SBR MODS I need your help. 5D/Tony are criminals!

**Optional** · 01-29-14, 05:41 PM

Originally posted by JayMoney24_7

When your credit is excellent and you have never had a chargbk in your life on your account, your cc takes up for you for being an honest cardholder. If you like to bow down to another man that is your choice. Like I said in the previous post, everyone is allowed to go about their decisions differently. I refuse to admit to being wrong when I'm not. To each their own.

And you want to throw that 'honest' reputation away over this?

Your bank won't let you charge it back anyway imho.

And you'll still end up on both the banks and his database as someone who has attempted a charge-back.

Noseless I tells ya, You'll be noseless!

Originally posted by JayMoney24_7

Since we're throwing people in a box and generalizing based on previous experience, I won't bother responding to an obvious troll and judgemental scumbag. Enjoy your day buddy.

Way to show just how reasonable you are. Idiot.

**JayMoney24_7** · 01-29-14, 05:42 PM

Originally posted by tb1984

You posted that in your thread http://forum.sbrforum.com/players-ta...ut-thread.html
You lost your bankroll on the 01/20/14.

That's one of the reason that I want you to post your deposit. From the 01/20 - 01/23, you did not put in any bets. Then, on the 01/24, you saw this opportunity for past-posting, you made the deposit.

This is futile for me to keep going. If you read the thread and not just jumped in last minute that's already been addressed. Saturday had a lot of good fights coming up, both UFC and boxing. Fight sports are my weakness when it comes to resisting being compulsive. I already said all this. There will continue to be new people in the thread who don't bother going back. I can't stay here forever answering the same questions over and over. Deposit was originally intended for Saturdays fights. Deposit was made on Friday afternoon or evening. Don't remember the time. While looking over the fights for Saturday, I noticed there were fights scheduled for friday. I recognized a name of a fighter. I like the bet, but since he was the favorite the price was too high on the fighter. When that happens I take a look at props and take my chances with an outcome I find to my liking. I have been watching boxing for a long time. I know how Bundrage fights. I won the bet because I got it right. Unfortunately it was later learned that the fight was over before making my pick. I didn't fight about it because I didn't watch the fight and have no idea on what happened so I can't argue with the man who claims to be speaking with facts. I offer to have the bets voided to be fair. All else ensues. I don't see what the problem is. And since I know it will be your next question, I never cashed out. I ended up giving it back before getting it.

you know what, let me try to see if there is anything with my deposit time available to get this request done with. I don't have nothing to hide. Give me a few moments to see if I can find anything in my emails.

**allabout the $$$** · 01-29-14, 05:43 PM

Originally posted by capone1899

You're a freaking moron. Just because a line is up it mean the fight hasn't started... get the f out of here! If you had the IQ of more than a rock you might think to turn the fight on to see if it had started yet. NO ONE believes your BS. You tried to bet past post and got caught.
Now pull your panties up and go admit it to 5dimes so you can get your money back....or be a little bitch and try to do a charge back .

if he was at work as he says how could he turn on the fight?

normally if a book has a line up it means that the fight hasnt started yet

if a basketball game line is still up past posted time is it possible the game got started later or was delayed for some reason??? you must be a fukkin moron

**sourtwist** · 01-29-14, 05:43 PM

Originally posted by shari91

You might be proud to be an American - as I am - but you're setting yourself to be so hooped you'll never bet again. You think you're trying to be clever but I promise you're f'ng yourself. Take the refund of those bets and don't be silly unless you now want to be the kid who is blackballed everywhere and can't gamble again. Don't believe it? Do a search.

This is a load of.........use your imagination.

I had a problem with a prominent book and did a c harge ba k. Book screwed me and I had no recourse. It was the only available option for me. I've continued at my other books without issue.

**capone1899** · 01-29-14, 05:46 PM

And all you whiners that complain about Tony must be losing players because I cant think of a better way to stick it to someone you hate than to take them for a big chunk of money. Obviously none of you complaining are winners ,because if you were, it wouldn't be a favor to Tony that you're playing there

**sourtwist** · 01-29-14, 05:46 PM

Jay, there's no help here for you. Do what you have to do. These clowns need to get off your nuts, and you need to move on.

Only issue I can foresee is other books only letting you make cash deposits.

**allabout the $$$** · 01-29-14, 05:48 PM

Originally posted by capone1899

And all you whiners that complain about Tony must be losing players because I cant think of a better way to stick it to someone you hate than to take them for a big chunk of money. Obviously none of you complaining are winners ,because if you were, it wouldn't be a favor to Tony that you're playing there

never played at 5 dimes pal.

**capone1899** · 01-29-14, 05:48 PM

Originally posted by allabout the $$$

if he was at work as he says how could he turn on the fight?

normally if a book has a line up it means that the fight hasnt started yet

if a basketball game line is still up past posted time is it possible the game got started later or was delayed for some reason??? you must be a fukkin moron

Give me a break loser. In this day don't tell me that he couldn't have found out if the fight had started or not. A 10 second check of twitter could have told him that

**blacktownjames** · 01-29-14, 05:50 PM

Wow nothing else to say. Think it is time to move on

**bostonboss** · 01-29-14, 05:50 PM

Originally posted by capone1899

Give me a break loser. In this day don't tell me that he couldn't have found out if the fight had started or not. A 10 second check of twitter could have told him that

this coming from a guy who wagered under his wife's name and committed fraud and whined to sbr about not being paid....unfortunately the book paid this scammer

**allabout the $$$** · 01-29-14, 05:52 PM

Originally posted by capone1899

Give me a break loser. In this day don't tell me that he couldn't have found out if the fight had started or not. A 10 second check of twitter could have told him that

or 5 dimes taking the line down when the fight started would be the easiest way to accomplish this. so i guess 5 dimes in your opinion has no fault here?

**tb1984** · 01-29-14, 05:52 PM

Jay, does you job need a computer?

**sourtwist** · 01-29-14, 05:53 PM

Originally posted by Optional

And you want to throw that 'honest' reputation away over this?

Your bank won't let you charge it back anyway imho.

And you'll still end up on both the banks and his database as someone who has attempted a charge-back.

Noseless I tells ya, You'll be noseless!

Way to show just how reasonable you are. Idiot.

Guy has been pretty calm whole listening to you monkeys ripping into him. I am amused at how our peers tend to side against each other while giving the book the benefit of the doubt.

To put it simply, it is the books responsibility to make sure that they do not allow wagers to be processed after a match has started.

**JayMoney24_7** · 01-29-14, 05:53 PM

Originally posted by capone1899

Give me a break loser. In this day don't tell me that he couldn't have found out if the fight had started or not. A 10 second check of twitter could have told him that

Do you research every event before betting? If so good for you. I don't always have the time. With that said everyone who doubts and trolls me will continue, everyone who showed support thank you. Relaxx you're the man! I'm done with this thread. Mods you can close it.

**capone1899** · 01-29-14, 05:54 PM

Originally posted by allabout the $$$

or 5 dimes taking the line down when the fight started would be the easiest way to accomplish this. so i guess 5 dimes in your opinion has no fault here?

Didn't say that. All the OP has to do is admit the fight could have started and he'd get his money back. I don't think they should keep all his money, but he's acting like there is a zero chance he could have past posted.

**allabout the $$$** · 01-29-14, 05:55 PM

Originally posted by sourtwist

To put it simply, it is the books responsibility to make sure that they do not allow wagers to be processed after a match has started.

this sums it up pretty much just as 5 dimes made a mistake leaving the line up this guy made the mistake of betting into it. do you think if the bet had lost 5 dimes would have refunded his money????

**capone1899** · 01-29-14, 05:56 PM

Originally posted by JayMoney24_7

Do you research every event before betting? If so good for you. I don't always have the time. With that said everyone who doubts and trolls me will continue, everyone who showed support thank you. Relaxx you're the man! I'm done with this thread. Mods you can close it.

Omg, you can't be serious. I'm dying here. Make it stop

**capone1899** · 01-29-14, 05:57 PM

Originally posted by bostonboss

this coming from a guy who wagered under his wife's name and committed fraud and whined to sbr about not being paid....unfortunately the book paid this scammer

Go figure out what a dividend is moron. Have fun working at your mom and dad's gas station

**JayMoney24_7** · 01-29-14, 05:58 PM

Originally posted by tb1984

Jay, does you job need a computer?

Yes running on linux, with no internet available for regular browsing, with a proprietary software running with a million collection calls you have to make and collect on. Weekends are our crunch time as we have to close #'s. i sit right behind my boss as I am an assistant manager in charge of the credit dept. aka the busiest guy in the building. During the week it is sometimes lax. For real though sorry guys I have to go. I can't entertain this thread anymore. A lot of smart people on here have told me to just bounce and don't worry about responding, but I'm too dumb to follow through. Respect and peace to everybody. I don't want to fight anymore. No point. Have a good day. Sorry if I offended anyone.

**bostonboss** · 01-29-14, 06:01 PM

Originally posted by capone1899

Go figure out what a dividend is moron. Have fun working at your mom and dad's gas station

a dividend is not earned income my parents have been dead for 29yrs....keep grasping scammer

**allabout the $$$** · 01-29-14, 06:05 PM

Originally posted by capone1899

All the OP has to do is admit the fight could have started and he'd get his money back.

no he doesnt have to admit the fight could have started they want him to admit that he knew the result of the fight when he placed the bet BIG DIFFERENCE!

and im pretty sure i read here from sbr john that way back in the beginning of live betting had a quicker feed than the books so he knew the results before the book did and bet it before it was off the board i suppose that wasnt past posting????? (if it wasnt you john my apologies but im pretty sure it was one of the workers here at sbr )

**Optional** · 01-29-14, 06:06 PM

Originally posted by sourtwist

Guy has been pretty calm whole listening to you monkeys ripping into him. I am amused at how our peers tend to side against each other while giving the book the benefit of the doubt.

To put it simply, it is the books responsibility to make sure that they do not allow wagers to be processed after a match has started.

Sure I agree it's the books fault, 100%. They should refund his bets, as they said they would.

He turned into an unreasonable blathering idiot avoiding what he chose to and making different stuff up as he went along. Even in his last post above he changed his story about deposit time.

Then when he gets his way. His money back. He claims he has to beg and admit to something he didn't do to get his money. That email simply says he can talk to Becky and tell her he past posted bets and get his refund. Didn't he past post bets? Won't he even 'admit' to that now?

Guy is a fukkwit. Deserves all the derision he gets.

**Optional** · 01-29-14, 06:09 PM

Who has to beg Tony or admit to anything they didn't do again?

Originally posted by JayMoney24_7

Email from Matt:

We have spoken with 5Dimes management.

All you have to do is connect to live help, request Becky or Tony, acknowledge past-posting, request to be paid your actual balance (not derived from said attempts).

Denying it, trying to keep your account open, engaging in a circus isn’t going to solve anything any quicker. Just own up and be on your way.

Regards,
Matt

**sourtwist** · 01-29-14, 06:24 PM

If he acknowledges past posting, isn't that admitting it was intentional?

**HuskerExpat** · 01-29-14, 06:26 PM

A lot of people jumping in without reading the whole thread. Guy has a bunch of different stories that just don't make sense. The worst is he claimed he always waits to the last minute to bet a fight so he can see the fighters come into the ring and judge if they look confident (or whatever). So that is supposed to explain why he bet last minute in this instance. Except if he did that in this situation, he would have known the fight was over when he bet. Plus, he claims he was at work so he couldn't follow the fight. So why does he write this nonsense about always waiting until the last minute. And that's just one example of his conflicting and nonsensical explanation of the events.

Finally, if he is so innocent and just trying to get what he is due (which is his $1000 deposit and that is all) why does he go about trying to do a c||/\rgeb/\ck on all of his previous deposits which he admits he lost fair and square. Just another example of him taking shot at 5Dimes. He admits to taking a shot in this respect. So why is it so hard for anyone to see he took a shot with a past posted bet.....

**JayMoney24_7** · 01-29-14, 06:26 PM

Originally posted by JayMoney24_7

Email from Matt:

We have spoken with 5Dimes management.

All you have to do is connect to live help, request Becky or Tony, acknowledge past-posting, request to be paid your actual balance (not derived from said attempts).

Denying it, trying to keep your account open, engaging in a circus isn’t going to solve anything any quicker. Just own up and be on your way.

Regards,
Matt

Easy to ignore what you choose to ignore. Add that to every statement thats being made by the mods so far and it's easy to see why I took it to mean what I did. Easy comprehension imo. Also show me where I changed my story about the deposit time. I never posted a time. Trolls gone troll. Tony is that you?

**HuskerExpat** · 01-29-14, 06:29 PM

Originally posted by sourtwist

If he acknowledges past posting, isn't that admitting it was intentional?

Even by his account he bet past posting. He placed the bets 10 to 15 minutes after the listed start time and he was cognizant of that fact at the time of the bet. So he acknowledges a knowing, intentional past post bet. The only thing he doesn't acknowledge is knowing that the fight was in fact already over.

**JayMoney24_7** · 01-29-14, 06:30 PM

Originally posted by HuskerExpat

Even by his account he bet past posting. He placed the bets 10 to 15 minutes after the listed start time and he was cognizant of that fact at the time of the bet. So he acknowledges a knowing, intentional past post bet. The only thing he doesn't acknowledge is knowing that the fight was in fact already over.

This guy has never bet a fight in his life to make such an ignorant statement.

**tb1984** · 01-29-14, 06:32 PM

Jay, so you mostly use your phone to post on SBR?

**blacktownjames** · 01-29-14, 06:35 PM

Jay I hate to break the bad news you are Wasting your time just get your deposit back and move on nothing is going to change.. Just go find another book to play @

**BEANTOWNJIM** · 01-29-14, 06:36 PM

WHY IS JAY ON TRIAL HERE AND NOT TONY FROM 5 DIMES FOR LEAVING LINES UP TO BET IN WICH THEY HAVE NO INTENTION OF HONORING ISNT THAT 5 DIMES TAKING SHOTS AT PLAYERS.

IF 5 DIMES STAFF ISNT SMART ENOUGH TO KNOW WHEN THE FIGHT IS STRTING THEY SHOULD ALL BE FIRED AND SENT BACK TO THE FIELDS IN COSTA RICA TO PICK BABANAS AND WHO THE FU CK IS BECKY AT 5 DIMES IS THIS TONYS HOOKER IN THE OFFICE WHY DOES HE HAVE TO ANSWER TO BECKY

5 DIMES SHOULD BE ON TRIAL HERE NOYT JAY WHY WAS THAT FIGHT STILL ON THE BOARD AFTER THE EVENT STARTED WHO IS IN CHARGE AT THIS SHIT SPORTSBOOK OR WAS IT DONE ON PURPOSE TO STEAL PLAYERS FUNDS

STAY AWAY FROM THIS CORRUPT SPORTSBOOK

**JayMoney24_7** · 01-29-14, 06:37 PM

Originally posted by tb1984

Jay, so you mostly use your phone to post on SBR?

Ipad.

**5Dimes** · 01-29-14, 06:38 PM

4:00PM JAN 19, 2014
5D2076284 makes his last valid wager of $1.25, available balance now zero. Wager loses.

JAN 23, 2014
Washington Post reports "Cornelius Bundrage vs Joey Hernandez" as main event on Fox Sports 1.
At Fantasy Springs Casino, Indio, Calif. (FS1), Cornelius Bundrage vs. Joey Hernandez, 12, IBF junior middleweight eliminator; Antonio Orozco vs. Miguel Angel Huerta, 10, junior welterweights.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/fight-schedule/2014/01/23/c82b5cec-8431-11e3-a273-6ffd9cf9f4ba_story.html

9:08PM EST JAN 24, 2014
Twitter Report puts Bundrage and Hernandez in the ring.

10:00PM EST JAN 24, 2014
Fox Sports 1 coverage of the event begins.

10:03PM EST JAN 24, 2014
Twitter Reports: "K9 Bundrage beat Twinkle Fingers Hernandez by wide decision."

https://twitter.com/BoxingForecast/status/426913184579354624

10:05PM EST JAN 24, 2014
Fox Sports 1 does not list the Bundrage vs Hernandez fight on their list of upcoming fights to be shown.

10:13PM EST JAN 24, 2014
5D2076284 with no activity in the prior 4 days, deposits $500 using plastic. This is the first deposit for 5d2076284 in the year 2014.

10:15PM EST JAN 24, 2014
5D2076284 deposits another $500 using plastic.

10:56PM EST JAN 24, 2014
5D2076284 makes his first "wager" on the event that concluded at least 53 minutes earlier. The limit on the selection was a risk amount of $100.

11:01PM EST JAN 24, 2014
5D2076284 for the first time in his life wagers a 2nd time on the same selection for the limit. At no other time in his wagering history had he ever wagered the maximum on a selection twice.

11:02PM EST JAN 24, 2014
5D2076284 for the first time in his life wagers a 3rd time on the same selection for the limit. At no other time in his wagering history had he ever wagered the maximum on a selection three times.

**HuskerExpat** · 01-29-14, 06:40 PM

Originally posted by HuskerExpat

A lot of people jumping in without reading the whole thread. Guy has a bunch of different stories that just don't make sense. The worst is he claimed he always waits to the last minute to bet a fight so he can see the fighters come into the ring and judge if they look confident (or whatever). So that is supposed to explain why he bet last minute in this instance. Except if he did that in this situation, he would have known the fight was over when he bet. Plus, he claims he was at work so he couldn't follow the fight. So why does he write this nonsense about always waiting until the last minute. And that's just one example of his conflicting and nonsensical explanation of the events.

Finally, if he is so innocent and just trying to get what he is due (which is his $1000 deposit and that is all) why does he go about trying to do a c||/\rgeb/\ck on all of his previous deposits which he admits he lost fair and square. Just another example of him taking shot at 5Dimes. He admits to taking a shot in this respect. So why is it so hard for anyone to see he took a shot with a past posted bet.....

Why won't you answer these points Jay? A better shot taker has a story that makes sense. You don't.

**BEANTOWNJIM** · 01-29-14, 06:41 PM

Who left the line up for wagering what the f uck kind of help are you hiring the people cant even tell what time it is.

5 dimes why are you going after the player check your own management and who is leaving these lines up after the fight starts thats who you should be investigating