Bobbywaves vs no1here hand: Collusion/Chip Dump or no? You be the the judge

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  • qwertvt
    SBR MVP
    • 12-04-09
    • 1419

    #281
    No1 - I beg you to delete post #274. Delete the content, take the night off and then address your grievances in a more constructive manner.
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    • Enkhbat
      SBR MVP
      • 04-18-11
      • 3145

      #282
      Why would anyone ever tell another guy check it down?
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      • cincinnatikid513
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 11-23-17
        • 45360

        #283
        <a href="https://ibb.co/bPuFw8"><img src="https://preview.ibb.co/c2U4pT/sophocles_poet_there_is_no_sense_in_cryi ng_over_spilt_milk_why_bewail.jpg" alt="sophocles_poet_there_is_no_sense_in _crying_over_spilt_milk_why_bewail" border="0"></a>
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        • cincinnatikid513
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 11-23-17
          • 45360

          #284
          so 6 no votes so far

          1.bobbywaves
          2.no1here
          3.thedomage
          4. ttwarrior
          5.
          6.

          who are the mystery 5 and 6 come forward and support no1here he is looking for friends

          let me post my evidence supporting those 4


          Originally posted by bobbywaves
          No1here is a gr8 poker player.

          You're a newbie, you have no clue what No1here has done here.
          Originally posted by no1here
          Don't agree at all and don't believe that you have a chance in hell of beating Bobby in anything. Show me one year where Bobby wasn't up at the top for poker tourneys won or show me ONE bad sports call that he made. There isn't any



          You seem to be no different then so many here being simply jealous of him. Not any of you ONLINE mouths can state anything specific that he has done to You.
          Originally posted by thedomage
          Since No1 is clearly a good poker player he obviously put Waves on Kings and for players as strong as No1 all he needs is a chip and a chair to win so that is why he laid it down.
          Originally posted by ttwarrior1
          no1here is correct
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          • no1here
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 03-23-09
            • 5914

            #285
            Why the need to talk bullshit? Been one day not three! Is this all FUNNY to you? Why? YOU do have prejudice that cannot be denied nor do you care to hide it. Have you discipline donk yet or is he allowed to go on? LAST TIME I WILL SAY IT! BOBBY KNEW NOTHING AND DID NOTHING. If you care not to believe me I will have no option other then to attend the Bash. Maybe you care to add to Sam's bet if one that there was no collusion. I have agree to both a lie detector test besides paying for it. Your way has Posters calling names for eternity. It has already started and appears to be welcome by you as putting no stop to it. The truth needs to come out. BOBBY DID NOT CHEAT NOR DID HE KNOW ANYTHING. You're giving Posters permission to say otherwise. This whole mess is no good for the forum and will blog it up badly, real bad if allowed. You're being stupid not looking beyond. I know that I am talking sense and only desire is to end it now with it not lingering. I'll take full blame with no issues but Bobby did nothing. You clearly have a bug up you azz and it gonna bite the forum badly. You tell me when this will come to a silence? Never as you obviously dwell upon it!


            Originally posted by SBR Drew
            Appeal denied. Insufficient evidence for the Defendant to grant another hearing. We researched this matter over the last three days thanks to the investigative prowess of the Forum. We viewed this case as all cases..individually and without prejudice. After deliberating over 4 hours today the jury came to its conclusion. Banning was the only way. This case is an example of walking a fine line between honesty, ethics and sportsmanship the likes we haven't seen in recent memory. Court ruling stands.
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            • cincinnatikid513
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 11-23-17
              • 45360

              #286
              hurryupandedit
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              • Optional
                Administrator
                • 06-10-10
                • 61593

                #287
                Originally posted by no1here
                Why the need to talk bullshit? Been one day not three! Is this all FUNNY to you?
                It's funny as Bobby tries so hard to be annoying whilst staying within the rules, and finally got tripped up.

                He just see's it as a risk of the game at a guess. Why are you getting all upset? Go enjoy a pipe and relax. Be cool!

                And please think about changing that avatar and making a new start tomorrow.

                You used to talk about your grandkids as your main interest outside gambling and growing. Bobby aint worth it. ;-)
                .
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                • no1here
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 03-23-09
                  • 5914

                  #288
                  Page 5 will have to wait till tomorrow but would like to say that I feel that you all know Bobby knew nothing. Talking any other shit is just wrong. Calling him a cheat is wrong or any other names that you care to come up with. You all need to grow up with 80% of the behavior here being very childness.

                  Drew you know that the dump was a surprised to Bobby. I know that you know that and believe that. For what action is he ban?
                  You are absolutely taking advantage of the moment not realizing what you are about to face. Forum is going to turn ugly, very ugly if allowed. YOU HAVE RELEASED THE DOGS AND THEY WILL COME BARKING VERY LOUDLY AND CONSTANTLY. One bet that you can take to the bank.
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                  • no1here
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 03-23-09
                    • 5914

                    #289
                    I reviewed it and see nothing wrong with it. Point is Drew is using the moment for personal reasons/revenge of some sort. Bobby did nothing and gets two months is quite obscured. Now we will have Hell here for a very long time if Donk is not silenced.

                    Originally posted by qwertvt
                    No1 - I beg you to delete post #274. Delete the content, take the night off and then address your grievances in a more constructive manner.
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                    • Auto Donk
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 09-03-13
                      • 43558

                      #290
                      Originally posted by no1here
                      I can prove new carpet last month. I said milk not knowing if drank or drink was proper. I thought MILK was Funny and so do you. I figure story would make you happy wrecking my new carpet. Are you sticking with all cool if Booby had winning hand or not? There's another one for you.
                      if you had no outs and no chance to river him, absolutely....

                      unfortunately, that was not the case, you had outs and folded to avoiid hitting one of them and taking your buddy waves out..... that's why you didn't even call and chose to time out instead.....

                      you call and hit the ace, you either take waves out or create an even deeper collusion hole for yourself if you fold the hand after you hit your ace....
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                      • Auto Donk
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 09-03-13
                        • 43558

                        #291
                        Originally posted by no1here
                        I reviewed it and see nothing wrong with it. Point is Drew is using the moment for personal reasons/revenge of some sort. Bobby did nothing and gets two months is quite obscured. Now we will have Hell here for a very long time if Donk is not silenced.
                        I'm silenced.... no issues tonight in takin' 3rd, other than perhaps a small "fook mi and sbr" when my 44 was outflopped by eventual winner goat's q8.... didn't "bully" anyone by typing in "raise raise raise" or "call call call", so I'll be ok.....

                        as for your buddy waves, it's kind of like when cops bust a known career criminal and perhaps the case isn't totally air tight, so the cops, like mark furman in the oj case, may lie on the stand or plant a piece of evidence or two, all under the theory that "even if he didn't do this crime, we know he's done dozens of others"....

                        so even if, for the sake of argument, waves was a totally innocent victim of your chip dump, we know he's scammed people out of their money so he could get his account paid out over at 18th Hole, we know he's stolen from the people of the state of new jersey with his welfare status, stolen internet, stiffed DownSouth out of 72,000 points on a bet he proposed, and lost, pursuant to his own terms, and now has been stealing from SBR with some type of half-ass bogus international poker pts rollover scheme with a canadian, in yet another type of chip dumping.....


                        in other words, even if, for the sake of argument, he was totally cluelelss, he's done plenty to be banned forever from the site; and we can all sleep safely and more soundly knowing that the ScamEagle Waves is off the streets of SBR for a very proper and well-meted out period of time.....


                        he readily prides himself in shooting every angle he can, and thus, even if he was clueless in this instance, karma caught up with him......
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                        • bobbywaves
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 05-06-08
                          • 13280

                          #292
                          Originally posted by no1here
                          Please confirm A-j for my hand and what did Bobby have?
                          I know for a fact I had a pair of nines at least, possibly two pair when the King hit the turn.

                          I tried to check my hand history to see if I did have the King, but can't since my poker was disabled.

                          I have no problem posting my hand, if SBR gives me access to my hand history.
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                          • Auto Donk
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 09-03-13
                            • 43558

                            #293
                            Originally posted by bobbywaves
                            I know for a fact I had a pair of nines at least, possibly two pair when the King hit the turn.

                            I tried to check my hand history to see if I did have the King, but can't since my poker was disabled.

                            I have no problem posting my hand, if SBR gives me access to my hand history.
                            we'll just take your word for it for now.....

                            you can post the hand in 2-3 months when you get back from your little vacation away from the poker room.....

                            really doesn't matter now since the tribe and Judge Drew have spoken.... no1here admitted he tanked the hand because I triggered him, and your sketchy past and relationship with him were all we needed to convict.....

                            thank you come again....


                            ps, you still haven't explained your little chip dumping scam you had going with firekilllerx; what was it again? something like he dumped all his chips but 1 on you in one hand, you buy bitcoin with the dump, then ship him half of it offsite?
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                            • reigle9
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 10-25-07
                              • 17879

                              #294
                              stop shit talking AD, especially at a poker table of all places
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                              • shari91
                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                • 02-23-10
                                • 32661

                                #295
                                Originally posted by reigle9
                                stop shit talking AD, especially at a poker table of all places


                                If I didn't work here I'd genuinely be slightly suspicious that we're all being trolled. Seriously this is so bizarre... all of it.
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                                • Auto Donk
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 09-03-13
                                  • 43558

                                  #296
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                                  • USCPHILLYGUY
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 12-15-12
                                    • 21746

                                    #297
                                    Donk you’re genuinely a nice guy and by all outward appearances have it all. This is really beneath you. Time to let it go.
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                                    • Auto Donk
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 09-03-13
                                      • 43558

                                      #298
                                      just haven some fun.... don't take it the wrong way, it's all good natured fun....

                                      I'm sure Waves is takin' it in stride, good naturedly.....

                                      as for letting it go, it's not even 24 hours old!!!! but nevertheless, I won't post any more scoreboards or otherwise f'k aroud in this thread unless that old dude with the fried brain gets back on his "bullying" horse....

                                      I might have to defemd my honor...
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                                      • chico2663
                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                        • 09-02-10
                                        • 36915

                                        #299
                                        Originally posted by cincinnatikid513
                                        can we please release the no votes for this poll, would love to know who the mystery voters are
                                        i was number 3. Even though bobbo waves is a mean jackass who has started shit with me.(Also figured he was a veteran by figuring out when he was bragging about insurance and not paying. When i told him i made too much money he knew what I was talking about.) I just figured why take away the only thing he likes. But after reading this thread I agree with you guys. I didn't think it through and for this I am SORRY. No 1 i have complained about your avatar many times. It pains me to have to read anything you write because your meth head avatar turns my stomach. I lost a childhood friend to drugs. He got on pain pills after getting hurt playing football in college. My group couldn't get him to quit and every time I see your avatar it brings back bad memories. That avatar should be banished. If I would of remembered it was you in collusion with bobbo it would of changed my vote to begin with.
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                                        • shari91
                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                          • 02-23-10
                                          • 32661

                                          #300
                                          Originally posted by chico2663
                                          i was number 3. Even though bobbo waves is a mean jackass who has started shit with me. I just figured why take away the only thing he likes. But after reading this thread I agree with you guys. I didn't think it through and for this I am SORRY. No 1 i have complained about your avatar many times. It pains me to have to read anything you write because your meth head avatar turns my stomach. I lost a childhood friend to drugs. He got on pain pills after getting hurt playing football in college. My group couldn't get him to quit and every time I see your avatar it brings back bad memories. That avatar should be banished. If I would of remembered it was you in collusion with bobbo it would of changed my vote to begin with.
                                          I'm sorry for the loss of your friend chico. Lately my friends have started to face some dicey situations with their own kids as they come of age playing semi or pro sport and I just cross my fingers and hold my breath. As for the avatar I hate it and wish I had a genuine reason to delete it but I need to be fair and I really don't as it doesn't violate any SBR policies. Much love to your friend's family... pain + addiction thanks to sports injuries is something many of us have witnessed unfortunately and I wouldn't wish that on anyone, let alone their loved ones.
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                                          • cincinnatikid513
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 11-23-17
                                            • 45360

                                            #301
                                            it's like every day is a great day since this happened even got the 3rd question trivia right today with a 1-4 guess, can see why auto donk is excited bobywaves does himself in with the .01 annoying penny all in and will now miss the world cup, well you just can't help but to feel happy


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                                            • chico2663
                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                              • 09-02-10
                                              • 36915

                                              #302
                                              i always give consideration as a fellow vet. It is why when darrell gives me shit I just take it
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                                              • chico2663
                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                • 09-02-10
                                                • 36915

                                                #303
                                                Originally posted by shari91
                                                I'm sorry for the loss of your friend chico. Lately my friends have started to face some dicey situations with their own kids as they come of age playing semi or pro sport and I just cross my fingers and hold my breath. As for the avatar I hate it and wish I had a genuine reason to delete it but I need to be fair and I really don't as it doesn't violate any SBR policies. Much love to your friend's family... pain + addiction thanks to sports injuries is something many of us have witnessed unfortunately and I wouldn't wish that on anyone, let alone their loved ones.
                                                Thank you for the kind words. you used to have where guys could make others change their avatar for points. I made jj change his a couple of times. Bring that back and i would definitely use points on it.
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                                                • chico2663
                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                  • 09-02-10
                                                  • 36915

                                                  #304
                                                  Originally posted by shari91
                                                  I'm sorry for the loss of your friend chico. Lately my friends have started to face some dicey situations with their own kids as they come of age playing semi or pro sport and I just cross my fingers and hold my breath. As for the avatar I hate it and wish I had a genuine reason to delete it but I need to be fair and I really don't as it doesn't violate any SBR policies. Much love to your friend's family... pain + addiction thanks to sports injuries is something many of us have witnessed unfortunately and I wouldn't wish that on anyone, let alone their loved ones.
                                                  Have a nephew i pray about every day. These teachers are so lazy that they make these kids get on those adhd drugs. Then wonder why all these kids on drugs.( Darryl Gates ex police chief of la lost his kid same way.) hell I'm sure that I was hyper in school. But back then they swatted our ass. It is why this generation is so screwed.
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                                                  • franklee168
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 03-06-11
                                                    • 5544

                                                    #305
                                                    The bottom line is everyone is jumping on waves because he is waves. The old "my bet points will crush your bet points, I have cashed out more than you" mentality has finally caught up with him. He always stated he isn't here for internet friends so the bed has been made. I could name many players that if this happened to them and they gave a legit explanation, no one would question it. Again, time to move on. No one will lose sleep over this.
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                                                    • RudyRuetigger
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 08-24-10
                                                      • 65084

                                                      #306
                                                      so who got banned, for how long?
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                                                      • RudyRuetigger
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 08-24-10
                                                        • 65084

                                                        #307
                                                        Originally posted by SBR Drew
                                                        Guys we have researched this case (not the first involving bobbywaves) and we have come to a decision. bobbywaves is banned from the World Cup Poker Event as is no1here. Secondly bobbywaves is banned from poker for 2 months and no1here banned for a month.
                                                        We made our Poker rules clear earlier this year that no chip dumping/ foul play will be tolerated. Collusion of any kind is not welcome at the poker tables. Thank you
                                                        oh ok i see it
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                                                        • JAKEPEAVY21
                                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                          • 03-11-11
                                                          • 29307

                                                          #308
                                                          Originally posted by franklee168
                                                          The bottom line is everyone is jumping on waves because he is waves. The old "my bet points will crush your bet points, I have cashed out more than you" mentality has finally caught up with him. He always stated he isn't here for internet friends so the bed has been made. I could name many players that if this happened to them and they gave a legit explanation, no one would question it. Again, time to move on. No one will lose sleep over this.
                                                          with all due respect frank, I disagree. Even if Bobby had no knowledge of no1here's chip dumping, Why say "check it down" in the middle of a hand? The intent seems to be so the opponent won't bet and put him allin, which is a clear violation of universal poker rules and attempted collusion.
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                                                          • RudyRuetigger
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 08-24-10
                                                            • 65084

                                                            #309
                                                            i tend to believe no1here was upset with donk and had a lapse in judgment by helping waves without realizing he was hurting all of the other players

                                                            no1here admitted to doing this in the past so i do not believe he knew/knows how severe it is.

                                                            i would tend to lean on lesser sentence due to ignorance for his role in this but oh well, 1 month isnt bad
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                                                            • JAKEPEAVY21
                                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                              • 03-11-11
                                                              • 29307

                                                              #310
                                                              Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                                                              i tend to believe no1here was upset with donk and had a lapse in judgment by helping waves without realizing he was hurting all of the other players

                                                              no1here admitted to doing this in the past so i do not believe he knew/knows how severe it is.

                                                              i would tend to lean on lesser sentence due to ignorance for his role in this but oh well, 1 month isnt bad
                                                              he admitted to dumping chips numerous times..the ban should be permanent, he got very lucky with only a month.
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                                                              • cincinnatikid513
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 11-23-17
                                                                • 45360

                                                                #311
                                                                Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                                                                i tend to believe no1here was upset with donk and had a lapse in judgment by helping waves without realizing he was hurting all of the other players

                                                                no1here admitted to doing this in the past so i do not believe he knew/knows how severe it is.

                                                                i would tend to lean on lesser sentence due to ignorance for his role in this but oh well, 1 month isnt bad
                                                                i think u are spot on, i hate the all in but .01 penny move just a matter of time before something happened waves folds waves gets disconnected waves opponent the same, that dumb move only sets up possible problems
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                                                                • RudyRuetigger
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 08-24-10
                                                                  • 65084

                                                                  #312
                                                                  Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
                                                                  he admitted to dumping chips numerous times..the ban should be permanent, he got very lucky with only a month.
                                                                  thats my point

                                                                  he admitted to it openly

                                                                  i dont think he knew/knows the severity of it
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                                                                  • RudyRuetigger
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 08-24-10
                                                                    • 65084

                                                                    #313
                                                                    Originally posted by cincinnatikid513
                                                                    i think u are spot on, i hate the all in but .01 penny move just a matter of time before something happened waves folds waves gets disconnected waves opponent the same, that dumb move only sets up possible problems
                                                                    sometimes i leave 1 penny just in hopes of it looks stronger with all the chips on the table, you have to call a larger number, even though it 2 decimals, and it gives 2 chances for a disconnect like you said
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                                                                    • JAKEPEAVY21
                                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                      • 03-11-11
                                                                      • 29307

                                                                      #314
                                                                      Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                                                                      thats my point

                                                                      he admitted to it openly

                                                                      i dont think he knew/knows the severity of it
                                                                      ignorance is not an excuse for cheating

                                                                      if he is such a poker savant like he claims, he really should know the rules of the game
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                                                                      • RudyRuetigger
                                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                                        • 08-24-10
                                                                        • 65084

                                                                        #315
                                                                        Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
                                                                        ignorance is not an excuse for cheating

                                                                        if he is such a poker savant like he claims, he really should know the rules of the game
                                                                        i agree ignorance is not an excuse, but i do think it changes the severity of punishment


                                                                        back in the day youd just get a warning from poker sites if you played with friends at a sng
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