Legends Sports player balances to be assumed

**Frisco** · 04-18-13, 05:33 PM

Originally posted by spankie

raydog,

i don't mean to startle you

BUT i heard legends was behind the boston marathon attack.

i would be VERY afraid that they have personal information of SBR posters!

It was just a distraction so they could steal everybody's money.

**acarmelo1** · 04-18-13, 06:18 PM

Originally posted by Frisco

It was just a distraction so they could steal everybody's money.

First. you are making fun a national tragedy.
Second. Legends has never stealed money from anyone, and I am pretty sure players will be able to see their funds in another SB.

**The Kraken** · 04-18-13, 06:43 PM

Originally posted by raydog

not sure what you expect them to know... they, like the rest of the world, they had no clue what was going to happen to legends, nor do they know what bodog is going to do on a daily basis...that company is whack

you guys that are under the impression that these forum owners know what the fukk is going on, are being completely ignorant, unfortunately... sbr doesnt have shit to do with where legends accts go, nor did they have any say so with a book cutting ties with moneybookers

shaunovery, they cut legends money the day the shit hit the fan...

common ray you're smarter than this, gueye.

of course sbr knows which book, they're negotiating this deal and getting a cut.

business is business, raydog

**RonPaul2008** · 04-18-13, 06:54 PM

So....we should be getting this email by tomorrow morning right?

Bookmaker, Heritage, or both!

**raydog** · 04-18-13, 07:26 PM

Originally posted by The Kraken

common ray you're smarter than this, gueye.

of course sbr knows which book, they're negotiating this deal and getting a cut.

business is business, raydog

... i think the us. gov has it all wrong and SBR actually owns Legends... same as obamaismyuncle claims SBR owns Betonline

**bangthebook** · 04-18-13, 07:49 PM

For what its worth I have been in contact with some people down there and as of right now there is no deal in place with any book and it looks like they are going to remain in business. Of course it could change but all the top books we would want them to transfer accounts to are not involved.

**High3rEl3m3nt** · 04-18-13, 07:58 PM

Originally posted by bangthebook

For what its worth I have been in contact with some people down there and as of right now there is no deal in place with any book and it looks like they are going to remain in business. Of course it could change but all the top books we would want them to transfer accounts to are not involved.

Good post, Bang. I wonder if SBR will break the news, or report on what's already known well after it's happened? SBR does not seem to be in the business of news if there's advertising implications.

**fitguy67** · 04-18-13, 08:06 PM

Originally posted by High3rEl3m3nt

... SBR does not seem to be in the business of news if there's advertising implications.

**The Kraken** · 04-18-13, 08:09 PM

Originally posted by raydog

... i think the us. gov has it all wrong and SBR actually owns Legends... same as obamaismyuncle claims SBR owns Betonline

Im not sure what your post has to do with mine, Ray. I don't believe SBR owns Legends, BO, BI or any other book. But if you don't think SBR is ushering this deal, you're not who I thought you were, Dammit!

**fitguy67** · 04-18-13, 08:44 PM

What we have here is...deafening silence by our "watchdog" in the face of a close confluence of a few occurrences (one of them quite major) affecting access to our money...

if SBR brass really "know nothing" (brings to mind Sgt. Schultz on Hogan's Heroes

) of any substance... then they should at least come on and tell us that...rather than let us twist in the wind while getting increasingly suspicious about whose interests SBR really is keen to protect...

no contributions of any import for the last 12 hours to this thread...combined with closing down a thread started to discuss Bodog.ca's immediate removal of a major payment method (i was hoping to eventually get their rep to chime in on that...how does closing down that thread help anyone?)...

**ZetaPsi808** · 04-18-13, 08:51 PM

has sbr said what book will assume legendz's funds?

**raydog** · 04-18-13, 09:30 PM

Originally posted by The Kraken

Im not sure what your post has to do with mine, Ray. I don't believe SBR owns Legends, BO, BI or any other book. But if you don't think SBR is ushering this deal, you're not who I thought you were, Dammit!

i was joking, kraken...(actually that dumbass obamais really thinks sbr owns bol though ) but no, i dont believe sbr has anything to do with anything in this case... just like they had nothing to do with bj and greeks deal to heritage... why would sbr have anything to do with where legends accts. get transferred?

they do not.

bangthebook, its going to be pretty tough for legends to stay in business without a license...

**raydog** · 04-18-13, 09:42 PM

Originally posted by fitguy67

What we have here is...deafening silence by our "watchdog" in the face of a close confluence of a few occurrences (one of them quite major) affecting access to our money...

if SBR brass really "know nothing" (brings to mind Sgt. Schultz on Hogan's Heroes

) of any substance... then they should at least come on and tell us that...rather than let us twist in the wind while getting increasingly suspicious about whose interests SBR really is keen to protect...

no contributions of any import for the last 12 hours to this thread...combined with closing down a thread I started to discuss Bodog.ca's immediate removal of a major payment method (i was hoping to eventually get their rep to chime in on that...how does closing down that thread help anyone?)...

what do you want them to do...post that they are as clueless as everyone else is? for those who think sbr has some sort of hand in what legends is doing, they do not.... there will be some posters who know the deal before sbr...jaysus, legends isnt like BI ... a very very small % of its players are from this forum...when they know something, they will let the forum know...legends has a million other things to worry about right now than a gambling forum and its members... goddamn, you kids need your hands held every step you take around here?

**pavyracer** · 04-18-13, 09:54 PM

What I don't understand is how a thriving book like Legends can't settle accounts after they lost their gaming license. Did the Panamanian government raided their coffers and took all their money away? Just because they don't have a gaming licence anymore it doesn't mean they don't have money to settle accounts.

**High3rEl3m3nt** · 04-18-13, 10:07 PM

Ray,

I still find it entertaining that you believe SBR knows as much as any poster here, and as you hinted, they might even know a little less. Legends would have been demolished if it weren't for forums like SBR. There's nothing about this book that makes it competitive. No overnight lines, late lines, higher than industry averages for W/D's, no reduced juice, and low limits. SBR helped to build Legends and any future deal is likely to include, to some degree, SBR. If you had the Greek, pinnacle, 5dimes, Youwager--JJ's favorite,Bet Islands--obv before they went bust, Heritage, and Legends...which book would you have tossed out of the picture first? If you don't answer Legends, you're dumb as nails. Then throw in all of the other books and it's a miracle this book saw any action. You really should give SBR a little more credit.

**rcene** · 04-18-13, 10:11 PM

Originally posted by spankie

raydog,

i don't mean to startle you

BUT i heard legends was behind the boston marathon attack.

i would be VERY afraid that they have personal information of SBR posters!

**fitguy67** · 04-18-13, 10:11 PM

Originally posted by raydog

what do you want them to do...post that they are as clueless as everyone else is?

yes, why not? if it's true...how is telling us just that honestlly (as a start...along with describing a few advocacy initiatives they're considering toward assuring that our funds are indeed handled properly...etc. etc....get the idea...at least attempting to act as if you really are a player advocate--even if only for players who signed up under your affiliate bannership)...

how is communicating honestly...worse than the current status quo=**crickets**...?

**rcene** · 04-18-13, 10:14 PM

Originally posted by bangthebook

For what its worth I have been in contact with some people down there and as of right now there is no deal in place with any book and it looks like they are going to remain in business. Of course it could change but all the top books we would want them to transfer accounts to are not involved.

How do they remain in business without a license? Sbr says it was revoked

**raydog** · 04-18-13, 10:18 PM

Originally posted by High3rEl3m3nt

Ray,

I still find it entertaining that you believe SBR knows as much as any poster here, and as you hinted, they might even know a little less. Legends would have been demolished if it weren't for forums like SBR. There's nothing about this book that makes it competitive. No overnight lines, late lines, higher than industry averages for W/D's, no reduced juice, and low limits. SBR helped to build Legends and any future deal is likely to include, to some degree, SBR. If you had the Greek, pinnacle, 5dimes, Youwager--JJ's favorite,Bet Islands--obv before they went bust, Heritage, and Legends...which book would you have tossed out of the picture first? If you don't answer Legends, you're dumb as nails. Then throw in all of the other books and it's a miracle this book saw any action. You really should give SBR a little more credit.

.. they have over 14k players... you think they got them all from sbr

... you guys are killing me...

why would legends even consult with sbr about anything right now? can anyone answer that? sbr is 100% useless to them right now

pavy, only speculation, but most assume there have been some seizures.

**rcene** · 04-18-13, 10:26 PM

Originally posted by raydog

.. they have over 14k players... you think they got them all from sbr

... you guys are killing me...

why would legends even consult with sbr about anything right now? can anyone answer that? sbr is 100% useless to them right now

pavy, only speculation, but most assume there have been some seizures.

I sent 4 friends there as referrals. Even after they gave Ethan my info as the referral, Ethan asked if they saw their rating at Sbr. You are underestimating the numbers from here

**raydog** · 04-18-13, 10:34 PM

Originally posted by rcene

I sent 4 friends there as referrals. Even after they gave Ethan my info as the referral, Ethan asked if they saw their rating at Sbr. You are underestimating the numbers from here

you realize your name is one of those under sbr's sheet... ethan got your name and saw you are from sbr...im not sure what that has to do with anything...sbr, in the past, was one of the top ratings sites...i think you are over complicating things a bit...

still not sure why anyone thinks sbr has anything to do with legends transferring players to another book... but it doesnt matter...hopefully, everyone will have some answers sometime tomorrow

**High3rEl3m3nt** · 04-18-13, 10:36 PM

Ray,

14k does not mean chit. SBR and the forums built this book...it's so obvious. How many posters joined Legends sponsored contests over the years and created an account? How many posters used Legends as their go pro book, because they had already had accounts with reputable books? Legends and SBR are interconnected and Legends couldn't have survived without the forums. Maybe now they can, because there's only a few left standing, but back then, books like Legends had zero chance of increasing their market share by outcompeting the heavyweights.

**rcene** · 04-18-13, 10:41 PM

Originally posted by raydog

you realize your name is one of those under sbr's sheet... ethan got your name and saw you are from sbr...im not sure what that has to do with anything...sbr, in the past, was one of the top ratings sites...i think you are over complicating things a bit...

still not sure why anyone thinks sbr has anything to do with legends transferring players to another book... but it doesnt matter...hopefully, everyone will have some answers sometime tomorrow

Nope, when I signed up at Legends. It was not thru Sbr. My point was that Ethan, and the rest of the clerks were trained to ask if it was Sbr. They had huge numbers from here. I am not one of them.

Just was pointing out that you were under estimating the numbers from Sbr at Legends

**rcene** · 04-18-13, 10:43 PM

Originally posted by High3rEl3m3nt

Ray,

14k does not mean chit. SBR and the forums built this book...it's so obvious. How many posters joined Legends sponsored contests over the years and created an account? How many posters used Legends as their go pro book, because they had already had accounts with reputable books? Legends and SBR are interconnected and Legends couldn't have survived without the forums. Maybe now they can, because there's only a few left standing, but back then, books like Legends had zero chance of increasing their market share by outcompeting the heavyweights.

This

**raydog** · 04-18-13, 10:45 PM

sounds like you guys got it all figured out...

... h.e. what you think you know and what is fact, are worlds apart, but i like you and dont want to argue about trivial stuff(truth be told, legends could have survived off its credit side alone, but i know you dont want to hear any facts, so ill put it to rest)...hope we all get some answers tomorrow and personally, i hope legends gets out of the jam and somehow gets back to business...its doubtful and wishful thinking, but they were one of the well run joints that took care of players.

**rcene** · 04-18-13, 10:50 PM

What in the fukkkk you talkin bout Ray Willis! Legends cannot survive on its credit side no more.

That side of the business was obliterated. Its gone dude

**raydog** · 04-18-13, 10:54 PM

Originally posted by rcene

What in the fukkkk you talkin bout Ray Willis! Legends cannot survive on its credit side no more.

That side of the business was obliterated. Its gone dude

lolz, yes, we know, i worded it wrong... they could have survived off the credit side alone... is what that should have said

**rcene** · 04-18-13, 10:55 PM

I will miss Legends. They paid without a hitch, had nice bonuses and the loyalty program was a nice perk

However, I will not miss their fukkkking shitty Mlb lines

You wager

**ZetaPsi808** · 04-18-13, 11:26 PM

Originally posted by rcene

I will miss Legends. They paid without a hitch, had nice bonuses and the loyalty program was a nice perk

However, I will not miss their fukkkking shitty Mlb lines

You wager

we still dont know youwager is assuming the funds

**Microphone** · 04-18-13, 11:35 PM

They said A rated book. You Wager is not an SBR A rated book. How tough is this?

**Ballpark** · 04-19-13, 02:19 AM

Still no news, and by the looks of an email I got back from SBR,
they don't know anything either.

So what happens if no book wants to take on Legends players?
Will all funds be lost, or are there more alternatives for Legends?

**MBENZ** · 04-19-13, 03:24 AM

Does anybody have a link to as why Legends lost it's gaming license?Was it because of pressure from U.S. on Panama?

**lukahh** · 04-19-13, 06:45 AM

A+ rating?
god bless the watchdog

**bangthebook** · 04-19-13, 07:03 AM

Originally posted by rcene

How do they remain in business without a license? Sbr says it was revoked

These books have multiple locations and the license really means nothing.. The biggest problem they have right now is finding processors to stay afloat

**Iwinyourmoney** · 04-19-13, 07:08 AM

Guys don't argue with Ray.

He has more of a clue and is more connected then anyone in this thread. If you guys even had the slightest clue listen to what he has to say