Problem with 5Dimes' Tony - robbed of $3600 in winnings

[winz]

just nervous to play at 5dimes now...who knows what kind of shenanigans they are capable of if you win any type of real money...not worth the headache when there are plenty of reputable books.

[HuskerExpat]

Where is the proof that 5Dimes donated the winnings to charity as they claimed they wanted to do to prove their good faith? I bet we'll be waiting a long time for that....

[winz]

donating winnings forcibly to a charity doesnt solve anything.

[HuskerExpat]

donating winnings forcibly to a charity doesnt solve anything.

Agreed, it doesn't solve anything. But failure to do so after they said they would does prove something....

[winz]

yes it would prove that they know it was a valid bet and they stole the money...but if they insist on going that route they should be forced to donate 10X the amount to a charity of the players choosing....since supposedly they are a solvent muti million dollar book and its a principle issue.

[trytrytry]

Regardless what do you think of the situation that led up to this?

What a coincidence. Guy A. wagers on certain markets...and gets limited.. Withdraws via Bitcoin.

Guy B. suddenly creates an account, deposits with Bitcoin, wagers on the same markets (no longer limited due to new account), and gets caught. Oh and he just happened to wager from the same device Guy A. got limited from.

Yeah.. CALL ME CRAZY but something tells me there was shady crap going on here and I have no sympathy. How come we never hear of a case of clear "theft" from 5Dimes. Oh that's right, because it doesn't happen.

Do shady crap and don't complain when you get caught. I have no sympathy for these fools. Thank God for technology because this guy had no idea it could be tracked to the same device.

what I think is good for 5dimes to get a new customer with little marketing and hassle. they beg persons to refer friends and colleagues. they have no rules that says dont use bitcoins if a person you know cashed out in bitcoins in the last 30 days. they do not say anything about not calling in to sign up for an account with help from a buddy or friend (in fact they want you do do just that).

this is a slam dunk Robbery.

if you have no sympathy thats fine but call it what it is robbery.

now pay the player

[Optional]

according to Idiot MODS here it happens all the time in Europe! LOL

Lucky you called me an idiot instead of a liar.

As we both know which one of us is proven of that, asshole.

[SBR Forum]

5Dimes has donated $7,200 — twice the amount of the circumvented limit — to the Make A Wish Foundation, through the same charity fundraiser that SBR Forum posters have raised over $10,000 for in 2015 alone.

Proof of donations:

[trytrytry]

Lucky you called me an idiot instead of a liar.

As we both know which one of us is proven of that, asshole.

ok Mr Europe LOL

here is 3 points buy yourself a clue

[relaaxx]

the donation is great. too bad they paid the op anything more would have went to this great charity.

[Optional]

ok Mr Europe LOL

here is 3 points buy yourself a clue

Says the idiot making foolish ill-informed statements.

You may not like what I told you but it is the full truth. Obviously it was a waste trying to show you the respect to explain all I could not here.

[HuskerExpat]

5Dimes has donated $7,200 — twice the amount of the circumvented limit — to the Make A Wish Foundation, through the same charity fundraisier that SBR Forum posters have raised over $10,000 for in 2015 alone.

Proof of donations:

I give them credit for doing what they said, though they did apparently wait until someone called them on it.

Still think they free rolled the OP, but am glad that they didn't profit from it.

[Jetsfan]

I give them credit for doing what they said, though they did apparently wait until someone called them on it.

Still think they free rolled the OP, but am glad that they didn't profit from it.

Eh if you believe that I can understand why you side with the OP.....you lack common sense. Pretty sure an international company has some logistics to figure donating to a US charity which from what I can tell only accepts US funding methods.

Good for 5dimes helping out children on account of a rule violator. Lesson for anyone thinking of cheating.

[HuskerExpat]

Eh if you believe that I can understand why you side with the OP.....you lack common sense. Pretty sure an international company has some logistics to figure donating to a US charity which from what I can tell only accepts US funding methods.

Good for 5dimes helping out children on account of a rule violator. Lesson for anyone thinking of cheating.

Right. The post that they would donate the money was, what, two days ago? Then I make a post that they didn't honor their commitment and less than an hour later they make a donation. Who's the naive one?

[Jetsfan]

Right. The post that they would donate the money was, what, two days ago? Then I make a post that they didn't honor their commitment and less than an hour later they make a donation. Who's the naive one?

Oh, my bad. I didn't realize you made a post. That changes my perspective since you're just so terribly important. Will you make a post and change the world next?

[HuskerExpat]

Oh, my bad. I didn't realize you made a post. That changes my perspective since you're just so terribly important. Will you make a post and change the world next?

Hey idiot. It wasn't me making a post that is the relevant point. It is that a post was made by anyone, two days after there was a promise to donate and then an hour later they make a deposit. Pretty f-ing coincidental if the two events were entirely unrelated. And since this thread pretty much establishes that 5Dimes doesn't believe in coincidences (e.g. 5Dimes believes using your friend's device to open an account is too coincidental to be anything but proof of a multiple account) we have enough evidence to prove the causation.

[relaaxx]

i don't remember reading that 5dimes ever stated that they definitely would donating anything. i think it was SBR that said that they were even thinking about making a donation.

you try to make it sound like they said they would donate then did not until you are someone else called them on it.

[HuskerExpat]

We have seen this kind of thing a lot back in the day. It is usually called the "household rule" and it usually involves a bonus or gettin in a promo. You would find that a family chased a bonus and bet against each others sides. Those were the easy ones. Recently IPs alone havent been enough because of the way tech has evolved. There are hotspots, cell towers etc.

In this case its hard to argue for the player. Ignoring the timeline, payment method and max betting, 5D states they have bets placed by player A on same IP on 9/19 as player B's registration and his single winning bet. They also used the same device. Even still we would like to see the player get paid here so the book's dont stand to benefit even from shot-takers. 5Dimes held firm saying they dont want people who dont play by the rules to benefit. They did offer to pay a charity in the amount in question and provide proof here that they also didnt benefit from this.

Their offer to donate.

[Miavia]

5Dimes has donated $7,200 — twice the amount of the circumvented limit — to the Make A Wish Foundation, through the same charity fundraiser that SBR Forum posters have raised over $10,000 for in 2015 alone.

Proof of donations:

If no one had inquired about 5 dimes donations...I wonder if they would have done it on their own...But give them credit for actually making the donations...

[winz]

great its like getting mugged in the street...cops catch the guy....and the court gives your money to charity instead of returning it to you....guess we are gambling to donate to charity now.....what a joke

[relaaxx]

if you offer something it's hasn't been done yet. i see the offer. maybe it should have happened sooner. but they offered and they did it. still don't believe for a second it was because of anyone's post here to call them on it. they offered to make the donation. just a matter of time. when you make an offer someone excepts it. it's not a done deal just because you make an offer. who excepted the offer. SBR the posters here.

what difference does it make. just glad to see the donation

[chance]

Can SBR now donate all of the money (points) they have confiscated from posters for using the same IP as another poster?

How much have you taken off posters SBR?

[trytrytry]

Something we all agree on Such an important charity MAKE a WISH Foundation that thankfully despite some of our poster differences over the days and years (we all do have egos that are hard to set aside at times I know I do do do) the community here has supported this Charity so well, and SBR provides a great interface to donate easily, fund-raise and allow SBR PROS with earned points to donate and support or even renew. Special aspect of this form that no other forum has, the consistent giving back...Everyone seems to treat the Charity and the Donation page with respect and never for self serving interests...

[shaunovery]

Glad someone has come out better in all this

MAKE A WISH DONATION

[GigaOuts]

Bravo 5dimes! but where the $2400 number come from? I thought op claims $3600 was stolen.
I think that's the end of it! Hope op is a rich guys, $3600 in bitcoin likely worth lot more now if he allow to cashout in the 1st place.

[yisman]

Bravo 5dimes! but where the $2400 number come from? I thought op claims $3600 was stolen.
I think that's the end of it! Hope op is a rich guys, $3600 in bitcoin likely worth lot more now if he allow to cashout in the 1st place.

2400*3=7200 or double the 3600

I'm not sure why it was 3 donations of 2400, I'm sure there's a reason.

[winz]

here is the summary...5dimes...pure scumbags...thieves....sbr supposedly exists to protect players from scumbag books...fail.

[Brooklyn Dick]

You take a bet, you pay a bet........................

[bigballa]

can you make donations to charities using your betpoints??? cant see where it is that you do it on the site....

[shopp]

Don't let the charity donation cloud the point of the thread. 5 dimes stole from the player unless someone proves that the player is related to billy Walters, lol.

Taking a shot betting an NFL side??? Can't wait for the next reason 5 dimes comes up with for the next theft! They are getting creative...

[GigaOuts]

2400*3=7200 or double the 3600

I'm not sure why it was 3 donations of 2400, I'm sure there's a reason.

Oh I see, I thought they give 2x what they confiscate, plus the original winning. So it would be $3600 x3 since they are a multi millions dollar company but I did suggest double the donation in earlier post....my bad! I like what other suggest after me - 10x ....lol.

[GuybrushT]

just nervous to play at 5dimes now...who knows what kind of shenanigans they are capable of if you win any type of real money...not worth the headache when there are plenty of reputable books.

I've witdrawn all my balance 2 weeks ago, exactly because of this idiot called Tony. I've read the 5dimes rules and terms, and they are basicaly saying "if we decide we will not pay you, we will not". They can invent ANYTHING! You can play on a good odd, win it, continue winning with the earnings of the first bet, and then Tony can say "that first bet was an error, all your later winnings were stolen from us". As he has done in the past.

I prefer placing big bets at Pinnacle and sleep quietly, then win at 5dimes and be scared all the time if I will get my money when I decide to ask a payout.

[Nittany Lion]

I haven't read the whole thread just the OP and a few posts, even if the OP is lying and this wasn't his friend's iPad and they were the same person it shouldn't matter...... the OP deposited $4,800 to his 5Dimes account using BTC which is a non refundable deposit method (the same I use for 5Dimes), it's not like you can do a charge back using BTC. The OP made a bet for $4,500 that won, if the bet was made on a good line then 5Dimes should PAY IT! The whole point of a Sportsbook is to take bets and when people legitimately win, you're suppose to pay out. The OP did nothing wrong.

I play at 5Dimes but I'm just small time, I deposit a few hundred $$$ every football season and goof around with parlays and teasers. Stories like this are why I would never play big time at 5Dimes, this Tony guy that works at 5Dimes is a real character. I thought 5Dimes was a huge book with tons of players, can they really not pay out a decent valid bet because they think the guy that made the bet is the same one they limited on a different 5Dimes account??????

This is definitely a black eye for 5Dimes, thought they could be trusted.

[gauchojake]

How do you think they pay for the reduced juice?

[aortega521]

They are scum..... but SBR and a few of their mods (not all), are in bed with them giving the a blow pop