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  • pinnacle420
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 10-01-12
    • 6254

    #36
    It’s just wild!!! I know in ncaa hoops late points always affect the line but when it’s happening 7 out of every 10 games on the exact same shit it becomes very frustrating!!! Like not even kidding ask firedawg he has seen the way I’ve lost lately and it’s not even remotely close to being normal!!! Like every possible backdoor fukjob has happened the last month!!! Cover the whole way only to be bent over at the end with no Vaseline!! it really messes with a gamblers head seeing the same thing happen over and over again esp when you capped the game the right way too!! And guess who also was on Wyoming today.... this fuking guy was
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    • 2daBank
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 01-26-09
      • 88966

      #37
      Originally posted by pinnacle420
      It’s just wild!!! I know in ncaa hoops late points always affect the line but when it’s happening 7 out of every 10 games on the exact same shit it becomes very frustrating!!! Like not even kidding ask firedawg he has seen the way I’ve lost lately and it’s not even remotely close to being normal!!! Like every possible backdoor fukjob has happened the last month!!! Cover the whole way only to be bent over at the end with no Vaseline!! it really messes with a gamblers head seeing the same thing happen over and over again esp when you capped the game the right way too!! And guess who also was on Wyoming today.... this fuking guy was
      So it was your fukkin fault I lost! I been running so good and avoiding any those Fukk jobs. I knew outside forces had to be at play!!

      You a solid capper bro. It happens to all us from time to time, long as you grading your bets well afterwords (ie making the right plays). It will turn around. You know how this shit goes. I remember one year having a stretch where every under I bet went to ot. Lol
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      • pinnacle420
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 10-01-12
        • 6254

        #38
        Originally posted by 2daBank
        So it was your fukkin fault I lost! I been running so good and avoiding any those Fukk jobs. I knew outside forces had to be at play!!

        You a solid capper bro. It happens to all us from time to time, long as you grading your bets well afterwords (ie making the right plays). It will turn around. You know how this shit goes. I remember one year having a stretch where every under I bet went to ot. Lol
        Hahahahaha was 100% my fault on Wyoming bro lol I’ll be the scapegoat for sure lol and ya man we have both been around long enough to know about hot and cold streaks but this shit has just been as brutal as I have ever seen man!!! And you know me bro I have been through it all but this shit this year has really made me start hating sports bro!! Poker I have been nothing but gold at killing it racking everyone I have been playing!!! Sat earlier with 500.00 left with 3100.00 but it’s not the point... you know what I mean bro
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        • 2daBank
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 01-26-09
          • 88966

          #39
          Originally posted by pinnacle420
          Hahahahaha was 100% my fault on Wyoming bro lol I’ll be the scapegoat for sure lol and ya man we have both been around long enough to know about hot and cold streaks but this shit has just been as brutal as I have ever seen man!!! And you know me bro I have been through it all but this shit this year has really made me start hating sports bro!! Poker I have been nothing but gold at killing it racking everyone I have been playing!!! Sat earlier with 500.00 left with 3100.00 but it’s not the point... you know what I mean bro
          For sure. I’ve had to step away for a minute many times over the years! Take some breaths, keep killing poker and jump back in when you see a bowl game you love or something!!
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          • jjgold
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 07-20-05
            • 388189

            #40
            People have lost everything thinking they can beat the game

            Bet recreationally
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            • Big Bear
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 11-01-11
              • 43253

              #41
              Originally posted by jjgold
              People have lost everything thinking they can beat the game

              Bet recreationally
              life is hard JJ

              gambling is no different

              but tell me one aspect of life that isn’t incredibly hard?

              if making money by working for the man was easy nobody would gamble
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              • jjgold
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 07-20-05
                • 388189

                #42
                Bear true

                Let’s run Bear Down in Memphis
                Some of the same boys are still doing it
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                • The General
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 08-10-05
                  • 13279

                  #43
                  Recreationally you will lose lose and lose. Why even that. What is the point. Why do i do it. It makes no sense.
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                  • The General
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 08-10-05
                    • 13279

                    #44
                    A man can have a miserable life with women. Over and over again. But take puzzy away for a few months and the man is dreaming and romancing all the good sex that happened 1% of the time and ready to jump back in knowing that 3 days after the fire its the same old chit. Humans? Wtf
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                    • lakerboy
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 04-02-09
                      • 94368

                      #45
                      Originally posted by 2daBank
                      That fine but when one team covering the whole fukkin Game the ppl who benefited deserved to lose. I don’t mind dumb crazy shit when I made a suspect play. Don’t like losing ones that were absolutely the right side.

                      Like I recall having NW vs Stanford to start year and lost on a defensive score in last seconds of Game. It sucked but NW just wasn’t a very good bet so didn’t really sting that bad. Wyo today was a good bet, those sting more for me.
                      I had air force-11.5. I deserved to win. They won by 14 on a line that closed -13.5. They had chances to score as well but got fgs. I understand it was a tough loss but it was an even harder win. I guess the big td was LUCKY but so was the big return by Wyoming just before that.
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                      • gauchojake
                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                        • 09-17-10
                        • 34103

                        #46
                        I actually stopped playing poker for the exact reason you want to quit sports betting. I couldn't handle the swings and even more so the bad beats. It was emotionally draining.

                        Even with sports, I can't watch all the games. I have to just tune that shit out and check scores every now and again. As soon as I start getting obsessive about it, I just take a break. It's not worth the emotional energy.
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                        • Optional
                          Administrator
                          • 06-10-10
                          • 60827

                          #47
                          Originally posted by The General
                          Recreationally you will lose lose and lose. Why even that. What is the point. Why do i do it. It makes no sense.
                          Betting recreationally means it does not matter if you lose because this is the type of bettor who actually does not bet more than they can afford to lose and is in control.

                          And I think more "rec bettors" may actually beak even, or make a little money, than people imagine.

                          Rec bettors play forever, pros rarely last.


                          But you're comparing apples to oranges anyway... one person is spending on a hobby for enjoyment, the other is trying to earn a guaranteed income from a system that is designed to ensure they do not.
                          Last edited by Optional; 12-01-19, 02:24 AM.
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                          • cincinnatikid513
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 11-23-17
                            • 45360

                            #48
                            maybe u were betting too much bet more at what ur winning at poker and small stakes sports betting so ur still feeling alive
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                            • Gaze73
                              SBR MVP
                              • 01-27-14
                              • 3291

                              #49
                              Originally posted by gauchojake
                              I actually stopped playing poker for the exact reason you want to quit sports betting. I couldn't handle the swings and even more so the bad beats. It was emotionally draining.

                              Even with sports, I can't watch all the games. I have to just tune that shit out and check scores every now and again. As soon as I start getting obsessive about it, I just take a break. It's not worth the emotional energy.
                              I'm in the same boat. I wanted to be a poker pro first and was doing well but the variance was awful. I was constantly going under EV and the grind was soul draining. At least in betting you can hedge your bets live to reduce variance.
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                              • Bsims
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 02-03-09
                                • 827

                                #50
                                Seriously guys. I've been betting sports for 51 years. Some were good years, some were bad. I even quit for a few after losing enough that it threatened disrupting my real life. Then came the online sports books at the same time that I retired. The first few years were great. Some of those books were easy. You could make money on arbs and middles. I even found one book that allowed parlays on the 1st half and full time on the same game. But over time they all tightened up (blame Don Best), and now those good times are gone. I once read an article that said there were only 4 games in a casino that could be beaten.

                                1. Blackjack - if you counted cards.
                                2. Video Poker - if you played perfectly and took advantage of the perks.
                                3. Poker - if you were good enough to consistently beat the other players.
                                4. Sports Betting - ah, there it is.


                                They all share some common traits. They all take a lot of work and a lot of time. The casinos have made it much harder to do over time. The actual returns are relatively small and quite inconsistent (there's that variance again).

                                So, what do I do? Since I don't like interacting with other people, I only played Video Poker at casinos. Unfortunately my health situation will more than likely keep me from ever going to a casino again (the end is near). That leaves me with this computer in bed and sports betting.

                                My advice to all you young ones. Forget about beating it. Work hard and try to minimize your losses. Bet recreationally. Don't bet so much that it affects your real life. Make it a fun hobby. But balance that with other fun things. Enjoy life, it's wonderful. But it will pass more quickly than you think.
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                                • jjgold
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 07-20-05
                                  • 388189

                                  #51
                                  BSIms great post
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                                  • PittsburghPlayer
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 01-11-10
                                    • 6760

                                    #52
                                    not for us older fukkers GoldDust



                                    Bsims, Don`t you think it would be better to advise the younger guys to bet all in, all the time?
                                    and on favorites all the time, especially all big games?

                                    should help loosen the lines
                                    can`t hurt
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                                    • vivaporto
                                      SBR High Roller
                                      • 09-02-19
                                      • 187

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by pinnacle420
                                      In the last 30 days I’ve seen some of the worst beats humanly possible.... buzzer beaters for blown covers... guys fumbling at the 1 yard line for game winners... kickers missing 30 yard field goals for covering overs... the list goes on and on... I’ll make thousands playing poker and just give it back betting on these monkeys in sports... today I announce I’m retiring from betting on sports!!! I’ll be focusing full time on playing high limit hold em and Omaha... this year I’m up high 5 figures playing poker and down about the same about betting on these uneducated monkeys... I will no longer be betting sports!!! I did great for over 15 years of betting on these clowns but this season has opened my eyes completely!! So I hope everyone can kick some ass betting sports but it’s just not for me anymore!!! If you guys ever feel like getting racked at 2-4 hold em I’ll be at betonline grinding it out
                                      Degenerate gamblers never quit. As long as you have money you will bet. I am certain you will bet on sport again before the year is over when you find a game that you think is too good of a line. Sports betting is winnable if bettors change the way they think, have different perspectives, have self control and discipline. Those things that you mention are variables in the game. A handicapper who reels on those little moments in the game and can't get over it is not handicapping properly. Someone like this will fail in poker too if mostly playing among stiffer competition but rake on and enjoy against the weaker opponents.
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                                      • Itsamazing777
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 11-14-12
                                        • 12602

                                        #54
                                        Bsims used his post for the year
                                        the oracle will take no more questions
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                                        • Madison
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 09-16-11
                                          • 6397

                                          #55
                                          I've survived a long long time. I have easily wagered over 1M and I'm still in the game. 2 words Discipline and Volume or actually lack thereof "Volume". Action kills. Those who pick their spots carefully have a chance. BOL, it took me quite a while to figure this out. Hope this helps.
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                                          • coolguy73739
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 01-11-16
                                            • 1677

                                            #56
                                            If you can figure out why a number is kept where it is kept, You can win long term..
                                            For example, Opening line for a game of total of 220 is why 220 and not 210 or 230, try and figure out.. if you know the answer, you are in the league of Sharps..
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                                            • biggie12
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 12-30-05
                                              • 13784

                                              #57
                                              video poker????? LOL serious sims were u playing to make an hourly rate or just trying to get free meal and board and the occasional washed out enteRtainer. . LOL
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                                              • biggie12
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 12-30-05
                                                • 13784

                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by jjgold
                                                BSIms great post
                                                yeah the last sentence. lol sorry sims your out of the loop
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                                                • BeatTheJerk
                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                  • 08-19-07
                                                  • 31794

                                                  #59
                                                  (9) BeatTheJerk 43-27-6 61.43 % W 4 +20.32

                                                  Some years it's beatable. Low volume & higher flat amounts help me stay in the game.
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                                                  • Sam Odom
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 10-30-05
                                                    • 58063

                                                    #60
                                                    We should all quit gambling

                                                    Die with some $$$
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                                                    • Sam Odom
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 10-30-05
                                                      • 58063

                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by Bsims


                                                      Enjoy life, it's wonderful. But it will pass more quickly than you think.

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                                                      • jjgold
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 07-20-05
                                                        • 388189

                                                        #62
                                                        consensus low volume but most cannot do it
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                                                        • pinnacle420
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 10-01-12
                                                          • 6254

                                                          #63
                                                          I’ll obviously be back at it betting sports again sometime but it’s gonna be very low volume.... I’m a degen I will never be able to just not do it lmao but I’m gonna stick to poker for the time being... at least with cards I control the action and if I choose to play a hand or not... with these monkeys on the court and field I can’t control what they do at all and that’s the difference
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                                                          • KVB
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 05-29-14
                                                            • 74817

                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by jjgold
                                                            consensus low volume...
                                                            Yeah and we know that the way to win at sports is to do what everyone else agrees to do.


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                                                            • Otters27
                                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                              • 07-14-07
                                                              • 30749

                                                              #65
                                                              NCAA hoops real hard
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                                                              • bruceBRUCEbruce
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 06-20-09
                                                                • 2560

                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by Bsims
                                                                Seriously guys. I've been betting sports for 51 years. Some were good years, some were bad. I even quit for a few after losing enough that it threatened disrupting my real life. Then came the online sports books at the same time that I retired. The first few years were great. Some of those books were easy. You could make money on arbs and middles. I even found one book that allowed parlays on the 1st half and full time on the same game. But over time they all tightened up (blame Don Best), and now those good times are gone. I once read an article that said there were only 4 games in a casino that could be beaten.

                                                                1. Blackjack - if you counted cards.
                                                                2. Video Poker - if you played perfectly and took advantage of the perks.
                                                                3. Poker - if you were good enough to consistently beat the other players.
                                                                4. Sports Betting - ah, there it is.


                                                                They all share some common traits. They all take a lot of work and a lot of time. The casinos have made it much harder to do over time. The actual returns are relatively small and quite inconsistent (there's that variance again).

                                                                So, what do I do? Since I don't like interacting with other people, I only played Video Poker at casinos. Unfortunately my health situation will more than likely keep me from ever going to a casino again (the end is near). That leaves me with this computer in bed and sports betting.

                                                                My advice to all you young ones. Forget about beating it. Work hard and try to minimize your losses. Bet recreationally. Don't bet so much that it affects your real life. Make it a fun hobby. But balance that with other fun things. Enjoy life, it's wonderful. But it will pass more quickly than you think.
                                                                good post
                                                                Best of luck to you, Bsims
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                                                                • jjgold
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 07-20-05
                                                                  • 388189

                                                                  #67
                                                                  all books love volume players

                                                                  They hate spot players
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                                                                  • lakerboy
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 04-02-09
                                                                    • 94368

                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by jjgold
                                                                    all books love volume players

                                                                    They hate spot players
                                                                    Spot players don't hit 100%
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                                                                    • lakerboy
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 04-02-09
                                                                      • 94368

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by Otters27
                                                                      NCAA hoops real hard
                                                                      Impossible. Waste of time until tournament
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                                                                      • BeatTheJerk
                                                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                        • 08-19-07
                                                                        • 31794

                                                                        #70
                                                                        Originally posted by lakerboy
                                                                        Spot players don't hit 100%
                                                                        We know you’re on your high horse today with your impressive wins/wagers , but 55% is good enough to make a respectable amount of money if you are betting 4 figures. 5 figures even better I hope to get there one day.
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