Phillies overrated?

**Small Timer** · 06-09-11, 10:21 PM

**BRAVES1985** · 06-09-11, 10:21 PM

Originally posted by dlunc3

Like I said, he wasnt 3 or 4... can you read?

in the playoffs lowe is for sure a 1 or 2 starter

**BRAVES1985** · 06-09-11, 11:25 PM

Originally posted by dlunc3

leading the league in era is basically just saying that the braves make to many errors...

can you please explain this 1 to me

**kaijunn** · 06-09-11, 11:28 PM

just because you lost money on the phillies doesn't make them overrated

**BRAVES1985** · 06-09-11, 11:30 PM

cubbies

**MrShrink** · 06-09-11, 11:32 PM

the phillies are good.

**dlunc3** · 06-09-11, 11:32 PM

Originally posted by BRAVES1985

can you please explain this 1 to me

it came out wrong at the time..was trying to say that the phills and braves were tied for runs scored, but the reason the braves ERA was lower was bc they made more errors and era was not affected bc of those errors... but who knows if the braves would have given up runs without those errors?? either way, braves still have the better era.. but we will see come september how we are looking

**bozeman** · 06-09-11, 11:41 PM

yes today they were

**MikeZaW** · 06-09-11, 11:59 PM

errors killed them tonight .... no hitting .... but theyll heat up

**beerman2619** · 06-10-11, 12:15 AM

cubbies

. Can't really compare the Braves and Phillies pitching staffs. Braves starters are just as good if not better then Phillies rotation. But the edge in bullpens is a joke Braves by far better.

**dlunc3** · 06-10-11, 12:17 AM

Originally posted by beerman2619

cubbies

. Can't really compare the Braves and Phillies pitching staffs. Braves starters are just as good if not better then Phillies rotation. But the edge in bullpens is a joke Braves by far better.

You are a clown

**beerman2619** · 06-10-11, 12:18 AM

Dlunc you don't have a clue about baseball son. You want to try to argue the Phillies bullpen against the Braves

. Shut ur mouth and go to bed just let it go son.

**beerman2619** · 06-10-11, 12:18 AM

CUBBIES

. 2 games back son oh oh

**dlunc3** · 06-10-11, 11:38 AM

Do you have any idea what you are talking about at all??? Yes, I will admit and say the braves have a better pen.. But the phills young guns are looking good this year-- bastardo stutes madson and contreras are no joke. Your "amazing" bull pen has given up the exact same number of runs as the phillies have on the year and their ERA is only .33 better. The braves are ranked #2 and the phills #3.. I look at more then just 2 months of baseball though before making statements like you. I wont say that the phills have the 3rd best pen in baseball even though so far the stats say it. That would be foolish.. Much like you saying the braves rotation is just as good if not better then the phills. You have got to be an absolute moron to say that. Yes, the braves have a great rotation right now, but cmon, the phills have 4 guys that could be #1s for many teams. All four have proven that they are big game pitchers as well. You wanna go down the line just for the heck of it? Hallday > Jurrjens.... Lee > Hanson... Hamels > Lowe... Oswalt = Hudson (this one is close, though this yr oswalt would so far be better and has been a better big game pitcher in his career). So again... you are clown and cant back up a single retarded thing that comes out of your mouth.

**letsgo** · 06-10-11, 11:41 AM

Originally posted by beerman2619

cubbies

. Can't really compare the Braves and Phillies pitching staffs. Braves starters are just as good if not better then Phillies rotation. But the edge in bullpens is a joke Braves by far better.

What a joke.

**BRAVES1985** · 06-10-11, 05:20 PM

Originally posted by dlunc3

Do you have any idea what you are talking about at all??? Yes, I will admit and say the braves have a way better pen the phils couldnt hold the braves pens jock straps.. Yes, the braves have the best rotation right in mlb , but cmon, the phills have 4 guys that could be #2s for many teams. All four have proven that they are not big game pitchers as well. You wanna go down the line just for the heck of it? Hallday < Jurrjens.... Lee < Hanson... Hamels < Lowe... Oswalt = Hudson (this one is close, though this yr oswalt would so far be better and has been a better big game pitcher in his career). So again... you are one smart fuk and cant be wrong a single thing that comes out of your mouth.

finally you make sense

**beerman2619** · 06-10-11, 05:50 PM

Halladay over Jurrjens

. Jurrjens 8-2 with an era of 1.56 Cy young front runner. Halladay 8-3 era of 2.56. Quit living in the past kid now lets move on. Cliff Lee better then Tommy Hanson this season

since when? Hanson 7-4 with an era of 2.59 Lee 5-5 3.56 era we are talking this season son? Again you living in the past. Hamels, Oswalt both having better seasons then Lowe and Hudson i give you that.

Looks pretty even to me stats don't lie son.

Halladay 2.56 era Jurrjens 8-2 1.56 era
Lee 3.56 era 5-5 Hanson 7-4 2.59 era
oswalt era 3.05 3-4 lowe 3-4 3.73 era Hamelsera 2.58 8-2 hudson 4-5 era 4.14

**beerman2619** · 06-10-11, 05:53 PM

All four having provin they are not big time pitchers since when kid? Braves lost last season because of offense not pitching. Course there offense hasn't looked good this season either. Can say the same with the Phillies. Giants proved that last season they had a better pitching staff.

**BRAVES1985** · 06-10-11, 05:55 PM

Originally posted by beerman2619

All four having provin they are not big time pitchers since when kid? Braves lost last season because of offense not pitching. Course there offense hasn't looked good this season either. Can say the same with the Phillies. Giants proved that last season they had a better pitching staff.

and they also fuked lee in the ass in the WS

**letsgo** · 06-10-11, 06:05 PM

Braves will fade like they always do.

**BRAVES1985** · 06-10-11, 06:21 PM

Originally posted by letsgo

Braves will fade like they always do.

i could be wrong but im pretty sure they made the playoffs last year

**dlunc3** · 06-10-11, 07:31 PM

Originally posted by beerman2619

Halladay over Jurrjens

. Jurrjens 8-2 with an era of 1.56 Cy young front runner. Halladay 8-3 era of 2.56. Quit living in the past kid now lets move on. Cliff Lee better then Tommy Hanson this season

since when? Hanson 7-4 with an era of 2.59 Lee 5-5 3.56 era we are talking this season son? Again you living in the past. Hamels, Oswalt both having better seasons then Lowe and Hudson i give you that.

Looks pretty even to me stats don't lie son.

Halladay 2.56 era Jurrjens 8-2 1.56 era
Lee 3.56 era 5-5 Hanson 7-4 2.59 era
oswalt era 3.05 3-4 lowe 3-4 3.73 era Hamelsera 2.58 8-2 hudson 4-5 era 4.14

this must be your first yr ever watching baseball... Since when do we base who is better then who in 2 months of performance? you honestly say that jurrjens is better then the Doc?

that statement right there proves you are clueless..

Again, i guess Lance Berkman is better then Albert Pujols right? bc he has better numbers after two months?

You make yourself look like a fool

**beerman2619** · 06-10-11, 08:06 PM

Dlunc you stuck on stupid son? Seriously shut ur mouth and learn the game then post. Braves are the better team its obvious. You clowns win the division a couple times and talk smack now

. Phillies have been the Braves biotch for alot of years kid. Freddie Freeman rookie of the year along with Cy young winner Jair Jurrjens. Braves Phillies starters even. Braves bullpen by far better then Phillies. Batting slight edge to Braves better overall lineup especially when Heyward comes back. Phillies are old so old

**dlunc3** · 06-10-11, 08:08 PM

if all that is true, then why are the braves not in first? oh yea, the phills are... and now they are healthy

**dlunc3** · 06-10-11, 08:09 PM

oh and lance berkman is better then pujols right? or is that situation different?

**BRAVES1985** · 06-10-11, 08:10 PM

Originally posted by dlunc3

if all that is true, then why are the braves not in first? oh yea, the phills are... and now they healthy

ya healthy and lucky if they score 3 runs a game

now braves are beat up, phils are healthy and braves have gained 3.5 games in the standings

**dlunc3** · 06-10-11, 08:11 PM

and I guess you are smarter then experts too right? Phills have been 1 or 2 in the espn power rankings and braves have struggled to be top 10.. i guess they are all "stuck on stupid" too?

**dlunc3** · 06-10-11, 08:14 PM

Originally posted by BRAVES1985

ya healthy and lucky if they score 3 runs a game

now braves are beat up, phils are healthy and braves have gained 3.5 games in the standings

maybe im confused

arent the phills ahead of the braves in batting stats?

**BRAVES1985** · 06-10-11, 08:15 PM

so you think the yanks are the second best team cuz they are ranked 2nd in power rankings?????? hahahhaa

redsox are by far the best team in baseball phils are far behind them hate to break it to you

**BRAVES1985** · 06-10-11, 08:16 PM

cards are better the the phils as well

**dlunc3** · 06-10-11, 08:17 PM

I agree Sox are 1 and Phills are 2... Sox are a comfortable 1... but in a 7 game series, gotta hope the edge in pitching can matter.. not likely though

**dlunc3** · 06-10-11, 08:17 PM

noway the cards are better... they have great bats, but playoff baseball is about pitching you know that

**dlunc3** · 06-10-11, 08:18 PM

if wainwright didnt go down they would have been scary though.... even though im not sure old man berkman can keep it up..

**dlunc3** · 06-10-11, 08:18 PM

and their pen is a joke

**BRAVES1985** · 06-10-11, 08:19 PM

its fukin june stop talking like the playoffs start next week