I will give the phag that following that kid WAS A BAD idea!
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The guy carried the weapon routinely....has called 911 about people routinely....this time he happened to be getting his head bashed in and decided it's either die and not go home to his wife or pull the trigger....I think he made the right choice.
Is there an argument to be made that maybe he picked the wrong guy to call the cops on? Absolutely.
It's not as if he got out of the truck gun blazing and started shooting or chasing Trayvon saying "i'm gonne get you nagger" or filled him full of holes and bashed his skull in and dragged him in the neighborhood for show after.Comment -
If Zimmerman doesn't get convicted it would only be right for someone else to play cop for a day and give Zimmerman some vigilante justice in return
Hey this fat pig hispanic looked "suspicious" in my neighborhood
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Your Honor, I Killed Travon for the SKITTLES
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Some things I have learned from this thread:
Per poster Mac4lyfe black teenage boys must have a motive for the shit they do
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One of them was a young fck up. One of them was a half assed vigilante. Their paths crossed. Now one is dead and the other is going to jail.
Pretty fckng simple.
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Since I have made my opinion vocal apparently this would also be directed at me.
Ive LIVED with people that would make you shit your pants.
Not talked about or walked past.... but lived. Everyday for years.
I make my decisions not on skin color or what a mother fukker got kicked out of school for 2 weeks b4.
Fukked up comment imo .
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damn.... read my post and def sound like im being a "tough guy"
all I meant is that I have seen .. and by seen I mean up close and person both sides of life.
Both ends of the spectrum. All that has done is made me have more respect for what is wrong or right
in a sitaution by situation basis. Its hard to ignore color but it should be ignored.
Martin did nothing wrong that night and was put in a damn near unescapable situation that cost him his life
And nothing can convince me that on the night of Martins death
that Zimmerman is not the most in blame for the way shit went down. He is by far the most responsible
Will we ever know all the details. Hell no. Specially with that fat cow so called girlfriend distorting whats important
in the case. But since Zimmerman no doubt holds the most blame for multiple errors he then should be prosecuted
at some level for that teenagers death . Didnt mean to sound disrespectful... case just ticks me off
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What does race have to do with any of this? If TM was a white, Hispanic or Asian teenager, would you feel different? If GZ was white, black or Asian would you feel different? Why would it matter?
It doesn't matter what color TM or GZ was, it doesn't matter if TM was a teenager or a senior citizen in a hoodie. Some of you are letting the media instill race in order to provoke an emotion out of you. Why are you falling for it??
This case to me is about whether citizens (white, black, yellow, blue, green) can follow, pursue, get out of their car and confront other citizens with a gun holstered to their waist in the dark. I don't give a shit what happened after that. Once you come up on someone in the dark and confront them after you have been following them for 30 minutes, you have set the stage for tragedy. Somebody is going to get hurt/killed. Do you really want people confronting every stranger that walks past their house with a gun? That's ludicrous.
In addition, when the citizen is a neighborhood watch lead who has been trained over and over again to not approach, to not confront, to only be the eyes and ears and not be the actual police, it's a slam dunk to me. GZ went against the direction of the training that he agreed to abide by. He signed off on his training that he would not be a vigilante but did exactly that.
How can you claim self defense when you are the follower, pursuer, instigator, confronter? Look at the event, GZ picked a fight. A fight he thought he could win because what person would get out of their car and confront someone unless they didn't fear for their life and thought you could beat up the other person???
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So according to the Martin's family attorney when Travvon says cracker it is just slang but when/if Zimmerman said ****** it is racism. This seems to be the tone I hear all the time in this society. Why the double standard? Black says ****** or cracker it's just slang. White uses ****** or cracker is racism.Comment -
It's really ridiculous and frustrating. Thats why I thought it was awesome on Bill Maher last week when discussing the Paula Deen use of the word 30 years ago (in a time when it hadn't been blacklisted by the media basically) the black panelist said yes of course she needs to go away, fired, restaurants closed sued civilly and anything else to punish her... Bill said so if she's white she loses her job...the guy said no of course not, ANYONE who uses it should go away and be fired...Bill said "so hip hop needs to go then right?" and the guy looked stunned he would even ask that.
It's a WORD people, nothing more. If someone chooses to say it it's their option...if you choose to disagree then fine but they shouldn't be forced out of society for it.Comment -
It's not as simple as you're trying to make it.
Did you really get the impression that Maher was on Zimmerman's side?
If you did you watched a different show than I did.
Yes, it's just a WORD but the underlying question here might be, do you want someone who uses that word to be teaching your kids?
Do you want the person who uses that word to be in charge of your finances?
Two guys with the same skill sets & same qualifications ask to be your accountant but one is an unabashed, intolerant racist & the other isn't.
Who would you hire?
If youre looking at it from a constitutional perspective then yeah it's just a word, we're all free to use it & if others don't like it they still don't have the right to tell anyone what to say. Yeah, I agree with that I get that but, it always says something about your character when you open your mouth & spew racist $H|T whether on here or out there.Comment -
I was shocked when I heard Travvon's family attorney describe Travvon's use of the word "Cracker" as just slang when surely he wouldn't think if Zimmerman said "******" would just be slang. What's worse is it seems like this is the prevailing thought regarding this subject among the majority. Even whites. WTF?It's really ridiculous and frustrating. Thats why I thought it was awesome on Bill Maher last week when discussing the Paula Deen use of the word 30 years ago (in a time when it hadn't been blacklisted by the media basically) the black panelist said yes of course she needs to go away, fired, restaurants closed sued civilly and anything else to punish her... Bill said so if she's white she loses her job...the guy said no of course not, ANYONE who uses it should go away and be fired...Bill said "so hip hop needs to go then right?" and the guy looked stunned he would even ask that.
It's a WORD people, nothing more. If someone chooses to say it it's their option...if you choose to disagree then fine but they shouldn't be forced out of society for it.Comment -
Not saying Maher was on Zimmerman's side, the debate that night was racial terms used 30 years ago vs today regarding public figures. I don't always agree with Maher's politics but the guy is consistent and will stand behind his position even if it goes against his general ideology.
My point being that Bob Herbert (the black guy) mentioned ANYONE black or white using the term should be punished but then gave a pass to the reason it's used the most in today's society aside from black comedians who jump around using white voice and white person this nagger that beaner this....but then a white comic follows and says the same joke and the crowd oohs and ahhs and ducks in their seats.
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Heeba doo heeba doo.
Whitey dont like it.
Heeba doo heeba doo.
Whitey dont like it.
Heeba doo doota
Doo doo
doo!
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Lindzee Fulgate's voice is so annoying I want to reach for a spade shovel and bludgeon my temple until I pass out.Comment -
"A physician assistant who treated George Zimmerman's injuries the day after he said he shot and killed Trayvon Martin in self-defense testified Friday that she had treated Zimmerman before, and that he told her he'd had been involved with mixed martial arts several times a week."
Huge for the prosecution. The MMA training fighter Zimmer turned FAT FUK was training MMA style but lost in a fight to a puny teenager. You guys ever see how someone trains MMA style>? You all seen MMA i dont have to post videos of guys hitting each other over and over while training for mmaComment -
So are you saying that Zimmerman just came home from training MMA and had those cuts on his head and that busted nose prior to the confrontation.
Training MMA and being in a real fight are 2 different things. How many MMA fights have ended with one single blow in less than 20 seconds? Zimmerman is all fat now, but he looked like a pussy right after the shooting as well.
I highly doubt that Zimmerman was taking the same MMA classes and training the same way that the guys on TUF do. MMA fighting is their job. I would be more interested in seeing Zimmerman's W/L record in MMA(if he has one) rather than just hearing that he was taking classes. I mean little kids even take MMA classes.Last edited by Kermit; 06-28-13, 06:36 PM.Comment -
I dont know where he got those cuts or bruises but I know going to MMA classes SEVERAL times a week does give you a huge advantage unless he was being trained TO DO "REXKWONDO" from the movie "NAPOLEAN DYNAMITE"
Zimmerman looked like a lean mean fighting machine. I guess because he was htting those MMA classes SEVERAL times a week. He probably had a bad eating habit or he is stressed out about this case. The man almost doubled his body weight ina year!. He went from 195 pounds to over 300 pounds.Last edited by wikkidinsane; 06-28-13, 07:02 PM.Comment -
When I was younger (age 8 through about 15) I took Tang Soo Do(Korean style Karate) and I would say at least 80% of the kids(and men since I occasionally taught the kid's class and took the adult class) that took it were complete pussies and would have got their asses handed to them if they ever got into a real fight. I quit a few months after I got my 2nd Dan(degree)BB and there were so many people there who were wasting their money(on themselves and their kids) that it wasn't even funny.
For all we know Big Z(That is what I am calling him now) could have been taking BJJ and could have been one of those people who just flat out sucked. some people have it and some people don't, and never will.Comment -
Zimmerman looks like the typical wannabe hard-ass who thinks he can be Dirty Harry and falls for the idea that MMA training will make him a real enforcer. Then he tries to implement his new found badassness but when he confronts his 1st supposed suspect he gets his ass kicked by a 16 year old kid who Big Z thought looked like a punk. The dumbsh*t Zimmerman should be stuck in the same cell as real thug like Aaron Hernandez and they can compare notes.Comment -
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Interesting pic that I found.
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Dude, Zimmy is going to walk on second degree, get used to it.
Prosecution had a good chance of getting a conviction on a lesser homicide charge, second degree murder won't stick.
Still doen't change the fact that Zimmy is a dumb ass, but he's not geting convicted of second degree murder.
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there's gonna be a riot in florida.
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Dude dont get me wrong. I think they should give Zimmerman a medal and an apology, but he may be fckd here. If you put me in charge of this trial you would think you were in Alabama in the 1920's. I have a bad feeling though....
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Training MMA doesn't do that to you....if you've ever been involved in it - no blows to the head/face as he had. Training is going over position and skill not sparring as in punching. Punching is the last thing done in training sessions due to trying to be technically proficient - ground drills, reversals, chokes, etc.
Still doesnt change the fact that a guy walked right up on them the night of Wikkid....says he saw Trayvon on top less than 20 feet away. Case closed...being up all you want about what Zimmerman did before....that night he shot the guy in self defense....just the way it is,Comment -
You're taking the piss.
I think Maher is an entertaining personality but the only thing he has been consistent on is his zionist roots.
He used to be a libertarian but sold out to shill for the progressive liberals.
EDIT: White comics can use the term ****** on stage as long as it's in comedic fashion, one of the few places it's acceptable. George Carlin, Artie Lang, ect.
Personally I don't think there is anything wrong with white people using the term *****, spelled with an a as opposed to an er. If you're using the term ****** in a derogatory manner it's obviously offensive, however if you use the term in the same context as hip hop culture it's not malicious and therefore should not offend.Last edited by Dr.Gonzo; 06-29-13, 12:14 AM.Comment -
White people sound like idiots when they use the slang version of a derogatory word.Comment
