Will you vote Barack Obama again???

[DwightShrute]

That's not an unbiased source. It's a liberal web site. There are many holes in the data that is presented there. It's slanted journalism.

For example, that page you link to mentions the budget during Clinton's term in office. The Republicans held both houses of Congress and voted for lower budgets than previous Democrat Conresses. Clinton fought them all the way until he realized that he wouldn't win in a battle against both houses so he signed the Republican-sponsored budgets.

But you won't find that at that slanted web site.

Please link to a credible source next time.

He knows that. It's a typical left wing (right wingers do it also) tactic to appeal to non thinkers. Anyone who believes Obama is doing a good job is extremely kidding themselves. Some try to fool others also.
They will say things like Obama ended the war in Iraq and he saved the country from a great depression which anyone knows is BS.

[losturmarbles]

obamas gotten a free ride? HUH?

every day I see and hear neocons like blame obama for the economy, iraq, unemployment, gaa prices, basically everything he has inherited. this would be like a new owner buying the raiders and being blamed for the past 8 years of excrement.

what's a neocon and tell me how Obama has done anything different? Bush and Obama are one in the same. Different rhetoric, same actions.

[Hotdiggity11]

Yes. Especially considering the awful candidates the GOP seem to be looking at.

[Hotdiggity11]

They will say things like Obama ended the war in Iraq and he saved the country from a great depression which anyone knows is BS.

Apparently you haven't been able to validate your claims about the economy. Why you would even bring it up again after dodging all the facts I gave in the other thread should have been a hint.

[rsnnh12]

Didn't vote for him before, no way in hell would I now. He's setting our country and economy up for failure. Most jobs being added are either temporary or government jobs. Instead of promoting business with tax breaks and other incentives, he thinks throwing money at it will fix the problem. It won't. When has the government ever run a successful business? They've added debt almost every single year since WW2. Amtrak? Never once turned a profit. USPS? Another failure. Why do people continue to trust these idiots with saving the economy? Put it in the hands of the people, and let it work itself out (which it will). It may take a little longer than throwing money at it, but it will be lasting progress, not the crap we have now

[andywend]

obama saved capitalism after bush plundered raped and nearly destroyed it.

Crustyme, this is probably the stupidest statement ever typed onto this forum.

Like most liberal democrats, you are an absolute useless idiot.

I completely understand why you support Obama as without the federal government, you would probably be panhandling on the side of the road.

[DwightShrute]

Apparently you haven't been able to validate your claims about the economy. Why you would even bring it up again after dodging all the facts I gave in the other thread should have been a hint.

I never dodged. Re read the post Hot.You never gave any facts. Just your interpretation of certain figures. I said something like "you will say this and I will say that and no one will convince the other"

[crustyme]

That's not an unbiased source. It's a liberal web site. There are many holes in the data that is presented there. It's slanted journalism.

For example, that page you link to mentions the budget during Clinton's term in office. The Republicans held both houses of Congress and voted for lower budgets than previous Democrat Conresses. Clinton fought them all the way until he realized that he wouldn't win in a battle against both houses so he signed the Republican-sponsored budgets.

But you won't find that at that slanted web site.

Please link to a credible source next time.

factcheck is a liberal website? proof?

last I checked factcheck.org is run by the annenberg foundation whose president was the late leonore annenberg who has contributed heavily towards reagan and mccain.

so how do u figure that its a liberal website? if anything it is a neocon website.

oh I see. U just dont like all the facts that make u guys look lile the liars crools and thieves so u just dismiss credible sites as run by liberals without knowing the facts.

btw the clinton budget was passed long before the neocons swept into office. they basically sat on their asses and repeaped the benefits.

[Hotdiggity11]

Most jobs being added are either temporary or government jobs.

Wrong.






On top of that, private business recorded record profits of 1.659 TRILLION dollars in the 3rd quarter of 2010.

[rsnnh12]

Wrong.






On top of that, private business recorded record profits of 1.659 TRILLION dollars in the 3rd quarter of 2010.

And how many of those private sector jobs are permanent, full time jobs? Your little chart doesn't address that. Fact is, many businesses are adding temp jobs until the health care situation gets resolved and the economy is somewhat strong again.

Many economists are worried about this problem, which is part of the reason a lot of them expected a double dip recession

[falconticket]

factcheck is a liberal website? proof? last I checked factcheck.org is run by the annenberg foundation whose president was the late leonore annenberg who has contributed heavily towards reagan and mccain. so how do u figure that its a liberal website? if anything it is a neocon website. oh I see. U just dont like all the facts that make u guys look lile the liars crools and thieves so u just dismiss credible sites as run by liberals without knowing the facts. btw the clinton budget was passed long before the neocons swept into office. they basically sat on their asses and repeaped the benefits.

Annenberg Public policy center run by Kathleen Jamieson gave 42 million to bill ayers and barrack to run the Chicago Annenberg Challenge. Website is practically run out of the white house now. Brooks Jackson the director is a "Neocon". Hilarious . I guess Huffington post is conservative too .

[Hotdiggity11]

And how many of those private sector jobs are permanent, full time jobs? Your little chart doesn't address that. Fact is, many businesses are adding temp jobs until the health care situation gets resolved and the economy is somewhat strong again.

Many economists are worried about this problem, which is part of the reason a lot of them expected a double dip recession

The jobs are as permanent as the private sector chooses them to be. Apparently the private sector isn't struggling too much, considering the relatively recent news of record profits and the gap disparity between the rich and everyone else continuing to grow.

[Hotdiggity11]

Annenberg Public policy center run by Kathleen Jamieson gave 42 million to bill ayers and barrack to run the Chicago Annenberg Challenge. Website is practically run out of the white house now. Brooks Jackson the director is a "Neocon". Hilarious . I guess Huffington post is conservative too .

This is the same organization that was made by Walter Annenberg, who was ambassador for Richard Nixon and a frequent guest of Ronald Reagan and Margarat Thatcher. Yeah, Annenberg gave 10s of millions to the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, he also gave tens of millions more to other cities. He reportedly donated over 2 billion during his lifetime. Don't try to paint Annenberg as some liberal organization, because it isn't.

[MendozaLine]

Well hopefully by 2012, I'll be living in another country.

But if I am still here, I would most definitely vote for Barack Obama again. Im a democrat. And im always going to vote democrat.

[rsnnh12]

The jobs are as permanent as the private sector chooses them to be. Apparently the private sector isn't struggling too much, considering the relatively recent news of record profits and the gap disparity between the rich and everyone else continuing to grow.

Except the private sector is waiting on decisions by the government... so no, the jobs aren't as permanent as they choose them to be. If Obamacare gets funded, private sector will lay people off. If taxes go up on the "rich", like Obama wants, private sector will lay people off. Or they will just close up shop. Why should they work that hard to have the government take over half of their income? Why should they invest money in other companies, if the capital gains tax is raised to almost 25%? There's too much risk there. And the economy will feel the effects of all of this.

That's why Ivy League economists are, in general, terrible in the real world... they know the theories in and out, but can't adjust to how the real world reacts to those theories. Look at Ben Bernanke. He's a joke

[King Mayan]

Crustyme, this is probably the stupidest statement ever typed onto this forum.

Like most liberal democrats, you are an absolute useless idiot.

I completely understand why you support Obama as without the federal government, you would probably be panhandling on the side of the road.

Don't mind anywend, he's an old fat disgruntled human being...

[falconticket]

This is the same organization that was made by Walter Annenberg, who was ambassador for Richard Nixon and a frequent guest of Ronald Reagan and Margarat Thatcher. Yeah, Annenberg gave 10s of millions to the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, he also gave tens of millions more to other cities. He reportedly donated over 2 billion during his lifetime. Don't try to paint Annenberg as some liberal organization, because it isn't.

Walter Annenberg has been dead since 2002, the Annenberg Public Policy center is a left wing supporting group now. Regardles of the Annenberg Foundation's many other beneficial centers.

[xkgb]

it ALL depends on who runs against him

[falconticket]

Herman Cain will have my vote.

[DwightShrute]

if ran against Obama, the dust buster would be a better choice

I will admit, Obama will apologize better that any vacuum and no dust buster ain't gonna win no peace prize.

[Hotdiggity11]

Walter Annenberg has been dead since 2002, the Annenberg Public Policy center is a left wing supporting group now. Regardles of the Annenberg Foundation's many other beneficial centers.

And the Chicago Annenberg Challenge was in the 1990s through 2001 thus he was alive at the time. Try again.

[rsnnh12]

I'm a fan of Col. Allen West out of Florida. Seems like a no-nonsense, pro-business conservative. Wouldn't mind seeing him paired up as Romney's VP candidate. Romney knows what a failure govt healthcare was when he tried to work with the Dems in MA and got it passed, and he would make sure it isn't implemented nationwide. I also like Paul Ryan, out of Minnesota I think. I love watching him pick apart Obama's financial plans and exposing them for what they are

[rsnnh12]

And the Chicago Annenberg Challenge was in the 1990s through 2001 thus he was alive at the time. Try again.

His point was that Annenberg is no longer alive, so he has no influence on the political leaning of the organization. Just because Annenberg supported conservatives, doesn't mean the next guy in charge does

[Hotdiggity11]

His point was that Annenberg is no longer alive, so he has no influence on the political leaning of the organization. Just because Annenberg supported conservatives, doesn't mean the next guy in charge does

And the example he gave of why he thinks it is a liberal organization was a project Annenberg set up in the 1990s [When the guy was still alive].

[nyed1010]

at these conservative idiots trying to discredit factcheck.org. They are as non-bias as your going to get in today's world. People that try to discredit factcheck.org are probably people that watch Hannity or Mr. Conspiracy theorist Glenn Beck and genuinely believe they are non-bias

[Hotdiggity11]

at these conservative idiots trying to discredit factcheck.org. They are as non-bias as your going to get in today's world. People that try to discredit factcheck.org are probably people that watch Hannity or Mr. Conspiracy theorist Glenn Beck and genuinely believe they are non-bias

Have to agree, it's pretty sad.

[MMAdisciple]

Vote him out during wars? Pass.

[Dirty Sanchez]

actually, social security is depleted thanks to bush raiding it and spendings a total of $1.37 trillion to fund his war.

Social Security is nothing more than a Ponzi Scheme....makes Madoff look like a piker. You wait and see when they raise the official "retirement" age to 65 or higher...it's coming....and those who are in that 55-61 range are about to get the flaming burrito up their asses whether they like it or not

[oiler]

without a dubt there is nobody out there better to vote for

[rsnnh12]

at these conservative idiots trying to discredit factcheck.org. They are as non-bias as your going to get in today's world. People that try to discredit factcheck.org are probably people that watch Hannity or Mr. Conspiracy theorist Glenn Beck and genuinely believe they are non-bias

Its as funny as the liberals who think Obama is actually helping the economy

[TexansFan]

Hell no, he's already the worst POTUS ever, the man is so clueless is almost laughable. President Pookie needs to stick with community organizing.

[shaggy3000]

didnt vote for him before and def wont vote for him now.

if he wins again it wont be a landslide. he hardly won last time. i know the news made it seem like he killed it but the voter % says otherwise. have a real hard time believe he stays in office. id honestly give him a 25% chance of staying in office.

[FuzzyDunlop]

On top of that, private business recorded record profits of 1.659 TRILLION dollars in the 3rd quarter of 2010.

While unemployment rose in the private sector. These companies are hoarding cash, not hiring and requiring employees to do the work of about 2.4 employees in terms of production.

[Hotdiggity11]

While unemployment rose in the private sector. These companies are hoarding cash, not hiring and requiring employees to do the work of about 2.4 employees in terms of production.

Pretty much.

[onetrickpony]

fuk no im not waking up for no fuking jury duty get the fuk outta here