Fairlay currently stealing my btc, 6 figures

[degen1]

Seems as like many scammers the story changes...so you obviously have a clue why this occurred....eagelesfan is a sharp btc poster and most likely pegged what this situation is and if that is case Fairlay investigation of matter would be appropriate.....what would be real funny If somehow your “wife” would be involved...I love those just as much as “a friend spent the night” revelations

I have no idea what this means, where did you learn to construct sentences? But in no way has my story changed, I already addressed your questions. You’re just some basement lurker who has schadenfreude and jerks off to all the gossip on the forums. What are you doing bro? You’ve posted on this thread as much or more than me bc you’re a shill weirdo. You probably throw out a lot of air bets and love to be part of the conversation but realistically you’ve never hit a 4 figure pick your life.

[degen1]

Just a neutral & curious observer here, who is always on the lookout for places to avoid/use. My first thought is, has to be legal authorities investigating, unless you know "3rd party" means otherwise. Definitely better they confirmed having received the deposit and is under review, verse not received. I'd second the thought that someone else claiming the account is absurd, presuming you were the only 1 using daily for months, and the IP addresses and such from which site access/transactions were routinely made remained the same throughout. Or, did you recently move, and/or use various ways to access the site, verse say me that would either just use a home comp w/wifi or iphone w/wireless and am always within 50 miles of home? My guess is that if legal authorities freeze funds, and then have some court order to confiscate/forfeit, the Book would not be keeping. Would then presume you/attorney would know what court ordered what and why. Of course, depends on Costa Rica or the local jurisdiction, so best to have a local attorney there. Would not think is a claim BTC was stolen either, for you either bought the BTC from your own account and have that audit trail, or the BTC was sent to you legitimately (I'll presume). If the BTC sent and being investigated was BTC you had just bought from your own personal account, then no claim there, but if you sent them BTC that had been sent to you, and/or how you got possession of the BTC is more open to possible allegations.

For this peon, can't even imagine 100 BTC wager. Not in this lifetime. And, not sure you want the $$$ even at the Vegas window, unless you got big pockets with big guys and big guns. Although, I do believe winnings may be received in the form of a check, unless that's an audit trail not wanted. And so, after using them nicely for 7 months, had you previously just got a payout, or lost prior deposit and then sent them a 6 figure deposit again or for the first time that much? You were playing various team sports, casino, track stuff, or was all placed on 1 wager and/or 1 League (like MLB verse you betting some odd prop bet or on an individual match like tennis or UFC)? My wild in the dark guess based on the info here, is some domestic issue (divorce, child support), tax/AML CTR issue, judgement/creditor ... you owe someone money and they found out where you sent it. Hoping none of that's the case, and all works out.

Thank you for your thoughts and insights, a lot of interesting ideas, certainly all feasible technically, but in my mind no chance, this was all business as usual for me up until the flag, nothing deviating from the past few months both on Fairlay and out, so I am as confused and imaginative as you are. Most questions surround third party, who it could be, how they could have even singled me out, why nothing can be said about it, why they have power over Fairlay, and why it’s taking so long

[littlekona]

I have no idea what this means, where did you learn to construct sentences? But in no way has my story changed, I already addressed your questions. You’re just some basement lurker who has schadenfreude and jerks off to all the gossip on the forums. What are you doing bro? You’ve posted on this thread as much or more than me bc you’re a shill weirdo. You probably throw out a lot of air bets and love to be part of the conversation but realistically you’ve never hit a 4 figure pick your life.

Im vip 5 too just am more volume player then one to wager 4 figures very often since i work for a living and actually earn funds I use to wager with..what does my wagering style have to do with your attempted scam? seems like it’s unraveling and your getting more distracted and lashing out....tick tock

[degen1]

Im vip 5 too just am more volume player then one to wager 4 figures very often since i work for a living and actually earn funds I use to wager with..what does my wagering style have to do with your attempted scam? seems like it’s unraveling and your getting more distracted and lashing out....tick tock

L o l, what are you going to do when you’re wrong? Got strong words behind that computer

[degen1]

If I’m right you should probably leave this site forever. You got a lot riding on Fairlay being right you shill

[degen1]

Im vip 5 too, just am more of a volume player than one to wager 4 figures very oftenof a bettor with real money (grammatically it's more of a .... than of a ____, so I went ahead and fixed for you) since i work for a living and actually earn funds I use to wager with..what does my wagering style have to do with your attempted scam? seems like it’s unraveling and you're getting more distracted and lashing out....tick tock

just helped you out w a quick grammar lesson, it's not too late for us to fix your English, no chance you have a real job right now, but we can help you get there if we work at it.

[littlekona]

just helped you out w a quick grammar lesson, it's not too late for us to fix your English, no chance you have a real job right now, but we can help you get there if we work at it.

Lol more distractions as you’re case unravels and scam soon exposed.....did your lawyer help with this edit?

[degen1]

Lol more distractions as you’re case unravels and scam soon exposed.....did your lawyer help with this edit?

This time you want to use your**. "You're" is short for "You are", so "You are case unravels" isn't proper english. I'll help you through this, just let me know any questions you have. Trolling you is a perfect distraction for me while I wait for this to be handled, yes thank you.

[Ant23]

So was the theory of child support/ex-wife/Uncle Sam ever clarified? As the days turn into weeks it isn't looking good for gambler or Fairlay unless they have a very valid reason(court order/subpoena) to hold deposit hostage......just my 2 pennies

[raiders72001]

So was the theory of child support/ex-wife/Uncle Sam ever clarified? As the days turn into weeks it isn't looking good for gambler or Fairlay unless they have a very valid reason(court order/subpoena) to hold deposit hostage......just my 2 pennies

Not a lawyer here but I think they would have to do a discovery of assets first and the OP would have been given notice before a judge would sign a court order in family court. Uncle Sam is a whole new story but grabbing money in Costa Rica doesn't seem plausible. As I said, I'm not a lawyer and just guessing.

[TheMoneyShot]

Depending on the outcome of this story.... I may never use Fairlay again.

Will Fairlay post the outcome in the trollbox? Or just sweep everything under the rug?

[Ant23]

Raiders......do you really think the entire story has been told Here? I'll lay a nickel on the under 25% of the facts being told

[degen1]

Raiders......do you really think the entire story has been told Here? I'll lay a nickel on the under 25% of the facts being told

I’ll throw a few coins on the over

[raiders72001]

Raiders......do you really think the entire story has been told Here? I'll lay a nickel on the under 25% of the facts being told

I'd agree there's a lot more to the story. If I were degen1, I wouldn't say a thing until Fairlay makes a decision.

[degen1]

I'd agree there's a lot more to the story. If I were degen1, I wouldn't say a thing until Fairlay makes a decision.

I think this is pretty straight forward, I have no idea what it is but obviously they think something happened, I primarily disagree w how they’re handling the situation and the one other time I’ve had a dispute with a book I was clearly right and rewarded as such. We will see what it is, I don’t mind or blame anyone for suspecting more, I accomplished what I set out to do here, and appreciate the help/insights, even the dumb trolling - I had fun w it. I’m not an idiot though, I wouldn’t have made such a stink about it if I didn’t believe what I’m saying and Fairlay themselves have corroborated. Until I’m wrong, your suspicions are just signs of the cynicism of humanity. Fingers crossed

[Barrakuda]

Who knows...but it has to be something seious cause Fairlay is the fairest and has least complaints out of any btc book....im sure sbr and fairlay will post the resolution and reason once complete...hopefully OP is innocent and just got caught up in something like some of us did at 9wickets while back as Fairlay posts seem to like him and want him back as customer.... but we all know btc is traceable and we all know when books investigaion occur they dont provide much detail until completed...

You know nothing about Fairlay other than your own experience. We get it. You love them more than your dog. That doesn't explain what is happening here. At all.

[Barrakuda]

Or maybe you just have no clue what you are talking about. You've posted 5-6 times in the thread and there is exactly nothing of essence just filler. Perhaps consider what you point is before posting the 7th time?

That's literally his entire posting history. Inform people he has never had an issue with Book X, which by some convoluted logic is supposed to raise suspicions as to the OP's honesty. Repeat same post 10-30x.

[Barrakuda]

Dude that’s ancient history and I have no idea what books do with money that’s frozen due to scams..happens a lot from what I see here many scammers...they should have to donate it to gamblers assistance programs or something similar that would help the people who need it.....but be polite here and not hi jack this gentleman’s post with betg spam nonsense....the OP here case is complete differently it seems so far and deserves the post to be about his issues

What a fcking tool. "Ancient history" and "I have no idea" They stole the money bc they were pissed they were being used for money laundering. People who steal when they get pissed should never be trusted.

[Barrakuda]

If I had to guess, I'd say it's some govt. agency -- prob. a state atty. general who has some weird ideas of how to make Fairlay's life hell. I mean, why does a completely unregulated and anonymous foreign entity with zero connections to financial insts. stipulate that it cannot accept wagers from two US states only? No country prohibitions, just two US states. That strongly implies to me that creative states are on to their game and are doing things to make life difficult.

If my theory is correct, the US exchange has yet to close your acct. bc they are cooperating with the state in question, who does not want to alert you yet as to what is going on.

Is this a half-baked conspiracy theory? Yes. Prob. more likely is that you did something to annoy Fairlay and they simply took your money. If we know anything about them, it's that they are vengeful when they feel they have been wronged. But I find the specific US state exclusions to be beyond strange for such a rogue outfit.

I'm hoping you get your money back, no matter what this issue is.

[Optional]

Kona is like a protective parent about Fairly, but it's coming from an honest place.

Let's try to veer back on topic to just the OPs problem ;-)


I don't see good reason to be overtly suspicious here personally. OP is a big player and is being looked at.

Chances are it will be resolved. Or properly explained.

[Barrakuda]

@degen If you don't mind telling, how much roughly are you up on fairlay lifetime?

[Optional]

If I had to guess, I'd say it's some govt. agency -- prob. a state atty. general who has some weird ideas of how to make Fairlay's life hell. I mean, why does a completely unregulated and anonymous foreign entity with zero connections to financial insts. stipulate that it cannot accept wagers from two US states only? No country prohibitions, just two US states. That strongly implies to me that creative states are on to their game and are doing things to make life difficult.

If my theory is correct, the US exchange has yet to close your acct. bc they are cooperating with the state in question, who does not want to alert you yet as to what is going on.

Is this a half-baked conspiracy theory? Yes. Prob. more likely is that you did something to annoy Fairlay and they simply took your money. If we know anything about them, it's that they are vengeful when they feel they have been wronged. But I find the specific US state exclusions to be beyond strange for such a rogue outfit.

I'm hoping you get your money back, no matter what this issue is.

They are a registered/licensed legal business in CR.

And CR is party to international Anti Money Laundering agreements.

Not that I am aware of any CR book apart from Fairlay who has pulled the AML excuse before.

[Barrakuda]

They are a registered/licensed legal business in CR.

And CR is party to international Anti Money Laundering agreements.

Not that I am aware of any CR book apart from Fairlay who has pulled the AML excuse before.

I did not know that. It looks like https://fairlay.com/legal/ was added in ~March of this year. Prior to that (or at least last time i looked), I believe they had nothing up wrt to location, and their IP resolved to a server in central Africa.

SInce they are in CR, does SBR know any of the principals personally?

[Optional]

I did not know that. It looks like https://fairlay.com/legal/ was added in ~March of this year. Prior to that (or at least last time i looked), I believe they had nothing up wrt to location, and their IP resolved to a server in central Africa.

SInce they are in CR, does SBR know any of the principals personally?

I don't know for sure. I'd guess probably if they are in San Jose too.

The CEO says he is in Brazil btw.

[TwitchySeal]

Found my way over here from degen1s thread on bitcointalk.

My guess is this guy knows he did something super shady and likely got caught, but isn't sure how much Fairlay knows (or how they figured it out).

I wouldn't be surprised if he even has a history of pulling this kind of thing.

Could be wrong - just putting all the red flags together.

Hope we'll see soon.

[Bsims]

If I had to guess, I'd say it's some govt. agency -- prob. a state atty. general who has some weird ideas of how to make Fairlay's life hell. I mean, why does a completely unregulated and anonymous foreign entity with zero connections to financial insts. stipulate that it cannot accept wagers from two US states only? No country prohibitions, just two US states. That strongly implies to me that creative states are on to their game and are doing things to make life difficult.

If my theory is correct, the US exchange has yet to close your acct. bc they are cooperating with the state in question, who does not want to alert you yet as to what is going on.

Is this a half-baked conspiracy theory? Yes. Prob. more likely is that you did something to annoy Fairlay and they simply took your money. If we know anything about them, it's that they are vengeful when they feel they have been wronged. But I find the specific US state exclusions to be beyond strange for such a rogue outfit.

I'm hoping you get your money back, no matter what this issue is.

My guess is that Barrakuda is on the right trail. The book might be registered in Costa Rica, but some of those involved with the site might be in the U.S. Even if they're not, they might be concerned. I remember a story from a few years back. A European owned a sports book in Central America that the feds had a major problem with. But he was out of reach. Until one day he was flying from Europe to Central America. The feds nabbed his ass as he was changing planes in Dallas.

[jjgold]

Stay away from brokers and all these fly by night operations

[degen1]

#freedegen

[chico2663]

hope you come out all right. Have you been married? Any kids? Divorced? Sounds like a bitter beetch caught you hiding the funds and figured out where you keep some of it. Seen it happen but not with a gambling site.

[littlekona]

#freedegen

have your lawyer contact Trump LOL

Tickle us a bit Degen....What is your small guess what this is all about? You did say in posting you had small idea why this occurred right? Come on as there are so many theories abound here....I think that eaglesfan is probably closest to truth...

[TheMoneyShot]

Just read the trollbox at Fairlay for the first time. Surprising that Fairlay went PUBLIC with it. They must of noticed the HEAT they were getting? This could be make or break for FAIRLAY now.

Naturally, degen will be pissed off if Fairlay keeps his funds. But, on the other side of the coin.... once the results are posted publicly... and Fairlay has decided to hold onto the player's funds. It's ALL OVER FOR THEM.

This is a REAL DUMB move (business wise) to steal player's funds away. Don't know how they would sweep it under the rug? Would they even risk it? Very weird.

[littlekona]

Just read the trollbox at Fairlay for the first time. Surprising that Fairlay went PUBLIC with it. They must of noticed the HEAT they were getting? This could be make or break for FAIRLAY now.

Naturally, degen will be pissed off if Fairlay keeps his funds. But, on the other side of the coin.... once the results are posted publicly... and Fairlay has decided to hold onto the player's funds. It's ALL OVER FOR THEM.

This is a REAL DUMB move (business wise) to steal player's funds away. Don't know how they would sweep it under the rug? Would they even risk it? Very weird.

Unless its legit and the "3rd Party" is someone with legal claim to the coins kinda like eaglesfan mentioned...Crazy situation that hopefully gets sorted out soon and we have answers.

[TheMoneyShot]

Unless its legit and the "3rd Party" is someone with legal claim to the coins kinda like eaglesfan mentioned...Crazy situation that hopefully gets sorted out soon and we have answers.

But again... let's take the angle or approach that RAIDERS has mentioned before. Sure, we heard about the other dude WASHING BTC and doing "unusual" activity before. (I forgot that dudes screen name.) Anyways... perhaps FAIRLAY went overboard doing the police work? Ok... it was like a 1 time thing. They weren't even that popular back then....

Now... they have more popularity. They have to be 100% sure... that this is the RIGHT THING TO DO... and honestly... just like RAIDERS mentioned before... "They aren't here to do the police work." They are there to take wagers... and that's it. So, I don't think I'll ever make another deposit over there. I let 1 time slide... they were new... and we all make mistakes... but you can't continuously do this to people.

Just take the deposit and allow people to wager. How in the fukk did this "3rd party" even know how to contact Fairlay? And why would Fairlay even care to acknowledge their request? Fairlay going to be in some hot water when it's over. Word will get out... they will lose some business.

[littlekona]

But again... let's take the angle or approach that RAIDERS has mentioned before. Sure, we heard about the other dude WASHING BTC and doing "unusual" activity before. (I forgot that dudes screen name.) Anyways... perhaps FAIRLAY went overboard doing the police work? Ok... it was like a 1 time thing. They weren't even that popular back then....

Now... they have more popularity. They have to be 100% sure... that this is the RIGHT THING TO DO... and honestly... just like RAIDERS mentioned before... "They aren't here to do the police work." They are there to take wagers... and that's it. So, I don't think I'll ever make another deposit over there. I let 1 time slide... they were new... and we all make mistakes... but you can't continuously do this to people.

Just take the deposit and allow people to wager. How in the fukk did this "3rd party" even know how to contact Fairlay? And why would Fairlay even care to acknowledge their request? Fairlay going to be in some hot water when it's over. Word will get out... they will lose some business.

for sure many unanswered questions here that we are all very curious about...the 3rd party is a concern and it seems it is someone outside the Fairlay family of developers or market makers..Eaglesfan made a good guess I feel and if that is case Fairlay is in right to investigate as would most all books....Very intriguing this truly is

[degen1]

This makes less and less sense to me, regardless of who the third party is or what this is, the deposit should be either given back to me and my account frozen fine or be given to a third party. I can see that the coin is still in Fairlay custody