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  • jaimediazm
    SBR Hustler
    • 02-07-10
    • 66

    #1
    Omg!!!!!answers please. A+ sportsbook involved!! $12.000
    Hello, I would really need some answers to a problem I have encountered with an A+ book , I wont say the name yet until it is resolved, which I dont know how it will.....Here is a copy of the email I sent to them after speaking to them. Please let me hace your opinions, they are greately appreciated.Thanks,

    Hello,

    This email is for David,I know he is not in today but I send it now in order for him to have it tomorrow. This is regarding a BIG problem regarding a pick 4 in Calder Race Course. Please refer to ticket:Racing ticket #8514587(my wager)
    The ticket was: Jun-24 CRC R1 1.00 USD PK4 1,4,7/1,2/3,4,8/1,2,5
    The results of that pick 4 were:
    $1 Pick 4 4-1-4-3/5/7/11 (3 correct) 136.90
    It shows that there were no winning tickets, therefore it only paid for 3 out of 4....the only problem is that That I DO HAVE all 4 correct, and I would be the only ticket.
    The Pool for that pick 4 was Pick 4 Pool: $22,908, therefore that should have been the amount I should receive. Please take care of this issue as soon as possible .
  • acarmelo1
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 09-29-09
    • 6321

    #2
    The Greek?
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    • wtf
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 08-22-08
      • 12983

      #3
      ouch, so they booked the wager and did not go into the pools
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      • Extra Innings
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 02-26-10
        • 15058

        #4
        Name the book...who gives a shit?

        If their an A+ book....it's a mistake. No harm No foul.
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        • whatsgood5
          Restricted User
          • 10-13-09
          • 15359

          #5
          I would like to make a post here on the first page of this thread, because a lot of times threads like these end up being like 20 pages and 600 responses, so I think it would be very cool to have my post being one of the first two or three. That is all.
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          • Extra Innings
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 02-26-10
            • 15058

            #6
            Originally posted by Extra Innings
            Name the book...who gives a shit?

            If their an A+ book....it's a mistake. No harm No foul.
            They're (no edit function)
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            • mvp123
              SBR MVP
              • 07-24-06
              • 1736

              #7
              Wow thats bulls hit dude id be pissed
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              • DrStale
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 12-07-08
                • 9692

                #8
                Originally posted by whatsgood5
                I would like to make a post here on the first page of this thread, because a lot of times threads like these end up being like 20 pages and 600 responses, so I think it would be very cool to have my post being one of the first two or three. That is all.
                You fell to #5.
                Originally posted by Dark Horse
                If with religion you mean belief system, your belief system is your religion. Again, it matters not what it is. You believe in it, you are loyal to it, would defend it, and yet have no proof of it, other than that, at one point or another, you chose to believe in it. Self-hypnosis. What if there were a snapping of fingers that broke the hypnosis?
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                • acarmelo1
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 09-29-09
                  • 6321

                  #9
                  Was it Pinacle?
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                  • mtneer1212
                    SBR MVP
                    • 06-22-08
                    • 4993

                    #10
                    Read their rules on pick 3, pick 4 and pick 6s and make sure that you are entitled to the whole pool.
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                    • jaimediazm
                      SBR Hustler
                      • 02-07-10
                      • 66

                      #11
                      It is Bookmaker, trully there is nothing bad in saying it. The horse manager was out until tomorrow. Anybody think of any possible outcomes?Thanks
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                      • whatsgood5
                        Restricted User
                        • 10-13-09
                        • 15359

                        #12
                        Originally posted by DrStale
                        You fell to #5.
                        Yeah man, I'm pissed. It's almost not even worth it once you get that low
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                        • Extra Innings
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 02-26-10
                          • 15058

                          #13
                          Originally posted by jaimediazm
                          It is Bookmaker, trully there is nothing bad in saying it. The horse manager was out until tomorrow. Anybody think of any possible outcomes?Thanks
                          A lot of these fukkers seem to know a lot horses and pools. I don't know shit soo I'll keep my mouth shut. Good Luck my Friend.
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                          • jjgold
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 07-20-05
                            • 388179

                            #14
                            Most books have caps on horse payouts

                            No clue what is going on here
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                            • acarmelo1
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 09-29-09
                              • 6321

                              #15
                              what is a horse? lol I know more astro physics than Racebook action
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                              • Justin7
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 07-31-06
                                • 8577

                                #16
                                Rule #1 of dispute resolution: If you think the book misgraded a wager or made an obvious mistake, contact them first before screaming on the forums.
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                                • DrStale
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 12-07-08
                                  • 9692

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Justin7
                                  Rule #1 of dispute resolution: If you think the book misgraded a wager or made an obvious mistake, contact them first before screaming on the forums.
                                  Well, he did contact them first and he didn't scream and bitch on the forums. Although I would have certainly waited for a reply from the books before taking it to the forums.
                                  Originally posted by Dark Horse
                                  If with religion you mean belief system, your belief system is your religion. Again, it matters not what it is. You believe in it, you are loyal to it, would defend it, and yet have no proof of it, other than that, at one point or another, you chose to believe in it. Self-hypnosis. What if there were a snapping of fingers that broke the hypnosis?
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                                  • Extra Innings
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 02-26-10
                                    • 15058

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Justin7
                                    Rule #1 of dispute resolution: If you think the book misgraded a wager or made an obvious mistake, contact them first before screaming on the forums.
                                    True however it's baseball season and very slow on the forums. . . it was a heat of the moment type post

                                    Bookmaker's image will not be affected is they made a mistake. Something tells me this guy ain't getting his 12000. Their image will not be affected.
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                                    • jaimediazm
                                      SBR Hustler
                                      • 02-07-10
                                      • 66

                                      #19
                                      I have my full confidence in Bookmaker, I jst wanted to know if this was something that happens normally or not and how it is resolved. As of today I only have good words for Bookmaker, I just feel worried about the outcome.
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                                      • Extra Innings
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 02-26-10
                                        • 15058

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by jaimediazm
                                        I have my full confidence in Bookmaker, I jst wanted to know if this was something that happens normally or not and how it is resolved. As of today I only have good words for Bookmaker, I just feel worried about the outcome.
                                        12g's is a lot of doe....


                                        ...sleep tight
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                                        • Chi_archie
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 07-22-08
                                          • 63169

                                          #21
                                          hope it works out for ya man
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                                          • ProfaneReality
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 04-14-09
                                            • 7607

                                            #22
                                            this is simple... bets at offshore books for the most part dont get put into the track pool...therefore, in the tracks eyes, your ticket does not exist.

                                            bookmaker and every one else pays TRACK odds... not their own odds....

                                            you got very unlucky that you hit this at an offshore sportsbook and not a racing site......but there is no way they will...or SHOULD pay you the pool amount.
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                                            • Extra Innings
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 02-26-10
                                              • 15058

                                              #23
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                                              • shari91
                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                • 02-23-10
                                                • 32661

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by ProfaneReality
                                                this is simple... bets at offshore books for the most part dont get put into the track pool...therefore, in the tracks eyes, your ticket does not exist. bookmaker and every one else pays TRACK odds... not their own odds.... you got very unlucky that you hit this at an offshore sportsbook and not a racing site......but there is no way they will...or SHOULD pay you the pool amount.


                                                A friend of mine got stung by this for a lot more than the OP and learned her lesson very quickly about where and where not to place racing bets. It sucks arse but that just seems to be the way it is.
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                                                • obamaismyuncle
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 12-31-08
                                                  • 17801

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by jaimediazm
                                                  It is Bookmaker, trully there is nothing bad in saying it. The horse manager was out until tomorrow. Anybody think of any possible outcomes?Thanks
                                                  This does not surprise me one bit..
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                                                  • madmaxx
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 03-14-07
                                                    • 3289

                                                    #26
                                                    Whatever the outcome, don't use these offshore books for horse racing..some are ridiculous like the olympic books that have a $600 max payout. Imagine hitting a $10k pick4 and getting $600 cause you didn't read the rules.
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                                                    • madmaxx
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 03-14-07
                                                      • 3289

                                                      #27
                                                      Actually you may be saved:
                                                      5. If the track payout on a race pays to ALL on Super/Trifectas, pays out2 of 3 on a Pick 3, or 3 or 4 on a Pick 4, and BookMaker client's wager has the exact ticket, the customer will be paid out the whole minus the takeout percentage. If pool information is not available, the payout will be 3x's the consolation payout period. If take out information is not available, it will default to 20%. If paid out to the whole pool, consolation payouts on the same rates will not apply. All normal tracks limits are still applicable.

                                                      If they go by that, you are entitled to a nice payday. Note that BM has a $15,000 cap for Calder.
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                                                      • frankzig
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 10-26-09
                                                        • 2268

                                                        #28
                                                        Let me ask you guys this(And email me if you like).As I person who got burned by 2 different books(rated here b and above)3 times.Nasty emails dont help as they are their and you are here(U.S.)
                                                        Anyway
                                                        Why dont (say 4)guys 2 east coast 2 west coast set up pay pal and website to donate too.Deposit your cash and email your wagers.Then they are consolidated and taken to sports book in vegas and put down.If you have a big hit taxes will be paid right away.And winning paid accordingly?
                                                        I know it is a leap of faith BUT so is sending your money offshore.
                                                        Just a idea
                                                        If ANYBODY sees a downside or problem let me know via email
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                                                        • LUCKYCHUCK
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 11-19-09
                                                          • 1059

                                                          #29
                                                          looks like a valid argument. dont think they will pay you though
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                                                          • Albert Pujols
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 06-01-10
                                                            • 1670

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by frankzig
                                                            Let me ask you guys this(And email me if you like).As I person who got burned by 2 different books(rated here b and above)3 times.Nasty emails dont help as they are their and you are here(U.S.)
                                                            Anyway
                                                            Why dont (say 4)guys 2 east coast 2 west coast set up pay pal and website to donate too.Deposit your cash and email your wagers.Then they are consolidated and taken to sports book in vegas and put down.If you have a big hit taxes will be paid right away.And winning paid accordingly?
                                                            I know it is a leap of faith BUT so is sending your money offshore.
                                                            Just a idea
                                                            If ANYBODY sees a downside or problem let me know via email
                                                            Trust a paypal account with Frankie, Louie, Mikey, and Joey......over Bet Jamaica, Greek, 5 Dimes, and Bookmaker?

                                                            No, thanks. LMAO.
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                                                            • boeing power
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 03-23-10
                                                              • 9698

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Albert Pujols
                                                              Trust a paypal account with Frankie, Louie, Mikey, and Joey......over Bet Jamaica, Greek, 5 Dimes, and Bookmaker?

                                                              No, thanks. LMAO.
                                                              cmon AL, frankie looks like an honest guy
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                                                              • ProfaneReality
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 04-14-09
                                                                • 7607

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by madmaxx
                                                                Actually you may be saved:
                                                                5. If the track payout on a race pays to ALL on Super/Trifectas, pays out2 of 3 on a Pick 3, or 3 or 4 on a Pick 4, and BookMaker client's wager has the exact ticket, the customer will be paid out the whole minus the takeout percentage. If pool information is not available, the payout will be 3x's the consolation payout period. If take out information is not available, it will default to 20%. If paid out to the whole pool, consolation payouts on the same rates will not apply. All normal tracks limits are still applicable.

                                                                If they go by that, you are entitled to a nice payday. Note that BM has a $15,000 cap for Calder.
                                                                great find, he may be in luck afterall... I had no idea of this rule at bookmaker... it surely isn't the norm.
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                                                                • jaimediazm
                                                                  SBR Hustler
                                                                  • 02-07-10
                                                                  • 66

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Thank you Madmaxxxx!!!!!!!!!
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                                                                  • LT Profits
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 10-27-06
                                                                    • 90963

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Yep, you should be entitled to $15,000 per Bookmaker's own rules. If not for the 15K cap, you would have been entitled to about 18K (22K - 20%).
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                                                                    • mtneer1212
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 06-22-08
                                                                      • 4993

                                                                      #35
                                                                      By my account, you have 15K coming.
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