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  • Chopsticks
    SBR MVP
    • 06-30-09
    • 1057

    #841
    Sorry, I just switched the numbers for the threads and forgot to change the t= to p= in the link... It is the same thread anyway so no worries.
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    • Swede
      SBR Rookie
      • 11-18-09
      • 16

      #842
      I am new to the offshore bookies and wonder if there is anyone els then bet911 that have a optional bonus system? I prefer one when you could like her get a extra half point or add 15% to the winnings.

      Thanks in advance!
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      • In The Zone
        Restricted User
        • 09-06-09
        • 43

        #843
        Remember Fridays--For every 5 straight wagers made in the following sports soccer, football (NCAA), or basketball (wagers can not be on the same team and must be of the amount of 100 or more in what ever currency your account is in) you will receive one FREE straight wager for a max Free Play of 25 in what ever currency your account is in. and if you need me I will be in the office all day everyday, working like a slave for you all , anyone got any chain cutters, so I can escape for a day
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        • Cferrat
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 10-22-07
          • 540

          #844
          Originally posted by Swede
          I am new to the offshore bookies and wonder if there is anyone els then bet911 that have a optional bonus system? I prefer one when you could like her get a extra half point or add 15% to the winnings.

          Thanks in advance!
          Its difficult to find a sportsbook with the options that you get at Bet911...and you will be hard pressed to find anywhere where you will get the kind of service that you get here as well...so go for it and you will be happy here for sure!
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          • Cferrat
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 10-22-07
            • 540

            #845
            Originally posted by aslan
            Whatever happened to Carl?
            Carl is here and I am glad to stand behind Bet911, nothing has changed with them, other than I have moved on to a different type of work..so no worries Aslan, I ahve always maintained a high regard for integrity and honesty and that has not changed , believe me that if something was a miss in the company I would tell you all..you put your trust in me and I will not let you down...
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            • Cferrat
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 10-22-07
              • 540

              #846
              Like Robert says today you get the sixpack and its a great value for all of you that place wagers of this type and for those that place smaller wagers we do 5x50to get an extra 10 so theres something for everyone here at Bet911...
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              • In The Zone
                Restricted User
                • 09-06-09
                • 43

                #847
                As everyone knows my business is keeping people happy while at the same time getting people to deposit and you know I am horrible at this fourm stuff, that is why carl is #1 and I am #2. Well thats what they say anyway!

                During the course of the year about once a week I will put a special deposit bonus for those looking for something better, when the norm is not good enough. Like for example: For today only anyone depositing 1000 I will give an extra 5% FP and deposit 1500-2000 get an extra 10%.

                Now tell me who is #1 me or Carl
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                • ucbearcats1027
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 01-05-09
                  • 903

                  #848
                  wow not a extra 5%!!!! o my gosh so so crazy. Not. You business is no good without carl. have fun failing
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                  • In The Zone
                    Restricted User
                    • 09-06-09
                    • 43

                    #849
                    Originally posted by ucbearcats1027
                    wow not a extra 5%!!!! o my gosh so so crazy. Not. You business is no good without carl. have fun failing
                    Well an extra 5% might not seem like much, but it is better than nothing. If you are on the normal juice you would get getting a total of 15% cash now for a reload that is something and if you were a new account you would be getting 25% cash. And remember if you dont like that and would prefer free play for a reload you would of gotten 25% FP an d a new account would of gotten 50% FP. Failing!
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                    • In The Zone
                      Restricted User
                      • 09-06-09
                      • 43

                      #850
                      Will I didnt offer anything out of the usual today and NFL is tomorrow. We will be very busy so I am going to post this now. Anyone depositing before the 1:00pm Eastern games will get a Free Play bonus, if you are reduced juice lets say 10% extra fp (rollover will apply) and if your on normal juice lets say 15% extra fp (rollover will apply) only cause I love the NFL!!!
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                      • In The Zone
                        Restricted User
                        • 09-06-09
                        • 43

                        #851
                        Well now that early bonus is over with up until the 4pm eastern NY time games start I will offer an extra 5% cash for reduced (rollover applies) and an extra 10% cash for normal juice (rollover applies) on any deposit of 250 or more.
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                        • In The Zone
                          Restricted User
                          • 09-06-09
                          • 43

                          #852
                          Remember today is monday and you get 5%FP extra on any deposit, no wait lets make it 10% cash I hit a 4 team parlay over the weekend , well yesterday and I am feeling so of happy about that. So lets change this Monday bonus to 10% cash (rollover applies)
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                          • In The Zone
                            Restricted User
                            • 09-06-09
                            • 43

                            #853
                            Or you can have this promo

                            Anyone who deposits this week reduced or normal juice will get their normal bonus and if you happen to lose, at that time give me a hollar and I will add 20% more in cash to your account of your last deposit if it was made this week only

                            your choice
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                            • Cferrat
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 10-22-07
                              • 540

                              #854
                              Just thought I would drop in to say hello to all of you...and wish you a great holiday season....cheers!
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                              • Cferrat
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 10-22-07
                                • 540

                                #855
                                They are doing a lot of good things at Bet911 for the players and I hope that you all can take advantage of these great offers!
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                                • Cferrat
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 10-22-07
                                  • 540

                                  #856
                                  Originally posted by In The Zone
                                  Or you can have this promo

                                  Anyone who deposits this week reduced or normal juice will get their normal bonus and if you happen to lose, at that time give me a hollar and I will add 20% more in cash to your account of your last deposit if it was made this week only

                                  your choice
                                  I especially like this bonus since its for those who have had a bad run and it allows you to get an extra 20% cash ....now thats a nice deal....!
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                                  • mazdaq100
                                    SBR Rookie
                                    • 10-21-05
                                    • 3

                                    #857
                                    Withdrew £1,225 today back to Moneybookers, processed in a couple of hours. Excellent.
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                                    • In The Zone
                                      Restricted User
                                      • 09-06-09
                                      • 43

                                      #858
                                      Originally posted by mazdaq100
                                      Withdrew £1,225 today back to Moneybookers, processed in a couple of hours. Excellent.

                                      We try to be as quick as possible and maintain our fast payout services, glad your happy
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                                      • aslan
                                        SBR Rookie
                                        • 11-26-08
                                        • 15

                                        #859
                                        just a quick note. payout fees for GBP accounts are now 35GBP rather than the GBP equivalent of 35USD as it always used to be.

                                        apparently i am lucky that i was not charged the right amount before despite carl and vanessa repeatedly confirming it should be the GBP equivalent in the past.

                                        gosh i feel so lucky
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                                        • Chopsticks
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 06-30-09
                                          • 1057

                                          #860
                                          Did you not use the free payout as it is a monday, or have you already had a withdrawal from them in the past 30 days?

                                          Anyway that sounds a bit shady. A ~$58 fee for a max £1500 (?) withdrawal is a bit high, especially if we are talking moneybookers. Looks like things are different now that there is a new sheriff in town. Fees are massivly increased and the sixpack no longer counts towards the rollover requirement.

                                          Come back Carl!
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                                          • Keith Richard
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 07-06-06
                                            • 1576

                                            #861
                                            Originally posted by mazdaq100
                                            Withdrew £1,225 today back to Moneybookers, processed in a couple of hours. Excellent.
                                            Maybe WSEX should ask 911 for some advice on how to keep customers happy with speedy withdrawals?
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                                            • Dunder
                                              Restricted User
                                              • 10-26-09
                                              • 3345

                                              #862
                                              Originally posted by aslan
                                              just a quick note. payout fees for GBP accounts are now 35GBP rather than the GBP equivalent of 35USD as it always used to be.

                                              apparently i am lucky that i was not charged the right amount before despite carl and vanessa repeatedly confirming it should be the GBP equivalent in the past.

                                              gosh i feel so lucky
                                              According to their website the charge should be USD 35. Another case of a bookie doing whatever it feels like?

                                              Isn´t it the case that one free withdrawal is allowed per month (for Neteller and Moneybookers)? That is also sated on their website.

                                              I still haven´t had the time (or inclination really) to pick my way through all the Bet911 Ts and Cs, and if they think they are going to be charging me GBP 35 to get MY money, I won´t be any time soon.
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                                              • Toit
                                                SBR Sharp
                                                • 03-10-09
                                                • 451

                                                #863
                                                Lol, 35GBP for a withdrawal?
                                                That's insane!

                                                A normal Moneybookers transfer is something like 50p, don't know how much the fee for a business account is, but it can't be anywhere near that amount.
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                                                • In The Zone
                                                  Restricted User
                                                  • 09-06-09
                                                  • 43

                                                  #864
                                                  Originally posted by aslan
                                                  just a quick note. payout fees for GBP accounts are now 35GBP rather than the GBP equivalent of 35USD as it always used to be.

                                                  apparently i am lucky that i was not charged the right amount before despite carl and vanessa repeatedly confirming it should be the GBP equivalent in the past.

                                                  gosh i feel so lucky

                                                  True but not true, It is like this for a withdrawal of 50-500 fees are 15 / for a withdrawal of 501-1000 fees are 25 and for a withdrawal of 1001-1500 fees are 35 in the same currency that your account is in.
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                                                  • In The Zone
                                                    Restricted User
                                                    • 09-06-09
                                                    • 43

                                                    #865
                                                    Originally posted by Chopsticks
                                                    Did you not use the free payout as it is a monday, or have you already had a withdrawal from them in the past 30 days?

                                                    Anyway that sounds a bit shady. A ~$58 fee for a max £1500 (?) withdrawal is a bit high, especially if we are talking moneybookers. Looks like things are different now that there is a new sheriff in town. Fees are massivly increased and the sixpack no longer counts towards the rollover requirement.

                                                    Come back Carl!
                                                    It is not that they are different it is the way that they were suppose to be from the start. The old sheriff was just losing his memory and forgot alot of things and there is new sheriff with a better memory. But you all know if you are law abiding and peaceful we can always come to an agreement.
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                                                    • In The Zone
                                                      Restricted User
                                                      • 09-06-09
                                                      • 43

                                                      #866
                                                      Originally posted by Keith Richard
                                                      Maybe WSEX should ask 911 for some advice on how to keep customers happy with speedy withdrawals?
                                                      I just have to ask what is WSEX, I might regret this one
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                                                      • In The Zone
                                                        Restricted User
                                                        • 09-06-09
                                                        • 43

                                                        #867
                                                        Originally posted by Dunder
                                                        According to their website the charge should be USD 35. Another case of a bookie doing whatever it feels like?

                                                        Isn´t it the case that one free withdrawal is allowed per month (for Neteller and Moneybookers)? That is also sated on their website.

                                                        I still haven´t had the time (or inclination really) to pick my way through all the Bet911 Ts and Cs, and if they think they are going to be charging me GBP 35 to get MY money, I won´t be any time soon.
                                                        And according to the website it is $35 for $1500 withdrawal, but if your withdrawing 1500 GBP do you honestly think it should be the same?
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                                                        • In The Zone
                                                          Restricted User
                                                          • 09-06-09
                                                          • 43

                                                          #868
                                                          Originally posted by Toit
                                                          Lol, 35GBP for a withdrawal?
                                                          That's insane!

                                                          A normal Moneybookers transfer is something like 50p, don't know how much the fee for a business account is, but it can't be anywhere near that amount.
                                                          OK, let me run this down to you so you all know just exactly what the accountant Julie has to go through just to get one payout to one person.

                                                          1. She has to look at your account and see if you have the funds
                                                          2. She then has to make sure that you have no bets pending
                                                          3. She then has to see just exactly what kind of bonus you got on your last deposit
                                                          4. She then has to go and copy all of your plays down and figure out the rollover. Now this means that she has to look at each and every play that you have made and make sure that they were not part of a promotion. Once done she sums it all up if you made the rollover you get paid.
                                                          5. She then has to do the paper work so that your withdrawal can be processed. Without it you dont get paid.
                                                          6. She delivers that to the payouts department and then they have to process it and verify all the information again. We always double check here.
                                                          And finally you get paid.

                                                          A very long and drawan out process just for one withdrawal and that is why there are fees on the administration end.
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                                                          • Dunder
                                                            Restricted User
                                                            • 10-26-09
                                                            • 3345

                                                            #869
                                                            Originally posted by In The Zone
                                                            And according to the website it is $35 for $1500 withdrawal, but if your withdrawing 1500 GBP do you honestly think it should be the same?
                                                            Your competitors offer this service to me for free. Of those that do charge (which I tend not to use, except in special circumstances) none of them charge anything like GBP 35 (nearly USD 60) for a withdrawal.

                                                            I do understand that you offer a free withdrawal up to USD 1500 per month (can you confirm that this still applies?) but that limit is too low to be of interest to me.
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                                                            • Chopsticks
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 06-30-09
                                                              • 1057

                                                              #870
                                                              There is a free withdrawal every month, and to most that should be enough unless you are über paranoid about keeping money with bet911. In which case you should probably stop playing there and head over to pinnacle, bookmaker, matchbook or the likes.

                                                              But my gripe is that this fee information for accounts in other currencies have not been available to us in the past. Obviously this is an oversight issue, and according to new Sheriff, Carl is partly to blame for this. I can totally understand that fees are higher for higher withdrawals, but at the same time I understand why someone feels they are unfairly treated when they introduce new fees.

                                                              But after reviewing the maths on the matter it is actually fair. Bear with me on this. Right now £1500 (max transaction on withdrawals) is $2487, so let's call it $2500 even.

                                                              This is a scenario where a player has a $2500 balance. He has already used his free payout for the month, but needs $2500 to buy more paper towels (or whatever )

                                                              First he requests $1500 to moneybookers. He has to pay a $35 fee.
                                                              Then he request $1000 to moneybookers, he has to pay a $25 fee.
                                                              Total fees paid: $35 + $25 = $60

                                                              Now for a withdrawal of £1500. This withdrawal can be done in one transaction (unless changed!)..
                                                              He withdraws £1500 to moneybookers, for this he has to pay £35, or about $58.
                                                              Total fees paid: $58

                                                              So it is actually a fair fee. And if you take in to account that the player with a £GBP or €Eur account can withdraw £/€1500 per month for free, then he would actually pay less fees because the € and £ is worth more than the $.

                                                              To put this in to perspective:
                                                              £1500 is worth $2487. The player can use his one free withdrawal p/m to get this money without fees.
                                                              $1500 is worth $1500. The player can use his one free withdrawal p/m to get this money without fees.

                                                              So obviously players with GBP accounts pay less fees than players that have accounts in different currencies.


                                                              My gripe though is that this information was not available on the site. I hope that Bet911 updates the site asap to reflect these changes.

                                                              It is also a nice touch that they now operate with fees that are substantially lower if you request a small payout, whereas back in august (?) I think they operated with a flat $35 fee, Great job on that!
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                                                              • Vince Lombardi
                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                • 11-23-08
                                                                • 841

                                                                #871
                                                                Originally posted by Cferrat
                                                                Hey guys don't forget no one else will give 100% (freeplay)on your first deposit (upto $100) to try them Bet911 will......

                                                                Several other books will. The number of times you have to rollover the money is the catch. Some require 7 or 8 and I've seen some up to 15. Some books have a 30 to 60 day hold also.
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                                                                • icsky3
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 04-14-07
                                                                  • 1700

                                                                  #872
                                                                  Junk book.
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                                                                  • Dunder
                                                                    Restricted User
                                                                    • 10-26-09
                                                                    • 3345

                                                                    #873
                                                                    Originally posted by In The Zone
                                                                    OK, let me run this down to you so you all know just exactly what the accountant Julie has to go through just to get one payout to one person.

                                                                    1. She has to look at your account and see if you have the funds
                                                                    2. She then has to make sure that you have no bets pending
                                                                    3. She then has to see just exactly what kind of bonus you got on your last deposit
                                                                    4. She then has to go and copy all of your plays down and figure out the rollover. Now this means that she has to look at each and every play that you have made and make sure that they were not part of a promotion. Once done she sums it all up if you made the rollover you get paid.
                                                                    5. She then has to do the paper work so that your withdrawal can be processed. Without it you dont get paid.
                                                                    6. She delivers that to the payouts department and then they have to process it and verify all the information again. We always double check here.
                                                                    And finally you get paid.

                                                                    A very long and drawan out process just for one withdrawal and that is why there are fees on the administration end.
                                                                    So to cut a long story short. You have inefficient software and an overly complex bonus structure which results in the need for manual checking and processing of every payout request.

                                                                    Just as a matter of interest, does it take Julie longer to process a GBP 1500 withdrawal than one for USD 1500?

                                                                    Can you also confirm that there is in fact one free withdrawal per 30 days (max. USD 1500) as stated on you website (and as mentioned by chopsticks above).
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                                                                    • In The Zone
                                                                      Restricted User
                                                                      • 09-06-09
                                                                      • 43

                                                                      #874
                                                                      Originally posted by Dunder
                                                                      Your competitors offer this service to me for free. Of those that do charge (which I tend not to use, except in special circumstances) none of them charge anything like GBP 35 (nearly USD 60) for a withdrawal.

                                                                      I do understand that you offer a free withdrawal up to USD 1500 per month (can you confirm that this still applies?) but that limit is too low to be of interest to me.
                                                                      Yes we do offer a free withdrawal once a month and you have to request it on a Monday morning.
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                                                                      • Dunder
                                                                        Restricted User
                                                                        • 10-26-09
                                                                        • 3345

                                                                        #875
                                                                        Originally posted by Chopsticks
                                                                        There is a free withdrawal every month, and to most that should be enough unless you are über paranoid about keeping money with bet911. In which case you should probably stop playing there and head over to pinnacle, bookmaker, matchbook or the likes.

                                                                        But my gripe is that this fee information for accounts in other currencies have not been available to us in the past. Obviously this is an oversight issue, and according to new Sheriff, Carl is partly to blame for this. I can totally understand that fees are higher for higher withdrawals, but at the same time I understand why someone feels they are unfairly treated when they introduce new fees.

                                                                        But after reviewing the maths on the matter it is actually fair. Bear with me on this. Right now £1500 (max transaction on withdrawals) is $2487, so let's call it $2500 even.

                                                                        This is a scenario where a player has a $2500 balance. He has already used his free payout for the month, but needs $2500 to buy more paper towels (or whatever )

                                                                        First he requests $1500 to moneybookers. He has to pay a $35 fee.
                                                                        Then he request $1000 to moneybookers, he has to pay a $25 fee.
                                                                        Total fees paid: $35 + $25 = $60

                                                                        Now for a withdrawal of £1500. This withdrawal can be done in one transaction (unless changed!)..
                                                                        He withdraws £1500 to moneybookers, for this he has to pay £35, or about $58.
                                                                        Total fees paid: $58

                                                                        So it is actually a fair fee. And if you take in to account that the player with a £GBP or €Eur account can withdraw £/€1500 per month for free, then he would actually pay less fees because the € and £ is worth more than the $.

                                                                        To put this in to perspective:
                                                                        £1500 is worth $2487. The player can use his one free withdrawal p/m to get this money without fees.
                                                                        $1500 is worth $1500. The player can use his one free withdrawal p/m to get this money without fees.

                                                                        So obviously players with GBP accounts pay less fees than players that have accounts in different currencies.


                                                                        My gripe though is that this information was not available on the site. I hope that Bet911 updates the site asap to reflect these changes.

                                                                        It is also a nice touch that they now operate with fees that are substantially lower if you request a small payout, whereas back in august (?) I think they operated with a flat $35 fee, Great job on that!
                                                                        I don´t dispute anything you have said, neither do I dispute that Bet911 has the right to charge whatever fees they feel are appropriate (as long as those fees are as stated, of course).

                                                                        Try doing the same calculation on the basis of being lucky/smart enough to run up a balance of GBP 10k or USD 10k, however and it becomes hideously expensive your hands on your own money.
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