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  • relaaxx
    SBR MVP
    • 06-15-06
    • 3281

    #561
    hareeba -- why waste your time answering these 2 idiots. they have no clue. whatever you say they make some assumption , then ask you to proof what you never really said. they think they can read between the lines, but they never read the words correctly first.
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    • Hareeba!
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      • 07-01-06
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      #562
      Originally posted by relaaxx
      hareeba -- why waste your time answering these 2 idiots. they have no clue. whatever you say they make some assumption , then ask you to proof what you never really said. they think they can read between the lines, but they never read the words correctly first.
      You're probably right mate but it's not in me to just let misinformation or utter falsehoods attributed to me to stand unchallenged.
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      • QQPALLADIUM
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        • 01-22-10
        • 367

        #563
        do you have any o/n offers out there?...

        biggest game tommorrow...

        nyy bos +146/-163 $90 and $130...not misinfo...not falsehood...just the facts...
        sbr
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        • Hareeba!
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          • 07-01-06
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          #564
          Originally posted by QQPALLADIUM
          do you have any o/n offers out there?...

          biggest game tommorrow...

          nyy bos +146/-163 $90 and $130...not misinfo...not falsehood...just the facts...
          utterly clueless!
          obviously never used an exchange or you'd know there's never liquidity the day before

          this argument is about BF v MB ... will you ever get that through your thick skull .. now tell me what's available at BF

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          • relaaxx
            SBR MVP
            • 06-15-06
            • 3281

            #565
            Originally posted by Hareeba!
            You're probably right mate but it's not in me to just let misinformation or utter falsehoods attributed to me to stand unchallenged.
            i do know what you mean. i think if you try it you may like it. life is just easier without dealing with people like them. here in the forum as well as in daily life. they will never come close to comprehending what you are saying. they read the words but will never understand the literal meaning of the words.
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            • Hareeba!
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              • 07-01-06
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              #566
              Originally posted by relaaxx
              i do know what you mean. i think if you try it you may like it. life is just easier without dealing with people like them. here in the forum as well as in daily life. they will never come close to comprehending what you are saying. they read the words but will never understand the literal meaning of the words.
              maybe .. perhaps I've just been fortunate to have lived my life amongst more intelligent and certainly far more courteous people than some I've encountered on this forum which seems to attract a very disproportionate number of people who seem to believe that everyone is a cheat, a criminal and a liar .. I'm left to wonder if that is because they think everyone is like them .. hmmm
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              • todd73nj
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 08-09-08
                • 824

                #567
                Originally posted by relaaxx

                i do know what you mean. i think if you try it you may like it. life is just easier without dealing with people like them. here in the forum as well as in daily life. they will never come close to comprehending what you are saying. they read the words but will never understand the literal meaning of the words.
                If you went to a gay bar - what would you expect to find? 99% non-heterosexual people, maybe the other 1% made up of curious ones or someone stopping for a drink.

                You come to a gambling forum, and what do you find? 99% big winners who certainly cant back their boasts. And need to resort to turning the conversation so they dont have to.

                Head over to Covers, or any other forum. Amazing how many winners there are.
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                • Hareeba!
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                  #568
                  Originally posted by todd73nj
                  If you went to a gay bar - what would you expect to find? 99% non-heterosexual people, maybe the other 1% made up of curious ones or someone stopping for a drink.

                  You come to a gambling forum, and what do you find? 99% big winners who certainly cant back their boasts. And need to resort to turning the conversation so they dont have to.

                  Head over to Covers, or any other forum. Amazing how many winners there are.
                  Utterly fascinating but totally irrelevant to the argument we've been having.
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                  • relaaxx
                    SBR MVP
                    • 06-15-06
                    • 3281

                    #569
                    Originally posted by todd73nj
                    If you went to a gay bar - what would you expect to find? 99% non-heterosexual people, maybe the other 1% made up of curious ones or someone stopping for a drink.

                    You come to a gambling forum, and what do you find? 99% big winners who certainly cant back their boasts. And need to resort to turning the conversation so they dont have to.

                    Head over to Covers, or any other forum. Amazing how many winners there are.
                    hareeba - this is what i mean. just nonsense from an ass. why bother.
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                    • Hareeba!
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                      • 07-01-06
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                      #570
                      Originally posted by relaaxx
                      hareeba - this is what i mean. just nonsense from an ass. why bother.
                      yes, but in some perverse way I think he believes he may have scored a point over us with that post so I wasn't going to let him believe it
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                      • QQPALLADIUM
                        SBR Sharp
                        • 01-22-10
                        • 367

                        #571
                        Originally posted by Hareeba!
                        utterly clueless!
                        obviously never used an exchange or you'd know there's never liquidity the day before

                        this argument is about BF v MB ... will you ever get that through your thick skull .. now tell me what's available at BF

                        good morning...today is not the day before...it is the day of...

                        +158 / -162 $127/$324 vs $1784/$1082 at betfair
                        sbr
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                        • todd73nj
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 08-09-08
                          • 824

                          #572
                          Just showing the type that hangs out here.

                          You guys claim to make so much money - if you are such great players.. show us all.

                          If you cant.. why bother talking about making thousands?
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                          • Hareeba!
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                            • 07-01-06
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                            #573
                            Originally posted by todd73nj
                            Just showing the type that hangs out here.

                            You guys claim to make so much money - if you are such great players.. show us all.

                            If you cant.. why bother talking about making thousands?
                            Seems to me you are ably demonstrating the type who hangs out here.

                            Deliberately evading questions, making false accusations and changing the subject.

                            Who has claimed to be making "so much money"?
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                            • QQPALLADIUM
                              SBR Sharp
                              • 01-22-10
                              • 367

                              #574
                              how are the odds and liquidity on ncaaf at MB?
                              sbr
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                              • Hareeba!
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                                • 07-01-06
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                                #575
                                Originally posted by QQPALLADIUM
                                how are the odds and liquidity on ncaaf at MB?
                                no idea, of no interest to me
                                all i've been arguing about is US pro-sports
                                how are they at BF?
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                                • QQPALLADIUM
                                  SBR Sharp
                                  • 01-22-10
                                  • 367

                                  #576
                                  that just shows you don't gamble...
                                  sbr
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                                  • Cookie Monster
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 12-05-08
                                    • 2251

                                    #577
                                    17 pages and counting of deaf shouting.

                                    QQPALLADIUM, Matchbook is what is. An out where you can find SOMETIMES a great price. Liquidity is limited? Yes. Making an offer has some risks? Yes. Minor sports have negligible liquidity? Yes.

                                    But in US pro sports often you find the best prices there. So it would be stupid dismiss Matchbook because it is different. Instead, use the difference in your favor.
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                                    • Hareeba!
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                                      • 07-01-06
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                                      #578
                                      Originally posted by QQPALLADIUM
                                      that just shows you don't gamble...
                                      you're right I don't "gamble"
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                                      • relaaxx
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 06-15-06
                                        • 3281

                                        #579
                                        Originally posted by Hareeba!
                                        maybe .. perhaps I've just been fortunate to have lived my life amongst more intelligent and certainly far more courteous people than some I've encountered on this forum which seems to attract a very disproportionate number of people who seem to believe that everyone is a cheat, a criminal and a liar .. I'm left to wonder if that is because they think everyone is like them .. hmmm
                                        agree again - me too

                                        Originally posted by Hareeba!
                                        you're right I don't "gamble"
                                        neither will understand -
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                                        • todd73nj
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 08-09-08
                                          • 824

                                          #580
                                          Originally posted by Hareeba!

                                          Seems to me you are ably demonstrating the type who hangs out here.

                                          Deliberately evading questions, making false accusations and changing the subject.

                                          Who has claimed to be making "so much money"?
                                          Originally posted by relaaxx

                                          agree again - me too



                                          neither will understand -
                                          Hareeba,

                                          Even you should be able to understand this:

                                          If a guy claims to have made his living off of gambling for 10 years, but is still living off the money he made went Netteller was available in the USA. And he is not an live game player, not a scalper/arbitage player, not a middles player (didnt even understand them), and if he isnt an arber that means he isnt a bonus hunter - then what does that make him??

                                          Only one thing left? He bets games.

                                          If you are living for that long off your winnnings - you must be 70-80%.

                                          So if thats your game - how did Netteller change the landscape for you? It shouldnt have changed it at all. Because you would be a winner, correct? No need to move money to make money.

                                          But this same player, who hasnt worked in 10 years, cries when his bets take 2 hours to grade. But claims he wasnt close to all in.

                                          Dont you see quite a few discrepancies there?

                                          If you are 70% consistently over time, prove it. Ill be the first one to label you are star.

                                          But to come onto a gambling forum and claim to be so rich from gambling that you dont have to work - think about how pathetic that is. If you have to tout yourself, you are nothing.
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                                          • Hareeba!
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                                            • 07-01-06
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                                            #581
                                            Originally posted by todd73nj
                                            Hareeba,

                                            Even you should be able to understand this:

                                            If a guy claims to have made his living off of gambling for 10 years, but is still living off the money he made went Netteller was available in the USA. And he is not an live game player, not a scalper/arbitage player, not a middles player (didnt even understand them), and if he isnt an arber that means he isnt a bonus hunter - then what does that make him??

                                            Only one thing left? He bets games.

                                            If you are living for that long off your winnnings - you must be 70-80%.

                                            So if thats your game - how did Netteller change the landscape for you? It shouldnt have changed it at all. Because you would be a winner, correct? No need to move money to make money.

                                            But this same player, who hasnt worked in 10 years, cries when his bets take 2 hours to grade. But claims he wasnt close to all in.

                                            Dont you see quite a few discrepancies there?

                                            If you are 70% consistently over time, prove it. Ill be the first one to label you are star.

                                            But to come onto a gambling forum and claim to be so rich from gambling that you dont have to work - think about how pathetic that is. If you have to tout yourself, you are nothing.
                                            Why you addressing this diatribe to me?
                                            Got absolutely zich to do with what I've been arguing with you about. I've never made any such statements.
                                            So you've finally had to concede my point. Good.
                                            You should read the new thread on Matchbook liquidity to get further confirmation that they beat Betfair on US sports.
                                            Amen.
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                                            • relaaxx
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 06-15-06
                                              • 3281

                                              #582
                                              And he is not an live game player, not a scalper/arbitage player, not a middles player (didnt even understand them), and if he isnt an arber that means he isnt a bonus hunter - then what does that make him??

                                              todd if the staement is suppose to be about me, show me where i told you anything about 'how' i made money with offshore sportsbooks. you assumed everything. know nothing. and why are you still asking hereeba about anyone else. the reason is you are still just an ass.
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                                              • todd73nj
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 08-09-08
                                                • 824

                                                #583
                                                Originally posted by relaaxx
                                                And he is not an live game player, not a scalper/arbitage player, not a middles player (didnt even understand them), and if he isnt an arber that means he isnt a bonus hunter - then what does that make him??

                                                todd if the staement is suppose to be about me, show me where i told you anything about 'how' i made money with offshore sportsbooks. you assumed everything. know nothing. and why are you still asking hereeba about anyone else. the reason is you are still just an ass.
                                                When I discussed middles and arbs, you couldnt even understand how they worked.

                                                Anyone who claims to have lived for 10 years off gambling is a fraud. And thats ANYONE on this website.
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                                                • todd73nj
                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                  • 08-09-08
                                                  • 824

                                                  #584
                                                  Originally posted by Hareeba!

                                                  Why you addressing this diatribe to me?
                                                  Got absolutely zich to do with what I've been arguing with you about. I've never made any such statements.
                                                  So you've finally had to concede my point. Good.
                                                  You should read the new thread on Matchbook liquidity to get further confirmation that they beat Betfair on US sports.
                                                  Amen.
                                                  When you learn to post data that can be verified - let me know.
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                                                  • Hareeba!
                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                    • 07-01-06
                                                    • 37279

                                                    #585
                                                    Originally posted by todd73nj
                                                    When you learn to post data that can be verified - let me know.
                                                    When you start behaving like a normal mature human who responds to fair questions, doesn't make regular false accusations and doesn't believe everyone is a liar let me know.
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                                                    • relaaxx
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 06-15-06
                                                      • 3281

                                                      #586
                                                      Originally posted by todd73nj
                                                      When I discussed middles and arbs, you couldnt even understand how they worked.



                                                      Anyone who claims to have lived for 10 years off gambling is a fraud. And thats ANYONE on this website.
                                                      i never answered your questions - so you assume that i don't understand what your taklking about. this is how your brain works. you read the words and then change the meaning to satisfy your thinking. you know nothing about me or how i did anything because i never told you anything. can't you at least figure that out.

                                                      this is a post from slash in the thread on largest balances.

                                                      Used to have 6 digits at Mansion and Pinnacle. Those days are waaayyy over now

                                                      and that's the way it was for all of us back then. you don't have to tell people that were playing back then how you did it. there were many ways, easy enough that everyone used without really gambling. you know nothng about anything, you are just too young to have been there and too naive to understand. and really would rather just accuse people of stuff you made up in that pea brain of yours. you are an ass and it was obvious with your 1st posts on matchbook vs. betmaker. just an ass.
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                                                      • QQPALLADIUM
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                                                        • 01-22-10
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                                                        #587
                                                        todd,

                                                        i have a question...if someone had over 200k at 2 books and let's say they were arbing...and made 1/2% per day...that would be 1k a day or about 400k a year...i think if that happened and i was an adult not living in my parents basement i would be out partying not posting drivel all day and night and get paid minimum wage by an illiquid exchange?
                                                        sbr
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                                                        • todd73nj
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 08-09-08
                                                          • 824

                                                          #588
                                                          Originally posted by relaaxx

                                                          i never answered your questions - so you assume that i don't understand what your taklking about. this is how your brain works. you read the words and then change the meaning to satisfy your thinking. you know nothing about me or how i did anything because i never told you anything. can't you at least figure that out.

                                                          this is a post from slash in the thread on largest balances.

                                                          Used to have 6 digits at Mansion and Pinnacle. Those days are waaayyy over now

                                                          and that's the way it was for all of us back then. you don't have to tell people that were playing back then how you did it. there were many ways, easy enough that everyone used without really gambling. you know nothng about anything, you are just too young to have been there and too naive to understand. and really would rather just accuse people of stuff you made up in that pea brain of yours. you are an ass and it was obvious with your 1st posts on matchbook vs. betmaker. just an ass.
                                                          You should consider what yo post then.

                                                          You complain about one book not grading a "NASCAR" play fast enough because you need money to make another bet. Wouldnt you have the money in the other account that won if you were an arb player? You could make the bet there. And if you were a good gambler you certainly wouldnt be on something as random as a matchup in nascar.

                                                          And now you say you were playing dumb about arbs and middles?

                                                          And you still provide nothing - where is this proof that you are Mr Big? You linked me to a SBR review of Mansion. Dont see anyone anwhere talking about YOU. You need to do all the touting of yourself, yourself.

                                                          And reading that review of a borderline B/C book - not sure Id want a 6 figure balance there lol

                                                          If you had $10 for each time you called me an "ass" you wouldnt have to pretend to be a big time player anymore. But I guess you have to be mature and old enough to use words like that, and "pea brain"
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                                                          • todd73nj
                                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                                            • 08-09-08
                                                            • 824

                                                            #589
                                                            Originally posted by QQPALLADIUM
                                                            todd,

                                                            i have a question...if someone had over 200k at 2 books and let's say they were arbing...and made 1/2% per day...that would be 1k a day or about 400k a year...i think if that happened and i was an adult not living in my parents basement i would be out partying not posting drivel all day and night and get paid minimum wage by an illiquid exchange?
                                                            200k at 2 books - So 200k at each book? Or is that 200k divided between two books?

                                                            Not that it matters, because..

                                                            1st of all, the person wont find those kind of limits to bet anywhere near 200k on a game. Not even all this "back in the day" dribble would get $200k down on a game. Maybe $5k or $10 at a good book.

                                                            2nd, If you are talking about an arb of 1% (yielding a .5% win on either side) - that means if the line moves 1 tiny tick - the arb is GONE. The max you will get down on an arb is 5k before a line move.

                                                            3rd There is no way to move that kind of money. Even in the days of Netteller. If you were putting down 100k or 200k on each side and lost. You just blew out an account. Need to move money. How do you get it back to your account at home when you want it.

                                                            4th If you had $400k disposable income just sitting around to put in a RISKY off shore situation like a C book like the superstars talk about. Id venture to say your net-worth would have to be at least a few million - would you really be risking 10 or 20% of your networth gambling? If you had 1/100 of a brain, you could find an incredible investment to yield you safe interest income to live off of.

                                                            5th There is NO WAY you could be an arber with just two books. Youd probably need 8 to 10 books all very well funded.

                                                            6th Yes, why would someone need to be in a forum, touting themselves and their gambling skills with no proof at all as to wether they make a penny.


                                                            So back to the original question.. Assuming you have $100,000 in about 8 books. Assuming you could get 10k down per side, per 1% arb. Which is very generous btw.. You could make $50 per arb chance.

                                                            $50 per arb chance, probably 1 or 2 per day where you could get down volume. With somewhere between 500,000 and 1,000,000 at risk off shore.

                                                            I have an entire website dedicated to arbitrage and in game trading. You cant get rich on this. Can you make a few bucks to get some free bets.. sure! Can you live off your winnings for 10 years.. no.
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                                                            • todd73nj
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                                                              • 08-09-08
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                                                              #590
                                                              Originally posted by Hareeba!

                                                              When you start behaving like a normal mature human who responds to fair questions, doesn't make regular false accusations and doesn't believe everyone is a liar let me know.
                                                              From your original post - ever to me - you still have not provided data. Never a screen shot, link... anything.
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                                                              • austin
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                                                                #591
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                                                                • Hareeba!
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                                                                  • 07-01-06
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                                                                  #592
                                                                  Originally posted by todd73nj
                                                                  From your original post - ever to me - you still have not provided data. Never a screen shot, link... anything.

                                                                  Only someone with a severe personality disorder who thinks everyone is a liar would need further proof. Several other players have backed me up. That is good enough for most people.
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                                                                  • QQPALLADIUM
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                                                                    • 01-22-10
                                                                    • 367

                                                                    #593
                                                                    Originally posted by Hareeba!
                                                                    Only someone with a severe personality disorder who thinks everyone is a liar would need further proof. Several other players have backed me up. That is good enough for most people.

                                                                    todd...

                                                                    yet another poster did a screenshot of his mb balance of over 40k...crazy to keep that kind of $$$ there but at least he proved it...i am also a nigerian prince...i have other nigerian princes who will back me up for proof
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                                                                    • relaaxx
                                                                      SBR MVP
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                                                                      #594
                                                                      Originally posted by todd73nj
                                                                      You should consider what yo post then.

                                                                      You complain about one book not grading a "NASCAR" play fast enough because you need money to make another bet. Wouldnt you have the money in the other account that won if you were an arb player? You could make the bet there. And if you were a good gambler you certainly wouldnt be on something as random as a matchup in nascar.

                                                                      And now you say you were playing dumb about arbs and middles?

                                                                      And you still provide nothing - where is this proof that you are Mr Big? You linked me to a SBR review of Mansion. Dont see anyone anwhere talking about YOU. You need to do all the touting of yourself, yourself.

                                                                      And reading that review of a borderline B/C book - not sure Id want a 6 figure balance there lol

                                                                      If you had $10 for each time you called me an "ass" you wouldnt have to pretend to be a big time player anymore. But I guess you have to be mature and old enough to use words like that, and "pea brain"
                                                                      you never get anything right. i did not bet nascar-i was not waiting for a bet to be graded to have funds for another bet. you just make things up as you go. not answering an idiot is not playing dumb, wasting time talking to a fool is dumb. you just can't read. you only make shit up. never said i was a big time gambler or mr. big. it use to be easy to make lots of money. and i am old enough to have been around long enough to have done just that and to know how to read and comprehend words, unlike you. you have not got 1 thing right about me in any of your posts. you just keep making stuff up. -------how did you like the college fb lines at betmaker so far. they sucked. terrible money lines and worse spreads and totals. but i guess you made plenty of bets on totals and cleaned up. and they still have no live betting. there are plenty of people who made tons of money when online gambling started , you just don't get how easy it was. and i am not going to waste my time explaining it to you because you are ------------an ass. 1 more thing. i don't work. have plenty of time. so wasting a little time coming here to post is not a waste of my time to me.
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                                                                      • QQPALLADIUM
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                                                                        • 01-22-10
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                                                                        #595
                                                                        Originally posted by relaaxx
                                                                        you never get anything right. i did not bet nascar-i was not waiting for a bet to be graded to have funds for another bet. you just make things up as you go. not answering an idiot is not playing dumb, wasting time talking to a fool is dumb. you just can't read. you only make shit up. never said i was a big time gambler or mr. big. it use to be easy to make lots of money. and i am old enough to have been around long enough to have done just that and to know how to read and comprehend words, unlike you. you have not got 1 thing right about me in any of your posts. you just keep making stuff up. -------how did you like the college fb lines at betmaker so far. they sucked. terrible money lines and worse spreads and totals. but i guess you made plenty of bets on totals and cleaned up. and they still have no live betting. there are plenty of people who made tons of money when online gambling started , you just don't get how easy it was. and i am not going to waste my time explaining it to you because you are ------------an ass. 1 more thing. i don't work. have plenty of time. so wasting a little time coming here to post is not a waste of my time to me.

                                                                        i guess posting 24/7 is not a waste of your time...
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