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  • JAKEPEAVY21
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    • 03-11-11
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    #36
    After seeing the entire video, the situation easily could have been avoided. Hill was rude and dismissive from the start and kept telling them not to touch his window and repeatedly rolled it up when the officer was asking him to keep the window down.

    Bottom line is that if Hill was nice and respectful, he would have been on his way quickly. He acted like an ingrate and escalated the situation.
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    • Mac4Lyfe
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      • 01-04-09
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      #37
      ^ So being rude and dismissive are reasons for a phony cop to arrest a citizen? Why the fuk should Hill be nice and respectful to an unhinged cop? That cop was pissed off before he got to Hill's car. I'd tell him to fukk himself too for smearing his grubby hands on my car. What actual law did Hill break? Why do cops think they can order citizens to "Step and Fetch" and when they don't, they kill them.

      Cops should be trained to be professionals, especially when they confront obnoxious citizens. A good cop diffuses the situation. His job is to not take shit personal and escalate the situation. Cops also need to know the law. He had no legal right to ask a citizen to exit their vehicle without a warrant. He especially had no right to drag Hill out of his car, throw him to the ground, put a knee on him, put him face down and arrest him. That cop is fukked. He will be fired and the other cops reprimanded. The citizens of Miami will end up paying Hill and Calais Campbell a shit load of money because a stupid cop got his feelings hurt.
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      • Mac4Lyfe
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        • 01-04-09
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        #38
        Citizens have the right to be dumb, dicks and assholes. A public officer does not.
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        • Slurry Pumper
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          #39
          Yeah, I'm on the coppers side here. He'll their lucky that it didn't escalate more when his 300 pound teammate rolls up on them. If he just shut the he'll up and keep his windows down he wouldn't of had an issue.
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          • JAKEPEAVY21
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            • 03-11-11
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            #40
            Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
            ^ So being rude and dismissive are reasons for a phony cop to arrest a citizen? Why the fuk should Hill be nice and respectful to an unhinged cop? That cop was pissed off before he got to Hill's car. I'd tell him to fukk himself too for smearing his grubby hands on my car. What actual law did Hill break? Why do cops think they can order citizens to "Step and Fetch" and when they don't, they kill them.

            Cops should be trained to be professionals, especially when they confront obnoxious citizens. A good cop diffuses the situation. His job is to not take shit personal and escalate the situation. Cops also need to know the law. He had no legal right to ask a citizen to exit their vehicle without a warrant. He especially had no right to drag Hill out of his car, throw him to the ground, put a knee on him, put him face down and arrest him. That cop is fukked. He will be fired and the other cops reprimanded. The citizens of Miami will end up paying Hill and Calais Campbell a shit load of money because a stupid cop got his feelings hurt.
            Bottom line is Hill put himself in the situation. Bad things can happen if you open up that door.

            Why not just be respectful and go on your way?
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            • TommieGunshot
              SBR MVP
              • 03-27-12
              • 1604

              #41
              Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
              After seeing the entire video, the situation easily could have been avoided. Hill was rude and dismissive from the start and kept telling them not to touch his window and repeatedly rolled it up when the officer was asking him to keep the window down.

              Bottom line is that if Hill was nice and respectful, he would have been on his way quickly. He acted like an ingrate and escalated the situation.
              It is truly amazing that people here are ok with the government violating our rights and using violence against any of us just because we aren't "nice and respectful".

              Policemen are supposed to enforce laws, this ideology that wants them to enforce niceness and respect and put anyone who isn't nice and respectful in handcuffs is so bizarre. The people who think this way usually lack any sense of honesty and think it wouldn't have been ok for Hill to throw the policeman on the ground and put him in handcuffs because he wasn't "nice and respectful".

              The video showed no laws broken and it showed the policemen failing to deescalate. Either because they chose not to, or because they lacked the capacity to do so.
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              • super mario 48
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 10-01-20
                • 831

                #42
                Originally posted by Slurry Pumper
                As someone who grew up in Florida, I know that football trumps the law, so it is more likely that Hill was doing some serious shyt and before the coppers knew he was a needed football dude for Miami, they cuffed his ass and where getting ready to cart his ass off. Simple traffic citations don't typically end like that. I think they let him go and covered up whatever it was they had him on the ground cuffing him for,
                I think Miami Dolphins statement decrying 'policemen behavior' is a joke. Internally, the Dolphins probably spoke to Hill and told him he'll get terminated immediately if he gives the public/the PD reason to think he's still a thug. HE has to be on his best behavior, not the cops, for everyone involved to keep their jobs.

                So how did all of this being (public version).. he was doing 100 mph in a 40 mph zone?
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                • JAKEPEAVY21
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                  • 03-11-11
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                  #43
                  Originally posted by TommieGunshot
                  It is truly amazing that people here are ok with the government violating our rights and using violence against any of us just because we aren't "nice and respectful".

                  Policemen are supposed to enforce laws, this ideology that wants them to enforce niceness and respect and put anyone who isn't nice and respectful in handcuffs is so bizarre. The people who think this way usually lack any sense of honesty and think it wouldn't have been ok for Hill to throw the policeman on the ground and put him in handcuffs because he wasn't "nice and respectful".

                  The video showed no laws broken and it showed the policemen failing to deescalate. Either because they chose not to, or because they lacked the capacity to do so.
                  Show me where I said someone should be put in handcuffs for not being nice and respectful?

                  I said if you choose to be an asshole and not comply with law enforcement it opens the door to something bad happening. Why put yourself in that situation?

                  Right or wrong it is not very smart to be a dbag to police. Just show a modicum of respect and compliance.

                  The cops "failed to deescalate"? Tyreek was an asshole from the jump and put the officer on the defense...as stated numerous times, you put yourself in that situation, who knows what will happen. It is a far better option to just shut your mouth and get it over with and be on your way.

                  BTW, he was speeding along with a slew of other infractions.
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                  • VeggieDog
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                    • 02-21-09
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                    #44
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                    • TommieGunshot
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                      • 03-27-12
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                      #45
                      Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
                      Show us me where I said someone should be put in handcuffs for not being nice and respectful?
                      You follow up this question with four paragraphs making excuses for the government using violence against us.

                      Again, policemen are supposed to enforce laws, but it is quite clear your ideology wants them to escalate things as a way to enforce niceness, respect, and compliance.

                      I said if you choose to be an asshole and not comply with law enforcement it opens the door to something bad happening. Why put yourself in that situation?
                      This can only true when it involves bad policemen. If the policemen aren’t bad at their job, nothing bad will happen at the hands of the police when acting lawfully.
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                      • Headsterx
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                        • 12-03-16
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                        #46
                        Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                        Citizens have the right to be dumb, dicks and assholes. A public officer does not.
                        Completely true. And police should’ve been trained to ignore and/or de-escalate situations, especially the most common traffic situation when certain drivers are upset for being pulled over.

                        Also, I don’t know about Florida, but several states do not require a driver to roll down the window all the way as long as the officer is able to hear the driver with a decent opening of the window which was presented in this case. That police officer’s ego and feelings were hurt. He needs to seek a different line of work, if he can’t handle the public being angry or upset at him.
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                        • BigOrange
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                          • 08-13-09
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                          #47
                          Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
                          After seeing the entire video, the situation easily could have been avoided. Hill was rude and dismissive from the start and kept telling them not to touch his window and repeatedly rolled it up when the officer was asking him to keep the window down.

                          Bottom line is that if Hill was nice and respectful, he would have been on his way quickly. He acted like an ingrate and escalated the situation.
                          Hill was speeding recklessly in a crowded area near the stadium
                          Hill refused to roll down his window
                          Hill refused to get out of the car
                          Hill refused to sit down once he was out of the car


                          but.............let's all jump on the cops!
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                          • JAKEPEAVY21
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                            • 03-11-11
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                            #48
                            Originally posted by BigOrange
                            Hill was speeding recklessly in a crowded area near the stadium
                            Hill refused to roll down his window
                            Hill refused to get out of the car
                            Hill refused to sit down once he was out of the car


                            but.............let's all jump on the cops!
                            These woke lemmings never cease to amaze or take an ounce of personal responsibility.
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                            • JAKEPEAVY21
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                              • 03-11-11
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                              #49
                              Originally posted by TommieGunshot
                              You follow up this question with four paragraphs making excuses for the government using violence against us.

                              Again, policemen are supposed to enforce laws, but it is quite clear your ideology wants them to escalate things as a way to enforce niceness, respect, and compliance.



                              This can only true when it involves bad policemen. If the policemen aren’t bad at their job, nothing bad will happen at the hands of the police when acting lawfully.
                              You don't think a driver with dark limo tint rolling the window up doesn't set off safety alarms for law enforcement? The driver could be pulling a gun out of the glove compartment for all they know.
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                              • DwightShrute
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                                • 01-17-09
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                                #50
                                Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
                                After seeing the entire video, the situation easily could have been avoided. Hill was rude and dismissive from the start and kept telling them not to touch his window and repeatedly rolled it up when the officer was asking him to keep the window down.

                                Bottom line is that if Hill was nice and respectful, he would have been on his way quickly. He acted like an ingrate and escalated the situation.

                                100%!


                                Amazing how so many people think being a cop is easy. I have seen tons of videos where a traffic stop cost the like of the cop.

                                All Hill needed to do is obey the lawful order and he would have been on his way within a few short minutes. Hill escalated this.

                                <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Tyreek Hill Bodycam RELEASED! PROVES HE LIED!<br><br>He was clearly speeding and did not follow a single direction given to him by the officers.<br><br>The South Florida Police BA say Tyreek Hill was uncooperative with cops and initiated what happened. and that they stand with the actions of… <a href="https://t.co/Pw00sF0r9P">pic.twitter.com/Pw00sF0r9P</a></p>&mdash; Brandon Tatum (@TheOfficerTatum) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheOfficerTatum/status/1833330298173722754?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >September 10, 2024</a></blockquote><script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


                                "I am just being a Black man." What an idiot.

                                <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Clown behavior by Tyreek Hill. Takes zero responsibility for his actions (reckless driving and combative behavior towards the cops) and blames the consequences on racism. Don’t let your kids grow up to be like Tyreek. <a href="https://t.co/yBvg8paJvZ">pic.twitter.com/yBvg8paJvZ</a></p>&mdash; T.J. Moe (@TJMoe28) <a href="https://twitter.com/TJMoe28/status/1833323578692981168?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >September 10, 2024</a></blockquote><script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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                                • DwightShrute
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                                  • 01-17-09
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                                  #51
                                  100 percent the fault of Tyreek Hill. He was pulled over for speeding. Instead of just cooperating like a normal person he acted like a belligerent asshole and then rolled up his tinted windows while the cop was talking to him. He’s not a martyr. He’s a grown man behaving like a spoiled toddler. - Matt Walsh


                                  Perfectly said. ^
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                                  • batt33
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                                    • 12-23-16
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                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by TommieGunshot
                                    It is truly amazing that people here are ok with the government violating our rights and using violence against any of us just because we aren't "nice and respectful".

                                    Policemen are supposed to enforce laws, this ideology that wants them to enforce niceness and respect and put anyone who isn't nice and respectful in handcuffs is so bizarre. The people who think this way usually lack any sense of honesty and think it wouldn't have been ok for Hill to throw the policeman on the ground and put him in handcuffs because he wasn't "nice and respectful".

                                    The video showed no laws broken and it showed the policemen failing to deescalate. Either because they chose not to, or because they lacked the capacity to do so.


                                    Yes it does.....
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                                    • Mac4Lyfe
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                                      • 01-04-09
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                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by super mario 48
                                      So how did all of this being (public version).. he was doing 100 mph in a 40 mph zone?
                                      Stop it. The cops said he was going 60 in a 40. Which from the video, looks like BS to me. The other cars in front of him were going very slow, so it made it look like Hill was going faster. I bet he was probably going around 50 tops. Look how fast the cop caught up to him.
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                                      • Mac4Lyfe
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                                        • 01-04-09
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                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by DwightShrute
                                        100%!
                                        Amazing how so many people think being a cop is easy. I have seen tons of videos where a traffic stop cost the like of the cop.

                                        All Hill needed to do is obey the lawful order and he would have been on his way within a few short minutes. Hill escalated this.

                                        <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Clown behavior by Tyreek Hill. Takes zero responsibility for his actions (reckless driving and combative behavior towards the cops) and blames the consequences on racism. Don’t let your kids grow up to be like Tyreek. <a rel="nofollow" href="https://t.co/yBvg8paJvZ">pic.twitter.com/yBvg8paJvZ</a></p>&mdash; T.J. Moe (@TJMoe28) <a rel="nofollow" href="https://twitter.com/TJMoe28/status/1833323578692981168?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >September 10, 2024</a></blockquote><script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
                                        Being a cop is not easy but you must be a professional. Tyreek Hill being an asshat does not mean the police should be ones in return. As a police officer, you are trained to deescalate the situation, not fuel the fire. You are going to get angry people when you pull them over. Write the ticket and let them go. Cops got their feelings hurt, so resorted to physical violence. Good luck at your new job at Popeyes.

                                        Look at the car side window in the video above. Also look at the video. You can clearly see inside the car with the windows up. Cops just making excuses. Plus, there is no law that Hill has to keep his windows down. He gave you his DL. Right the ticket and move on. I will say again. Hill is an asshole. I know he's an dick. I don't expect trained professionals to be as well.
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                                        • Mac4Lyfe
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                                          • 01-04-09
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                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by BigOrange
                                          Hill was speeding recklessly in a crowded area near the stadium. I would not call going 60 mph on that road reckless.

                                          Hill refused to roll down his window. He rolled down his window and gave the officer his DL. Florida law does not require you to keep your window rolled down.

                                          Hill refused to get out of the car. The officer had no legal right to have him get out of the car and IMO didn't give him time.

                                          Hill refused to sit down once he was out of the car. He told the officers he had knee surgery, which is true. Good cops will accommodate citizens and not force them onto the ground.
                                          but.............let's all jump on the cops!
                                          Sorry, the only people jumping were the cops on top of Hill. The only people breaking the law once Hill was detained were the cops. Those cops are done. Bad cops don't get any donuts.

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                                          • Mac4Lyfe
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                                            • 01-04-09
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                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by DwightShrute
                                            All Hill needed to do is obey the lawful order and he would have been on his way within a few short minutes. Hill escalated this.
                                            Please explain to us what lawful order did Hill not obey???
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                                            • batt33
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                                              • 12-23-16
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                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                                              Please explain to us what lawful order did Hill not obey???
                                              Speeding.... Look at the video....
                                              disobeying a LAWFUL request by an officer... "ROLL DOWN YOUR WINDOW".... geez
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                                              • DwightShrute
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                                                • 01-17-09
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                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                                                Being a cop is not easy but you must be a professional. Tyreek Hill being an asshat does not mean the police should be ones in return. As a police officer, you are trained to deescalate the situation, not fuel the fire. You are going to get angry people when you pull them over. Write the ticket and let them go. Cops got their feelings hurt, so resorted to physical violence. Good luck at your new job at Popeyes.

                                                Look at the car side window in the video above. Also look at the video. You can clearly see inside the car with the windows up. Cops just making excuses. Plus, there is no law that Hill has to keep his windows down. He gave you his DL. Right the ticket and move on. I will say again. Hill is an asshole. I know he's an dick. I don't expect trained professionals to be as well.

                                                the only one's fueling the fire was Hill and then his buddy who pulled up ahead. You said it yourself, Hill was being an asshat. When you are being an asshat, then you are asking for it. He could have just been nice like 99.99% of driver's pulled over. He might have just been let off with a warning. But no. He wanted to be a dick because he makes a boat load of money playing football and drives an expensive car. Good for him. You can be all that and be a nice person to the police. Instead, he blames it on him being Black. Ohh poor Black man with all this money thinks he can roll down his window and then ignore the cop so that he can talk on his cell phone while he continuously taps on the window? What kind of asshole does that? I don't care that he was doing 60 in a 40. I speed all the time. I have gotten a few tickets in my life. Never, and I mean never, did I disrespect the cop. If I did, then I would expect something to happen.

                                                Yes I know there are shitty cops. There are shitty people in all sorts of occupations. Yes we all know cops are trained to deescalate things. You have no idea what happened a few minutes before. Do you know how many cops are killed and seriously injured because they are hit by other cars while they pulled another vehicle over? Its hot out, traffic is backed up, he might have been hit by several passing cars earlier. Who fukkin knows.

                                                All Hill had to do if be respectful. Put your phone away, here officer, here is my license and registration. Was I going too fast? I am sorry. I play for the dolphins. If he played it like that, it would have been just like thousands of traffic stops that day all across the country.

                                                Go ahead and blame cop. I am the biggest Dolphins fan and I can tell you Hill is to blame here.


                                                Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                                                Please explain to us what lawful order did Hill not obey???
                                                I posted the video. Watch it again perhaps. Maybe with the sound on? with CC on? I can only show you, I can't explain it for you also.
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                                                • b1slickguy
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                                                  • 11-24-11
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                                                  #59
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                                                  • Headsterx
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                                                    • 12-03-16
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                                                    #60
                                                    Can’t wait to read the police report: the subject was not nice and respectful so he was asking for it and I showed him.
                                                    🤣🤣🤣
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                                                    • veriableodds
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                                                      • 08-22-17
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                                                      #61
                                                      Went to the vape shop yesterday and bought some juice in honor.
                                                      -called ''BAD COP'' flavor profile is frosted doughnuts
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                                                      • DwightShrute
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                                                        • 01-17-09
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                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by b1slickguy
                                                        this guy in the video is only making a strong case against Hill. LOL.
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                                                        • TommieGunshot
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                                                          • 03-27-12
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                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by DwightShrute
                                                          100 percent the fault of Tyreek Hill. He was pulled over for speeding. Instead of just cooperating like a normal person he acted like a belligerent asshole and then rolled up his tinted windows while the cop was talking to him. He’s not a martyr. He’s a grown man behaving like a spoiled toddler. - Matt Walsh
                                                          These radical government apologists have some crazy ideologies. Hill did not break any laws after he was pulled over, but the policemen still used violence against him simply because he was exercising his legal rights. Rolling up a window is not a crime, even if a government worker is talking to you.
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                                                          • TommieGunshot
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                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by DwightShrute
                                                            the only one's fueling the fire was Hill and then his buddy who pulled up ahead. You said it yourself, Hill was being an asshat. When you are being an asshat, then you are asking for it.
                                                            Policemen enforce laws, they do not enforce being an asshat.

                                                            Originally posted by DwightShrute
                                                            He could have just been nice like 99.99% of driver's pulled over.
                                                            You have already made it clear that you desperately want the government to pass laws that require us to be nice. Neither Florida, nor the US has done that yet.

                                                            Originally posted by DwightShrute
                                                            Yes we all know cops are trained to deescalate things.
                                                            This means it was the policemen that intentionally violated their own training. But you expect the untrained person to be the one to apply appropriate de-escalation strategies.

                                                            Originally posted by DwightShrute
                                                            Do you know how many cops are killed and seriously injured because they are hit by other cars while they pulled another vehicle over?
                                                            Since 2000 there have been less than 200 non-covid officer deaths per year. About half of those are guns. That leaves less than 100 line-of-duty deaths for all other causes. I would guess less than 1 per year in most states and maybe 1 or 2 per year in larger states.
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                                                            • DwightShrute
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                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by TommieGunshot
                                                              These radical government apologists have some crazy ideologies. Hill did not break any laws after he was pulled over, but the policemen still used violence against him simply because he was exercising his legal rights. Rolling up a window is not a crime, even if a government worker is talking to you.
                                                              If Hill was cool, it would have been just another routine traffic stop. That's my take. I respect your opinion and I see what you're saying.

                                                              I think he says it the best ...

                                                              <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">All love to Hill, thank God the situation ended peacefully… but this should be shown to every black boy on how not to act when being pulled over, respectfully ����. It’s immature as black men to put our lives in the hands of officers in this way! Especially when you’re of his… <a href="https://t.co/djtDinqJ4y">https://t.co/djtDinqJ4y</a></p>&mdash; Jonathan Judah Isaac (@JJudahIsaac) <a href="https://twitter.com/JJudahIsaac/status/1833479742143492453?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >September 10, 2024</a></blockquote><script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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                                                              • DwightShrute
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                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by TommieGunshot
                                                                Policemen enforce laws, they do not enforce being an asshat.



                                                                You have already made it clear that you desperately want the government to pass laws that require us to be nice. Neither Florida, nor the US has done that yet.



                                                                This means it was the policemen that intentionally violated their own training. But you expect the untrained person to be the one to apply appropriate de-escalation strategies.



                                                                Since 2000 there have been less than 200 non-covid officer deaths per year. About half of those are guns. That leaves less than 100 line-of-duty deaths for all other causes. I would guess less than 1 per year in most states and maybe 1 or 2 per year in larger states.
                                                                Hill was speeding and wearing no seatbelt. The cop walked up to him and knocked on his window and Hill's first words were "don't knock on my window like that"! I mean WFT? Who the penetrate does he think he is? First off all, you have the window rolled down all the way when the cop walks up to you. Especially since you have tinted windows. The cop didn't knock on his window in any way which would be considered rude or not normal. Again, why would the cop need to even knock? He was just pulled over and the cop walked up to his window and Mr. Hill couldn't even bother to have his window rollod down? Give me a fukking break. Then the entire time he's going on and on playing some kind of victim rather than just being a decent person and respecting the cops.

                                                                In other words, if Hill had the window rolled down, handed the cop his license and registration, apologized for speeding, this wouldn't even be a story. No one would know except Hill and that one cop. Who knows, he might have even asked for his autograph in addition to his signature on teh ticket. Heck, he light have even let him off with a warning.

                                                                Let's say its a 100 cops, that is still someone dad, husband, son. Do you know how many road construction workers are injured and killed by speeders every year. I don't, but its a lot.
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                                                                • TommieGunshot
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                                                                  #67
                                                                  Originally posted by DwightShrute
                                                                  If Hill was cool, it would have been just another routine traffic stop. That's my take. I respect your opinion and I see what you're saying.

                                                                  I think he says it the best ...
                                                                  If policemen uses violence against us based on nothing more than whether we are cool or not, then it is clear that they are the problem, not the law-abiding citizen. These people you keep quoting that are so desperate to put the blame anywhere else are just a radical government apologists. It's fascinating you they've convinced you that if the government uses violence to violate our rights it is somehow our fault.
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                                                                  • TommieGunshot
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                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by DwightShrute
                                                                    Hill was speeding and wearing no seatbelt.
                                                                    Ticket was only based on visual estimate. The policeman either chose not to use radar or is hiding that evidence.

                                                                    Originally posted by DwightShrute
                                                                    The cop walked up to him and knocked on his window and Hill's first words were "don't knock on my window like that"! I mean WFT? Who the penetrate does he think he is?
                                                                    Since there is no law against that, law abiding citizens are the ones who do that. It is crazy that the radicals in our country want law enforcement to go rogue and enforcing whatever they want, even if there is no law against it.


                                                                    Originally posted by DwightShrute
                                                                    In other words, if Hill had the window rolled down, handed the cop his license and registration, apologized for speeding, this wouldn't even be a story.
                                                                    In other words, the policemen could have made it a non-story, but they chose to escalate simply because they were determined to enforce "being a decent person and respecting the cops", instead of enforcing laws.
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                                                                    • DwightShrute
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 01-17-09
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                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by TommieGunshot
                                                                      If policemen uses violence against us based on nothing more than whether we are cool or not, then it is clear that they are the problem, not the law-abiding citizen. These people you keep quoting that are so desperate to put the blame anywhere else are just a radical government apologists. It's fascinating you they've convinced you that if the government uses violence to violate our rights it is somehow our fault.
                                                                      that is a general statement and it would be hard to disagree with it. However, this doesn't apply here with what happened to Hill. Completely avoidable if he didn't act like he did. Simple.
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                                                                      • TommieGunshot
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                                                                        • 03-27-12
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                                                                        #70
                                                                        Originally posted by DwightShrute
                                                                        that is a general statement and it would be hard to disagree with it. However, this doesn't apply here with what happened to Hill. Completely avoidable if he didn't act like he did. Simple.
                                                                        Interesting that your ideology prevents you from accepting that it was also completely avoidable if the police didn't act like they did.

                                                                        But because the police work for the government, their actions are excusable; because Hill was not subservient to the government, the radicals will continue to blame him.
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