Are We All Chasing Detroit And Verlander Today???

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  • jjgold
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 07-20-05
    • 388179

    #1
    Are We All Chasing Detroit And Verlander Today???
    AMERICAN LEAGUE
    May 24 959 DET TIGERS VERLANDER -R -155<input name="text_" value="4_113590_0_-155" type="checkbox">
    12:05 PM 960 CLE INDIANS J MASTERSN -R +145
  • ProfaneReality
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 04-14-09
    • 7607

    #2
    I would advise against it. Indians have always hit Verlander pretty well... he has an era of 5 against them over 170 innings

    Masterson has been hot garbage for the most part this year, but is sporting a home ERA of 2.62

    Not to mention, these teams are trending in opposite directions. Wouldn't lay -150 on Detroit vs anyone right now.
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    • jjgold
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 07-20-05
      • 388179

      #3
      Reality good advice man

      I swear you make good points but I am a fukkin sucker and hitting Verlander here
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      • thirtytwo
        SBR MVP
        • 01-07-10
        • 1784

        #4
        wouldnt touch those underachieving fukks at this price
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        • taxe91
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 03-16-12
          • 610

          #5
          Originally posted by ProfaneReality
          I would advise against it. Indians have always hit Verlander pretty well... he has an era of 5 against them over 170 innings

          Masterson has been hot garbage for the most part this year, but is sporting a home ERA of 2.62

          Not to mention, these teams are trending in opposite directions. Wouldn't lay -150 on Detroit vs anyone right now.
          CLEVELAND INDIANS CAREER STATISTICS VS. JUSTIN VERLANDER
          BATTER AB H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO AVG OBP SLG OPS
          Michael Brantley 16 7 0 1 0 4 3 3 .438 .526 .563 1.089
          Asdrubal Cabrera 36 6 1 0 0 4 4 15 .167 .250 .194 .444
          Ezequiel Carrera 6 0 0 0 0 0 0 3 .000 .000 .000 .000
          Lonnie Chisenhall 5 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 .200 .200 .200 .400
          Shin-Soo Choo 39 8 0 0 1 3 5 16 .205 .295 .282 .578
          Johnny Damon 22 7 3 0 1 1 1 3 .318 .348 .591 .939
          Jason Donald 8 3 1 0 0 1 0 3 .375 .375 .500 .875
          Shelley Duncan 13 4 1 0 2 4 1 4 .308 .357 .846 1.203
          Travis Hafner 44 12 0 0 2 10 9 13 .273 .389 .409 .798
          Jack Hannahan 7 0 0 0 0 0 2 5 .000 .222 .000 .222
          Jason Kipnis 2 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 .000 .333 .000 .333
          Casey Kotchman 23 6 2 0 1 3 0 3 .261 .250 .478 .728
          Matt LaPorta 12 0 0 0 0 0 1 3 .000 .077 .000 .077
          Jose Lopez 38 11 2 0 0 3 0 1 .289 .289 .342 .632
          Lou Marson 11 2 1 0 0 0 2 4 .182 .308 .273 .580
          Carlos Santana 9 2 0 0 1 1 3 3 .222 .462 .556 1.017
          Grady Sizemore 55 12 4 0 2 7 9 16 .218 .348 .400 .748
          Totals 346 81 15 1 10 41 41 96 .234 .319 .370 .689

          pretty average numbers.

          detroit trying to avoid the sweep with their 'stopper' on the mound, i like them but not at this price
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          • BIGDAY
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 02-17-10
            • 48245

            #6
            I'm with ya coach!!!! Let's The fukkker up pal!!!
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            • EC4THREE10
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 05-16-12
              • 530

              #7
              Detroit wins dont be scared to win
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              • leeloo
                SBR Sharp
                • 04-11-10
                • 313

                #8
                Yes we are.
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                • jjgold
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 07-20-05
                  • 388179

                  #9
                  Anyone getting greedy and playing them on the rl?
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                  • JJJ
                    SBR MVP
                    • 05-03-11
                    • 2610

                    #10
                    I would only bet 1st 5 innings Detroits bullpen is horrible
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                    • Smogs
                      SBR MVP
                      • 12-31-08
                      • 4173

                      #11
                      Gotta leave it alone i feel
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                      • LoneStar
                        Restricted User
                        • 07-11-09
                        • 190

                        #12
                        Originally posted by jjgold
                        Anyone getting greedy and playing them on the rl?
                        Greed....it reality! How bout Det -3. Inside source says its gonna get ugly
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                        • milwaukee mike
                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                          • 08-22-07
                          • 26914

                          #13
                          i'm on detroit -1.5
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                          • a4u2fear
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 01-29-10
                            • 8147

                            #14
                            Opposite of Detroit
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                            • MikeZaW
                              SBR Sharp
                              • 11-12-08
                              • 472

                              #15
                              I'd normally play against in this spot but I think Verlander goes atleast 8 innings today and wins it.
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                              • vaas187
                                SBR MVP
                                • 03-01-12
                                • 2280

                                #16
                                took detroit and the under
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                                • DudleyDawson
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 02-10-12
                                  • 5658

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by milwaukee mike
                                  i'm on detroit -1.5
                                  []

                                  RL's are for suckers. If you like the team lay the chalk...juice doesn't matter as long as you win.
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                                  • Deuce
                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                    • 01-12-08
                                    • 29843

                                    #18
                                    Tigers are shit. He could go 7 and the bullpen is basically gasoline on a fire.
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                                    • Deuce
                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                      • 01-12-08
                                      • 29843

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by DudleyDawson
                                      []

                                      RL's are for suckers. If you like the team lay the chalk...juice doesn't matter as long as you win.


                                      Pavyracer????
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                                      • DudleyDawson
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 02-10-12
                                        • 5658

                                        #20
                                        Tigers have owned Masterson.
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                                        • DudleyDawson
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 02-10-12
                                          • 5658

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Deuce


                                          Pavyracer????
                                          Shouldn't you be in a chat room somewhere, chatting with other guys about shoes?
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                                          • brettels
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 11-04-10
                                            • 3376

                                            #22
                                            I don't know shiz about MLB, but i do know that Detroit SUCK, they won for me when i random bet last year, this year they eat poo.
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                                            • milwaukee mike
                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                              • 08-22-07
                                              • 26914

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by DudleyDawson
                                              []

                                              RL's are for suckers. If you like the team lay the chalk...juice doesn't matter as long as you win.
                                              the juice matters if you win or lose because i can bet a larger amount/win a larger amount. i think there is a very small chance detroit will only win by a run, and i am fading that outcome by taking the run line at +100 instead of the money line at -165

                                              so betting 165 to win 165 (or 1650 to win 1650, or whatever amount) instead of 165 to win 100 makes sense to me.
                                              for the run line to be worse than the money line, it would have to land on detroit winning by 1 run about 1/4th of the time they win, which i don't see with this pitching matchup
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                                              • MikeZaW
                                                SBR Sharp
                                                • 11-12-08
                                                • 472

                                                #24
                                                Took the det. RL
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                                                • Blissit02
                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                  • 07-16-11
                                                  • 710

                                                  #25
                                                  got my bankroll on Detriot....443 dollars....havent won in weeks, bankroll was around 5600 in Jan
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                                                  • pattymayo
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 05-19-09
                                                    • 10221

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by milwaukee mike
                                                    the juice matters if you win or lose because i can bet a larger amount/win a larger amount. i think there is a very small chance detroit will only win by a run, and i am fading that outcome by taking the run line at +100 instead of the money line at -165

                                                    so betting 165 to win 165 (or 1650 to win 1650, or whatever amount) instead of 165 to win 100 makes sense to me.
                                                    for the run line to be worse than the money line, it would have to land on detroit winning by 1 run about 1/4th of the time they win, which i don't see with this pitching matchup
                                                    Tigers are 6-3 this year when Verlander starts, and 3 of those wins were by 1 run. Just saying
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                                                    • GunShard
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 03-05-10
                                                      • 10031

                                                      #27
                                                      Not so sure betting on any team on the road.
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                                                      • vaas187
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 03-01-12
                                                        • 2280

                                                        #28
                                                        LOL
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                                                        • DudleyDawson
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 02-10-12
                                                          • 5658

                                                          #29
                                                          Verlander takes a 2-0 or 3-0 lead into the 9th and gives up 1 or 2...imo.
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                                                          • billysink
                                                            Restricted User
                                                            • 03-29-09
                                                            • 5172

                                                            #30
                                                            Here's what I see.

                                                            Masterson is and has always been plagued by his inability to get lefthanded batters out. His three year splits and this years's as well show an OPS and a BA that are very polarized lefty righty. Leyland has 5 lefties in the lineup today. Miggy hits Masterson well. Masterson is a ground ball pitcher but he has also had command issues this year having issued 5+ walks three times already. Leyland has been preaching patience of late, we may see a few runners on base early for the Tigs.

                                                            I would have like Cleveland's chances more with their patent all lefty lineup but an injury to Hafner in last nights game, the continued unavailability of Jack Hanrahan and the day game forcing Marson instead of Santana (who will DH); leave 3 righties in the lineup. Several Indians batters, Damon, Brantley, Lopez, Kotchman have extemely low strikeout rates against Verlander. We may see a bit more contact than usual in this one off Verlander. I am not seeing one of those 14 K games from him. We might see a few innings from the shit Tiger bully here as Leyland is trying not to go crazy this year. Verlander off two low pitch count games may fool me on this though. If the Indians can make him grind a bit and I think they may, the bullpen is shit against lefties.

                                                            Wind blowing straight out to left today and forecast to do so full game. 7 is the number and I think we may see a few runs here.

                                                            I am gonna have a go at Detroit -.5 first five -114 and the game total over 7 +104.

                                                            Probably too much info for this thread but what the fuk.

                                                            Good luck gents.
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                                                            • Linngari
                                                              SBR High Roller
                                                              • 03-28-12
                                                              • 213

                                                              #31
                                                              Over 7 is the play here IMO
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                                                              • Roxxyfish
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 06-26-09
                                                                • 12066

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by jjgold
                                                                Anyone getting greedy and playing them on the rl?
                                                                me
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                                                                • vaas187
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 03-01-12
                                                                  • 2280

                                                                  #33
                                                                  very good insight.
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                                                                  • acl123
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 03-17-11
                                                                    • 5896

                                                                    #34
                                                                    All in..
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                                                                    • Ghenghis Kahn
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 01-02-12
                                                                      • 19734

                                                                      #35
                                                                      for some reason i like the over on this game. cleveland can hit on verlander and i think masterson will give up at least 4 runs today.
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