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  • Buckandadime
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    • 04-21-15
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    #211
    Originally posted by 2daBank
    Always the question and I find incredibly hard to answer. I do think they gonna have more success hitting big chunk plays than sustaining lot of long ones cause smu run d does some things surprisingly well, their problem is they also get gashed for big ones and poor gap discipline vs navy a recipe for disaster.

    I do think we should expect a clean game from navy qb after last week nightmare. I went back and watched replay of the ND game and wasn’t as if they had problems moving the ball, it was just the turnovers buried them in a huge hole. Turns out that game wasn’t nearly the ass kicking I thought/appeared to be. Perry took full responsibility for it as you would expect a navy kid and think he will play much better here.

    Can smu continue matching them if navy plays clean and every smu drive leaves has no margin for error? That would be my question and I think the answer is no, they will make mistakes that allows navy to push a lead. Navy gets up a few scores and it game over imo. No smu comeback here as navy will then bleed them!
    Any thoughts on the total?
    Can/will Navy chew up the clock for an under or do they get the big chunk plays and the first half is a score for score shootout, hoping adjustments can be made at halftime?
    Total is 67 now.. Dropped 1..
    1H is 34.5..
    Pass?
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    • 2daBank
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      • 01-26-09
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      #212
      Originally posted by Buckandadime
      Any thoughts on the total?
      Can/will Navy chew up the clock for an under or do they get the big chunk plays and the first half is a score for score shootout, hoping adjustments can be made at halftime?
      Total is 67 now.. Dropped 1..
      1H is 34.5..
      Pass?
      huge pass for me. Smu totals make little sense to me but go over every freaking week (as in 9-0-1 to over!). I usually find the military academies totals tough as well, so I gots no clue.
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      • U2.5
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        • 02-21-14
        • 1953

        #213
        Originally posted by Buckandadime
        Any thoughts on the total?
        Can/will Navy chew up the clock for an under or do they get the big chunk plays and the first half is a score for score shootout, hoping adjustments can be made at halftime?
        Total is 67 now.. Dropped 1..
        1H is 34.5..
        Pass?
        my concern is if SMU decides to go against their run first strategy and passes the ball after seeing what ND did to navy. If SMU runs like they usually do it might stay under. Just don't know because SMU runs a really fast hurry up offense even though they mostly run the ball. They get a lot of plays off and their defense isn't really that good.
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        • 2daBank
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          • 01-26-09
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          #214
          Originally posted by U2.5
          my concern is if SMU decides to go against their run first strategy and passes the ball after seeing what ND did to navy. If SMU runs like they usually do it might stay under. Just don't know because SMU runs a really fast hurry up offense even though they mostly run the ball. They get a lot of plays off and their defense isn't really that good.
          Like I said. Smu a pain in the ass total wise. Although their passing numbers seem to be on big uptick. I’ve never understood all year how the hell they run it so much, don’t typically run for a big ypp average, yet somehow fly over those 60s totals!! (Seriously not one under all year!!). But as you said they go fast and generally run a ton of plays.

          Far as their defense the run d actually grades very well in some metrics but they give up a ton of explosive plays which obviously lends itself to overs. Last 3 weeks they have allowed over 7 ypp and 2 of those games were ecu and Houston!

          Think I’m far more comfy w navy side than total although I am a little hesitant to lay more than a fg. Smu passing game has to be licking their chops after seeing last week, but do they have a weapon similar to that big white boy Irish had who navy had no answer for? I do feel like if navy can keep the pressure on smu to score every time they the team who gonna make few mistakes this week. Ultimately gotta respect that 16 in a row on senior day for navy don’t ya? That is very Pats after a loss number to me!!
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          • mikmik
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            • 05-13-12
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            #215
            Any plays tonight? So much to read lol
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            • 2daBank
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              • 01-26-09
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              #216
              Originally posted by mikmik
              Any plays tonight? So much to read lol
              CSU 1st half +3.5 for me. There some post on it a page or 2 back
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              • 2daBank
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                • 01-26-09
                • 88966

                #217
                Originally posted by Cuse0323
                Doing everyone on CSU a favor, and all in on Wyoming -5.5
                Long as I get 1st half you can have Game. I’d love to hear why you think wyo is all in worthy here tho? Hopefully this a situation where “all in” isn’t much?
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                • JayDr3am
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                  • 05-06-14
                  • 18260

                  #218
                  colorado state is now +5.5. couldve got +6.5 last night. now its definitely a pass full game for me. i was hoping id wake up and see +7. still like your first half angle goodluck
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                  • 2daBank
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                    • 01-26-09
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                    #219
                    Originally posted by JayDr3am
                    colorado state is now +5.5. couldve got +6.5 last night. now its definitely a pass full game for me. i was hoping id wake up and see +7. still like your first half angle goodluck
                    Early bird gets the cheese pal, lol. I don’t like trying to read much into lines as I always say they have never decided a game but not gonna lie i wouldn’t been thrilled to see it hit 7.
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                    • Buckandadime
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                      #220
                      Originally posted by U2.5
                      my concern is if SMU decides to go against their run first strategy and passes the ball after seeing what ND did to navy. If SMU runs like they usually do it might stay under. Just don't know because SMU runs a really fast hurry up offense even though they mostly run the ball. They get a lot of plays off and their defense isn't really that good.
                      Thanks Banker
                      4/L5 in the series has gone over..
                      I'm gonna tease it to 60 and hope they both come out swingin..
                      I got a problen.. Lol
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                      • 2daBank
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                        • 01-26-09
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                        #221
                        Originally posted by Buckandadime
                        Thanks Banker
                        4/L5 in the series has gone over..
                        I'm gonna tease it to 60 and hope they both come out swingin..
                        I got a problen.. Lol
                        Every smu game has gone over all year! Lol. Im the type who thinks surely the number getting inflated and they gonna make one they can’t reach but certainly not getting in way of that! Gl bro
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                        • Buckandadime
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                          #222
                          ^^^^^^
                          That was supposed to be with Bankers reply
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                          • 2daBank
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                            • 01-26-09
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                            #223
                            Originally posted by Buckandadime
                            ^^^^^^
                            That was supposed to be with Bankers reply
                            We got it
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                            • JayDr3am
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                              • 05-06-14
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                              #224
                              Originally posted by 2daBank
                              Early bird gets the cheese pal, lol. I don’t like trying to read much into lines as I always say they have never decided a game but not gonna lie i wouldn’t been thrilled to see it hit 7.
                              early bird gets the cheese. i thought it was the worm bank?? lool

                              now, the only thing that worries me is the line is right where it needs to be.
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                              • Cuse0323
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                                • 12-09-09
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                                #225
                                Originally posted by 2daBank
                                Long as I get 1st half you can have Game. I’d love to hear why you think wyo is all in worthy here tho? Hopefully this a situation where “all in” isn’t much?
                                Only $260. I was going all in on the game no matter what side I took. Debated CSU ML, but just think I like the edge with the running game better. Throw in Wyoming doing well in TO margin, and that gives them the edge for me. CSU can probably pass on them, but I’m thinking they turn it over a couple times. Wyoming at home in a rivalry game should be focused, and can see their weak pass D stepping up to make a couple plays.
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                                • Eddy Munny
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                                  • 08-13-13
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                                  #226
                                  Some -3.5's starting to pop up now for Missouri, my main book still showing -4 though.
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                                  • U2.5
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                                    • 02-21-14
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                                    #227
                                    Originally posted by JayDr3am
                                    early bird gets the cheese. i thought it was the worm bank?? lool

                                    now, the only thing that worries me is the line is right where it needs to be.
                                    was gonna say, early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.
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                                    • 2daBank
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                                      #228
                                      Originally posted by Cuse0323
                                      Only $260. I was going all in on the game no matter what side I took. Debated CSU ML, but just think I like the edge with the running game better. Throw in Wyoming doing well in TO margin, and that gives them the edge for me. CSU can probably pass on them, but I’m thinking they turn it over a couple times. Wyoming at home in a rivalry game should be focused, and can see their weak pass D stepping up to make a couple plays.
                                      They prob will turn it over a few times but wyo offense doesn’t really scare me enough to think it matters far as game being close: I could see cowboys pulling away late but I just like them much better as dogs than favs. They just what I want in a dog, not so much as a fav. Hope we both cash.
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                                      • 2daBank
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                                        • 01-26-09
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                                        #229
                                        Originally posted by U2.5
                                        was gonna say, early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.
                                        I know what the freakin sayin supposed to be, hence the “lol” afterwords. I didn’t realize my apparently poor joke was gonna lead to lessons on proper sayings!!! lol.
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                                        • JayDr3am
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                                          • 05-06-14
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                                          #230
                                          hahahahahahahahahahaha
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                                          • 2daBank
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                                            #231
                                            Originally posted by Eddy Munny
                                            Some -3.5's starting to pop up now for Missouri, my main book still showing -4 though.
                                            Figured it could only go down. Ton of Vols love out there. I’m in no hurry. We see where it goes.
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                                            • U2.5
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                                              • 02-21-14
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                                              #232
                                              Originally posted by 2daBank
                                              I know what the freakin sayin supposed to be, hence the “lol” afterwords. I didn’t realize my apparently poor joke was gonna lead to lessons on proper sayings!!! lol.
                                              lol its just funny when you think about the saying, ' second mouse gets the cheese'. first one dead in the trap.
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                                              • Cuse0323
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                                                • 12-09-09
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                                                #233
                                                Originally posted by 2daBank
                                                They prob will turn it over a few times but wyo offense doesn’t really scare me enough to think it matters far as game being close: I could see cowboys pulling away late but I just like them much better as dogs than favs. They just what I want in a dog, not so much as a fav. Hope we both cash.
                                                Hope so too. I know very little about either team outside of what I’ve read this week. My gut just said jump on them when I saw it drop to 5.5. Like you said earlier about some advice you got, I’ll take what the books put the line at over what the money moved it to. I forget what it opened at. I know I saw 7.5 at one point. I’d love a blowout in the 2nd half, but could see it being a 6-7 point win. I wouldn’t have played it at 6.5, so the books probably trapped my ass. Oh well, the deed is done.
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                                                • Eddy Munny
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                                                  • 08-13-13
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                                                  #234
                                                  Originally posted by 2daBank
                                                  Figured it could only go down. Ton of Vols love out there. I’m in no hurry. We see where it goes.
                                                  If the Tigers players care about the season and aren't ready to mail it in, I really like them in this spot. It's hard to judge where their heads are at after recent results, but from some player comments I've read they really like coach Odom so maybe we'll get a spirited effort from them in their last home game... I'm considering going big on this game, a gut feeling kinda bet. -3.5 is probably the best we'll see and I'm okay with that.
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                                                  • JayDr3am
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                                                    #235
                                                    Originally posted by Cuse0323
                                                    Hope so too. I know very little about either team outside of what I’ve read this week. My gut just said jump on them when I saw it drop to 5.5. Like you said earlier about some advice you got, I’ll take what the books put the line at over what the money moved it to. I forget what it opened at. I know I saw 7.5 at one point. I’d love a blowout in the 2nd half, but could see it being a 6-7 point win. I wouldn’t have played it at 6.5, so the books probably trapped my ass. Oh well, the deed is done.
                                                    if this line goes to 4.5 i may flip and get on wyo.
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                                                    • ElJefe305
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                                                      • 08-08-19
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                                                      #236
                                                      Originally posted by 2daBank
                                                      We like “homer plays” from guys that bring good info as you are! We just don’t like the blind homer dipshits!

                                                      I’ve always said fans of teams should be a great resource for us but unfortunately too many of them have emotional blinders both ways. Some like a moron Vikings homer I won’t mention refuses to say anything negative about his team and totally useless to us. Others so damaged they can never see the good!! You sound like one the rare reasonable ones I wish we had more of! Welcome to thread.
                                                      Hahaha thanks man I try to be as level headed as possible when dealing with the 'Canes but sometimes the emotions get the best of me. I might look for a live play in the Texas Baylor game, maybe if Baylor scores a quick TD taking the Horns +13 or something idk. Anyways I'll be at the Miami game tomorrow and pumped for the tailgate! Game will be weird to watch in a baseball stadium but at least it will be a new experience.
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                                                      • ElJefe305
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                                                        • 08-08-19
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                                                        #237
                                                        Originally posted by fecgp40
                                                        I'm going to jump on the homer bandwagon here and agree Miami covers vs. FIU. If Jaren William's plays anything like he has been, Miami should put up 50 + with ease against FIU.
                                                        I wanna say 50 for sure but anything less than 40 would be pretty unacceptable against FIU's defense. As bad as our O-line play has been this season, it's actually starting to come along nicely. FSU and Louisville we looked more physical in the run game and the pass blocking is so much better it actually gives Williams time to read through his progressions. FIU has a terrible run defense and I expect Deejay Dallas to have a field day tomorrow night. Not sure if Brevin Jordan is playing (he's listed as a game time decision) but it's a game we really don't need him to play through any discomfort.

                                                        I'm thinking like 24-3 at half, and we cruise in the 2H while FIU gets their only TD of the game late in garbage time. Hope I'm right lol.
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                                                        • 2daBank
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                                                          • 01-26-09
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                                                          #238
                                                          Originally posted by ElJefe305
                                                          Hahaha thanks man I try to be as level headed as possible when dealing with the 'Canes but sometimes the emotions get the best of me. I might look for a live play in the Texas Baylor game, maybe if Baylor scores a quick TD taking the Horns +13 or something idk. Anyways I'll be at the Miami game tomorrow and pumped for the tailgate! Game will be weird to watch in a baseball stadium but at least it will be a new experience.
                                                          Not sure if I mentioned it here or someplace else I post but was talking with someone and actually mentioned horns might be a good game to wait and look live since I do think bears have big potential to wear down. I will prob end up playing Texas before kick for smaller than normal to save some for a live or halftime opportunity as well. I do think horns gonna end up making my card tho, Baylor just isn’t built for or excel in the home fav role.
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                                                          • stevenash
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                                                            • 01-17-11
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                                                            #239
                                                            Originally posted by 2daBank
                                                            What number get on navy?
                                                            -3 (-110 and that’s reduced juice)

                                                            UConn just went from +13.5 to +15 in a New York minute.
                                                            Very interesting just shot by +14.
                                                            I can’t bet my hometown clusterfucks though.
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                                                            • 2daBank
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                                                              • 01-26-09
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                                                              #240
                                                              Originally posted by Eddy Munny
                                                              If the Tigers players care about the season and aren't ready to mail it in, I really like them in this spot. It's hard to judge where their heads are at after recent results, but from some player comments I've read they really like coach Odom so maybe we'll get a spirited effort from them in their last home game... I'm considering going big on this game, a gut feeling kinda bet. -3.5 is probably the best we'll see and I'm okay with that.
                                                              He must buy them hookers or something cause i can’t stand him. lol.

                                                              I agree tho and as I’ve mentioned it wouldn’t be the 1st time under him they had this type of blah looking season then win the last 2 vs the crappier sec teams which I still believe Vols are one of despite others insistence they now good which I don’t buy, better than they were at beginning of season is in no way good imo.

                                                              Not gonna be a huge bet for me by any stretch but I do think tigers are the right side and will most likely be on them. I’m fine with any number lower than -6 but still no hurry play it cause I don’t see it going higher and who knows, maybe we get lucky and some -3s pop 2marro.
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                                                              • 2daBank
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                                                                #241
                                                                Originally posted by stevenash
                                                                -3 (-110 and that’s reduced juice)

                                                                UConn just went from +13.5 to +15 in a New York minute.
                                                                Very interesting just shot by +14.
                                                                I can’t bet my hometown clusterfucks though.
                                                                Someone I respect was trying to make a case for UConn and I couldn’t help but laugh and say “why why why even try?”. Lol
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                                                                • 2daBank
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                                                                  #242
                                                                  Originally posted by JayDr3am
                                                                  if this line goes to 4.5 i may flip and get on wyo.
                                                                  I wouldn’t let line Fukk wit ya bud. Really think CSU has a good shot at outright, I been wrong before but not much with Wyoming this year! Lol
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                                                                  • fecgp40
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                                                                    • 02-01-11
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                                                                    #243
                                                                    Originally posted by 2daBank
                                                                    He must buy them hookers or something cause i can’t stand him. lol.

                                                                    I agree tho and as I’ve mentioned it wouldn’t be the 1st time under him they had this type of blah looking season then win the last 2 vs the crappier sec teams which I still believe Vols are one of despite others insistence they now good which I don’t buy, better than they were at beginning of season is in no way good imo.

                                                                    Not gonna be a huge bet for me by any stretch but I do think tigers are the right side and will most likely be on them. I’m fine with any number lower than -6 but still no hurry play it cause I don’t see it going higher and who knows, maybe we get lucky and some -3s pop 2marro.
                                                                    Watching Daily Wager on ESPN for some good fades. One of the guys I love to fade, Joe Fortenbough is on Tennessee as his best bet for the weekend. Mizzou it is!! Your buddy Preston Johnson is on BC +21 though which honestly looks pretty good to me. Ugh.
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                                                                    • mkracier
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                                                                      #244
                                                                      Banker can you post your plays?
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                                                                      • 2daBank
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                                                                        • 01-26-09
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                                                                        #245
                                                                        Originally posted by fecgp40
                                                                        Watching Daily Wager on ESPN for some good fades. One of the guys I love to fade, Joe Fortenbough is on Tennessee as his best bet for the weekend. Mizzou it is!! Your buddy Preston Johnson is on BC +21 though which honestly looks pretty good to me. Ugh.
                                                                        lol. I like bc too. Matter fact even tho im up to bout 6th place in that ml dog contest i talk about I’m still far enough behind leader I need another home run so I went w BC ml. Not actually betting it but prob will be on them w the points. They been great under this coach off a bye, also been good vs Irish. Def think we finally got Irish lines back inflated thanks to their last few.

                                                                        Seems like al kinds of touts and other feeling Vols, i don’t get it cause lot the same ppl were on mizzou last week where I said I hated that play. lol. Seems like folks just way off w tigers. Dunno how you trust them to stay within 7 of gators but think Vols best them? Who would back Vols vs gators under a td? I damn sure wouldn’t!!
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