Supreme Court Approves State Sports Betting

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  • Hman
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 11-04-17
    • 21429

    #246
    Originally posted by KRIT
    Ok I'm going to ask a bunch of dumb questions because I don't follow this at all.

    Which states do we expect to move forward with gambling? What is the forecast for my state, Washington State?

    Where will the places to place bets be? Inside of casinos like in vegas, or are these going to be whole in the wall places where you can place a bet at a counter like you would take out food?

    Can we expect to see it in NBA/NFL/MLB arenas and stadiums?


    This will help in seeing which states have already been preparing:

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    • A Quant
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      • 05-14-18
      • 1357

      #247
      Originally posted by jjgold
      All the leagues now want cuts the lines are going to be terrible


      Any serious gambler has to play offshore he has no choice
      How many offshore books can handle serious money? 3?

      How many offshore books won't cut the limits the moment an edge guy starts to win?

      The idea that the offshore industry has a ton of pro shops isn't all that accurate.
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      • Swinging Johnson
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        • 08-12-09
        • 7604

        #248
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        • 19th Hole
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          • 03-22-09
          • 18949

          #249
          • David Purdum
          • Ryan Rodenberg


          The Supreme Court has issued a ruling in the
          New Jersey sports gambling case
          and declared that the
          Professional and Amateur Sports Protection Act (PASPA)
          is unconstitutional, leaving states to decide individually
          if they want to offer sports betting.


          What does this mean?
          Here are the top-level takeaways from your biggest questions about the ruling:


          Can I bet on single-game sports with a legal bookmaker in the United States?

          Yes, but right now only if you're in Nevada. Be patient, though. That will change quickly. New Jersey expects to be up and running within weeks -- potentially in time for the NBA Finals -- and many more states are likely to follow.

          But didn't sports betting just become legal across the U.S.?

          The Supreme Court invalidated the federal prohibition on state-sponsored sports betting (PASPA). It is now up to the states to decide for themselves on the issue, in the same way they choose whether to offer lotteries and other forms of gambling. More than a dozen states introduced sports betting legislation early in 2018. Connecticut, Delaware, Mississippi, Pennsylvania and West Virginia join New Jersey as the states furthest along in the process of passing laws to regulate sports betting.

          • Here is ESPN Chalk's one-stop shop of all relevant content, following the Supreme Court's ruling in favor of New Jersey.



          What about if I live in or go to New Jersey?

          You will be able to bet with a legal operator at Atlantic City casinos and the state's racetracks as soon as they are ready to go. Monmouth Park racetrack plans to be open for business within weeks of the Supreme Court ruling. Most operators will target football season to be up and running. Stay tuned.


          I don't live in Nevada or New Jersey. When can I place a bet on a game?

          It's going to depend on how quickly your state, if interested in sports betting, can pass legislation. Some states, such as Delaware and Pennsylvania, are ahead of the game with their legislation, but even those are probably months away from that translating into taking legal bets. And if your state has yet to introduce legislation, it could be quite a while before this happens for you.

          Can I bet online and on my phone with a legal bookmaker?

          Eventually. The majority of interested states plan to offer online and/or mobile wagering, and industry experts predict most bets will be placed online in the future. In New Jersey, existing brick-and-mortar locations will need some time to obtain software, install apps and establish procedures for the deposits and payouts. The process could take months.


          How do the sports leagues feel about legalized sports wagering?

          There is a divide among the leagues. The NBA and MLB are spearheading a state-by-state lobbying effort, supporting legislation to legalize sports betting as long as it includes certain stipulations beneficial to the sports leagues. The PGA Tour recently joined the NBA and MLB lobbying coalition, with the MLS and UFC among the other sports leagues that have spoken favorably about legalization. Before the Supreme Court ruling, the NFL, NHL and NCAA had remained mostly quiet on the issue. NCAA president Mark Emmert has openly discussed the potential for a carveout for college sports in any future betting legislation.
          What do the NBA and MLB want?
          They prefer a consistent set of regulations that provide sports governing bodies with the ability to restrict or prohibit betting on league events; data rights; and a percentage of the amount bet on league events paid by operators.
          Will legalization lead to increased match-fixing and point-shaving scandals?
          Only time will tell, but proponents -- including the NBA -- believe a legal, heavily regulated market overseen by licensed officials is the better approach to protecting the integrity of sport than the illegal market that has been serving most of the U.S. for the past quarter century.





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          • Philmill
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            • 09-30-11
            • 4275

            #250
            Originally posted by unlearn
            Oh the irony of all the conservatives bashing liberals itt. You do realize your redneck states will never pass sports gambling because they still believe in Jesus in 2018
            Like this old peace of shit (Utah Orrin Hatch)

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            • franklee168
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 03-06-11
              • 5544

              #251
              Legalize weed, check.
              Legalize gambling, check.
              Prostitution next!
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              • jtoler
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                • 12-17-13
                • 30967

                #252
                Originally posted by franklee168
                Legalize weed, check.
                Legalize gambling, check.
                Prostitution next!
                and then pedophilia and the roman empire is complete
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                • JIBBBY
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 12-10-09
                  • 83686

                  #253
                  Originally posted by franklee168
                  Legalize weed, check.
                  Legalize gambling, check.
                  Prostitution next!
                  Sounds like Las Vegas Nevada now.

                  Named sin city for a reason.. lol..
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                  • daneblazer
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                    • 09-14-08
                    • 27861

                    #254
                    Not sure this is going to be as great as everyone is making it out to be.
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                    • hubie69
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                      • 09-16-10
                      • 7329

                      #255
                      Originally posted by unlearn
                      Oh the irony of all the conservatives bashing liberals itt. You do realize your redneck states will never pass sports gambling because they still believe in Jesus in 2018
                      This isn't exactly accurate. Conservative's \*should\* be all in favor of less government. Conservative's aren't the problem here, Republicans are. Conservatives != Republicans.
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                      • WolfTicketDealer
                        SBR Sharp
                        • 11-05-17
                        • 384

                        #256
                        Originally posted by Philmill
                        Like this old peace of shit (Utah Orrin Hatch)

                        http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-actio...-supreme-court
                        Don't forget about Bill Frist and Jon Kyl tacking UIGEA onto an unrelated bill.

                        It's all about money. Nothing else.
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                        • sourtwist
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                          • 11-10-12
                          • 9364

                          #257
                          Originally posted by jtoler
                          that is correct, it only dents us humans
                          Lol

                          Are we even really humans?

                          I don't know anymore
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                          • JIBBBY
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 12-10-09
                            • 83686

                            #258
                            Originally posted by hubie69
                            This isn't exactly accurate. Conservative's \*should\* be all in favor of less government. Conservative's aren't the problem here, Republicans are. Conservatives != Republicans.
                            I'm a conservative Republican and believe in Jesus 2018 and I'm all in favor of less Government and legalizing everything.. People should be allowed to do what they want within the law as long as they aren't hurting others!!

                            I look at Amsterdam with the legalization of drugs and they have it regulated and under control. That's just one example..

                            Mostly though I HATE being forced by law to do these things - like wear a seat belt when riding in a car, wear a helmet when riding a motorcycle, sign onto Obamacare or be fined, etc...

                            Most of these forced mindless regulations were brought into power by Liberals and Democrats. I hate it!!! Freedoms being taken away are the worst!!!
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                            • BriGuy
                              SBR MVP
                              • 12-06-11
                              • 1556

                              #259
                              Originally posted by Natty68
                              My dumb question. Foxwoods has already said there moving quickly to get a book operational. I live next state over. Could I get the sportsbook app right off
                              then just drive down highway til I get over Connecticut state line, stop at the first rest stop over state line and put my bets in from there?
                              1) CT still has some negotiating to do with Foxwoods/Mohegan on this matter. They disagree as to the amount of revenues to be shared.

                              2) Having sports gambling does not automatically mean mobile betting is allowed

                              3) If sports gambling is legalized and if they allow mobile bets then technically yes, you should be able to drive over state line and place your bets. HOWEVER it is not a perfect technology. Sometimes the nearest cell towers put you in the wrong state. I used to go to Reno every weekend but I could never get the mobile betting to work because the system always thought I was in California (even when I was trying to place the book from within the hotel itself).
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                              • TheMoneyShot
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                                • 02-14-07
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                                #260
                                Originally posted by Hman
                                This will help in seeing which states have already been preparing:

                                https://www.legalsportsreport.com/sp...-bill-tracker/
                                Great link. Thanks
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                                • jtoler
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                                  • 12-17-13
                                  • 30967

                                  #261
                                  Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                  I

                                  I look at Amsterdam with the legalization of drugs and they have it regulated and under control.
                                  just a few medicinal drugs are legal there
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                                  • Derailer
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                                    • 10-04-17
                                    • 422

                                    #262
                                    Originally posted by jjgold
                                    All the leagues now want cuts the lines are going to be terrible


                                    Any serious gambler has to play offshore he has no choice
                                    The sports leagues thought they had final say in this. They can put their hands out but chances of getting anything now is pretty small.
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                                    • JIBBBY
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 12-10-09
                                      • 83686

                                      #263
                                      Originally posted by jtoler
                                      just a few medicinal drugs are legal there
                                      Yeah I know but Amsterdam is way ahead of the curve on legalization compared to the rest of the world.. Red light district too.. That Country is doing just fine and mostly all the citizens aren't out of control with substance abuse, etc....
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                                      • BigdaddyQH
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                                        • 07-13-09
                                        • 19530

                                        #264
                                        Originally posted by jjgold
                                        Offshore is going to grow like you’ve never seen
                                        JJ. How f**king stupid can you possibly be? This will kill offshore gaming because there will be no need for it. I seriously doubt that you even have a clue as to what the options the State has are. Do you know? I think it is time to run you out of here. You attract too many idiots in here like yourself.
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                                        • cincinnatikid513
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 11-23-17
                                          • 45360

                                          #265
                                          jj talking up the off shore books like he's trying to sell you some blue star airline stock
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                                          • JIBBBY
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 12-10-09
                                            • 83686

                                            #266
                                            Originally posted by BigdaddyQH
                                            JJ. How f**king stupid can you possibly be? This will kill offshore gaming because there will be no need for it. I seriously doubt that you even have a clue as to what the options the State has are. Do you know? I think it is time to run you out of here. You attract too many idiots in here like yourself.
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                                            • A Quant
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                                              • 05-14-18
                                              • 1357

                                              #267
                                              Originally posted by cincinnatikid513
                                              jj talking up the off shore books like he's trying to sell you some blue star airline stock
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                                              • jjgold
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 07-20-05
                                                • 388179

                                                #268
                                                lol

                                                everyone in Vegas has offshore accounts

                                                VEGAS CANNOT OFFER WHAT OFFSHORE HAS NEVER DID AND NEVER CAN

                                                ROOKIE DAY..not one poster will ever give up their 5 dimes account, stop lying to yourself
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                                                • Sam Odom
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 10-30-05
                                                  • 58063

                                                  #269
                                                  Originally posted by BigdaddyQH
                                                  JJ. How f**king stupid can you possibly be?
                                                  Daddy bringing heat
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                                                  • jtoler
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                                                    • 12-17-13
                                                    • 30967

                                                    #270
                                                    Originally posted by jjgold
                                                    lol

                                                    everyone in Vegas has offshore accounts

                                                    VEGAS CANNOT OFFER WHAT OFFSHORE HAS NEVER DID AND NEVER CAN

                                                    ROOKIE DAY..not one poster will ever give up their 5 dimes account, stop lying to yourself
                                                    you think they would totally legalize something and continue to allow you to use offshore, doubt it, the offshores could/would just as well stop allowing us customers, theyve done it before, not all allow to this day. when the us legalizes something they are saying its not ok to buy crack, unless its my crack, any others will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law and dont forget net neutrality
                                                    Last edited by jtoler; 05-14-18, 02:35 PM.
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                                                    • jjgold
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                                                      • 07-20-05
                                                      • 388179

                                                      #271
                                                      Sammy the small books going to fold up, get your money out of any of them within 1-2 years

                                                      The Big 5 will be fine too big of a credit network
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                                                      • alling
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                                                        • 05-13-10
                                                        • 1405

                                                        #272
                                                        "If it is permissible under the opinion, full-scale sports gaming could be available at Delaware's casinos before the end of June," Carney said.

                                                        http://www.wdel.com/news/delaware-co...e84e85f6b.html
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                                                        • cincinnatikid513
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 11-23-17
                                                          • 45360

                                                          #273
                                                          outside the lines on now espn2 christie on
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                                                          • jjgold
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 07-20-05
                                                            • 388179

                                                            #274
                                                            Men why do you think i am in pa???????????
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                                                            • lonnie55
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                                                              • 04-08-16
                                                              • 2689

                                                              #275
                                                              Originally posted by BigdaddyQH
                                                              JJ. How f**king stupid can you possibly be? This will kill offshore gaming because there will be no need for it. I seriously doubt that you even have a clue as to what the options the State has are. Do you know? I think it is time to run you out of here. You attract too many idiots in here like yourself.
                                                              Offshore betting never will be killed. Regulated soft books will restrict winning players. Asian books for instance don't. So JJ has a point when he says serious bettors need offshore books anyway, no matter how the legal situation in your country/state is.

                                                              In UK, France, Spain betting is legalized but regulated books kick you out after a couple of k of winnings. Even regulated locals do. It's for recreational players only. Serious bettors need books like SBO, IBC, Pinnacle because of obvious reasons.
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                                                              • Sam Odom
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                                                                • 10-30-05
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                                                                #276
                                                                Most $$$ in Bookmaker

                                                                Next most in Heritage

                                                                Rest spread out
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                                                                • Mac4Lyfe
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                                                                  • 01-04-09
                                                                  • 48377

                                                                  #277
                                                                  Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                                  I'm a conservative Republican and believe in Jesus 2018 and I'm all in favor of less Government and legalizing everything.. People should be allowed to do what they want within the law as long as they aren't hurting others!!

                                                                  I look at Amsterdam with the legalization of drugs and they have it regulated and under control. That's just one example..

                                                                  Mostly though I HATE being forced by law to do these things - like wear a seat belt when riding in a car, wear a helmet when riding a motorcycle, sign onto Obamacare or be fined, etc...

                                                                  Most of these forced mindless regulations were brought into power by Liberals and Democrats. I hate it!!! Freedoms being taken away are the worst!!!
                                                                  We have too many dumb ass people in the US to allow them to do what they want. Which is why I don't mind some type of gun control. Too many dumb asses that shoot themselves in the foot. We have seat belt laws because when a dumb ass doesn't wear one and gets paralyzed because they were drunk or speeding, who do you think has to pay for their injuries and long term health? We all have to pay for the actions of idiots. Sure, everyone should be able to smoke or get high in moderation but dumb asses have no self control, they toke all fukking day and we end up having to save them from themselves. Most laws are to protect dumb asses from themselves. You don't wear a helmet while speeding ends up costing me money.
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                                                                  • Bluehorseshoe
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                                                                    • 07-13-06
                                                                    • 14998

                                                                    #278
                                                                    Originally posted by hubie69
                                                                    Never thought I would see the day that this guy is a hero for all of us:

                                                                    I wonder what his cut is now? lol
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                                                                    • Snowball
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                                                                      • 11-15-09
                                                                      • 30054

                                                                      #279
                                                                      States will offer hamburger bets...
                                                                      they are only in it for the money.

                                                                      leagues will also limit.

                                                                      and taxes.

                                                                      offshore will gain as the legality is accepted
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                                                                      • bigtymer56
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                                                                        • 07-31-12
                                                                        • 4742

                                                                        #280
                                                                        Originally posted by Snowball
                                                                        States will offer hamburger bets...
                                                                        they are only in it for the money.

                                                                        leagues will also limit.

                                                                        and taxes.

                                                                        offshore will gain as the legality is accepted
                                                                        Who isn't in this for the money?
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