This is a sad day for many reasons. But take a good look at the amount for 7 years etc... in my eyes... it's not that much. That's all the evidence they have in 7 years? It's just enough to collect taxes on... and they are going to threaten with long term jail sentences etc. This is the link for people ratting other people out... hey give me some names... we'll lessen the sentence. If you own and operated a SB outside the US... and you're linked in someway to US money... you're done. It's just a matter of time. I honestly thought they'd stop.... but they aren't stopping until everyone is out.
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pavyracer
SBR Aristocracy
04-12-07
82513
#38
Originally posted by capitalist pig
So what book is next?
later
5Dimes will be my guess.
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pavyracer
SBR Aristocracy
04-12-07
82513
#39
Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
This is a sad day for many reasons. But take a good look at the amount for 7 years etc... in my eyes... it's not that much. That's all the evidence they have in 7 years? It's just enough to collect taxes on... and they are going to threaten with long term jail sentences etc. This is the link for people ratting other people out... hey give me some names... we'll lessen the sentence. If you own and operated a SB outside the US... and you're linked in someway to US money... you're done. It's just a matter of time. I honestly thought they'd stop.... but they aren't stopping until everyone is out.
They have bank transfers in the millions, million dollars houses and private jets. When IRS looks at your tax returns and sees a $60,000 return how are they going to justify the money in the bank and the properties they own?
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Carseller4
SBR Posting Legend
10-22-09
19627
#40
Legends only does transfers to "The Greek"
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konck
SBR Posting Legend
10-17-06
12554
#41
Heard there was a big raid in Florida
34 arrested owners of Legends and BI
Trying to confirm
The US Department of Justice indicts individuals and companies connected with online sports betting operator Legendz Sports.
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The Kraken
BARRELED IN @ SBR!
12-25-11
28917
#44
LVbound set up a sting over the 17 dollars he lost at BI
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konck
SBR Posting Legend
10-17-06
12554
#45
The US Justice Department announced Wednesday that dozens of individuals and businesses associated with Legends Sports have been indicted. Charges include racketeering, conspiring to commit money laundering, money laundering, and operating an illegal gambling business. The 95-page indictment seeks a default judgment of at least $1 billion.
The indictment was handed down by a grand jury in Oklahoma.
US Attorney Sanford C. Coats of Oklahoma's Western District stated: "The defendants cannot hide the allegedly illegal sports gambling operation behind corporate veils or state and international boundaries. I thank the IRS and FBI for their diligent work over several years to investigate this billion dollar international gambling enterprise."
Sportsbook Review.com will seek comment from Legends executives and update this report as more information becomes available.
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dfish
SBR MVP
12-17-10
2730
#46
Ballpark figure DOJ spent to uncover these "Overt Acts" ?
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BennyBigNuts
SBR Hall of Famer
04-16-12
8700
#47
There is already a thread on here for it. Game over Sportscrooks I mean sportsbooks overseas. Lol.
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the_orangekat
SBR MVP
12-08-07
1267
#48
Your money is lost, as another poster said NO ONE WILL RELEASE MONEY NOW THAT JAIL TIME IS RUMORED FOR ACCESSORIES. This is BAD news.
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TheMoneyShot
BARRELED IN @ SBR!
02-14-07
28672
#49
Originally posted by pavyracer
5Dimes will be my guess.
why would you say 5D though? Tony has made it known... that he will be the last guy standing no matter what.
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konck
SBR Posting Legend
10-17-06
12554
#50
If your in legends
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johnpendred
SBR Sharp
03-08-13
415
#51
anyone with an account call legends and see what they say????????/
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sneak-a-peak
SBR MVP
11-07-09
1373
#52
Originally posted by konck
If your in legends
Thats if your n ANY book
The writings been on the wall for quite some time
This will eventually happen to them all
Big brother has access to EVERYTHING
No one can hide
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pavyracer
SBR Aristocracy
04-12-07
82513
#53
Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
why would you say 5D though? Tony has made it known... that he will be the last guy standing no matter what.
Well Legends is out, The Greek owner is indicted too, pinnacle made a deal with the feds a few years back to get out of US so the next big fish to fry is 5Dimes.
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Emily_Haines
SBR Posting Legend
04-14-09
15917
#54
Originally posted by pavyracer
Well Legends is out, The Greek owner is indicted too, pinnacle made a deal with the feds a few years back to get out of US so the next big fish to fry is 5Dimes.
or bookmaker
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TheMoneyShot
BARRELED IN @ SBR!
02-14-07
28672
#55
Originally posted by pavyracer
Well Legends is out, The Greek owner is indicted too, pinnacle made a deal with the feds a few years back to get out of US so the next big fish to fry is 5Dimes.
It seems like the feds are going after people who own property or have assets in the US. If Tony is the head honcho over there... and has no ties to the US besides taking US money... I don't think they can do anything to him. Every person so far had property or investments here in the US. Even the dude from Pinny. So... if you have no ties to the US... you're ok.
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allin1
SBR MVP
11-07-11
4555
#56
Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
It seems like the feds are going after people who own property or have assets in the US. If Tony is the head honcho over there... and has no ties to the US besides taking US money... I don't think they can do anything to him. Every person so far had property or investments here in the US. Even the dude from Pinny. So... if you have no ties to the US... you're ok.
so I hear sbr has a sportsbook, does that mean sbr_john should stay out of us?
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goldgloverover
SBR Rookie
04-01-13
43
#57
Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
It seems like the feds are going after people who own property or have assets in the US. If Tony is the head honcho over there... and has no ties to the US besides taking US money... I don't think they can do anything to him. Every person so far had property or investments here in the US. Even the dude from Pinny. So... if you have no ties to the US... you're ok.
Any books that have no property or assets in the United States will be fine, but there's a trickle down effect. They'll go after processors who are knowingly (and unknowingly) handling transactions to offshore books from US CC accounts attached to US Banks. So then it's W----U only, but W-----U will get tax subsidies to make cash transfers to 'hot' markets like Costa Rica and Nicaragua not worth it to the books.
So then the books shut out US players entirely because it's not worth the hassle. So even though you can protect yourself with an extra layer of insulation by not having any US assets, they'll find a way. It'll take more time than if you're living in New Hampshire making bank transfers, but it'll happen. It'll probably take 5 years. By then, hopefully there'll be a more widely regulated market in the US that's legal for bettors there, but that could be 15-20 years away. So you could be talking about a decade gap where it's either too difficult to find an offshore book willing to deal with the hassle of US players or your money is getting sucked up and books indicted so fast that it's not worth it.
Enjoy the next few years and keep a finger on the rails. You feel the vibration before you see the train.
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allin1
SBR MVP
11-07-11
4555
#58
"Today's charges demonstrate that we are as determined as ever to hold accountable those involved in facilitating illegal online gambling by U.S. citizens, regardless of where the business operates, or where the defendants reside."
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psbaseballfan27
SBR Rookie
09-21-12
22
#59
Ok so should I assume that money from legends is gone and move on? Its not much relatively speaking and I never sent my id to them (I never win anyway lol)
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SBR Forum
Administrator
12-02-06
4559
#60
Originally posted by psbaseballfan27
Ok so should I assume that money from legends is gone and move on? Its not much relatively speaking and I never sent my id to them (I never win anyway lol)
What Legends has stated publicly is that there is no reason for users to be concerned about their funds and history shows in most cases user balances and day to day operations are unaffected. What we know is that indictments relating to gaming where they accept business from US users or have done business within the US is not uncommon. But, players should do what they feel is in their best interest and safest for them.
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combination lock
SBR High Roller
01-08-13
193
#61
Its over with guys. You would have to be certifiably insane to keep a significant amount of cash in any of these books. Just a few years ago I had 30 g's in a book and felt comfortable. Today I say hell to the nizzo
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robmpink
SBR Posting Legend
01-09-07
13205
#62
Did you create two fluff articles to bury this headline news on your front page? Seems so.
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poker6469
SBR Sharp
02-13-12
454
#63
this book is never going to be a safe out again,flagged forever
if you keep a penny in this book you are stupid.
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pavyracer
SBR Aristocracy
04-12-07
82513
#64
Originally posted by SBR Forum
What Legends has stated publicly is that there is no reason for users to be concerned about their funds and history shows in most cases user balances and day to day operations are unaffected. What we know is that indictments relating to gaming where they accept business from US users or have done business within the US is not uncommon. But, players should do what they feel is in their best interest and safest for them.
You are putting your reputation on the line here. Don't do another BI fiasco when you were telling players everything was safe 3 weeks after BI went busto.
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Carseller4
SBR Posting Legend
10-22-09
19627
#65
Originally posted by SBR Forum
What Legends has stated publicly is that there is no reason for users to be concerned about their funds and history shows in most cases user balances and day to day operations are unaffected. What we know is that indictments relating to gaming where they accept business from US users or have done business within the US is not uncommon. But, players should do what they feel is in their best interest and safest for them.
What Legends has stated publicly is that there is no reason for users to be concerned about their funds and history shows in most cases user balances and day to day operations are unaffected. What we know is that indictments relating to gaming where they accept business from US users or have done business within the US is not uncommon. But, players should do what they feel is in their best interest and safest for them.
how much did legends pay you to swiftly edit/add to this?