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  • In The Zone
    Restricted User
    • 09-06-09
    • 43

    #876
    Originally posted by Chopsticks
    There is a free withdrawal every month, and to most that should be enough unless you are über paranoid about keeping money with bet911. In which case you should probably stop playing there and head over to pinnacle, bookmaker, matchbook or the likes.

    But my gripe is that this fee information for accounts in other currencies have not been available to us in the past. Obviously this is an oversight issue, and according to new Sheriff, Carl is partly to blame for this. I can totally understand that fees are higher for higher withdrawals, but at the same time I understand why someone feels they are unfairly treated when they introduce new fees.

    But after reviewing the maths on the matter it is actually fair. Bear with me on this. Right now £1500 (max transaction on withdrawals) is $2487, so let's call it $2500 even.

    This is a scenario where a player has a $2500 balance. He has already used his free payout for the month, but needs $2500 to buy more paper towels (or whatever )

    First he requests $1500 to moneybookers. He has to pay a $35 fee.
    Then he request $1000 to moneybookers, he has to pay a $25 fee.
    Total fees paid: $35 + $25 = $60

    Now for a withdrawal of £1500. This withdrawal can be done in one transaction (unless changed!)..
    He withdraws £1500 to moneybookers, for this he has to pay £35, or about $58.
    Total fees paid: $58

    So it is actually a fair fee. And if you take in to account that the player with a £GBP or €Eur account can withdraw £/€1500 per month for free, then he would actually pay less fees because the € and £ is worth more than the $.

    To put this in to perspective:
    £1500 is worth $2487. The player can use his one free withdrawal p/m to get this money without fees.
    $1500 is worth $1500. The player can use his one free withdrawal p/m to get this money without fees.

    So obviously players with GBP accounts pay less fees than players that have accounts in different currencies.


    My gripe though is that this information was not available on the site. I hope that Bet911 updates the site asap to reflect these changes.

    It is also a nice touch that they now operate with fees that are substantially lower if you request a small payout, whereas back in august (?) I think they operated with a flat $35 fee, Great job on that!
    Great mathamatics and thanks, I will see what I can do to try and get some sort payout scale one the site but that is up to the chieftain who pays the sheriff and not the sheriff
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    • In The Zone
      Restricted User
      • 09-06-09
      • 43

      #877
      Originally posted by Vince Lombardi
      Several other books will. The number of times you have to rollover the money is the catch. Some require 7 or 8 and I've seen some up to 15. Some books have a 30 to 60 day hold also.
      bet911 6X rollover
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      • In The Zone
        Restricted User
        • 09-06-09
        • 43

        #878
        Just as a matter of interest, does it take Julie longer to process a GBP 1500 withdrawal than one for USD 1500?

        Of course it takes her longer to process a GBP than a USD, did you forget she has to do the conversion from GBP to USD for her books
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        • Chopsticks
          SBR MVP
          • 06-30-09
          • 1057

          #879
          Originally posted by In The Zone
          Of course it takes her longer to process a GBP than a USD, did you forget she has to do the conversion from GBP to USD for her books
          I think the amount is reasonable after thinking about it. especially when we know that payouts are almost instantly at Bet911.. not as steady and stable as Pinnacle where you can request it any time of the day and expect it within 15 minutes, but still pretty awesome. And they may be slower on mondays as there are probably loads of withdrawals to go through then. As long as you continue to pay fast I am fine with the fees as they are now. Afterall, we have one free withdrawal p/m. Unliimited free payouts are nice (Thank you boylesports!), but Bet911 needs to get a lot more action and clients before that can happen.
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          • In The Zone
            Restricted User
            • 09-06-09
            • 43

            #880
            Originally posted by Chopsticks
            I think the amount is reasonable after thinking about it. especially when we know that payouts are almost instantly at Bet911.. not as steady and stable as Pinnacle where you can request it any time of the day and expect it within 15 minutes, but still pretty awesome. And they may be slower on mondays as there are probably loads of withdrawals to go through then. As long as you continue to pay fast I am fine with the fees as they are now. Afterall, we have one free withdrawal p/m. Unliimited free payouts are nice (Thank you boylesports!), but Bet911 needs to get a lot more action and clients before that can happen.

            Amen
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            • Dunder
              Restricted User
              • 10-26-09
              • 3345

              #881
              Originally posted by Chopsticks
              but Bet911 needs to get a lot more action and clients before that can happen.
              Chicken/Egg.

              I might still give these guys a try but it will be a relatively small deposit. Personally I am no more inclined to expose myself to a GBP 35 withdrawal fee than I am to bet with book A at odds worse than I can get a book B.
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              • In The Zone
                Restricted User
                • 09-06-09
                • 43

                #882
                Originally posted by Dunder
                Chicken/Egg.

                I might still give these guys a try but it will be a relatively small deposit. Personally I am no more inclined to expose myself to a GBP 35 withdrawal fee than I am to bet with book A at odds worse than I can get a book B.
                Well if you decide to come aboard you are more than welcome to and I am sure we can work something out. As we say in bet911 ( IT"S YOUR CHOICE )
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                • Dunder
                  Restricted User
                  • 10-26-09
                  • 3345

                  #883
                  Originally posted by In The Zone
                  Of course it takes her longer to process a GBP than a USD, did you forget she has to do the conversion from GBP to USD for her books
                  Why doesn´t she just use the abacus labelled GBP? [/sarcasm]
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                  • In The Zone
                    Restricted User
                    • 09-06-09
                    • 43

                    #884
                    Originally posted by Dunder
                    Why doesn´t she just use the abacus labelled GBP? [/sarcasm]
                    I have no idea what that is myself how would she?
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                    • tartantipster
                      SBR Hustler
                      • 09-21-08
                      • 70

                      #885
                      Bet911.com

                      Bet911.com paid four figure sum, in a few hours.
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                      • In The Zone
                        Restricted User
                        • 09-06-09
                        • 43

                        #886
                        Originally posted by tartantipster
                        Bet911.com paid four figure sum, in a few hours.

                        Yes and we will continue to do so unless something like an earthquake keeps us from it
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                        • In The Zone
                          Restricted User
                          • 09-06-09
                          • 43

                          #887
                          Remember any problems get ahold of me and today is -105 day for everyone so if you are betting on american football or basketball and you dont get -105 please let me know so I can resolve the problem, ok. both reduced and normal juice get -105 today.
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                          • headgames
                            SBR High Roller
                            • 10-04-08
                            • 225

                            #888
                            I reloaded earlier (first time since Carl left) and because it's Thanksgiving bonuses were increased to either 10% cash or 25% free play on a reduced juice account which I have and then other increases for other things. A nice surprise and maybe I'll win here this time.
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                            • In The Zone
                              Restricted User
                              • 09-06-09
                              • 43

                              #889
                              Well with so many games to choose from it ought to be easy for you all to get a six pack in.
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                              • In The Zone
                                Restricted User
                                • 09-06-09
                                • 43

                                #890
                                Originally posted by headgames
                                I reloaded earlier (first time since Carl left) and because it's Thanksgiving bonuses were increased to either 10% cash or 25% free play on a reduced juice account which I have and then other increases for other things. A nice surprise and maybe I'll win here this time.
                                Headgames,

                                Welcome back, hopegully you will see that bet911 has not changed at all since Carl left, well maybe the fact that there is a new sheriff in town (me). My nickname is (Get'er Done). Anyway welcome back and good luck!
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                                • In The Zone
                                  Restricted User
                                  • 09-06-09
                                  • 43

                                  #891
                                  6 pack to the ball game
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                                  • aslan
                                    SBR Rookie
                                    • 11-26-08
                                    • 15

                                    #892
                                    had another 1500gbp payout within 6 hours yesterday. excellent customer services and withdrawals here, although perhaps a little steep on withdrawal charges, but thinking about it it's worth the extra to get the withdrawal so fast.

                                    keep it up robert and team
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                                    • aslan
                                      SBR Rookie
                                      • 11-26-08
                                      • 15

                                      #893
                                      another today in <6hours. no fuss. excellent.
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                                      • koan153
                                        SBR Rookie
                                        • 06-01-08
                                        • 14

                                        #894
                                        If you sign up on certain terms and conditions and they then retrospectively impose different terms and conditions would you call this a foul?.
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                                        • In The Zone
                                          Restricted User
                                          • 09-06-09
                                          • 43

                                          #895
                                          Originally posted by koan153
                                          If you sign up on certain terms and conditions and they then retrospectively impose different terms and conditions would you call this a foul?.
                                          If you have read the rules and regs you will see that it says the powers that be has the right to change anything they want without letting you know. Sorry but I am not powers that be not much I can do.
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                                          • UV82
                                            SBR Sharp
                                            • 07-25-09
                                            • 396

                                            #896
                                            I havent been folowing this thread for a while and I was not shocked to see Carl go... I knew that Carl was a "too good to be true" for a D+ rated book like 911.

                                            They are stupid to let him and now their destiny is in their own hands ... if they keep the Carl mentality they will win but if they slip once they are history.

                                            I know that most people signed up just becuase of Carl and I am very curious to see what happens now.

                                            Carl, if you are reading this ... go to any decent book and you can do miracles for them and make money at the same time...

                                            I trusted Carl from day one but had the gut feel he is not going to stay.. 911 was not a match for him he was far too good for them and I knew this marriage couldnt last for very long and therefore I didn't sign up.

                                            I hope for Bet911 that they will be smart enough to maintain what Carl (who is shining star in this dark place) started.
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                                            • Santo
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 09-08-05
                                              • 2957

                                              #897
                                              Originally posted by In The Zone

                                              If you have read the rules and regs you will see that it says the powers that be has the right to change anything they want without letting you know. Sorry but I am not powers that be not much I can do.
                                              You could say 'We have the right to confiscate customers funds at any time'. It doesn't mean you could apply it and be seen to be fair. What are the details of this case, and what extra terms were imposed on the customer?
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                                              • Dunder
                                                Restricted User
                                                • 10-26-09
                                                • 3345

                                                #898
                                                Originally posted by In The Zone
                                                If you have read the rules and regs you will see that it says the powers that be has the right to change anything they want without letting you know. Sorry but I am not powers that be not much I can do.

                                                Great sales pitch.
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                                                • In The Zone
                                                  Restricted User
                                                  • 09-06-09
                                                  • 43

                                                  #899
                                                  Originally posted by Santo
                                                  You could say 'We have the right to confiscate customers funds at any time'. It doesn't mean you could apply it and be seen to be fair. What are the details of this case, and what extra terms were imposed on the customer?
                                                  Here is the situation, when he signed up the daily perks were part of the rollover, but a few weeks back the powers that be changed that and no longer allowed Daily perks to be part of the rollover. When he asked for a pay out the daily perks were not considered cause of the new rule. Therefore he was not able to take a withdraw.
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                                                  • Chopsticks
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 06-30-09
                                                    • 1057

                                                    #900
                                                    Originally posted by In The Zone
                                                    Here is the situation, when he signed up the daily perks were part of the rollover, but a few weeks back the powers that be changed that and no longer allowed Daily perks to be part of the rollover. When he asked for a pay out the daily perks were not considered cause of the new rule. Therefore he was not able to take a withdraw.
                                                    So does that mean any wagering he did before the rule change is also pretty much void in regards to the rollover?

                                                    Also I sent you an e-mail about the loss recovery programme and members rewards programme. Back when I signed up it was enough to just notify Carl on live chat that you wanted to be part of it, but now I get the feeling I will get screwed over because of the new regime and the rule changes that it has brought with it. The fact that I haven't had a reply to it makes me even more vary (only 14 hours ago to be fair, so may still get a reply)...

                                                    Anyway.. I hope you will do the honorable thing.
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                                                    • koan153
                                                      SBR Rookie
                                                      • 06-01-08
                                                      • 14

                                                      #901
                                                      Originally posted by In The Zone
                                                      Here is the situation, when he signed up the daily perks were part of the rollover, but a few weeks back the powers that be changed that and no longer allowed Daily perks to be part of the rollover. When he asked for a pay out the daily perks were not considered cause of the new rule. Therefore he was not able to take a withdraw.
                                                      The point is when the rule changes came in to effect i specifically asked carl whether he would honour the old terms and conditions or not and he quite specifically said yes,if he had something like daily perks no longer contribute to the WR,I wouldn't have done them.Promises were made to me by carl and have not been kept that is what's annoying me.
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                                                      • In The Zone
                                                        Restricted User
                                                        • 09-06-09
                                                        • 43

                                                        #902
                                                        Originally posted by Chopsticks
                                                        So does that mean any wagering he did before the rule change is also pretty much void in regards to the rollover?

                                                        Also I sent you an e-mail about the loss recovery programme and members rewards programme. Back when I signed up it was enough to just notify Carl on live chat that you wanted to be part of it, but now I get the feeling I will get screwed over because of the new regime and the rule changes that it has brought with it. The fact that I haven't had a reply to it makes me even more vary (only 14 hours ago to be fair, so may still get a reply)...

                                                        Anyway.. I hope you will do the honorable thing.

                                                        Get ahold of me on chat and lets talk, Ill do you right
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                                                        • In The Zone
                                                          Restricted User
                                                          • 09-06-09
                                                          • 43

                                                          #903
                                                          Originally posted by koan153
                                                          The point is when the rule changes came in to effect i specifically asked carl whether he would honour the old terms and conditions or not and he quite specifically said yes,if he had something like daily perks no longer contribute to the WR,I wouldn't have done them.Promises were made to me by carl and have not been kept that is what's annoying me.
                                                          Basically it is like this, if carl would of put a note in your account saying that then I would of honored it but other than that it is not going to carry much weight.
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                                                          • In The Zone
                                                            Restricted User
                                                            • 09-06-09
                                                            • 43

                                                            #904
                                                            Ok I will charge everyone $35 for a withdrawal of 1500, but $1500 dollars. So since you like to go by that rule ok. We thought we were giving you all a break by letting you take 1500 GBP or 1500 Euros, but it looks like you dont appreciate us letting you do that. I will post in all the Forums this news dont worry billy and I will make sure to tell them it is all thanks to you, billysastard
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                                                            • nitzantal
                                                              SBR Hustler
                                                              • 04-18-06
                                                              • 61

                                                              #905
                                                              I cannot tell you how impressed I am... I made a withdrawal request for $1500 today (my first withdrawal after 2 months of playing @ Bet911) and it took 1 hour & 8 minutes from the email requting the withdrawal and the email confirming that money is in my Moneybookers account... this is at the same level as Pinnacle and definitely better than 5Dime, The Greek & Cris.

                                                              Keep up the good work Robert.

                                                              The only compalint I have got is $35 fee for $1500 withdrawal is too steep and $1500 limit per withdrawal & $3000 per week is too low
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                                                              • nitzantal
                                                                SBR Hustler
                                                                • 04-18-06
                                                                • 61

                                                                #906
                                                                ... and letting Carl go was a mistake
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                                                                • headgames
                                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                                  • 10-04-08
                                                                  • 225

                                                                  #907
                                                                  If you've $1500 or less you want to withdraw then you can get it back for free using the one free payout per 30 days thing. Or, if you want to withdraw $3000 overall quite quickly, you could do so by paying $35 one time and then taking the free withdrawal on Monday which works out $17.50 for $3000 of withdrawals.

                                                                  + I just went to deposit and there's an offer on and I got 20% cash on my reload. For anyone like me who was checking this thread to see any notice of increased offers like in the past then I was directed to check http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/...828997&page=41 for offers as the offers won't appear in the thread any more.
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                                                                  • aslan
                                                                    SBR Rookie
                                                                    • 11-26-08
                                                                    • 15

                                                                    #908
                                                                    "Anyone depositing today and tomorrow, If you are a new account you will get 50% free play or 30% Cash. And any redeposits even if they are up on the house ANY REDEPOSIT will get 20% cash or 40% FP."

                                                                    "Rollover for this offer would normally be 1.5X for every 5% cash or 1X for every 5% FP, but I will make it sweeter if you deposit today rollover cash wil be 1.5X Rollver for every 7.5% cash and 1X rollover for every 7.5% FP.
                                                                    But that is just for today"
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                                                                    • dark star
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 01-04-09
                                                                      • 3900

                                                                      #909
                                                                      I need to hire a mathematician to try & figure this place out
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                                                                      • xyz
                                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                                        • 02-14-08
                                                                        • 521

                                                                        #910
                                                                        Free check payout received in 3 business days Very good job.
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