Bobbywaves vs no1here hand: Collusion/Chip Dump or no? You be the the judge

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  • unde0087
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 03-27-08
    • 28954

    #106
    Originally posted by bobbywaves
    You can't be this dumb. Not hard to call the flop, when it was checked over to you.

    I never wagered my last penny.
    First off, I like how you quote one sentence, as it appears the rest of the paragraph must have made too much sense to help your bullshit cause. But in reality anyone calls your 1789, you would be all in after the flop. No one, but no1 apparently, is checking or folding. I put you all in the second the flop hits no matter what flops. Pot odds makes it the easiest fukin thing in the world. Let us see, 4k in the pot and it is going to cost me one cent to see the river? Anyone trying to argue anything else is just a guilty fukin clown trying to make up a good enough story to sell so they don't get banned.

    Bobby, tell me you would fold there. Tell me the scenario where that makes sense, you know pot odds and all because we know you are the greatest player. Fuk, if it wasn't your ass you would be in here tearing no1 in half because of such a bullshit play, but look at you now. But I am the dumb one.
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    • SBR Drew
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 01-08-18
      • 7351

      #107
      Guys we have researched this case (not the first involving bobbywaves) and we have come to a decision. bobbywaves is banned from the World Cup Poker Event as is no1here. Secondly bobbywaves is banned from poker for 2 months and no1here banned for a month.
      We made our Poker rules clear earlier this year that no chip dumping/ foul play will be tolerated. Collusion of any kind is not welcome at the poker tables. Thank you
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      • bobbywaves
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 05-06-08
        • 13280

        #108
        Originally posted by unde0087
        But I am the dumb one.
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        • Auto Donk
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 09-03-13
          • 43558

          #109
          Originally posted by SBR Drew
          We will be looking into the hands soon. If in fact we discover there was chip dumping of any kind those parties will be banned from World Cup play and possibly all Future Poker events.
          good man.....


          hasta la vista, waves.....
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          • ArunSh
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 09-24-07
            • 6801

            #110
            Originally posted by unde0087
            First off, I like how you quote one sentence, as it appears the rest of the paragraph must have made too much sense to help your bullshit cause. But in reality anyone calls your 1789, you would be all in after the flop. No one, but no1 apparently, is checking or folding. I put you all in the second the flop hits no matter what flops. Pot odds makes it the easiest fukin thing in the world. Let us see, 4k in the pot and it is going to cost me one cent to see the river? Anyone trying to argue anything else is just a guilty fukin clown trying to make up a good enough story to sell so they don't get banned.

            Bobby, tell me you would fold there. Tell me the scenario where that makes sense, you know pot odds and all because we know you are the greatest player. Fuk, if it wasn't your ass you would be in here tearing no1 in half because of such a bullshit play, but look at you now. But I am the dumb one.

            Yup, the last sentences are dead on for sure. If someone who dislikes bobby/bobby dislikes (which is more than half of the forum probably) had pulled a stunt like this, 0 question bobby would be in here screaming that the players in question should be banned. But when it's his good buddy no1here, who bobby repeatedly states is a great player, does something this absurd, it's somehow justified because folding with three outs for 0.01 chips with almost 4400 in the pot somehow makes sense in his warped mind - obviously only a great player like no1here could make such an amazing laydown!

            Just laughable really. Problem is that pretty much any one hand can be explained away as some kind of accident (e.g. spilling milk lol) so not certain SBR will really definitively be able to prove that this was chip dumping even though every intelligent person who has read this thread seems to agree (the poll results speak for themselves).

            But at least if they don't get banned, this thread has made everyone aware of their little game and for sure people will be watching them like hawks in future so they might at least be scared to do it again or if if they do, hopefully this time they will be insta-banned. So at least this thread has accomplished that for the community even if what seems to be the just result: both of them getting banned may not happen this time (but we can all still hope: Drew posting in this thread is a good sign, at least they seem to be taking the issue seriously).
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            • unde0087
              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
              • 03-27-08
              • 28954

              #111
              Originally posted by bobbywaves
              See ya next time you fukin cheat
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              • ArunSh
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 09-24-07
                • 6801

                #112
                Originally posted by SBR Drew
                Guys we have researched this case (not the first involving bobbywaves) and we have come to a decision. bobbywaves is banned from the World Cup Poker Event as is no1here. Secondly bobbywaves is banned from poker for 2 months and no1here banned for a month.
                We made our Poker rules clear earlier this year that no chip dumping/ foul play will be tolerated. Collusion of any kind is not welcome at the poker tables. Thank you

                Hallelujah!!!!!!!!!!! There is a God!!!! Drew you are the man. Bring out the beers everyone!!
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                • bonzaii
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 07-07-17
                  • 5000

                  #113
                  Originally posted by no1here
                  Without Reading Above this is my response, As time allows I will respond to individual questions but really believe that you all need to grow up. Donk is the biggest Donk here without a doubt! Does anybody dispute this? People like people on their own level which doesn't speak fondly of you all. You wish that you were on my level or Waves but very likely will never get there.

                  There was no collusion, just frustration. Uninvited Donk was sitting ringside talking his shit trying to bully Waves as usual. This was annoying me and caused me to spill my milk forcing me to fold my hand as to be considerate to the others. I had no pair anyhow and felt beaten on the turn. I have folded dozens of hands into the hundreds that were prior to the river card to include several dozens different players here. I like to do extraordinary things on the table as many of you know. No one hand or game means anything to me. I care not to be on any team and have never been. I like to help others and have folded many, many hands to many others. I have played more hands then the likes of you all put together having a great sense of when I am beaten that allows me to do this.
                  Waves and myself have always been very competitive in any of our hands that we have ever played. We are both out to win, PERIOD! Folding the hand left me with only 300 in chips. I did so out of necessity! Carpet was brand new last month and needed immediate attention.
                  If we were in collusion why would I play the hand? Taking the blinds at that point would of been great for him but I was out to beat him. Contrary to what Donk believes I had him beat till the turn card. There was only 3 cards in the deck that would of beat him on the river.
                  If I dumped chips on Bobby, He had no knowledge or expectations of it. I have never ever spoken to Bobby at a table or at the forum except for a short term loan a couple years back. NEITHER BOBBY NOR MYSELF NEEDS HELP!!!
                  I had no knowledge of Waves posting to check down the hand and it was surely in response to Donks prior instructions quoted, not my play. Donk was annoying and I am happy to annoy him back.
                  I am amazed at the kiddies here with their tattletales and squealing. Donk has one hell of an imagination;

                  I have full transcript between Opti and Donk talking afterwards but will spare you all of it as of now.


                  What a dumbass Should have just said your internet crapped out or you forgot to act on your hand cuz you were busy jerking it and "milk" splattered all over your keyboard. Guy claims he didn't read anything above and writes a book report haha.
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                  • Auto Donk
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 09-03-13
                    • 43558

                    #114
                    it gives me no pleasure in seeing the scamming, angle-shooting, cheating scumbag relegated to the rail:





                    both of their smug reactions in this thread were unbelievable......

                    good job, sbr, and specifically, Drew.....
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                    • JAKEPEAVY21
                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                      • 03-11-11
                      • 29307

                      #115
                      nice to see SBR step in and look at the facts..this was blatantly obvious and as Arun pointed out, no1here basically admits to it.
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                      • reigle9
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 10-25-07
                        • 17879

                        #116
                        what a scandal
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                        • Auto Donk
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 09-03-13
                          • 43558

                          #117
                          one version of no1here's fold -- according to him -- and acknowledged by waves above, gave me credit for gettin' so inside no1here's head that he decided to fold the chips to waves to spite me.....

                          Pimp game strong, tilting two scumbags right the hell on out of the sbr poker room for a while!
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                          • bobbywaves
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 05-06-08
                            • 13280

                            #118
                            Originally posted by SBR Drew
                            Guys we have researched this case (not the first involving bobbywaves) and we have come to a decision. bobbywaves is banned from the World Cup Poker Event as is no1here. Secondly bobbywaves is banned from poker for 2 months and no1here banned for a month.
                            We made our Poker rules clear earlier this year that no chip dumping/ foul play will be tolerated. Collusion of any kind is not welcome at the poker tables. Thank you
                            I'm filing a formal appeal of this decision. I obviously had no knowledge NolHere would fold, please post your evidence to the contrary. Thank you for your anticipated cooperation in this matter.
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                            • Auto Donk
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 09-03-13
                              • 43558

                              #119
                              Originally posted by bobbywaves
                              I know you suck at poker, but not knowing what it means is a new low for you.

                              I'll write whatever the fukk I want in chat. Don't expect people to actually listen, if only it were that easy. It's up to the individual player to do what he wants with his hand. Did No1 do what I asked? Of course not, so what's your point? No1Here is a gr8 poker player, he's his own man, will make his own decisions, & he'll play his hand skillfully.

                              No1Here just gave a reasonable explanation as to what happened. It's not the least bit surprising that Donkey is ultimately responsible for the unfortunate sequence of events that transpired. This jackass "lawyer" has absolutely no life, he trolls poker chat on a poker table he's not even playing on. It really doesn't get any more pathetic than that.
                              so, am I on your Christmas List now, BubblePussy?

                              I'm glad you give me credit for your not being able to waste space in the SBR Poker Room for the next two months, and rooting for the US teams from the rail in the upcoming World Cup......

                              adios, bitch
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                              • sourtwist
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 11-10-12
                                • 9364

                                #120
                                Originally posted by bobbywaves
                                I'm filing a formal appeal of this decision. I obviously had no knowledge NolHere would fold, please post your evidence to the contrary. Thank you for your anticipated cooperation in this matter.
                                Bye
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                                • Auto Donk
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 09-03-13
                                  • 43558

                                  #121
                                  Originally posted by bobbywaves
                                  I'm filing a formal appeal of this decision. I obviously had no knowledge NolHere would fold, please post your evidence to the contrary. Thank you for your anticipated cooperation in this matter.




                                  let me give you a preview of how your idiotic "formal appeal" will go.....:







                                  what judicial forum you gonna be filing this appeal in, shit-for-brains?


                                  The Court of Arbitration for Sport?
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                                  • SBR Drew
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 01-08-18
                                    • 7351

                                    #122
                                    Appeal denied. Insufficient evidence for the Defendant to grant another hearing. We researched this matter over the last three days thanks to the investigative prowess of the Forum. We viewed this case as all cases..individually and without prejudice. After deliberating over 4 hours today the jury came to its conclusion. Banning was the only way. This case is an example of walking a fine line between honesty, ethics and sportsmanship the likes we haven't seen in recent memory. Court ruling stands.
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                                    • qwertvt
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 12-04-09
                                      • 1419

                                      #123
                                      I think the SBR moderator team has set a good precedent with its decision. Good on ya.
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                                      • ArunSh
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 09-24-07
                                        • 6801

                                        #124
                                        Originally posted by SBR Drew
                                        Appeal denied. Insufficient evidence for the Defendant to grant another hearing. We researched this matter over the last three days thanks to the investigative prowess of the Forum. We viewed this case as all cases..individually and without prejudice. After deliberating over 4 hours today the jury came to its conclusion. Banning was the only way. This case is an example of walking a fine line between honesty, ethics and sportsmanship the likes we haven't seen in recent memory. Court ruling stands.

                                        Thanks Drew! Again very commendable to SBR for doing what basically everyone seems to agree is the right thing.

                                        As to bobby's recent point/appeal - I would just like to go on record stating that I am Jesus Christ reincarnated and as such, I lay claim to ownership of the entire world, including SBR. Since I'm quite certain you don't have "evidence to the contrary" (to quote bobby!), I expect you will be turning over the keys to the site to me immediately yes?

                                        In all seriousness, great job again. I and many others have gotten tired of his antics/shadiness for awhile now, glad he at least has been delivered some measure of justice. After his imposed hiatus, if he comes back maybe he'll be a bit smarter this time and at least not do shady things.
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                                        • Auto Donk
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 09-03-13
                                          • 43558

                                          #125
                                          Originally posted by SBR Drew
                                          Appeal denied. Insufficient evidence for the Defendant to grant another hearing. We researched this matter over the last three days thanks to the investigative prowess of the Forum. We viewed this case as all cases..individually and without prejudice. After deliberating over 4 hours today the jury came to its conclusion. Banning was the only way. This case is an example of walking a fine line between honesty, ethics and sportsmanship the likes we haven't seen in recent memory. Court ruling stands.
                                          Justice Drew worthy of filling the next vacancy on the Supreme Court of the United States.....

                                          Will be forwarding your resume to Trump for consideration....

                                          somewhere, all across the US, all the people who waves conned into depositing money with the failing 18th Hole Sportsbook just so he could get paid out on his account, for reasons unknown to them, just felt a rush of good emotion and a feeling of some justice come over them....
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                                          • unde0087
                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                            • 03-27-08
                                            • 28954

                                            #126
                                            Originally posted by SBR Drew
                                            Appeal denied. Insufficient evidence for the Defendant to grant another hearing. We researched this matter over the last three days thanks to the investigative prowess of the Forum. We viewed this case as all cases..individually and without prejudice. After deliberating over 4 hours today the jury came to its conclusion. Banning was the only way. This case is an example of walking a fine line between honesty, ethics and sportsmanship the likes we haven't seen in recent memory. Court ruling stands.


                                            That's a wrap
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                                            • qwertvt
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 12-04-09
                                              • 1419

                                              #127
                                              I wonder if Donk will let Waves off the hook on this one?
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                                              • fried cheese
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 09-17-13
                                                • 4461

                                                #128
                                                no1 should have used the "add chips" misclick as his defense. his posts were pretty hilarious.
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                                                • mpaschal34
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 02-04-13
                                                  • 12087

                                                  #129
                                                  THREAD OF THE YEAR!!!

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                                                  • Auto Donk
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 09-03-13
                                                    • 43558

                                                    #130
                                                    waves may take his "formal appeal" a step further......

                                                    will it be judge Joe, or that mean old woman Judy?





                                                    or


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                                                    • PanamaBrad
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 03-22-11
                                                      • 717

                                                      #131
                                                      After this, I am afraid of asking Opti to stay out of my hands!!! lolol
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                                                      • Auto Donk
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 09-03-13
                                                        • 43558

                                                        #132
                                                        still want to know who the 3rd vote for waves was from.....

                                                        we know the old queen no1here and waves himself were two of the votes..... was it that "waves ghost" who's first post in six years was in this thread, or someone else?

                                                        step forward....



                                                        claim your reward.....
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                                                        • JAKEPEAVY21
                                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                          • 03-11-11
                                                          • 29307

                                                          #133
                                                          Originally posted by Auto Donk
                                                          still want to know who the 3rd vote for waves was from.....

                                                          we know the old queen no1here and waves himself were two of the votes..... was it that "waves ghost" who's first post in six years was in this thread, or someone else?

                                                          step forward....



                                                          claim your reward.....
                                                          waves, no1here and the guy that made his 1st post in 6 years in this thread
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                                                          • Auto Donk
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 09-03-13
                                                            • 43558

                                                            #134
                                                            on the downside, waves was going to use his world cup payout to finally get some new hubcaps to replace the ones the local Latin Kings ripped from his '82 Ford Tauras while parked out front of his shithole $49,000 shanty in Trenton.....

                                                            guess he'll have to cruise the slums of Trenton lookin' like this for at least another year:


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                                                            • Auto Donk
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 09-03-13
                                                              • 43558

                                                              #135
                                                              Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
                                                              waves, no1here and the guy that made his 1st post in 6 years in this thread
                                                              ol waves knew the shit was serious (obviously, guilty conscience), so serious that he broke out his ghost to try and stem the tide that ultimately washed him right the hell outta here for a while.....
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                                                              • bonzaii
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 07-07-17
                                                                • 5000

                                                                #136
                                                                I'm not sure banning Bobby for two months is a good decision by management. Guy gives so much action at the cash tables and starts so many tables that all the cash tables are going to be dried up now.
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                                                                • GUMMO77
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 08-23-10
                                                                  • 9294

                                                                  #137
                                                                  Originally posted by SBR Drew
                                                                  Guys we have researched this case (not the first involving bobbywaves) and we have come to a decision. bobbywaves is banned from the World Cup Poker Event as is no1here. Secondly bobbywaves is banned from poker for 2 months and no1here banned for a month.
                                                                  We made our Poker rules clear earlier this year that no chip dumping/ foul play will be tolerated. Collusion of any kind is not welcome at the poker tables. Thank you
                                                                  Great work, SBR.
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                                                                  • sourtwist
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 11-10-12
                                                                    • 9364

                                                                    #138
                                                                    Originally posted by bonzaii
                                                                    I'm not sure banning Bobby for two months is a good decision by management. Guy gives so much action at the cash tables and starts so many tables that all the cash tables are going to be dried up now.
                                                                    Lol...that son of a B has never sat with points he wasn't rolling over since i started playing a couple months ago
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                                                                    • GUMMO77
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 08-23-10
                                                                      • 9294

                                                                      #139
                                                                      Donkers



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                                                                      • Auto Donk
                                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                                        • 09-03-13
                                                                        • 43558

                                                                        #140
                                                                        Originally posted by bonzaii
                                                                        I'm not sure banning Bobby for two months is a good decision by management. Guy gives so much action at the cash tables and starts so many tables that all the cash tables are going to be dried up now.



                                                                        I shit you not, the other day he actually sat down at a half full hi-lo table as I was finishing up a rollover, and in the twenty or so hands I had left, he never entered one.... everyone else would limp, that nit wouldn't even come in for a buck.....

                                                                        probably the worst poker player I have ever seen in my life, excepting perhaps carseller.....
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