Fairlay currently stealing my btc, 6 figures

[raiders72001]

SBR getting mentioned a lot on the Fairlay troll box.

anonymous491: SBR has got this site on blast right now, even this troll box. Shout out SBR


anonymous816: sites down again


● danshan11: what do you mean the site is down?


● danshan11: you are literally on the site right now to type this message


anonymous779: I’m having tech issues w login and pages won’t load. Working for you?


● linan2332: working fine for ,e


anonymous89: are you two the only fairlay users


anonymous89: thanks it helps to have other people here either way


anonymous661: Im here


anonymous348: You guys should really return degens money


anonymous348: You may not think it makes a difference reputation wise, but it will. I remember when this happened to betg, but now that it’s a repeat, it’s enough to give me pause


anonymous348: I’m not even a big player, but people want to know their money is safe. A few hundred euros okay, but anyone you guys will really make money on will probably have second thoughts if/when they ever read what you’re doing with him


anonymous348: A lot of weird information too, it’s weird you have told other people around him what’s going on but not him/her


anonymous348: I think you should even compensate him/her for this. It’ll amend the situation very fast. I agree w vtc and others on the forums

[Okocha]

Im out of there until they explain what the hell is going on,and i gave them very hefty volume,they alwyas paid instantly etc but this behaviour is 2004 costa rican bookie stuff,or 2019 D stuff

Before this isue cant emphasize enough how good they were vs competitors with better Pinnacle limits and instant withdrawals that basically doest happen anywhere

Give us a note,a tweet a troll box comment something Fairlay ,silence only deteriorates your reputation when you are confiscating deposits,and not for the first time

Sory for my English

[raiders72001]

The latest from the troll box.

Thegreenmeans: What we need from Fairlay is an explanation of why this occurred and lay out the circumstances of this 3rd party involvement...Fairlay has been excellent for many years with no issues but btc washer BETG so they deserve benfit here but do need to expalin
Anonymous689: I want to know what happened to him too now though


Anonymous689: What would you guys do if you were Fairlay given what we know?


Anonymous689: SBR has the information and seem to side w user even giving benefit of doubt to Fairlay


Anonymous689: I’d just return money kick him off, call it a day and everyone moves on


● Thegreenmeans: Fairlay must have very good reason to hold and investigate...They have built a tremendous platform and great trust. They would not randomly hold funds unless it has very serious matter...If Degen commited fraud stole or hacked someone to obtain BTC I truly hope Fairlay returns them to the rightful owner..I know if Degen stole my btc I would want them back and expect the bookmakers to protect me


●Thegreenmeans: that said we do need a statement

[Craig22]

The latest from the troll box.

If Degen was seriously In the wrong, they would have put out a statement by now detailing what exactly. Since they don't care about alienating their customer base, it seems like they are trying to pull a fast one on their highest volume player since they think they can get away with it. On top of that, degen mentioned some threats he received from management, essentially showing they don't care about fairness. He's clearly holding back since he hopes they will do what's right and refund the deposit back.

[fried cheese]

even if the btc was stolen, i dont think fairlay has the right to confiscate it unless there is a court order. until someone is convicted of a crime it is just an allegation.

[littlekona]

even if the btc was stolen, i dont think fairlay has the right to confiscate it unless there is a court order. until someone is convicted of a crime it is just an allegation.

the question is what court could have jurisdiction over Fairlay....If it is some legal order or investigation I would guess it's more like FBI. I saw on another post poster discuss his theft on localbitcoins and he did say FBI could get involved if it was 5 figures and those thieves where from Finland....Interesting this case

[Alfie White]

FBI?

I call for Area 51 company to get involved too!

[lonnie55]

the question is what court could have jurisdiction over Fairlay

This agreement is made and entered into by and between you and Fairlay LLC, incorporated in the Republic of Costa Rica under ID number 3-102-736435 of the National Register

[moojoo]

the question is what court could have jurisdiction over Fairlay....If it is some legal order or investigation I would guess it's more like FBI. I saw on another post poster discuss his theft on localbitcoins and he did say FBI could get involved if it was 5 figures and those thieves where from Finland....Interesting this case

Scully and Mulder?

[Barrakuda]

the question is what court could have jurisdiction over Fairlay....If it is some legal order or investigation I would guess it's more like FBI. I saw on another post poster discuss his theft on localbitcoins and he did say FBI could get involved if it was 5 figures and those thieves where from Finland....Interesting this case

Well, in theory no one can touch BOL and Bookmaker, yet NJ just shut them off.

Optional: is the US govt. involved in this ordeal in any way?

[raiders72001]

Troll box silent on the case today. Bad timing for maintenance.

Anonymous488: Damn you had to pick US open to do maintenance
Anonymous249: you guys are whack


Anonymous249: mad sketchy shit going on here


●Linan2332: plz grade https://fairlay.com/market/liquid-vs...f-201fc0ee5b66

[TheMoneyShot]

Troll box silent on the case today. Bad timing for maintenance.

I dislike Fairlay more and more because of this police work. They are full of sh#$.

1 time... ok.... no problem. 2nd time..... I'd punch the owner right the fukk out and spit on em.

[littlekona]

I dislike Fairlay more and more because of this police work. They are full of sh#$.

1 time... ok.... no problem. 2nd time..... I'd punch the CEO right the fukk out and spit on em.

if you have problem with Fairlay then you should also with BOL and AC88 as they both have open cases by posters of holding deposits/funds 5 figures....If you think that scammers do not exist and players should always get funds back even if fraud is committed your in wrong IMO....Look at the Phil Ivy case even where book proved fraud took back millions and that was there fault it occurred Ivy was just observant and asked

[Optional]

Nothing to update.

We are waiting on both Fairlay and Degen at this end right now.

It's starting to sound like neither of them wants to actually resolve this soon.

[littlekona]

Nothing to update.

We are waiting on both Fairlay and Degen at this end right now.

It's starting to sound like neither of them wants to actually resolve this soon.

Thanks for update....it's like a bad poker bluff attempt by both and no one wants to show cards and look the fool

[fried cheese]

if you have problem with Fairlay then you should also with BOL and AC88 as they both have open cases by posters of holding deposits/funds 5 figures....If you think that scammers do not exist and players should always get funds back even if fraud is committed your in wrong IMO....Look at the Phil Ivy case even where book proved fraud took back millions and that was there fault it occurred Ivy was just observant and asked

i dont agree with the phil ivery ruling. casinos shouldnt be able to agree to things and cancel them after the fact because they didnt realize the consequences.

[raiders72001]

I dislike Fairlay more and more because of this police work. They are full of sh#$.

1 time... ok.... no problem. 2nd time..... I'd punch the owner right the fukk out and spit on em.

should be a line.

[raiders72001]

if you have problem with Fairlay then you should also with BOL and AC88 as they both have open cases by posters of holding deposits/funds 5 figures....If you think that scammers do not exist and players should always get funds back even if fraud is committed your in wrong IMO....Look at the Phil Ivy case even where book proved fraud took back millions and that was there fault it occurred Ivy was just observant and asked

No one proved fraud in the betg case. Fairlay isn't a judge. Fairlay claimed he's a money washer, scared betg and stole his money. The worst part about this is that Fairlay wanted a selfie video. Was Fairlay going to turn betg in?

[ichiro4thehall]

Nothing to update.

We are waiting on both Fairlay and Degen at this end right now.

It's starting to sound like neither of them wants to actually resolve this soon.

This sounds like Fairlay has made an offer to return only part of Degen1's money. Ridiculous, and makes them look much worse imo. What could be a reason to seize money, yet then start negotiating the return of a part of it? That is called a shakedown.

The way you put that is a bit unfair on Degen1 imo. Degen1 wants to resolve this because who else wouldn't want to have their 6 figure balance returned.

[tradeout]

No one proved fraud in the betg case. Fairlay isn't a judge. Fairlay claimed he's a money washer, scared betg and stole his money. The worst part about this is that Fairlay wanted a selfie video. Was Fairlay going to turn betg in?

Raiders

Hypothetical question

What if you had your btc stolen and you tracked it down to someone depositing your btc to fairlay, would your position (towards freezing the disputed funds) change? Wouldn't you want fairlay to hold to the funds and perhaps return them to you?

[littlekona]

No one proved fraud in the betg case. Fairlay isn't a judge. Fairlay claimed he's a money washer, scared betg and stole his money. The worst part about this is that Fairlay wanted a selfie video. Was Fairlay going to turn betg in?

Lol raiders, come on be fair and balanced...i see posts all over many forums about books esp many "regulated" ask for videos ect...if punters don't comply bye bye money....if any book i use ask me for video i send in minutes (full nude of course )

What is your opinion of the recent posts of AC 88 and BOL seizures of 5 figure funds?

[raiders72001]

Lol raiders, come on be fair and balanced...i see posts all over many forums about books esp many "regulated" ask for videos ect...if punters don't comply bye bye money....if any book i use ask me for video i send in minutes (full nude of course )

What is your opinion of the recent posts of AC 88 and BOL seizures of 5 figure funds?

Then we agree, betg was a money washer and Fairlay a thief for keeping the money.

[littlekona]

Then we agree, betg was a money washer and Fairlay a thief for keeping the money.

Your like trump like to distract and not answer questions... btw Betg for all we know sent video and was paid or is in some jail cell in Bangladesh...he disappeared...

Back to question whats your opinion of the 2 five figure cases AC 88 and BOL seizures of funds by posters...
Both books i hold high regards and trust same as fairlay

[raiders72001]

Raiders

Hypothetical question

What if you had your btc stolen and you tracked it down to someone depositing your btc to fairlay, would your position (towards freezing the disputed funds) change? Wouldn't you want fairlay to hold to the funds and perhaps return them to you?

If someone steals $100k from me and deposits that money in Bookmaker, I can't go to Bookmaker and ask for that $100k. Only a court can do that.

All the facts haven't come out yet so I don't know the whole case. If not for Fairlay keeping betg's money, I may have a different opinion with degen.

[raiders72001]

Your like trump like to distract and not answer questions... btw Betg for all we know sent video and was paid or is in some jail cell in Bangladesh...he disappeared...

Back to question whats your opinion of the 2 five figure cases AC 88 and BOL seizures of funds by posters...
Both books i hold high regards and trust same as fairlay

Not that familiar with them. What happened?

[degen1]

Nothing to update.

We are waiting on both Fairlay and Degen at this end right now.

It's starting to sound like neither of them wants to actually resolve this soon.

whoa why are you guys waiting for me?

[Optional]

AC88 kept about 10k from a Ukranian player that could not return a PVC 4 or 5 years ago. He said his village was part of the war and they were evacuated and could not possibly get back to find a letter.

They were quite suspicious of him anyway but it seemed unreasonable to rely only on the PVC code in the circumstances. It was possible to confirm his story about the war zone.

I did not agree with it at the time.

Same as I don't agree with Bet365 demanding a PVC code with no alternative tracked delivery method if it does not arrive multiple times.

Not sure what BOL case he means. Unless it was a very long time ago I don't think they have made any confiscation that could not be properly justified.

[littlekona]

Not that familiar with them. What happened?

https://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/sportsbooks-industry/3560476-sportsbetting-ag-betonline-not-pay.html

https://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/sportsbooks-industry/3560748-asianconnect-fairexchange-account-permanently-closed-37k-seized-unfairly.html

Btw i use both and rate ac88 and bol A+ just posting this to show books do this when fraudster pull stuff or suspicions occur

[Optional]

whoa why are you guys waiting for me?

Waiting for you to contact the dispute agent to talk over options since Monday?

[DontTailMe]

This sounds like Fairlay has made an offer to return only part of Degen1's money. Ridiculous, and makes them look much worse imo. What could be a reason to seize money, yet then start negotiating the return of a part of it? That is called a shakedown.

The way you put that is a bit unfair on Degen1 imo. Degen1 wants to resolve this because who else wouldn't want to have their 6 figure balance returned.

You're making a huge leap. There are many possibilities here.

[ichiro4thehall]

You're making a huge leap. There are many possibilities here.

Let me have two, please.

[raiders72001]

https://www.sportsbookreview.com/for...e-not-pay.html

https://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/sportsbooks-industry/3560748-asianconnect-fairexchange-account-permanently-closed-37k-seized-unfairly.html

Btw i use both and rate ac88 and bol A+ just posting this to show books do this when fraudster pull stuff or suspicions occur

These two cases are too new for me to have any type of educated opinion. It's not clear cut as the betg case.

Things have changed at BOL but I was playing with them 15 years ago or so receiving checks out of NY.

[Alfie White]

Kona, stop shilling about the places where you bet.

[Texans365]

Kona, stop shilling about the places where you bet.

About one particular place - fairlay. Kona, it becomes boring, really.

[moojoo]

About one particular place - fairlay. Kona, it becomes boring, really.

Maybe they throw him 20$ FP from time to time,so he become unstoppable.