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  • bettilimbroke999
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 02-04-08
    • 13254

    #386
    Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
    A well trained guy can do much more damage with a semi-auto AR15 then less control with an automatic.

    Why would a shooter be extremely vulnerable in the few seconds it takes to reload? Wouldn't he just hide behind something? Do you really think you stand a better chance with a revolver?

    It might actually be worst if people in the crowd are armed. If a crazy ass mofo decides to open fire in a crowded public place, what are you going to do with your gun? You most likely don't even know who's shooting. You going to shoot in the general direction of the gun fire and end up killing a crowd of people yourself? By the time you identify the shooter, he's already killed 50 people. It is very difficult to avoid someone bent on killing people with no regard for their own lives. Metal detectors might have helped but he may have killed security at the door, I don't know. The notion of more people having guns in a crowded party is very scary. Now you have multiple people shooting and no one knows who the real shooter is. If you were standing right next to him when he started shooting, he most likely would have shot you before you had a chance to use your gun. Most people that survive these type of events are by pure luck.
    Bc the shooter would have to run out of bullets to know he's out of bullets unless he's methodically counting to 30 and then jumping behind some conveniently bulletproof to all directions area to reload...at some point you are going to have to stop shooting and reload and this is when a shooter is at his most vulnerable...but again in a crowd of 200 (who could all be armed) you would be a sitting duck to indefensible fire from every conceivable direction...unarmed pussies are the cause of mass shootings
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    • Mac4Lyfe
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 01-04-09
      • 48373

      #387
      Originally posted by brooks85
      There is no reason to track purchases of legal citizens who haven't been interviewed by the FBI twice. All you have to do is enforce the laws on the books. That is the NUMBER ONE mistake liberals make. Don't make that mistake mac.


      and again, guns had NOTHING to do with the attack other than the weapon of choice. Last night could have been much worse with simple fire bombs.
      Track them all. We have white folks joining ISIS. White woman are joining in droves. You don't know when someone is going to cross over. Track everybody that purchases any weapon of mass destruction, especially materials to make bombs. Guns, specifically the AR15 is the weapon of choice right now, so especially track them. If they end up using Molotov cocktails or Rambo style knives we can expand to that later down the line. Right now it's the AR15. Why would anyone have a problem with us checking?
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      • KingJD31
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 11-04-11
        • 8167

        #388
        There are some serious dumb penetrates in this thread
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        • packerd_00
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 05-22-13
          • 17804

          #389
          Originally posted by KingJD31
          They do attack other countries,you for real?
          Pavys a bit simple.
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          • bettilimbroke999
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 02-04-08
            • 13254

            #390
            Originally posted by Jayvegas420
            Youre an idiot too.

            Theres violence in his country and my country too.

            Big difference.....
            I cant get out of my car with a grenade and kill a guy .

            Cootch encounters violence in his counrty too.

            Big Diffencence....
            He doesnt have a presidential candidate telling his country to protect their AK 47's & AR 14's.

            No one is saying your country is a hell hole.
            Just saying if you want to reduce the number of mass shooting you need gun law reform.

            If you like killing each other by the dozens then leave it the same.
            So the difference is ppl can breakin to your house and rob and assault you at any time without worrying about you being able to defend yourself...excellent plan

            Let's take Australia for example bc it seems that's where Coochy is from....let's see what the Aussies think about this gun ban and it's effectiveness DOWN UNDER

            It is a common fantasy that gun bans make society safer. In 2002 -- five years after enacting its gun ban -- the Australian Bureau of Criminology acknowledged there is no correlation between gun control and the use of firearms in violent crime. In fact, the percent of murders committed with a firearm was the highest it had ever been in 2006 (16.3 percent), says the D.C. Examiner.Even Australia's Bureau of Crime Statistics and Research acknowledges that the gun ban had no significant impact on the amount of gun-involved crime:
            • In 2006, assault rose 49.2 percent and robbery 6.2 percent.
            • Sexual assault -- Australia's equivalent term for rape -- increased 29.9 percent.
            • Overall, Australia's violent crime rate rose 42.2 percent.

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            • KingJD31
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 11-04-11
              • 8167

              #391
              Think about how low your mental is to keep talking about guns while jihadists plot the next big attack, we are at fickin war that came to us so it's either they die or we do. Dumb penetrates
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              • Mac4Lyfe
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 01-04-09
                • 48373

                #392
                Originally posted by bettilimbroke999
                Bc the shooter would have to run out of bullets to know he's out of bullets unless he's methodically counting to 30 and then jumping behind some conveniently bulletproof to all directions area to reload...at some point you are going to have to stop shooting and reload and this is when a shooter is at his most vulnerable...but again in a crowd of 200 (who could all be armed) you would be a sitting duck to indefensible fire from every conceivable direction...unarmed pussies are the cause of mass shootings
                So, he kills 20 to 30 people before anyone even knew what happen. BTW, many of those people would have been carrying by your logic. Then as he goes to reload, you want 200+ people shooting in all directions at said shooter in an enclosed building? WTF are you talking about? You'll have more people dead from all the people carrying.

                I get the idea of protecting yourself by carrying a weapon BUT most people are not properly trained to carry a weapon. Those people put you and me in danger carrying a weapon in public. The best solution is to make sure no one in the venue is carrying but trained safety personnel.
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                • packerd_00
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 05-22-13
                  • 17804

                  #393
                  Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                  Less than that. My brother lives a couple miles from both places. He drives by that club on his way to work every day. His daughter has been to that pavilion many times where the singer was shot. My son wanted to see 2 Chainz who performed there last year. There was a shooting at a teen kids club a few months ago in Orlando too. This shit is going on all over the country.

                  People keep talking about how safe we are in Texas because apparently everyone is armed?? Bullshit. We just had a Marine suffering from PTSD shoot up one of the nicest neighborhoods in Houston down the street from me killing and injuring many. This dude shot up a cop car 5 blocks away. He was such a good shot he perfectly outlined bullets on the driver and passenger side like a target at a shooting range. He blew up a gas station hitting a fuel tank as well.

                  Everybody at Fort Hood is packing heat but that did nothing to stop mass shooting gunmen in 2009 and 2014.
                  That's wild mate,we aren't allowed to use guns in England,even the Cops don't have them,which must sound crazy I know.
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                  • bettilimbroke999
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 02-04-08
                    • 13254

                    #394
                    Originally posted by packerd_00
                    Pavys a bit simple.
                    Pavy's a good guy but meth destroys lives and the whole state of GA where he's from is like an episode of Breaking Bad....just sayin
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                    • frostno98
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 09-11-07
                      • 9769

                      #395
                      This is crazy sh1t. This guy doesn't fit the typical profile of a terrorist. He joined the police academy and had many friends in the law enforcement community. The guy just went rogue out of nowhere.
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                      • packerd_00
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 05-22-13
                        • 17804

                        #396
                        Originally posted by bettilimbroke999
                        Pavy's a good guy but meth destroys lives and the whole state of GA where he's from is like an episode of Breaking Bad....just sayin
                        He mouths off to much about English people,dont like that mate.
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                        • bettilimbroke999
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 02-04-08
                          • 13254

                          #397
                          Originally posted by packerd_00
                          That's wild mate,we aren't allowed to use guns in England,even the Cops don't have them,which must sound crazy I know.
                          90% white population must be nice...call me when you're down in the low 60s
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                          • Mac4Lyfe
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 01-04-09
                            • 48373

                            #398
                            Originally posted by bettilimbroke999
                            unarmed pussies are the cause of mass shootings

                            The shooter last week in Houston fired these shots from 5 blocks away. Look how perfect a shot he was (military trained). Do you really think any of us in this forum could out shoot that guy?

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                            • bettilimbroke999
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 02-04-08
                              • 13254

                              #399
                              Originally posted by packerd_00
                              He mouths off to much about English people,dont like that mate.
                              England seems great to me...if my country was 90% white we wouldn't need guns
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                              • packerd_00
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 05-22-13
                                • 17804

                                #400
                                Originally posted by bettilimbroke999
                                90% white population must be nice...call me when you're down in the low 60s
                                Nah seriously its gonna hit a breaking point soon with the mass immigration,its to small a country to put up with this shit.
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                                • packerd_00
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 05-22-13
                                  • 17804

                                  #401
                                  Originally posted by bettilimbroke999
                                  England seems great to me...if my country was 90% white we wouldn't need guns
                                  Where do you live mate,id say you should move to Wyoming,id move their in a heart beat if I could.
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                                  • pavyracer
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 04-12-07
                                    • 82726

                                    #402
                                    Originally posted by bettilimbroke999
                                    30 round machine gun?

                                    See this is why democracy is dangerous...we let ppl vote on whether or not to have guns who have no earthly idea what they are talking about. A machine gun is a fully automatic weapon....it's a military weapon capable (in auto mode) of continuous firing as long as the trigger is held and can fire upwards of a 1000 rounds/min...a semi-auto weapon is capable of firing 1 round/trigger pull...this translates to about 45-60 rounds per minute but keep in mind a 30 round magazine would already run out of rounds at 30 and a new magazine would have to be retrieved from wherever the shooter had his magazines at in order to replace the empty mag to reload...at this particular point the shooter would stop firing and is extremely vulnerable to anyone with any gun (be it a semi-auto or revolver) as he's essentially unarmed. Even whilst shooting he is vulnerable to fire from all other directions....with whatever a couple hundred ppl with potentially a couple hundred directions of fire to defend from he is essentially a sitting duck to an armed populace.

                                    However...since pussies are scared of guns and would prefer to be killed rather than be able to defend themselves the crowd is unarmed and he shoots them at will until people with guns finally show up and stop him.
                                    The RPK (Ruchnoy Pulemyot Kalashnikova, Russian: Ручной пулемёт Калашникова or "Kalashnikov hand-held machine gun") is a 7.62×39mm light machine gun of Soviet design, developed by Mikhail Kalashnikov in the late 1950s, parallel with the AKM assault rifle. It was created as part of a program designed to standardize the small arms inventory of the Red Army, where it replaced the 7.62×39mm RPD light machine gun. The RPK continues to be used by the armed forces of countries of the former Soviet Union and certain African and Asian nations. The RPK was also manufactured in Bulgaria and Romania.
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                                    • frostno98
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 09-11-07
                                      • 9769

                                      #403
                                      They said the Club had one armed off duty Police officer. Obviously not enough if your going a against a highly trained shooter.
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                                      • KingJD31
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 11-04-11
                                        • 8167

                                        #404


                                        Here are your "moderate" muslims celebrating 9/11. These people are just like your avg white picket fence family here, they take the kids to soccer, go out to the movies, hangout with friends, suicide bomb a populated area. This is everything we stand for so we need to stop being so islamaphobic and be more understanding
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                                        • ACoochy
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 08-19-09
                                          • 13949

                                          #405
                                          Originally posted by bettilimbroke999
                                          So the difference is ppl can breakin to your house and rob and assault you at any time without worrying about you being able to defend yourself...excellent plan

                                          Let's take Australia for example bc it seems that's where Coochy is from....let's see what the Aussies think about this gun ban and it's effectiveness DOWN UNDER
                                          Got anything that WASN'T from 10 years ago??

                                          Clutching at straws a little

                                          And yeah we still have guns and people still occasionally get shot by said guns BUT when you take out the high powered option for the general populace then (as you can see) murders of the mass variety simply are far less of an option for a potential psychopath to enact...
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                                          • Mac4Lyfe
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 01-04-09
                                            • 48373

                                            #406
                                            Originally posted by bettilimbroke999
                                            England seems great to me...if my country was 90% white we wouldn't need guns
                                            The majority of these mass shootings are by white males. What are you talking about? Stop trying to make this an issue that it's not. Can we save the socio economic impact color has on crime babble for another day?
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                                            • ACoochy
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 08-19-09
                                              • 13949

                                              #407
                                              Originally posted by KingJD31


                                              Here are your "moderate" muslims celebrating 9/11. These people are just like your avg white picket fence family here, they take the kids to soccer, go out to the movies, hangout with friends, suicide bomb a populated area. This is everything we stand for so we need to stop being so islamaphobic and be more understanding
                                              Guys like Timothy McVeigh would agree...
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                                              • ACoochy
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 08-19-09
                                                • 13949

                                                #408
                                                Double post
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                                                • Mac4Lyfe
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 01-04-09
                                                  • 48373

                                                  #409
                                                  Originally posted by ACoochy
                                                  Got anything that WASN'T from 10 years ago??

                                                  Clutching at straws a little

                                                  And yeah we still have guns and people still occasionally get shot by said guns BUT when you take out the high powered option for the general populace then (as you can see) murders of the mass variety simply are far less of an option for a potential psychopath to enact...
                                                  Don't mind him. He's been gripped in fear by watching too much TV. He thinks everyone on his block is plotting to kill him. So instead of ensuring they don't have access to high powered assault weapons, he himself wants said weapons for himself. One day, a Muslim is going to be walking his dog and he'll shoot them out of fear that they were plotting an elaborate plan.
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                                                  • bettilimbroke999
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 02-04-08
                                                    • 13254

                                                    #410
                                                    Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                                                    The shooter last week in Houston fired these shots from 5 blocks away. Look how perfect a shot he was (military trained). Do you really think any of us in this forum could out shoot that guy?

                                                    Yes...any of those homeowners armed and skilled with a rifle could've put him down. Again I'm from TN where shooting/hunting is a normal hobby...if you're from Houston and guns are a foreign concept and you've never shot one you're going to be amazed. Finding guns you are confident (through practice) with using might save your life someday...or the lives of others.
                                                    Last edited by bettilimbroke999; 06-12-16, 07:45 PM.
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                                                    • The Kraken
                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                      • 12-25-11
                                                      • 28918

                                                      #411
                                                      Originally posted by bettilimbroke999
                                                      Bc the shooter would have to run out of bullets to know he's out of bullets unless he's methodically counting to 30 and then jumping behind some conveniently bulletproof to all directions area to reload...at some point you are going to have to stop shooting and reload and this is when a shooter is at his most vulnerable...but again in a crowd of 200 (who could all be armed) you would be a sitting duck to indefensible fire from every conceivable direction...unarmed pussies are the cause of mass shootings
                                                      Good posters like Coochy are wasting their time entertaining your trolling
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                                                      • Mac4Lyfe
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 01-04-09
                                                        • 48373

                                                        #412
                                                        Originally posted by frostno98
                                                        They said the Club had one armed off duty Police officer. Obviously not enough if your going a against a highly trained shooter.
                                                        This club seems negligent in how they protected the venue. Did they have metal detectors or did they pat folks down? Did they have adequate exits?

                                                        A Florida senator just said that the shooter got off 700 rounds in a few minutes... WTH?
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                                                        • ACoochy
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 08-19-09
                                                          • 13949

                                                          #413
                                                          Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                                                          Don't mind him. He's been gripped in fear by watching too much TV. He thinks everyone on his block is plotting to kill him. So instead of ensuring they don't have access to high powered assault weapons, he himself wants said weapons for himself. One day, a Muslim is going to be walking his dog and he'll shoot them out of fear that they were plotting an elaborate plan.
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                                                          • DwightShrute
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 01-17-09
                                                            • 103091

                                                            #414
                                                            Originally posted by The Kraken
                                                            Good posters like Coochy are wasting their time entertaining your trolling
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                                                            • bettilimbroke999
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 02-04-08
                                                              • 13254

                                                              #415
                                                              Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                                                              The majority of these mass shootings are by white males. What are you talking about? Stop trying to make this an issue that it's not. Can we save the socio economic impact color has on crime babble for another day?
                                                              When was the last white mass shooter? Sandy Hook was 3 1/2 years ago...I mean considering 2/3 of the population is white it's odd that its always some Muslim mass shooter or some black normal shooter....ODD!
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                                                              • KingJD31
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 11-04-11
                                                                • 8167

                                                                #416
                                                                Originally posted by ACoochy
                                                                Guys like Timothy McVeigh would agree...
                                                                You should go to Afganistan, I hear it's wonderful this time of year.
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                                                                • pavyracer
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 04-12-07
                                                                  • 82726

                                                                  #417
                                                                  Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                                  The RPK (Ruchnoy Pulemyot Kalashnikova, Russian: Ручной пулемёт Калашникова or "Kalashnikov hand-held machine gun") is a 7.62×39mm light machine gun of Soviet design, developed by Mikhail Kalashnikov in the late 1950s, parallel with the AKM assault rifle. It was created as part of a program designed to standardize the small arms inventory of the Red Army, where it replaced the 7.62×39mm RPD light machine gun. The RPK continues to be used by the armed forces of countries of the former Soviet Union and certain African and Asian nations. The RPK was also manufactured in Bulgaria and Romania.
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                                                                  • Smoke
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 10-09-09
                                                                    • 48111

                                                                    #418
                                                                    Originally posted by bettilimbroke999
                                                                    When was the last white mass shooter? Sandy Hook was 3 1/2 years ago...I mean considering 2/3 of the population is white it's odd that its always some Muslim mass shooter or some black normal shooter....ODD!
                                                                    Hey dumbass you remember the Aurora theater shootings in colorado?
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                                                                    • Mac4Lyfe
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 01-04-09
                                                                      • 48373

                                                                      #419
                                                                      Originally posted by bettilimbroke999
                                                                      Yes...any of those homeowners armed and skilled with a rifle could've put him down. Again I'm from TN where shooting/hunting is a normal hobby...if you're from Houston and guns are a foreign concept and you've never shot one you're going to be amazed. Finding guns you are confident (though practice) with using might save your life someday...or the lives of others.
                                                                      Okay, you're nuts.

                                                                      This happened down the street from me, where all of us our gun owners and we were told to shelter in place. A friend of mine who lives 3 houses from where that police car got shot up was riding his bike and had no idea what was going on. He got in his car and drove the back route to the gas station that he saw burning because he thought there was an accident. Another police car flagged him to turn around as he was driving right into the fire. Another guy (25 year old guy, who might be related to you) in the neighborhood went out to confront this shooter with his pistol... He ended up in the hospital after being shot several times but thankfully he lived. This shooter was an expert marksman and you think homeowners are going to put him down?
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                                                                      • bettilimbroke999
                                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                                        • 02-04-08
                                                                        • 13254

                                                                        #420
                                                                        Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                                        The RPK (Ruchnoy Pulemyot Kalashnikova, Russian: Ручной пулемёт Калашникова or "Kalashnikov hand-held machine gun") is a 7.62×39mm light machine gun of Soviet design, developed by Mikhail Kalashnikov in the late 1950s, parallel with the AKM assault rifle. It was created as part of a program designed to standardize the small arms inventory of the Red Army, where it replaced the 7.62×39mm RPD light machine gun. The RPK continues to be used by the armed forces of countries of the former Soviet Union and certain African and Asian nations. The RPK was also manufactured in Bulgaria and Romania.
                                                                        What is the answer to a weapon you've never seen used in a mass shooting?
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