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  • d2bets
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    • 08-10-05
    • 39994

    #4551
    Originally posted by Goat Milk
    So let's take a look at a possible chain of events.

    - economies reopen.
    - moderna and others continue to work.
    - infection rate goes up.
    - stocks go down
    - we keep the economies open but the new numbers start to scare people again and they don't go out much besides work
    - certain workplaces start to get corona employees and those companies shut down again
    - cnn scares ppl even more now
    - stocks plummet
    - moderna and others continue to work
    - fall comes
    - hospitals become overhwhelmed with the cold weather, tons of ppl think they have corona
    - stocks go down more
    - we'll doing whatever we can to get the vaccine up and going, but more are dying

    If you think this is a possible scenario, then this illustrates how the entire stock market is relying on moderna and other biotechs.
    That's a bit compressed. The real test isn't until Sept/Oct (fall) when schools "reopen", etc. Summer is likely to be a respite of sorts, but may bring a false sense of "we're back" before the second wave hits. It's totally inevitable, only question is how the country responds.
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    • Iona
      SBR MVP
      • 01-08-10
      • 4244

      #4552
      Earning after the close today:


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      • Snowball
        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
        • 11-15-09
        • 30047

        #4553
        Originally posted by d2bets
        That's a bit compressed. The real test isn't until Sept/Oct (fall) when schools "reopen", etc. Summer is likely to be a respite of sorts, but may bring a false sense of "we're back" before the second wave hits. It's totally inevitable, only question is how the country responds.
        No matter what, as long as it's Covid-19 and not something worse mutated, closing down is not an option.
        People who cannot tolerate any risk should stay home as a choice, not as a law enforcement responsibility.
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        • homie1975
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 12-24-13
          • 15452

          #4554
          Originally posted by d2bets
          Nasdaq indices are within shouting distance of all time highs.
          yes biotech a big part of NQ but let's be real (i know you are very real) - it is Big Tech that is leading the rally with AMZN and NFLX pulling a lot of the weight, too
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          • navyblue81
            SBR MVP
            • 11-29-13
            • 4143

            #4555
            Moderna bouncing back. In the green today. Oil doing really well. I’m liking the profits I’m seeing from Phillips66 and MPC. Roku started good but now in red.
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            • d2bets
              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
              • 08-10-05
              • 39994

              #4556
              Originally posted by homie1975
              yes biotech a big part of NQ but let's be real (i know you are very real) - it is Big Tech that is leading the rally with AMZN and NFLX pulling a lot of the weight, too
              Absolutely. I wasn't talking about biotech. I was talking about tech companies, many of whom are not unaffected but this but positively affected by the covdi trends. They may continue to run, but how much farther can the broader market go without participation that I don't see happening. But I guess the market is just discounting/ignoring what's coming in the fall and setting up for a second huge fall in the fall.
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              • chico2663
                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                • 09-02-10
                • 36915

                #4557
                Originally posted by homie1975
                yes biotech a big part of NQ but let's be real (i know you are very real) - it is Big Tech that is leading the rally with AMZN and NFLX pulling a lot of the weight, too
                You forgot fb.reaching all time highs
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                • Iona
                  SBR MVP
                  • 01-08-10
                  • 4244

                  #4558
                  Earnings before the bell tomorrow:

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                  • KnuckleHeadz
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 12-11-19
                    • 8194

                    #4559
                    Originally posted by navyblue81
                    Moderna bouncing back. In the green today. Oil doing really well. I’m liking the profits I’m seeing from Phillips66 and MPC. Roku started good but now in red.
                    Crude is about to spike again. We currently have a unit down due to a explosion a few months ago and have only been working 40hr weeks due to the pandemic and the demand. That all changed a two weeks ago and we shifted to two shifts at 60hrs a week to get the unit back online by June 1st.
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                    • homie1975
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 12-24-13
                      • 15452

                      #4560
                      Originally posted by chico2663
                      You forgot fb.reaching all time highs
                      i did not mention them because through yesterday, they were only up 5% YTD

                      look at the YTD percentage gains of the other big techs and also AMZN and NFLX, they are way over 30%
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                      • chico2663
                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                        • 09-02-10
                        • 36915

                        #4561
                        If you go by that trend look at swks
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                        • d2bets
                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                          • 08-10-05
                          • 39994

                          #4562
                          I'll bet on another late into-the-close hard drop today like yesterday.
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                          • navyblue81
                            SBR MVP
                            • 11-29-13
                            • 4143

                            #4563
                            Moderna a roller coaster today. Was down 5%, then went up 5%, now almost back to 0.
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                            • homie1975
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 12-24-13
                              • 15452

                              #4564
                              Originally posted by d2bets
                              I'll bet on another late into-the-close hard drop today like yesterday.
                              D2er you are such a hater LOL
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                              • d2bets
                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                • 08-10-05
                                • 39994

                                #4565
                                Originally posted by homie1975
                                D2er you are such a hater LOL
                                So far I'm dead wrong. 25 minutes to go...
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                                • Yulia74
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 08-28-18
                                  • 1907

                                  #4566
                                  40 BTC transferred from possible Satoshi owned wallet (dormant since 2009) today

                                  The coins in this transaction were mined in the first month of Bitcoin's existence.
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                                  • Snowball
                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                    • 11-15-09
                                    • 30047

                                    #4567
                                    silver and platinum another killer day
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                                    • Snowball
                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                      • 11-15-09
                                      • 30047

                                      #4568
                                      The Dow Jones

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                                      • pavyracer
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 04-12-07
                                        • 82624

                                        #4569
                                        Market moves up without news (good or bad). This is a good sign. A lot of the big buyers are lining up to buy stocks.
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                                        • Snowball
                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                          • 11-15-09
                                          • 30047

                                          #4570
                                          two NO DEBT domestics looking heavy value for turnarounds
                                          CULP - Culp Industries and BSET - Bassett Furniture

                                          more risky - Chinese restaurant supplier. HFFG - HF Foods Group
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                                          • Slurry Pumper
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 06-18-18
                                            • 2811

                                            #4571
                                            OK so the market is right at the top of the I-beam of bullshit range. What we need for tomorrow is a break out to squeeze a shit load of short players like myself. Hell I'm ready for this to happen at this point. Even if it happens I still think we travel back to the 2200 range this summer, but a nice short squeeze would do wonders for my oil and financial stocks while limiting my short plays that I have been cycling through for the last month.
                                            Lets hope it happens because if it doesn't the market will just drift down a little bit before they come up with a story about a Mexican and Chinese amalgamation treatment that is called the Kung Flu-gheretta. 3 parts tequila, crushed ice from a mineral spring somewhere in China with some proprietary ingredients a dash of soy sauce and a smig of bleach all served in a glass with crushed hydroxicholroquin around the rim. The market will eat it up and we will be right back where we are again like ground hog day.
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                                            • homie1975
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 12-24-13
                                              • 15452

                                              #4572
                                              Slurry I'm a bull by nature but open to the Bear thesis when it calls for it.

                                              You seem like a Bear but not open to the Bull thesis.

                                              This a brave new world (order) where Tech rules all as Pavy said, the market is rising on good and bad news.

                                              I think it's been too long now (8 weeks) since the retrace. It feels stronger than a mini bull.

                                              The bull market climbs the wall of worry.
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                                              • navyblue81
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 11-29-13
                                                • 4143

                                                #4573
                                                Originally posted by Yulia74
                                                40 BTC transferred from possible Satoshi owned wallet (dormant since 2009) today

                                                The coins in this transaction were mined in the first month of Bitcoin's existence.
                                                Hard to believe Bitcoin was under 5k just a few weeks ago. Now approaching 10k.
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                                                • milwaukee mike
                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                  • 08-22-07
                                                  • 26914

                                                  #4574
                                                  Originally posted by Snowball
                                                  two NO DEBT domestics looking heavy value for turnarounds
                                                  CULP - Culp Industries and BSET - Bassett Furniture

                                                  more risky - Chinese restaurant supplier. HFFG - HF Foods Group
                                                  bset is a hell of a buy here

                                                  other stuff like @home (home) have moved up big time... pent up demand for furniture, and more time spent at home means more time looking at that old couch that needs replacing
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                                                  • Shafted69
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 07-04-08
                                                    • 6412

                                                    #4575
                                                    I'm from the government and I'm here to help. - Jerome P
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                                                    • homie1975
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 12-24-13
                                                      • 15452

                                                      #4576
                                                      Originally posted by Shafted69
                                                      I'm from the government and I'm here to help. - Jerome P
                                                      Shafter, Don't fight the Fed, we know this !!
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                                                      • Fred The Hammer
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 08-13-13
                                                        • 11576

                                                        #4577
                                                        I'm just a middle-aged working stiff, but really having fun with the market right now! I dabbled in the market during the poker boom, but then bought a house and my available $ dried up. Anyway put in 2k initially on April 13 and already made over $300 twice on MGM and got 325 shares the other day at $12.28. Is this a great buying opportunity or will the sky fall soon enough? I feel like the gloom-n-doom hasn't reached Wall Street yet.

                                                        Anybody like a stock under $25? I'm looking at PINS Pinterest
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                                                        • Goat Milk
                                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                          • 03-24-10
                                                          • 25850

                                                          #4578
                                                          D2,

                                                          Yeah that is a compressed view obviously. I don't know what'll happen with covid. I am not a scientist, I am not an epidemiologist. But stocks are mainly about perception.

                                                          Homie,

                                                          You're talking about stocks like Amazon and Netflix like it's a surprise they went up. Of course they went up. These types of stocks are unaffected by covid. If anything they'll do better. Common sense 101 bro.

                                                          My point is, 90% of stocks are riding on Moderna or one of these biotechs finding a vaccine.

                                                          I can guarantee with 100% certainty that if Moderna came out tomorrow and said "Potential vaccine trial fails phase 3 (or whatever) trials" nearly every single stock on the market would tank.

                                                          Another common sense 101 tidbit for you.
                                                          Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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                                                          • chico2663
                                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                            • 09-02-10
                                                            • 36915

                                                            #4579
                                                            i have owned spt since it was 17 but getting ready to cash out for profit. I would ask mil-mike who he likes. I have made money off his picks. Or you could play the dividend game. Took 30,800 to 34.800 in 4 months b4 this shit hit.
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                                                            • cankid
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 08-22-08
                                                              • 7215

                                                              #4580
                                                              Trading on 33 stocks have been suspended since late Feb due to Coronavirus Claims as an FYI
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                                                              • Slurry Pumper
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 06-18-18
                                                                • 2811

                                                                #4581
                                                                Originally posted by homie1975
                                                                Slurry I'm a bull by nature but open to the Bear thesis when it calls for it.

                                                                You seem like a Bear but not open to the Bull thesis.

                                                                This a brave new world (order) where Tech rules all as Pavy said, the market is rising on good and bad news.

                                                                I think it's been too long now (8 weeks) since the retrace. It feels stronger than a mini bull.

                                                                The bull market climbs the wall of worry.
                                                                I play both bull and bear style. On the same stock. For instance, I own all the FANG stocks and gold miners going long, I'm short PETS, XLF for a while now. I have some stocks that I just got into long like SLB, GS, and INTL. I'll switch all of them at the right time when I see the money coming in or out.
                                                                The FANG just keeps going so I'm riding it, but while they are reaching new heights, the market is sickly. The VIX is drifting down, the financials are not participating, the S&P has super resistance at this level, IWM needs to get going, and the plunger boys keep propping up the market on a daily basis. So what is happening with all the manipulation is the market can't get going either way and thus my plays are muted. A little here and there during this time when I am basically playing a 2 to 5 day trade is not my usual style, I usually take a few months per trade.
                                                                Now that I'm still at home waiting for my Governor to open up the state so that I can go get another job this is the only betting I have so the market being bound in a tight trading range held up with the I-beam of bullshit support that will not allow the market to fail is actually hurting the economy in the long run and holding up the market action in the short run. Eventually the market will do what it has to do, but the Fed is retarding the action and thus lowering my overall yield.
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                                                                • homie1975
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 12-24-13
                                                                  • 15452

                                                                  #4582
                                                                  Originally posted by Goat Milk
                                                                  D2,

                                                                  Yeah that is a compressed view obviously. I don't know what'll happen with covid. I am not a scientist, I am not an epidemiologist. But stocks are mainly about perception.

                                                                  Homie,

                                                                  You're talking about stocks like Amazon and Netflix like it's a surprise they went up. Of course they went up. These types of stocks are unaffected by covid. If anything they'll do better. Common sense 101 bro.

                                                                  My point is, 90% of stocks are riding on Moderna or one of these biotechs finding a vaccine.

                                                                  I can guarantee with 100% certainty that if Moderna came out tomorrow and said "Potential vaccine trial fails phase 3 (or whatever) trials" nearly every single stock on the market would tank.

                                                                  Another common sense 101 tidbit for you.
                                                                  again, define "tank"? 5% drop? yes, if the vaccine trials come back with negative results, then yes the market will be affected adversely by single digit percentage points likely 5 to 7% max, but will it go into freefall again like it did for weeks from late feb to late march?

                                                                  NO.

                                                                  NO.

                                                                  NO.
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                                                                  • navyblue81
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 11-29-13
                                                                    • 4143

                                                                    #4583
                                                                    I have money in Moderna so hoping for good news. It honestly could go either way. Some are saying it could split up to 120 within the next week or so, which would be a 40% spike while others say it could drop back down to 50 or 60. So holding my chips hoping for good news.
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                                                                    • grease lightnin
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 10-01-12
                                                                      • 16015

                                                                      #4584
                                                                      Cases are trending up in GA last 3 days... will be interesting to see what tomorrow brings.
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                                                                      • Snowball
                                                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                        • 11-15-09
                                                                        • 30047

                                                                        #4585
                                                                        bought
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