clay) has to take huge risks because they know they can't compete with his game. Players that don't have an alternate game (Ferrer) just get chopped. So for Nadal this will work against, effectively, nearly everyone bar Novak.


                                                        When the rain came in on that day during the game, Novak completely changed his shot selection (helped a little by the conditions) to the sort of game he plays on hard court. Effectively he's trying to open the court up on nearly every shot even if it means being exposed
                                                        The reason why it's so effective is because the ball is bouncing lower now so when Nadal tries to take advantage and 'rip' the ball away the spin just doesn't have the same effect. So Novak feels safer hitting the ball to open up the court because he knows he can't be hurt.
                                                        With a bit of momentum Novak was able to hit the ball better. But that's not the big reason there is a difference. He's getting his body behind the ball so that he can use the ground reactive force in his legs to get the extra power. And he knows he can do it because Nadal can't take him out of court as much, so he's willing to do the extra running


                                                        Djokovic usually wants to take those risks because it opens the court up and he's fast enough to get to Nadal's response. On a dry clay court though Djokovic's flat attacking balls get held up and then the spin from Nadal just puts the ball way too far out of court for it to be a winning strategy (most of the time).
                                                        As the court gets wet, Djokovic's flat attacking shots still get held up, but Nadal's response isn't as devastating because a wet ball doesn't bounce the same. So now Djokovic is willing to take the risk because he knows he can get back across the court and in doing so he's opened up the whole court for both players which is where he is significantly better than Nadal.
                                                        And Nadal knows it too. You could see how pissed off he is. It's exactly the same as the Wimbledon final the year before. And it's why the media made a big deal about him wanting to suspend play. Effectively Novak uses aggressive movement, aggressive shot selection. And he's got enough speed and endurance to do it for long periods of time. Nadal knows and he hates it heh.
                                                        Now let's look at the last factor, air conditions (humidity/density)
                                                        And again I will quote an example where this happens, the us open 2013 final...
                                                        The temperature cooled to below 20C over the next couple of hours, before the match started which suited Nadal much more. Relative humidity got close to 80%, this slowed the balls down and made it harder for Novak to hit winners.
                                                        High relative humidity greatly affects ball speed, which played against Novak more. Nadal got a lot of balls back in this match, due to the ball 'hang time'.
                                                        As a result, due to the high relative humidity slowing the ball down, Novak just couldn't hit enough winners through the thicker air which forced a lot of UEs.
                                                        Obviously it's impossible to put the pieces with every player, because each player is different with their styles on play, it's why, for example, some players suck on clay and others don't regardless of the conditions. The best way to get a gauge of it is watching, watching and more watching of game tape!
                                                        There are sites out there that explain the formulas behind the reasoning but this is more of a brief and unnecessarily poorly explained shortened version covering the very basics ��
                                                        Thank you so so much for the detailed information.
                                                        I will definitely save it.
                                                        Comment
                                                        • Lightning
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 05-15-16
                                                          • 647

                                                          #168
                                                          'Unncessarily poor explanation'

                                                          I know tennis and even I got a kick out of reading that haha.
                                                          Comment
                                                          • laker5
                                                            SBR Hustler
                                                            • 07-23-15
                                                            • 73

                                                            #169
                                                            Originally posted by Lightning
                                                            'Unncessarily poor explanation'

                                                            I know tennis and even I got a kick out of reading that haha.
                                                            Douche much?
                                                            Comment
                                                            • Jeff_Black
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 04-04-15
                                                              • 3571

                                                              #170
                                                              Originally posted by Lightning
                                                              'Unncessarily poor explanation'

                                                              I know tennis and even I got a kick out of reading that haha.
                                                              Mainly because it was so brief and by the time I realised how long it was and how little I covered I thought to myself 'ah bugger' haha

                                                              As I posted originally there is a lot of maths explaining the 'physics' part that I could devote another whole post to but that was long enough haha.

                                                              Like most people watching the games and learning a thing or two off others, know several people who used to coach tennis who used to explain certain things to me when I was younger and still to this day the finer technical aspects so I definately don't know it all haha. And still want to keep learning as much as I can otherwise I'll never improve.
                                                              Comment
                                                              • Jeff_Black
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 04-04-15
                                                                • 3571

                                                                #171
                                                                Handicap: Rafael Nadal -1.5 @ 1.917 on Pinnacle (+$125.26)

                                                                YTD: 56-46-6 (
                                                                +$900.37)
                                                                Bankroll:
                                                                $2857.28

                                                                Australian Open 2000, Men's Singles, SF
                                                                Roger Federer vs Stan Wawrinka
                                                                Handicap: Roger Federer -3.5 @ 1.925 on Pinnacle
                                                                Stake: $142.86 for a profit of $132.45
                                                                Comment
                                                                • gorwin068
                                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                                  • 05-16-16
                                                                  • 920

                                                                  #172
                                                                  Originally posted by Jeff_Black
                                                                  Handicap: Rafael Nadal -1.5 @ 1.917 on Pinnacle (+$125.26)

                                                                  YTD: 56-46-6 (
                                                                  +$900.37)
                                                                  Bankroll:
                                                                  $2857.28

                                                                  Australian Open 2000, Men's Singles, SF
                                                                  Roger Federer vs Stan Wawrinka
                                                                  Handicap: Roger Federer -3.5 @ 1.925 on Pinnacle
                                                                  Stake: $142.86 for a profit of $132.45
                                                                  Roger
                                                                  Comment
                                                                  • gorwin068
                                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                                    • 05-16-16
                                                                    • 920

                                                                    #173
                                                                    Originally posted by Jeff_Black
                                                                    Handicap: Rafael Nadal -1.5 @ 1.917 on Pinnacle (+$125.26)

                                                                    YTD: 56-46-6 (
                                                                    +$900.37)
                                                                    Bankroll:
                                                                    $2857.28

                                                                    Australian Open 2000, Men's Singles, SF
                                                                    Roger Federer vs Stan Wawrinka
                                                                    Handicap: Roger Federer -3.5 @ 1.925 on Pinnacle
                                                                    Stake: $142.86 for a profit of $132.45
                                                                    Unlucky man, although Roger did win the match in 5 sets.
                                                                    I just went for ML directly instead.
                                                                    Comment
                                                                    • laker5
                                                                      SBR Hustler
                                                                      • 07-23-15
                                                                      • 73

                                                                      #174
                                                                      Originally posted by Lightning
                                                                      'Unncessarily poor explanation'

                                                                      I know tennis and even I got a kick out of reading that haha.
                                                                      My bad, apologies Lightning
                                                                      Comment
                                                                      • Jeff_Black
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 04-04-15
                                                                        • 3571

                                                                        #175
                                                                        Handicap: Roger Federer -3.5 @ 1.925 on Pinnacle (-$142.86)

                                                                        YTD: 56-47-6 (
                                                                        +$757.51)
                                                                        Bankroll:
                                                                        $2714.42

                                                                        Australian Open 2000, Men's Singles, SF
                                                                        Grigor Dimitrov vs Rafael Nadal
                                                                        Handicap: Grigor Dimitrov +4.5 @ 1.833 on Pinnacle
                                                                        Stake: $135.72 for a profit of $113.06
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