Are We All Chasing Detroit And Verlander Today???

**hydrosmak** · 05-24-12, 10:18 AM

Originally posted by billysink

Here's what I see.

Masterson is and has always been plagued by his inability to get lefthanded batters out. His three year splits and this years's as well show an OPS and a BA that are very polarized lefty righty. Leyland has 5 lefties in the lineup today. Miggy hits Masterson well. Masterson is a ground ball pitcher but he has also had command issues this year having issued 5+ walks three times already. Leyland has been preaching patience of late, we may see a few runners on base early for the Tigs.

I would have like Cleveland's chances more with their patent all lefty lineup but an injury to Hafner in last nights game, the continued unavailability of Jack Hanrahan and the day game forcing Marson instead of Santana (who will DH); leave 3 righties in the lineup. Several Indians batters, Damon, Brantley, Lopez, Kotchman have extemely low strikeout rates against Verlander. We may see a bit more contact than usual in this one off Verlander. I am not seeing one of those 14 K games from him. We might see a few innings from the shit Tiger bully here as Leyland is trying not to go crazy this year. Verlander off two low pitch count games may fool me on this though. If the Indians can make him grind a bit and I think they may, the bullpen is shit against lefties.

Wind blowing straight out to left today and forecast to do so full game. 7 is the number and I think we may see a few runs here.

I am gonna have a go at Detroit -.5 first five -114 and the game total over 7 +104.

Probably too much info for this thread but what the fuk.

Good luck gents.

Love reading your analysis billy. Don't hold back on us if you have the urge to drop some knowledge...

**Deuce** · 05-24-12, 10:20 AM

Detroit first 5 is solid. Verlander can go 8 and Detroit still loses due to Benoit and Dotel/Valverde being putrid.

**stuntin909** · 05-24-12, 10:23 AM

Cleveland +1.5 -105 here. GL yal

**Chi_archie** · 05-24-12, 10:27 AM

Indians will play inspired ball in front of 6-7 THOUSAND fans today

**billysink** · 05-24-12, 10:27 AM

Originally posted by hydrosmak

Love reading your analysis billy. Don't hold back on us if you have the urge to drop some knowledge...

Thanks brother, not sure one of JJ's threads is intended for a informational type of post but again what the fuk.

**stuntin909** · 05-24-12, 10:32 AM

Verlander 13-0 in last 14 road games. Wow

**Brock Landers** · 05-24-12, 10:33 AM

Going with Detroit
Fuk it

**Smoke** · 05-24-12, 10:34 AM

This thread is just to get guys to gamble

That's what jj wants

**cdaniels24** · 05-24-12, 10:35 AM

Last time these two faced off the o/u was 6.5 and the final score was 8-6. Don't know if that means anything now

**JESSE1014** · 05-24-12, 10:46 AM

Galaxy Avatar

Originally posted by stuntin909

Cleveland +1.5 -105 here. GL yal

Hope you did not take the galaxy last night, talk about choke job..............

**THEINSIDER900** · 05-24-12, 10:54 AM

you will all losers indians will win today easy

**rm18** · 05-24-12, 10:57 AM

no bet would of took indians if Hafner played

**LoneStar** · 05-24-12, 11:00 AM

7-3 Detroit (-3) & Over

**stevenash** · 05-24-12, 11:02 AM

Verlander -1.5 +EV is my play.
Verlander strike out rate against the Tribe is 1:3.5 at bats.
That number is not just eye popping, it's a huge sample size (346 at bats) and suggests that even if JV gets in a little jam, he can strike his way out of it just about anytime.
Also, unlike 90 percent of the rest of the league's starters who go deep into the seventh inning, Verlander can finish what he starts, even if it does mean 125 pitches.

JV -1.5 ftw for me.

**Mjh702** · 05-24-12, 11:04 AM

Originally posted by milwaukee mike

i'm on detroit -1.5

I'm on the same, let's cash this!

and

to avril

**No coincidences** · 05-24-12, 11:08 AM

Originally posted by Brock Landers

Going with Detroit
Fuk it

Classic.

**stevenash** · 05-24-12, 11:11 AM

Originally posted by billysink

Here's what I see.

Masterson is and has always been plagued by his inability to get lefthanded batters out. His three year splits and this years's as well show an OPS and a BA that are very polarized lefty righty. Leyland has 5 lefties in the lineup today. Miggy hits Masterson well. Masterson is a ground ball pitcher but he has also had command issues this year having issued 5+ walks three times already. Leyland has been preaching patience of late, we may see a few runners on base early for the Tigs.

I would have like Cleveland's chances more with their patent all lefty lineup but an injury to Hafner in last nights game, the continued unavailability of Jack Hanrahan and the day game forcing Marson instead of Santana (who will DH); leave 3 righties in the lineup. Several Indians batters, Damon, Brantley, Lopez, Kotchman have extemely low strikeout rates against Verlander. We may see a bit more contact than usual in this one off Verlander. I am not seeing one of those 14 K games from him. We might see a few innings from the shit Tiger bully here as Leyland is trying not to go crazy this year. Verlander off two low pitch count games may fool me on this though. If the Indians can make him grind a bit and I think they may, the bullpen is shit against lefties.

Wind blowing straight out to left today and forecast to do so full game. 7 is the number and I think we may see a few runs here.

I am gonna have a go at Detroit -.5 first five -114 and the game total over 7 +104.

Probably too much info for this thread but what the fuk.

Good luck gents.

This is the reason why I come here, intelligent posters that put in the time and share it.

**remeedella** · 05-24-12, 11:16 AM

3 pitches and little azn pitcher for cleveland home runs, I think first in last 5 years or I could be wrong on that. I had this gut feeling watching play by play it might happen. dunno y

**I Don't Want Fop** · 05-24-12, 11:16 AM

Just started

Went 2-0 yesterday

Going with Detroit ML
Pacers +3.5

**ZetaPsi808** · 05-24-12, 11:16 AM

Choo leads off with an upper deck home run

454 feet

**Brock Landers** · 05-24-12, 11:16 AM

1-0 Cleveland

fukking leadoff homer for choo

Unreal

**Ghenghis Kahn** · 05-24-12, 11:17 AM

Originally posted by remeedella

3 pitches and little azn pitcher for cleveland home runs, I think first in last 5 years or I could be wrong on that. I had this gut feeling watching play by play it might happen. dunno y

what little azn pitcher? choo is a good hitter. he was batting third most of last year.

**THEINSIDER900** · 05-24-12, 11:17 AM

this may be to easy

**stuntin909** · 05-24-12, 11:20 AM

Originally posted by JESSE1014

Hope you did not take the galaxy last night, talk about choke job..............

Took the over! Lmao. Trust man I know my team n have no problem fading them. Hit Toronto +500 a month back. Knew they were going to suck this year. They'll turn it around soon though.

**No coincidences** · 05-24-12, 11:20 AM

Originally posted by Brock Landers

1-0 Cleveland

fukking leadoff homer for choo

Unreal

Verlander never pitches particularly well vs. Cleveland, the Tiger bats are stone cold, and you laid -165 on the road against the better team in a day game.

I'm sure you considered all of that before you made the play though, right?

**Powderguy** · 05-24-12, 11:20 AM

we're all down 1-0 in the 1st lol

**stevenash** · 05-24-12, 11:22 AM

Originally posted by Powderguy

we're all down 1-0 in the 1st lol

Honest to God, it's not like they got 24 outs left or anything?

**BuddyBear** · 05-24-12, 11:24 AM

Originally posted by No coincidences

Verlander never pitches particularly well vs. Cleveland, the Tiger bats are stone cold, and you laid -165 on the road against the better team in a day game.

I'm sure you considered all of that before you made the play though, right?

No offense, the Indians are not a better team than the Tigers. Just b/c they have a better record does not mean they are better. If they are the better team, why are they such big underdogs this afternoon?

**No coincidences** · 05-24-12, 11:26 AM

Originally posted by BuddyBear

No offense, the Indians are not a better team than the Tigers. Just b/c they have a better record does not mean they are better. If they are the better team, why are they such big underdogs this afternoon?

Because Verlander is pitching. He could be -200 and people would take the bait. Truth is, he's barely above .500 in his career vs. the Tribe with an ERA of like 4.8.

Does Cleveland have more talent than Detroit? No. Is Cleveland a better team than Detroit right now? Without question.

**DudleyDawson** · 05-24-12, 11:29 AM

Originally posted by No coincidences

Because Verlander is pitching. He could be -200 and people would take the bait. Truth is, he's barely above .500 in his career vs. the Tribe with an ERA of like 4.8.

Does Cleveland have more talent than Detroit? No. Is Cleveland a better team than Detroit right now? Without question.

And Masterson is 0-4 with a 5.14 lifetime ERA against the Tigers, what's your point?

**zoo youk** · 05-24-12, 11:31 AM

terrible base running. what are you doing breaking towards home on a hard hit ball to 3rd. these guys are so dumb.

**THEINSIDER900** · 05-24-12, 11:31 AM

is masterson the best

**Brock Landers** · 05-24-12, 11:31 AM

Boesch gunned down at the plate

**ZetaPsi808** · 05-24-12, 11:31 AM

boesch thrown out at fukkin home

**No coincidences** · 05-24-12, 11:32 AM

Originally posted by DudleyDawson

And Masterson is 0-4 with a 5.14 lifetime ERA against the Tigers, what's your point?

My point is the Indians are playing well right now and the Tigers aren't. How you can lay -165 right now on Detroit is beyond me, but good luck.