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  • juicername
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    • 10-14-15
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    #71
    Originally posted by JoeCool20


    LOL Buddy, you keep on "guessing" at which lines you think are "common sense bad lines" and you avoid betting them!


    LOL I'd never do that dumb sheit in favor of the S-book, and it's hard to believe you really would either!


    But maybe you are that obtuse!
    You don't avoid betting obvious bad lines as a favor to the sportsbook. It's a lose-lose proposition for you. If you can't spot obvious bad lines betting might not be for you.
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    • JoeCool20
      SBR MVP
      • 05-31-18
      • 4440

      #72
      Originally posted by juicername
      You don't avoid betting obvious bad lines as a favor to the sportsbook. It's a lose-lose proposition for you. If you can't spot obvious bad lines betting might not be for you.

      LOL If you have an account somewhere and you are trying to "guess" at which lines you deem to be "obvious bad lines" so you can make sure & not bet them, then I KNOW betting is not for you!
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      • juicername
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 10-14-15
        • 6906

        #73
        Originally posted by JoeCool20
        LOL If you have an account somewhere and you are trying to "guess" at which lines you deem to be "obvious bad lines" so you can make sure & not bet them, then I KNOW betting is not for you!
        Keep doing what you're doing then, how's that working out for you?
        Not too well would be my guess considering you're the one here starting threads about how the sportsbooks are trying to scam you even though they're just following t&c you agreed to when you signed up ...
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        • JoeCool20
          SBR MVP
          • 05-31-18
          • 4440

          #74
          Originally posted by juicername
          Keep doing what you're doing then, how's that working out for you?
          Not too well would be my guess considering you're the one here starting threads about how the sportsbooks are trying to scam you even though they're just following t&c you agreed to when you signed up ...

          LOL PLEASE read my previous posts so you don't make a fool of yourself like that! I've already addressed this once man geez!

          I didn't do it! (But I would!) It was ANOTHER poster who saw a live line NOT change after a score and then he bet it, not me!

          Then they voided the bets, but they also cheated him out of a live bet that he made BEFORE there was a score!


          And obviously, you goof-ball, nowhere in the "terms & conditions" of a sportsbook does it say "the player is responsible for avoiding placing wagers on lines that we put up & allow wagering on but later we decide we fuk-ed up on." LOL
          Come on man!

          The thread is about people on here calling him a "cheat" and saying he "took a shot" at the book, all because he bet a line that THEY put out & offered up for wagering on!

          That is stupid. the player is not responsible for trying to "guess" at which lines are "good" or "bad" and he certainly is not a "cheat" for making a bet on a line that was AVAILABLE for him to bet on!

          I'll clear it up more in my next post.
          Last edited by JoeCool20; 06-16-18, 02:07 AM.
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          • JoeCool20
            SBR MVP
            • 05-31-18
            • 4440

            #75
            But I WILL try and explain it to you & jts1207 (& anyone else) It won't do any good. But here goes!

            I'm not "against" anybody that would avoid betting a live line that they think is "obviously" erroneous.
            I'm just saying that I WOULD bet it anyway for the simple fact that I'm not the one that is supposed to "guess" at which lines are bad. Or even "obviously bad"!! I'm only there to try to bet & win.

            And I KNOW that you people are talking about live lines that didn't change after a score and you think they "obviously should have changed" after a score, so you'd avoid betting it. Well ok, It's fine that you people would avoid betting those lines if you thought it was an "obvious mistake" by the S-book. But you don't know FOR SURE that a line is "obviously bad" until THEY tell you it is!! So why the hell would you avoid betting it??!!

            I'm just saying that I STILL WOULD bet a line EVEN if I took it upon myself to think that I "should know" that it was a "bad line".

            Why? because #1 How do I know they'll call it a "bad line" and not honor the bet until they don't? and #2 Why WOULDN'T I bet it? Because I didn't want to hurt the poor S-book? LOL I DO want to hurt them! Out of all the money that I can!

            The thread is not about what lines should be seen as "obviously bad" or not. The thread is about people on here calling him a "cheat" and saying he "took a shot" at the book, all because he bet a line that THEY put out & offered up for wagering on!

            That is stupid. The player is not responsible for trying to "guess" at which lines are "good" or "bad" and he certainly is not a "cheat" for making a bet on a line that was AVAILABLE for him to bet on. Whether he think it was "obviously a bad line" or not, he will never know until they come back and tell him they aren't paying the bet!

            THAT is what the thread is about! Is dumbasses on here calling the guy a "cheat" and siding with the sportsbook when all he did was bet a line that was AVAILABLE to bet on!
            You people can have sympathy for the poor sportsbooks and "guess" at every line you want to! And you can avoid betting on the lines that you "guess" are "obvious bad lines" .

            But don't call a fellow player a "cheat" because he DID bet it! That's stupid!

            IT'S NOT THE PLAYERS RESPONSIBILITY TO "GUESS" AT WHICH LINES HE THINKS ARE "BAD" OR EVEN "OBVIOUSLY BAD" AND AVOID BETTING THEM! THAT'S STUPID!!

            And he sure as hell shouldn't be called a "cheat" or "taking a shot at the book" because he bet a line that was AVAILABLE for him to bet on!

            Now is it cleared up! Sheez!
            Last edited by JoeCool20; 06-16-18, 02:24 AM.
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            • TheMoneyShot
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              • 02-14-07
              • 28672

              #76
              Time to leave JoeCool...

              Bro.. you're getting your sh#$ pushed in

              No leg to stand on pal.
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              • juicername
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 10-14-15
                • 6906

                #77
                JoeCool20, stop betting bad lines and you have nothing to worry about. And stop being a cheat, you give bettors everywhere a bad reputation.
                Last edited by juicername; 06-16-18, 02:29 AM.
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                • JoeCool20
                  SBR MVP
                  • 05-31-18
                  • 4440

                  #78
                  Originally posted by juicername
                  JoeCool20, stop betting bad lines and you have nothing to worry about. And stop being a cheat, you give bettors everywhere a bad reputation.

                  LOL I've told you twice already that some other guy made the bets, not me, and to stop making a fool of yourself!


                  And I told you I'd explain it but it wouldn't do any good!

                  I guess you really can't read! Either that or you are incredibly stupid.
                  Last edited by JoeCool20; 06-16-18, 04:47 AM.
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                  • 19th Hole
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 03-22-09
                    • 18937

                    #79
                    Joe Cool rollin'...
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                    • JoeCool20
                      SBR MVP
                      • 05-31-18
                      • 4440

                      #80
                      Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
                      Time to leave JoeCool...

                      Bro.. you're getting your sh#$ pushed in

                      No leg to stand on pal.


                      LOL there is neither a "leg to stand on" or not! Either you WOULD or you WOULDN'T send your money to a sportsbook and then start "guessing" at which lines you thought were "bad" and avoid betting those lines!!

                      I don't care which one that your dumb ass, or anybody else would choose to do!!

                      LOL I'd bet any line that they offered because nobody asked me to appoint myself the "bad line guesser". But I don't care who would avoid certain lines that they decided to "guess" and "Assume" were "bad lines" for the poor sportsbook!


                      LOL And I sure wouldn't call somebody a "cheat" for betting lines that the sportsbook put out!

                      Because in that case EVERY ONE of us who has ever bet a line that they put out is a "cheat"!

                      LOL Some of you people are so dumb I really don't know how you have stayed alive this long!
                      Last edited by JoeCool20; 06-16-18, 04:50 AM.
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                      • JoeCool20
                        SBR MVP
                        • 05-31-18
                        • 4440

                        #81
                        But I guess I couldn't have asked for anymore out of a thread I created!

                        I'll admit I never thought I'd see someone post that they would send their money into a sportsbook and then AVOID betting certain lines that THEY took it upon themselves to "judge" and "guess at" and decide that they were "bad lines" when NOBODY said they had to do that!

                        WOW! So incredibly stupid!
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                        • JoeCool20
                          SBR MVP
                          • 05-31-18
                          • 4440

                          #82
                          Originally posted by juicername
                          JoeCool20, stop betting bad lines and you have nothing to worry about. And stop being a cheat, you give bettors everywhere a bad reputation.

                          LOL Who's responsibility is it to decide which lines are "bad" & not bet them? Certainly not the PLAYERS like me & you!!

                          Buddy, if you are sending your money to a sportsbook and then avoiding placing bets on lines that you have taken it upon yourself to "guess" that they are "bad lines", when you have no clue whether they are "bad lines" or not, then you should REALLY never bet again!

                          Nobody ever told you to try and "guess" at which lines you think you should avoid betting on!! And if you really do that, You are dumb as hell.
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                          • JoeCool20
                            SBR MVP
                            • 05-31-18
                            • 4440

                            #83
                            Originally posted by sourtwist
                            I know the details

                            The line was wrong, and was knowingly played anyway

                            Are there any other details that matter, you fukkin moron?

                            LOL Since the line was posted and bets were allowed to be placed, then how would you ever know "The line was wrong, and was knowingly played anyway" until the S-book came back and canceled the bet and stole your money?
                            You COULDN'T ever know until then!!!

                            So I guess the only other detail that matters is whether you are saying that you would send your money into a sportsbook and then you would start "guessing" at which lines were "bad lines" and which one's weren't when nobody ever said you had to do that?

                            Nobody ever told you to try and "guess" at which lines you think are "bad" and then avoid betting on them!!
                            And if you really do that, You are dumb as hell.
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                            • bonz
                              SBR Sharp
                              • 06-09-17
                              • 324

                              #84
                              Joe Cool your arguing with 100 dollar betters in players talk.
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                              • bonz
                                SBR Sharp
                                • 06-09-17
                                • 324

                                #85
                                Its all a racket anyhow. Better ways to make money. You'll thank me in 20 years
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                                • bonz
                                  SBR Sharp
                                  • 06-09-17
                                  • 324

                                  #86
                                  No nice houses. No nice cars. Nope. Good times for sure though.
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                                  • bonz
                                    SBR Sharp
                                    • 06-09-17
                                    • 324

                                    #87
                                    You can always grind out a shitty living like Teddy S. Silly.
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                                    • JoeCool20
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 05-31-18
                                      • 4440

                                      #88
                                      LOL Good posts bonz! I don't care what goof-balls on here post about siding with the sportsbook and "blaming" the player for placing a certain bet! LOL
                                      Some of The PLAYERS siding with the sportsbook and "blaming" the player for placing a bet??
                                      I never thought I'd see such stupidity like that posted, but I don't give a sheit what idiocy some dumbass-stranger posts on here!

                                      It DOES seem wild to me that some people say that they would send their money into a sportsbook and then AVOID betting certain lines! Because THEY decided to take it upon themselves to "judge" and "guess at" and assume that they were "bad lines" when NOBODY said they had to do that!

                                      That's really too dumb to believe!
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                                      • bonz
                                        SBR Sharp
                                        • 06-09-17
                                        • 324

                                        #89
                                        Lol i had a double post wire for $9900 15 years ago from a top 5 book here....and 4500 from bet islands as well before they closed. Well color me happy there's a seat for two.
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                                        • PAULYPOKER
                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                          • 12-06-08
                                          • 36581

                                          #90
                                          I see a lot of rhymes with "Bills or Steals or Kills" in this thread......
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                                          • bonz
                                            SBR Sharp
                                            • 06-09-17
                                            • 324

                                            #91
                                            Nope. They all got 100 grand + anyhow.
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                                            • jjgold
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 07-20-05
                                              • 388179

                                              #92
                                              BOOKS RULE WELL THE Top 7 DO
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                                              • LVHerbie
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 09-15-05
                                                • 6344

                                                #93
                                                God I ramble like hell and I couldn’t make it through all your posts. JoeCool you understand the points system here right? You aren’t pro so maybe you don’t.... Anyhow you understand where all that money comes from right? It isn’t a perfect system but it is the best we got....

                                                Hell a lot of posters get pissed off by various shit and run away and hide elsewhere (fukk there are several smaller forums where they all congregate together)... You can file complaints anonymously and I would give odds that when they had issues with books many have come straight back to SBR to ask for help.
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                                                • bonz
                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                  • 06-09-17
                                                  • 324

                                                  #94
                                                  Just sharing experience. Good books pay. Sometimes more. Long ride though. Lol looking back good times though.
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                                                  • bonz
                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                    • 06-09-17
                                                    • 324

                                                    #95
                                                    ....and Harry, Trent, Jimmy, wheever you are out there....penetrate you too.
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                                                    • pavyracer
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 04-12-07
                                                      • 82728

                                                      #96
                                                      It's been like that forever. If a player wins the book had an "error" in their line. If the player loses the book doesn't refund the money for the erroneous line.
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                                                      • ex50warrior
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 10-10-09
                                                        • 3821

                                                        #97
                                                        Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                        It's been like that forever. If a player wins the book had an "error" in their line. If the player loses the book doesn't refund the money for the erroneous line.
                                                        Yep, venting may help blow off steam but won't change how it goes.
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                                                        • packerd_00
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 05-22-13
                                                          • 17804

                                                          #98
                                                          Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                          It's been like that forever. If a player wins the book had an "error" in their line. If the player loses the book doesn't refund the money for the erroneous line.
                                                          This is true.
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                                                          • PAULYPOKER
                                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                            • 12-06-08
                                                            • 36581

                                                            #99
                                                            Won't be very long before the players are wearing the pants....


                                                            The books will be lining up, fighting one another just to suck our cacks
                                                            for as little as $10 worth of action.......
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                                                            • JoeCool20
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 05-31-18
                                                              • 4440

                                                              #100
                                                              Originally posted by LVHerbie
                                                              God I ramble like hell and I couldn’t make it through all your posts. JoeCool you understand the points system here right? You aren’t pro so maybe you don’t.... Anyhow you understand where all that money comes from right? It isn’t a perfect system but it is the best we got....


                                                              Hell a lot of posters get pissed off by various shit and run away and hide elsewhere (fukk there are several smaller forums where they all congregate together)... You can file complaints anonymously and I would give odds that when they had issues with books many have come straight back to SBR to ask for help.


                                                              LOL If I understood all of that I'd reply to it.

                                                              All I can say is who cares whether you donate $100 to become a "pro" on here or not? I'm not here to gain points so I can get a damn pizza card! I just got back from little caesars with my own damn pizza for $5!

                                                              The point is the goof-balls on here siding with the damn sportsbook and calling one of their fellow players a "cheat" when they have NO IDEA whether or not the S-book really cheated their fellow player! That's INSANE to me!!
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                                                              • JoeCool20
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 05-31-18
                                                                • 4440

                                                                #101
                                                                Originally posted by jjgold
                                                                BOOKS RULE WELL THE Top 7 DO


                                                                LOL Straight from the guy who gets paid by those 7 books! Hell if they paid me, I'd "suck up" to them and make excuses for them too! LOL You let em' tap that asss anytime they want it!! It's all about the cash!

                                                                But as for me, I'm just a player trying to beat the damn books, not "take up" for them because they are paying me, or make stupid excuses for them when they cheat people.
                                                                Last edited by JoeCool20; 06-16-18, 06:27 PM.
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                                                                • jtoler
                                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                  • 12-17-13
                                                                  • 30967

                                                                  #102
                                                                  ive noticed that the dumbest threads on this site gets the most replies
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                                                                  • JoeCool20
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 05-31-18
                                                                    • 4440

                                                                    #103
                                                                    Originally posted by jtoler
                                                                    ive noticed that the dumbest threads on this site gets the most replies

                                                                    LOL Now you have gone on a forum MADE for posts and decided to appoint yourself the "Judge" of which posts are dumb and which one's aren't?


                                                                    LOL Now how "dumb" is that? I think you just defined what "dumb" really is!!
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                                                                    • icon
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 01-09-18
                                                                      • 3427

                                                                      #104
                                                                      Originally posted by jtoler
                                                                      ive noticed that the dumbest threads posters on this site gets the most replies
                                                                      yep
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                                                                      • LVHerbie
                                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                        • 09-15-05
                                                                        • 6344

                                                                        #105
                                                                        Originally posted by JoeCool20
                                                                        LOL If I understood all of that I'd reply to it.

                                                                        All I can say is who cares whether you donate $100 to become a "pro" on here or not? I'm not here to gain points so I can get a damn pizza card! I just got back from little caesars with my own damn pizza for $5!

                                                                        The point is the goof-balls on here siding with the damn sportsbook and calling one of their fellow players a "cheat" when they have NO IDEA whether or not the S-book really cheated their fellow player! That's INSANE to me!!
                                                                        Joe, it is actually quite simple. if you see a live line that should be -240 and is +240 you shouldn't bet it. If you see a straight bet in a major sport 40 cents off market you shouldn't bet it. Props you can (and should) get more lead way. (Humblegbrag: I ran the $500 I had in deposit at a top tier book up to $5000 betting the account over and over again on a -500 prop that should be -2500 before they pulled it - they paid me off and still take my action to this day. If you can handle compounding math feel free to figure out how many bets that was...)


                                                                        Still, even with props, at some point there is a limit with what they are going to tolerate. Yes it sucks but that is how it works offshore. If you want to bet bad lines move to Vegas where they forced to honor your bet but conversely are going to phone-in and sweat every bet over $500 and won't take future bets from you if don't "voluntarily" give back the ticket...

                                                                        You posting style causes headaches so I haven't read everything but I'm assuming you been told several times if you don't follow the above advice you are sitting yourself to get freerolled by the book (which some of the more shady books will do)? If the above is too much for you (not grasping the the points system here kindof indicates that...) and you don't know when a +240 should be -240 bodog is a great home for you. Yes it sucks that you might lose a rare +240 bet when they probably should be eating it as a cost of keeping a square happy but try to toughen up some because there is still lots of free money laying around if you ever get clued in.

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