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  • teecee
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    • 09-18-09
    • 6298

    #36
    Is the pk the same as DNB (Draw No Bet)?
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    • blackf1re
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      • 01-31-10
      • 487

      #37
      Wow, Domenech finally does something I agree with. Back to 4-2-3-1. Toulalan as sole holding midfielder could have really struggled against Uruguay's midfield.
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      • Vreston
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        • 03-12-09
        • 1428

        #38
        Pretty good day for me today.

        That Uruguay - France game had almost no highlights!

        Tomorrow should be a more exciting day.

        I'm leaning the over in the S. Korea - Greece game @ 2.70, Greece DNB @ 1.83 @ 1.83 and also the over in the England - USA game @ 2.00.
        I read today that in England's last 12 matches the over hit 10 times and the same goes for USA, 10 overs in the last 12 matches.
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        • manidyon
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          • 02-07-10
          • 375

          #39
          go go go
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          • Karayilan9
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            • 01-10-09
            • 3742

            #40
            Futures

            Winner:
            - Brazil - 6.0 / +500
            - Argentina - 8.2 / +720

            We have picked Brazil or Argentina to win the WC.

            Brazil - They are a complete team, well balanced in every area of the pitch, everybody talks about Brazil going forward but this team is one of the best in the competition defensively aswell. They have worked on this side of their game alot, the players have bulked up, the team is much more physical and are now very dangerous at set pieces. Their manager is a world cup winner, has managed them to being the Copa America champions and has been very clever with the tactics the team is using.

            They are an intelligent team, able to shift formations and strategies mid-game depending on the situation. The team is just as happy sitting back soaking up pressure then breaking out with lethal counter attacks as they are dominating teams, keeping possession and shifting into a more attacking shape. They have a top class player for each position, the only question is the Bastos but he is still better than what most teams have. The one worry is the reliance on Kaka, if he is injured its up to Baptista to step up, alot have questioned bringing him over other arguably better players, however, he has never let Brazil down and plays great for the team. The team is so good they can afford to leave the likes of Ronaldinho, Adriano etc out of the team. Some may see the team being weaker for leaving them out but it actually helps the team become more cohesive, too many big name stars in a team can cause bring alot of problems aswel as the baggage and circus act that follows. The team has better moral and unity as a result of leaving some of them out.

            Brazil we expect to finish first in their group, if they do they are likely to avoid Argentina, Spain, Portugal and Italy. In their side of the draw, Holland, Germany and England are likely giving them an easier route to the final. No game is easy in the World Cup but avoiding the first set of teams gives a slight advantage.

            Argentina - Maradona (I'll explain this pick but don't have the time right now)


            Qualification:

            - Portugal qualify + Usa qualify - 2.7 (riskiest) / +170

            - Brazil (Win group) + Argentina (Win group) - 2.1 / +110


            Will have more futures and world cup boot top 4's later on.
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            • GotWood?
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              • 04-10-09
              • 930

              #41
              nice writeup on the France game....it pulled me towards the under and an easy win.

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              • memo99
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                • 01-08-10
                • 2368

                #42
                Originally posted by Karayilan9
                Futures

                Winner:
                - Brazil - 6.0 / +500
                - Argentina - 8.2 / +720

                We have picked Brazil or Argentina to win the WC.

                Brazil - They are a complete team, well balanced in every area of the pitch, everybody talks about Brazil going forward but this team is one of the best in the competition defensively aswell. They have worked on this side of their game alot, the players have bulked up, the team is much more physical and are now very dangerous at set pieces. Their manager is a world cup winner, has managed them to being the Copa America champions and has been very clever with the tactics the team is using.

                They are an intelligent team, able to shift formations and strategies mid-game depending on the situation. The team is just as happy sitting back soaking up pressure then breaking out with lethal counter attacks as they are dominating teams, keeping possession and shifting into a more attacking shape. They have a top class player for each position, the only question is the Bastos but he is still better than what most teams have. The one worry is the reliance on Kaka, if he is injured its up to Baptista to step up, alot have questioned bringing him over other arguably better players, however, he has never let Brazil down and plays great for the team. The team is so good they can afford to leave the likes of Ronaldinho, Adriano etc out of the team. Some may see the team being weaker for leaving them out but it actually helps the team become more cohesive, too many big name stars in a team can cause bring alot of problems aswel as the baggage and circus act that follows. The team has better moral and unity as a result of leaving some of them out.

                Brazil we expect to finish first in their group, if they do they are likely to avoid Argentina, Spain, Portugal and Italy. In their side of the draw, Holland, Germany and England are likely giving them an easier route to the final. No game is easy in the World Cup but avoiding the first set of teams gives a slight advantage.

                Argentina - Maradona (I'll explain this pick but don't have the time right now)


                Qualification:

                - Portugal qualify + Usa qualify - 2.7 (riskiest) / +170

                - Brazil (Win group) + Argentina (Win group) - 2.1 / +110


                Will have more futures and world cup boot top 4's later on.
                exact same two teams i have to win i feel good about my chances now
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                • Karayilan9
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                  • 01-10-09
                  • 3742

                  #43
                  Argentina v Nigeria - Argentina -1 @ 1.74 15:00 GMT PUSH

                  Maradona has gone for the more attacking of the formations Argentina will be using, they know Nigeria are there for the taking and should dominate the center of the park. Nigeria have dangerous strikers but very little presence and creativity in midfield, the loss of Mikel has been a huge blow especially to their system. Argentina will dominate midfield, Verons passes could rip Nigeria's defense, Messi and Tevez will be tough to handle. Nigeria will be chasing the game alot in midfield and could tire out towards the end of the game.


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                  • TurkzZ
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                    • 01-07-09
                    • 4095

                    #44
                    Vamos
                    Forward points to Karayilan, i am unable to receive SBR points
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                    • phenomenon
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                      • 03-11-10
                      • 3227

                      #45
                      Turkzz u are able to recieve points ?
                      sorry u can t
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                      • Vreston
                        SBR MVP
                        • 03-12-09
                        • 1428

                        #46
                        I'm sooo disappointed at how the head coach for the Greek team set up the team for the game. I can't believe the players he put on defense and in which positions he had them. He left the best defensive player, Kyriakos, out.
                        If Greece had an advantage over the S. Koreans it was on height and maybe tactics. They let them play their game. Even his substitutions were off. Salpigidis should've been in the game from the beginning or much sooner. Kapetanos is just not enough, plain and simple. I hope those guys wake up.

                        On another note, I like the over 2.5 goals in the England - USA game @ 2.15 (bet365).
                        I think England will put up at least 2 and the US could score in my opinion.
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                        • Karayilan9
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                          • 01-10-09
                          • 3742

                          #47
                          They need to replace Higuain with Millito, I have never been Higuains biggest fan and he plays his worst in big games. Millito is a big game player, just look at their seasons, Millito scores in the Serie A league winning game, the Italian cup final and CL final, Higuain chokes in the CL against Lyon if he scored one of his sitters they would have qualified.

                          Hopefully, Millito is bought on for him, he will suit this game more.
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                          • Ryan138
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                            • 05-24-10
                            • 1345

                            #48
                            Millito would be an automatic goal, but damn is messi getting robbed so far.
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                            • MauriceDuval
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                              • 05-06-10
                              • 194

                              #49
                              I said the same thing in LC thread ! LOL
                              I totally agree with you guys : Milito >> Higuain.

                              In 20 games in Champions League, Higuain scored once ... against Zurich (Switzerland) in his lifetime.

                              He only scores against weak spanish team. That is a fact.
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                              • Karayilan9
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                                • 01-10-09
                                • 3742

                                #50
                                Hopefully Higauin gets ditched and Millito starts the next game.

                                Argentina win helps the futures, the game was a push.

                                Vamos, vamos Argentina,
                                vamos, vamos a ganar,
                                que esta barra quilombera,
                                no te deja, no te deja de alentar
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                                • emeka
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                                  • 01-12-10
                                  • 454

                                  #51
                                  You like ENG-USA over?
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                                  • hedgejob
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                                    • 12-21-09
                                    • 2561

                                    #52
                                    Yes ditch Higuain, Milito is no brainer.
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                                    • Karayilan9
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                                      • 01-10-09
                                      • 3742

                                      #53
                                      USA v England - USA +1 @ +100/ 2 19:30 GMT (Small play) WIN
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                                      • Karayilan9
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                                        • 01-10-09
                                        • 3742

                                        #54
                                        England was priced way too short, can't let that value get away, well done USA they could have collapsed after the first goal but kept their head up and grinded it out.
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                                        • TurkzZ
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                                          • 01-07-09
                                          • 4095

                                          #55
                                          Team u.s.a :d
                                          Forward points to Karayilan, i am unable to receive SBR points
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                                          • Karayilan9
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                                            • 01-10-09
                                            • 3742

                                            #56
                                            There is an outside chance England finish 2nd in the group now, that was the match of the group. The big worry is Englands defense, King is not looking too good, Carragher has got so slow. Heskey is missing sitters like usual... Rooney, Gerrard and Lampard played well. The US team kept showed alot of heart and team spirit, there defense got stronger and more cohesive as the game went on, there is some amazing pace in the forwards. They could have a good WC campaign.
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                                            • tbill11
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                                              • 03-15-09
                                              • 1451

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by Karayilan9
                                              Hopefully Higauin gets ditched and Millito starts the next game.

                                              Argentina win helps the futures, the game was a push.

                                              Vamos, vamos Argentina,
                                              vamos, vamos a ganar,
                                              que esta barra quilombera,
                                              no te deja, no te deja de alentar
                                              Seriously! Milito's been much hotter as of late and I've never been that impressed by Higauin. Also mad because I picked Miltio in fantasy haha
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                                              • lakerboy
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 04-02-09
                                                • 94379

                                                #58
                                                Kara nice call on the USA. Do you think the Germans will have issues scoring tomorrow against the Aussies?
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                                                • kmarinouofm
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                                                  • 01-26-09
                                                  • 8437

                                                  #59
                                                  man i am glad you got pushed over the fence on this one bro.. team USA looked good.. i told you that team total was easy $$$..

                                                  I think the under in germany 2.5 is the play.. i think it's silly to pick a side in this game.. as i think germany wins 1-0.. the moneyline has no value.. and neither does the spread..
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                                                  • TurkzZ
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                                                    • 01-07-09
                                                    • 4095

                                                    #60
                                                    could be a tough game there, Germany recently have been going through something of a reformation in terms of playing philosophy. It seems they are going for a bit more flair, which in my opinion is a lil risky as there's no point changing a working formula lol.

                                                    may be wise to leave that game and watch how Germany perform , if there good, may be a good idea to back them to go far
                                                    Forward points to Karayilan, i am unable to receive SBR points
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                                                    • Karayilan9
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                                                      • 01-10-09
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                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by tbill11
                                                      Seriously! Milito's been much hotter as of late and I've never been that impressed by Higauin. Also mad because I picked Miltio in fantasy haha
                                                      I predicted that Higauin will have a howler, get replaced by Milito who will score when given the chance and the team won't look back from then on. Your Millito pick still has a chance, I just hope they give him the chance and also give Aguerro some time aswell.

                                                      Lakerboy
                                                      Kara nice call on the USA. Do you think the Germans will have issues scoring tomorrow against the Aussies?
                                                      Thanks man
                                                      The Germany v Australia game is very tough, the Aussies are playing a defensive minded formation and tactics, the 4-2-3-1 gives alot of cover and if the players fulfill their roles it can help create a deadlock in the center of the pitch. They actually do have a good defense, its cohesive and has quality players most notably Lucas Neil the captain. A criticism would be they are quite slow, so can be caught out if they push up.

                                                      Germany worries me, they have changed the winning formula by trying to change their style. They have tried to go for a more technical, skill based and attacking game. There is alot of hype about some of these young players but I am not convinced by any of them except Marin.

                                                      Underestimating Germany would be a mistake but Australia isn't that big of a dog, if it wasn't for Germany's cup form I would have no trouble fading them but the +1 on Australia is tempting.


                                                      KMarino
                                                      man i am glad you got pushed over the fence on this one bro.. team USA looked good.. i told you that team total was easy $$$..

                                                      I think the under in germany 2.5 is the play.. i think it's silly to pick a side in this game.. as i think germany wins 1-0.. the moneyline has no value.. and neither does the spread..
                                                      USA could and should have punished the England back line much more in the 2nd half, the few times they did it got really dangerous, Altidore's pace was amazing. Usually they counter much better and would have violated such a slow defense.

                                                      Great result on that one, I know you had it big
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                                                      • lakerboy
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                                                        • 04-02-09
                                                        • 94379

                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by Karayilan9
                                                        I predicted that Higauin will have a howler, get replaced by Milito who will score when given the chance and the team won't look back from then on. Your Millito pick still has a chance, I just hope they give him the chance and also give Aguerro some time aswell.



                                                        Thanks man
                                                        The Germany v Australia game is very tough, the Aussies are playing a defensive minded formation and tactics, the 4-2-3-1 gives alot of cover and if the players fulfill their roles it can help create a deadlock in the center of the pitch. They actually do have a good defense, its cohesive and has quality players most notably Lucas Neil the captain. A criticism would be they are quite slow, so can be caught out if they push up.

                                                        Germany worries me, they have changed the winning formula by trying to change their style. They have tried to go for a more technical, skill based and attacking game. There is alot of hype about some of these young players but I am not convinced by any of them except Marin.

                                                        Underestimating Germany would be a mistake but Australia isn't that big of a dog, if it wasn't for Germany's cup form I would have no trouble fading them but the +1 on Australia is tempting.

                                                        Thanks KARA- nice analysis brother. I like Australia +1 as well as i can see a 1-0 germany win or a 1-1 /0-0 draw. I see Germany growing into the tourney slowly. They tend to miss alot of chances as well.
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                                                        • blowseq
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                                                          • 03-06-09
                                                          • 1440

                                                          #63
                                                          Will you guys have action on Slovenia game tomorrow?
                                                          i have no idea about those two teams lol.
                                                          it was a great call on USA.
                                                          Good luck
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                                                          • eldoctord
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                                                            • 06-12-10
                                                            • 265

                                                            #64
                                                            Hey guys! I joined the forum to follow the World Cup more closely. Keep the insight going for us ignorant yanks!!!
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                                                            • TurkzZ
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                                                              • 01-07-09
                                                              • 4095

                                                              #65
                                                              contemplating some action on the serbia v ghana game, other two look a lil risky
                                                              Forward points to Karayilan, i am unable to receive SBR points
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                                                              • alias69
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                                                                • 06-21-09
                                                                • 1017

                                                                #66
                                                                aussies kewell and bresciano will be starting on the bench. valeri will start the match while culina will run with phillip Lalm.
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                                                                • dvb02
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                                                                  • 06-30-09
                                                                  • 2941

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Originally posted by TurkzZ
                                                                  contemplating some action on the serbia v ghana game, other two look a lil risky
                                                                  I hope you are thinking Serbia.
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                                                                  • rockman123
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                                                                    • 10-24-09
                                                                    • 300

                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by TurkzZ
                                                                    contemplating some action on the serbia v ghana game, other two look a lil risky
                                                                    Pick under 2 goals, sure winner The team offence is weak on all 4 teams. But so is the slow defence which makes it a bit even(Algeria is a very unexperienced team. Slovenia has a little bit more exp. but doesn't have fast nor good technical players just like serbia. Dont know much about the Ghana team but as much as i see they dont have much experience either The only thing that can keep Ghana and Algeria up is speed and endurance). Worst case scenario its gonna be 1:0. Many people are pounding the under and the line is getting worse any second might be a good idea to jump on board as quick as possible.
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                                                                    • Francesco
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                                                                      • 06-09-10
                                                                      • 323

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Best wishes for you ,beyler.
                                                                      Kolay gelsin
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                                                                      • TurkzZ
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 01-07-09
                                                                        • 4095

                                                                        #70
                                                                        Algeria v Slovenia - Algeria +0, +0.5 @ -120 (1.8) 12:00 GMT (Small play)
                                                                        Forward points to Karayilan, i am unable to receive SBR points
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