If You Don't Think Tony Romo is a Top 3 NFL QB.......

[KKoz9]

Add another 4th quarter comeback for Tony Romo !

Yes, yet another 4th quarter comeback, I believe that makes 13 in his career.

But you must remember this is merely one of the games that "doesn't matter" to Romo critics along with every other game that he plays well in or does something worthy of praise. Only the games in which he makes mistakes are the "clutch" games that actually mean something, for which he is then labeled a "choker"....his 4th best EVER QB rating and 60% winning percentage be damned.

It's kind of comical actually.

You see, haters need to hate, they just cannot help it. But these are the same people that would deep down (although they would never admit it) love to have Romo on their team spinning out of sacks and "getting lucky" completing passes to drive their team down the field for the winning score. He would be viewed entirely differently in those circumstances, being praised for his mental toughness in overcoming mistakes and his ability to improvise when plays break down, and not the least of these reasons being that the hate would be directed at some other QB (probably on the Cowboys) and that player's choice of hats, personal relationships, demeanor on the sidelines, etc...

Over his career Romo has certainly been inconsistent, but let's be realistic, he's a consensus top 8 or 10 QB in the league by anyone with any football knowledge or objectivity and rated much higher by some. In his 6th season starting (5th full year playing because of 2 half seasons) he is on par with most other "elite" QB's progress and has a few prime years in front of him to prove whether or not he is himself "elite".

Whether he ultimately does or not remains to be seen, but what is undoubtedly true is that he will never receive his due from a lot of people no matter what he accomplishes, but it's okay, everyone has the right to their opinion, even if it is wrong...and based on ignorance.

[opie1988]

Yes, yet another 4th quarter comeback, I believe that makes 13 in his career.
But you must remember this is merely one of the games that "doesn't matter" to Romo critics along with every other game that he plays well in or does something worthy of praise. Only the games in which he makes mistakes are the "clutch" games that actually mean something, for which he is then labeled a "choker"....his 4th best EVER QB rating and 60% winning percentage be damned.
It's kind of comical actually.
You see, haters need to hate, they just cannot help it. But these are the same people that would deep down (although they would never admit it) love to have Romo on their team spinning out of sacks and "getting lucky" completing passes to drive their team down the field for the winning score. He would be viewed entirely differently in those circumstances, being praised for his mental toughness in overcoming mistakes and his ability to improvise when plays break down, and not the least of these reasons being that the hate would be directed at some other QB (probably on the Cowboys) and that player's choice of hats, personal relationships, demeanor on the sidelines, etc...
Over his career Romo has certainly been inconsistent, but let's be realistic, he's a consensus top 8 or 10 QB in the league by anyone with any football knowledge or objectivity and rated much higher by some. In his 6th season starting (5th full year playing because of 2 half seasons) he is on par with most other "elite" QB's progress and has a few prime years in front of him to prove whether or not he is himself "elite".
Whether he ultimately does or not remains to be seen, but what is undoubtedly true is that he will never receive his due from a lot of people no matter what he accomplishes, but it's okay, everyone has the right to their opinion, even if it is wrong...and based on ignorance.

Koz gets it.

[BigTenSports]

This is a great thread. Lots of good points.

Romo is better than the public perceives him, but these guys are still better than him IMHO. (no particular order)

Brees
Brady
Manning
Cutler
Rodgers
Rivers
Other Manning

I'd put Romo with Flacco, Stafford, etc. 2nd tier. Romo has a lot of talent to pass the ball to. He should post good numbers with a top 3 tight end and a couple of top 25 talent receivers and a great offensive line.

[BigTenSports]

Can you imagine what kind of numbers Cutler would put up with a great offensive line like Romo has and Jason Witten and Miles Austin and Dez Bryant to throw the ball to?

[d2bets]

This is a great thread. Lots of good points.

Romo is better than the public perceives him, but these guys are still better than him IMHO. (no particular order)

Brees
Brady
Manning
Cutler
Rodgers
Rivers
Other Manning

I'd put Romo with Flacco, Stafford, etc. 2nd tier. Romo has a lot of talent to pass the ball to. He should post good numbers with a top 3 tight end and a couple of top 25 talent receivers and a great offensive line.

Subtract Rivers and it's a good list.

And there is no way Romo can be top 3 with Rodgers, Brady, Brees still breathing.

[d2bets]

....then you simply don't know much about football.

Argument could easily be made (and probably won) that he is #2 behind Aaron Rodgers. I'll put Brady, Brees and Roethlisberger in this argument, but I think Romo has actually outplayed them at the position this year.

I know all about the interceptions earlier in the year. Horrible mistakes at the worst possible time. But even in those games he was spectacular to that point. Against Detroit.....he simply had the misfortune of 2 picks being returned for td's. If the defender had been tackled like they should have.....we're not even discussing it.

Guy is the sole reason the Boys are in 1st place in NFC East. Has had to do all this with a ragtag receiving corp due to injuries to Miles Austin and Bryant earlier in year.

Romo has arm strength to make every throw. Excellent at avoiding sacks. Does it all. When he's on....he's as good as there is right now.

No doubt in my mind he has the skills to win a Super Bowl. Won't be surprised if it happens this year.

Bash away, you fukks......

How can you argue with a straight face that he's better than Brady or Brees?

[SportsPedagogy]

Can you imagine what kind of numbers Cutler would put up with a great offensive line like Romo has and Jason Witten and Miles Austin and Dez Bryant to throw the ball to?

You dont watch Dallas play do you ? Be honest. Im not trying be rude, but there is no way you can ever say Romo had a good offensive line. They have 2 rookies starting, there is always pressure on Romo, thats why he always has to role out of the pocket to make a great play. Thier O-line is bad. Everybody said that this was a rebuilding year for Dallas because they cleaned house on their o-line this offseason.

Miles Austin and Jason Witten are products of Tony Romo. Look at Laurant Robinson ... another nobody who came from no where and is making a name for themselves. Did you notice how bad those guys fell off when Kitna came in last season. Dez Bryant is good ... but his cardio is horrible. Alot of people have mentioned that he does not show up in the 2nd half of games because he is winded. No way shape or form is Cutler above Romo.

Romo's individual stats speak for themselves.

The public chooses to ignore his individual numbers and focus on the teams shortcomings.

[freakydave]

You dont watch Dallas play do you ? Be honest. Im not trying be rude, but there is no way you can ever say Romo had a good offensive line. They have 2 rookies starting, there is always pressure on Romo, thats why he always has to role out of the pocket to make a great play. Thier O-line is bad. Everybody said that this was a rebuilding year for Dallas because they cleaned house on their o-line this offseason. Miles Austin and Jason Witten are products of Tony Romo. Look at Laurant Robinson ... another nobody who came from no where and is making a name for themselves. Did you notice how bad those guys fell off when Kitna came in last season. Dez Bryant is good ... but his cardio is horrible. Alot of people have mentioned that he does not show up in the 2nd half of games because he is winded. No way shape or form is Cutler above Romo. Romo's individual stats speak for themselves. The public chooses to ignore his individual numbers and focus on the teams shortcomings.

yeah he looked great throwin those pics in the 1st half.

[BoutDemCowboys]

Can you imagine what kind of numbers Cutler would put up with a great offensive line like Romo has and Jason Witten and Miles Austin and Dez Bryant to throw the ball to?

Great Offensive Line! Hahaha I wish.

[SportsPedagogy]

yeah he looked great throwin those pics in the 1st half.

Yes, never mind that he hasnt thrown a single interception in the 3 previous games, or the fact he threw two touchdown passes to lead the comeback, OR the fact that the 2nd INT was Robinsons fault for not turning around and the ball still landed in between him and the defender. It is simple Romo hating logic to take one negative thing and hold it above all the positive. What other QB is scrutinized like this ?

[BigTenSports]

You dont watch Dallas play do you ? Be honest. Im not trying be rude, but there is no way you can ever say Romo had a good offensive line. They have 2 rookies starting, there is always pressure on Romo, thats why he always has to role out of the pocket to make a great play. Thier O-line is bad. Everybody said that this was a rebuilding year for Dallas because they cleaned house on their o-line this offseason.

Miles Austin and Jason Witten are products of Tony Romo. Look at Laurant Robinson ... another nobody who came from no where and is making a name for themselves. Did you notice how bad those guys fell off when Kitna came in last season. Dez Bryant is good ... but his cardio is horrible. Alot of people have mentioned that he does not show up in the 2nd half of games because he is winded. No way shape or form is Cutler above Romo.

Romo's individual stats speak for themselves.

The public chooses to ignore his individual numbers and focus on the teams shortcomings.

Who has a better offensive line? Dallas or Chicago? Dallas.
Who has better wide receivers? Dallas or Chicago? Dallas.
Who has better tight ends? Dallas or Chicago? Dallas.

Put Cutler in Romo's shoes and he would feel spoiled compared to what he has been working with, which is the point. Cutler is absolutely above Romo.

[BoutDemCowboys]

Who has a better offensive line? Dallas or Chicago? Dallas.
Who has better wide receivers? Dallas or Chicago? Dallas.
Who has better tight ends? Dallas or Chicago? Dallas.

Put Cutler in Romo's shoes and he would feel spoiled compared to what he has been working with, which is the point. Cutler is absolutely above Romo.

I'm not denying we have a better O' line than the bears, but I believe you said Cowboys have a "Great" offensive line (dont think so). So your saying if you had the Cowboys Team and had to choose a QB Romo or Cutler to lead the team you would choose Cutler! Cmon Man!

[BigTenSports]

I'm not denying we have a better O' line than the bears, but I believe you said Cowboys have a "Great" offensive line (dont think so). So your saying if you had the Cowboys Team and had to choose a QB Romo or Cutler to lead the team you would choose Cutler! Cmon Man!

Hell yes I would choose Cutler. Cutler doesn't have any extended history of choking big ass games.

In fact, it is amazing that Cutler has only been hurt the couple of times considering he has been sacked more than any QB in the NFL the last 3 years.

And that doesn't suggest he is immobile. He is actually pretty mobile in the pocket and avoids lots of sacks.

He has put up good numbers this year with a garbage offensive line and terrible receiving threats.

Imagine what he'd do with a better offensive line and very good offensive weapons?

[mdemps9190]

you're an idiot opie. Romo sucks. Doesn't have great arm strength. Brady, Roethlisberger, Manning (even though hes injured), rodgers, brees, Stafford, CAM NEWTON, and many more are better than him. Such a retarded argument. if Patriots play the cowboys (even though they will get steamrolled by the packers or lions) they DOMINATE them in the playoffs.

[opie1988]

you're an idiot opie. Romo sucks. Doesn't have great arm strength. Brady, Roethlisberger, Manning (even though hes injured), rodgers, brees, Stafford, CAM NEWTON, and many more are better than him. Such a retarded argument. if Patriots play the cowboys (even though they will get steamrolled by the packers or lions) they DOMINATE them in the playoffs.

You were going pretty good until you threw CAM NEWTON in there (....in all caps, nonetheless.).

Please. Let's try and talk serious.

[Goat Milk]

Can you imagine what kind of numbers Cutler would put up with a great offensive line like Romo has and Jason Witten and Miles Austin and Dez Bryant to throw the ball to?

didn't cutler have brandon marshall in denver? that guy far better than most weapons on dallas

[k13]

you're an idiot opie. Romo sucks. Doesn't have great arm strength. Brady, Roethlisberger, Manning (even though hes injured), rodgers, brees, Stafford, CAM NEWTON, and many more are better than him. Such a retarded argument. if Patriots play the cowboys (even though they will get steamrolled by the packers or lions) they DOMINATE them in the playoffs.

Cam Newton is a bum, what's he done to be on any list?

Patriots barely beat the Cowboys AT HOME, how are they going to dominate them in the playoffs? Since they are unlikely to be playing each other.

[slatter]

Romo is good but not great. He's not good enough to lead the Cowboys to a Super Bowl. He's just not.

[KKoz9]

This is a great thread. Lots of good points.

Romo is better than the public perceives him, but these guys are still better than him IMHO. (no particular order)

Brees
Brady
Manning
Cutler
Rodgers
Rivers
Other Manning

I'd put Romo with Flacco, Stafford, etc. 2nd tier. Romo has a lot of talent to pass the ball to. He should post good numbers with a top 3 tight end and a couple of top 25 talent receivers and a great offensive line.

Subtract Rivers and it's a good list.

And there is no way Romo can be top 3 with Rodgers, Brady, Brees still breathing.

Subtract Eli and Cutler as well...

[KKoz9]

Can you imagine what kind of numbers Cutler would put up with a great offensive line like Romo has and Jason Witten and Miles Austin and Dez Bryant to throw the ball to?

Get outta here with Cutler!



Cutler has done nothing... ever...!

Bad numbers, bad record...



Great offensive line? Dallas has started 2 rookies and an 2 undrafted free agents this year!

This guy thinks Larry Allen and Erik Williams are still plowing the field for Emmitt!



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[KKoz9]

yeah he looked great throwin those pics in the 1st half.

Haters

[mdemps9190]

I would rather have cam newton as my quarterback than romo. Cam has played great, not his fault his team is horrible.

[SportsPedagogy]

Your biased on Cam. I like the kid, I'm a huge SEC fan. He has more pics then TDs, and they were costly bs Detroit. Romo beat the Redskins (who have a good Defense) with an injured Dez Bryant, two practice squad receivers, no running game , and a make shift offensive line that kept snapping the ball early.

[jjgold]

I say he is a top 7
Getting better
Still fires into coverage too much

[freakydave]

Yes, never mind that he hasnt thrown a single interception in the 3 previous games, or the fact he threw two touchdown passes to lead the comeback, OR the fact that the 2nd INT was Robinsons fault for not turning around and the ball still landed in between him and the defender. It is simple Romo hating logic to take one negative thing and hold it above all the positive. What other QB is scrutinized like this ?

Tell ya what if Tony BLOMO ever wins a SB start this thread again 0r if he breaks some passing records of Marino(an actual leader who never won a SB)You'll have a case for him to be a list with the top 3 guys in the league this year.Until than he's just an also ran Same with Jay "my Vag hurts Cuntler".Dallas fans & Bears fans are having a pissing contest over two over hyped CHUMPS.
Now to thurs game if engineering a 4th quarter FG to barely beat a team they should have blownout is considered comeback well WOOHOO.Perhaps you should be asking yourself why were they losing in the first place?

[opie1988]

Tell ya what if Tony BLOMO ever wins a SB start this thread again 0r if he breaks some passing records of Marino(an actual leader who never won a SB)You'll have a case for him to be a list with the top 3 guys in the league this year.Until than he's just an also ran Same with Jay "my Vag hurts Cuntler".Dallas fans
& Bears fans are having a pissing contest over two over hyped CHUMPS.
Now to thurs game if engineering a 4th quarter FG to barely beat a team they should have blownout is considered comeback well WOOHOO.Perhaps you should be asking yourself why were
they losing in the first place?

Congrats freakydave!

Rare to see a new poster establish himself as a top forum douche at such an early point in their chit-chat career!

Well done.

[BigTenSports]

Get outta here with Cutler!



Cutler has done nothing... ever...!

Bad numbers, bad record...



Great offensive line? Dallas has started 2 rookies and an 2 undrafted free agents this year!

This guy thinks Larry Allen and Erik Williams are still plowing the field for Emmitt!



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See... the same guys complaining about Romo getting no respect are JUST as ignorant about Jay Cutler.

When Cutler was in Denver, the Broncos had a bottom 3 NFL defense. There were several games where Cutler led his team to 30+ points and lost. They were abysmal defensively. So who cares about his career W-L record at this point?

In Chicago, he has been a winner. Look at the record if you don't believe me. And that is with the worst O-line in football, and horrible WR options. Yet, all he has done in a Bears uniform is win games.

[k13]

I would rather have cam newton as my quarterback than romo. Cam has played great, not his fault his team is horrible.

Cam Newton is Tim Tebow minus the winning but many more interceptions.

Just a step above J. Russell

[BigTenSports]

Cam Newton is Tim Tebow minus the winning but many more interceptions.

Just a step above J. Russell

That is harsh. I'm a step above J. Russell. Newton is at least a leap above.

[k13]

That is harsh. I'm a step above J. Russell. Newton is at least a leap above.

Newton 2-8 12td's 14 int's 80 rating
Russell 5-10 13 td's 8 int's 77 rating

You could say Newton is not even on par yet with Russell in their 1st full year starting...

[freakydave]

Your biased on Cam. I like the kid, I'm a huge SEC fan. He has more pics then TDs, and they were costly bs Detroit. Romo beat the Redskins (who have a good Defense) with an injured Dez Bryant, two practice squad receivers, no running game , and a make shift offensive line that kept snapping the ball early.

Here again your over rating WASH -the deadskins offence is pathetic & Blomo & the cowboys couldn't manage to cover the spread at home or in washington.Pathetic.

[BigTenSports]

Newton 2-8 12td's 14 int's 80 rating
Russell 5-10 13 td's 8 int's 77 rating

You could say Newton is not even on par yet with Russell in their 1st full year starting...

Don't JUST look at the numbers. If you watch the two play, Cam is a different guy just because he's always going to have that ability to run and make teams have to allow for that in their scheming. Russell couldn't scramble for shit.

[KKoz9]

Tell ya what if Tony BLOMO ever wins a SB start this thread again 0r if he breaks some passing records of Marino(an actual leader who never won a SB)You'll have a case for him to be a list with the top 3 guys in the league this year.Until than he's just an also ran Same with Jay "my Vag hurts Cuntler".Dallas fans & Bears fans are having a pissing contest over two over hyped CHUMPS.
Now to thurs game if engineering a 4th quarter FG to barely beat a team they should have blownout is considered comeback well WOOHOO.Perhaps you should be asking yourself why were they losing in the first place?

Here we go


was waiting for these generic fallback jackass criticisms


Never won a Super Bowl...


and the hands-down #1 idiotic winner of all time... "he's not a leader" and "he's got no heart" angle


too funny


"he's not a leader" is all you got because it can't be measured!

[KKoz9]

See... the same guys complaining about Romo getting no respect are JUST as ignorant about Jay Cutler.

When Cutler was in Denver, the Broncos had a bottom 3 NFL defense. There were several games where Cutler led his team to 30+ points and lost. They were abysmal defensively. So who cares about his career W-L record at this point?

In Chicago, he has been a winner. Look at the record if you don't believe me. And that is with the worst O-line in football, and horrible WR options. Yet, all he has done in a Bears uniform is win games.

Cutler


Even Romo haters are laughing...

[Roxxyfish]

to be honest,Romo is a good quarterback,solid, much better than a totally overhyped Cam Newton