Ron Paul for President???

[Bluehorseshoe]

Iowa’s Choice: Dr. Paul or U.S. bankruptcy, more wars, and many more dead soldiers and Marines.

http://non-intervention.com/1018/iowa%E2%80%99s-choice-dr-paul-or-u-s-bankruptcy-more-wars-and-many-more-dead-soldiers-and-marines/

[ABEHONEST]

Iowa’s Choice: Dr. Paul or U.S. bankruptcy, more wars, and many more dead soldiers and Marines. http://non-intervention.com/1018/iow...s-and-marines/

Thank you! I totally agree on the idea of more dead soldiers.

[chippy]

I'm surprised at how much support he's gotten this time around as before he was pretty much considered a joke among the mainstream population. A lot of the people that bashed him before are actually considering him now - at least from my circle of acquaintances which I found interesting.

[ttwarrior1]

i dont like santorum, this isn't looking too good for romney, the only one i like,

paul is just okay imo, he's been in office for years

[PhillyFlyers]

Ron Paul CNN Interview 01/01/12

http://youtu.be/60HJDD7BZiU

[PhillyFlyers]

Ron Paul Fox News Interview 01/01/12

http://youtu.be/fErs-oQnwC0

[ABEHONEST]

Great interview for Ron Paul. Dumb question on the end about "how do you think you'll fare Tuesday."

Paul is so solid with his insight, how could anyone NOT vote for this man of great character.

[Scorpion]

Ron Paul New Ad - Believe

http://youtu.be/cr2KV50BKQQ<ctot+1 .and.="" ctot=""></ctot+1>

[Tully Mars 63]

Well, I'll admit he's a character.

[Scorpion]

Ron Paul Maintains Lead in Latest PPP Iowa Poll

Survey shows broad support, strong organization

LAKE JACKSON, Texas – 2012 GOP Presidential candidate Ron Paul is leading Iowa according to a new PPP poll released yesterday evening, with 20 percent of the vote. The survey has Paul also leading among Independents and Democrats with 30 percent of the vote, more than twice that of the nearest challenger.

“As evidenced by the standing-room only crowds, Ron Paul has broad support and a top notch ground organization,” said Ron Paul 2012 National Campaign Chairman Jesse Benton. “Despite a coordinated assault by the establishment, Congressman Paul is in the lead and headed toward a top finish in the Hawkeye state.”
This comes on the heels of a CNN/Time poll which showed Ron Paul strong against President Obama. Highlights from the poll include Paul besting Obama 47 to 46 percent among those 65 years and older, said to be the most reliable voters. Paul also beats Obama among persons who reside in rural areas 52 to 44 percent and with Independents 48 to 47 percent.
Full results of the PPP poll can be found here.

[PhillyFlyers]

Ron Paul plays to packed house as supporters await victory

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-paul-packed-house-while-supporters-expect-victory-20120102,0,1067598.story?track=rss&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+latimes%2Fnews%2Fpolitics+%28L.A.+Times+-+Politics%29

[PhillyFlyers]

Ron Paul Gets Rock Star Treatment In Iowa! VIDEO

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-500202_162-57351158/ron-paul-getting-rock-star-treatment-in-iowa/

[Big Bear]

any chance he still wins?

[Tully Mars 63]

any chance he still wins?

How come every time I open this thread I end up getting it kicks me over to youtube?

Yes, he can still win. Iowa means very little usually. I can only think of 1 maybe 2 times in the last 5 or 6 elections where the winner in Iowa goes on to the WH. Paul problems will be in NH ans SC, he's not doing well in ether state. In NH he's not even maintaining his normal 25-30% base of support the last I checked.

[PhillyFlyers]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFJqx_E_Zlg

[PhillyFlyers]

Ron Paul: Newt Gingrich Is A Chickenhawk

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/01/04/ron_paul_newt_gingrich_is_a_chickenhawk.html

[Iced]

any chance he still wins?

As much as it pains me to say-- no, he's done now. Romney won Iowa, he's gonna win NH, and he already has Florida largely locked up as well. I'd give Romney over a 90% chance of winning the nomination. Santorum takes up most of the remaining percentage points. Paul needed to win Iowa, come in second in NH, beat Romney in SC, and come in second to Romney in Florida. No chance he does that now. He had a decent run, but now the populace has decided that they want Obama v. Obama-lite Mitt Romney -- two quasi-socialists. Sad.

[Dirty Sanchez]

Paul is finished...3rd place in Iowa might seem like something...but it's not

[Tully Mars 63]

Paul is finished...3rd place in Iowa might seem like something...but it's not

His problem isn't that he came in third, it was a really close third. His problems, as Iced points out above, is the line up of states to come. He just doesn't have the juice to get over in those states. I figure he can hold on a long time because he has cash (personally and in his campaign) to keep going. But realistically by the end of day voting in Florida his chances become nil.

[Bill Dozer]

His campaign relies on a one state at a time attack. He'd get 6 million from a money bomb and spend 4 in one state. Not getting the headlines from the Iowa win is a huge blow even though he will get the same amount of delegates as Romney and Santorum. But he's got some things going for him. Newt is all in on NH. Perry and Bachmann are out. Santorum isn't even on the ballot in some states so he can't realistically be a Romney alternate. If Romney pulls a Cain or says something ill advised it could be a game changer...but then CNN will report that Iran is pointing a brand new shiny nuke at Israel.

[ABEHONEST]

His campaign relies on a one state at a time attack. He'd get 6 million from a money bomb and spend 4 in one state. Not getting the headlines from the Iowa win is a huge blow even though he will get the same amount of delegates as Romney and Santorum. But he's got some things going for him. Newt is all in on NH. Perry and Bachmann are out. Santorum isn't even on the ballot in some states so he can't realistically be a Romney alternate. If Romney pulls a Cain or says something ill advised it could be a game changer...but then CNN will report that Iran is pointing a brand new shiny nuke at Israel.

Have to believe Iran would wait to point that nuke at Isreal. Surely, they would love to see Paul elected? After all, he's proven not to be a hawk and a different candidate, who would do something more intelligent, like actually discuss issues with any well-earned enemies.
If Paul is elected, and then they want to test Paul and do the thing they have threatened, I am sure Isreal can handle them. And, maybe, with some electronic spy help from the good ol USA...but no weapons or troops!

[Tully Mars 63]

From the Washington Post-

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WASHINGTON — Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney has won most of the delegates in the Iowa Republican caucuses, edging former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum. Romney won a projected 13 delegates and Santorum won 12. Texas Rep. Ron Paul was shut out.
Twenty-five delegates were at stake in Tuesday’s caucuses. The Associated Press calculates the number of national convention delegates won by candidates in each presidential primary or caucus, based on state and national party rules.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...m_politics_pop

I don't know why some press outlets are still reporting the old system but the way it works this year the top two split based on vote % and any other candidates get zip. Check fox, check MSNBC, check the Chicago papers or the LA Times. Pretty much check everyone but CNN who, for whatever reason, is still reporting a % split based on votes.
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[QuantumLeap]

You people aren't realizing how much the voting landscape can change. Take Santorum for example, he was at 2% nationally a couple weeks ago. The only reason he came close in Iowa is because he went to every county and made speeches. His fundamentalist message went to the heart of voters in rural Iowa who relate to his message. Larger towns/cities in Iowa went for Romney.

Romney will get NH because they are familiar with him when he was in Mass. South Carolina is too far away to predict, just like Iowa couldn't have been predicted the same number of weeks before its caucus.

[Tully Mars 63]

It's an odd year so who knows? But I think you're right Romney will take NH and SC is up for grabs. SC northern counties are hard core bible belt types and not likely to vote for Romney (Mormon) so Santorum could take another big bite out of Mitt there. Newt could come back if his plays nasty and people buy what he's selling. The up coming states are the ones Bush beat McCain in back in 2000 by push polling and spreading flyers with stuff like "Did you know John McCain had a colored baby... and it wasn't his wifes?" Which was kind of true since he and his wife adopted an Asian girl. McCain had just won NH and was riding high, he never recovered from his bible belt thumping.

I think you'd normally see many in the field dropping by the end of voting in Florida on the 31st. And it's pretty much a done deal by end of voting on super Tuesday, March 6th this year. But as long as Paul sticks around, which he can afford to do and might do up until the convention in late August, it's all up in the air. The Party leaders want nothing to do with Paul and are going to extreme measure, least in my opinion they are, to keep him from winning anything. I'm convinced they convinced Perry to stick around. Perry, by all measure, should be back home in Texas where he went right after he got drummed out of Iowa. He went home saying he wanted to take a "look at the path." He woke up the next morning and decided to pack his bags for the debates in NH... when has a debate ever helped Rick Perry? My guess is the several GOP leaders called and made it clear to him that his sticking around hurts Paul and helps them.

[Big Bear]

will he run as independent?

[excel]

[Tully Mars 63]

will he run as independent?

In early interviews he stated he wouldn't. But more recently he's kind of dodged that question. I think he's finding out the GOP really doesn't want him. Yet at the same time he doesn't want to become a another Ross Perot. He likely sees running as an Ind. as a sure fire way to help Obama. He's kind of between a rock and hard place.

[Bluehorseshoe]

Thanks for fixing the page Lou.


Every time I'd come here it would send me to You tube.

[PhillyFlyers]

Military Donors Prefer Ron Paul

http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2012/01/military-donors-still-prefer-paul.html

[Tully Mars 63]

Military donors preferred McCain last election... how'd that work out again?

[ABEHONEST]

Ron Paul is a southern born and bred. Don't count out those southern states as not being his. And, I believe Iowa is not a southern state but South Carolina is, plus many more.

Opps, born in Pittsburg, Pa, meaning, he's good to go in all states.

[Scorpion]

Thank god Michelle Bachmann quit, I hated that fuckking bitch
I hope Santorum quits too, fuckking psycho

[ABEHONEST]

Thank god Michelle Bachmann quit, I hated that fuckking bitch I hope Santorum quits too, fuckking psycho

Why, because she was from another World? So was Gore, and he missed by a Bush whisker of being our Prez.

[Tully Mars 63]

Paul's running about 8% in SC with the latest poll and 5% in Florida. Newts ahead of Romney right now in SC by pretty large numbers and they're nearly tied in Florida. Santorum is in the low single digits in both states. I think his numbers will rise quickly in SC, especially in the north of the state. If he does well there he could be the new poster boy for the GOP and gain money, infrastructure and party support.

Paul's likely going to get the same number of delegates in NH, SC and FL that he got in Iowa... zero.

[Dutch]

will he run as independent?

If it wasn't for Ross Perot Bush sr. would have won against Bill Clinton. I can't imagine Ron will ruin any chance his party has of defeating Obama.