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  • chico2663
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    #351
    Originally posted by d2bets
    In that case, maybe all the christians should convert to islam so they won't be targets.

    Ridiculous suggestion.

    How was this guy able to buy guns legally? Sad!
    I got my first rifle at age 11. 42 years later than I still haven't shot anyone.
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    • The Kraken
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      #352
      Sadly, this is becoming a political debate about Muslims and gun control.

      The bigger message here is hate speech against LGBT, similar to hate speech that has been responsible for countless jews, african americans, native americans, etc.....

      edit: \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ \\\\\\ - doesn't really matter

      We will never learn the important lessons as long as we allow these tragedies to be politicized
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      • chico2663
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        #353
        Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
        Aren't you glad that we track people that purchase hazardous chemicals here in the US??? You don't see many Molotov cocktails here. Might help if we did the same with these guns as well, don't you think?

        Brooks, I'm not understanding what you mean by no guns = bombs? But I ask you again (maybe you can be more clear). Do you think we as US citizens have the right to own any and all guns? Do you think there should be a limit to the firepower/killing capacity? Do you think we should be able to arm ourselves with chemical weapons? These are simple questions.
        YOU SOUND STUPID! Now you have me agreeing with brooks and it isn't a good feeling, How about the knife welding guy in china. If some jerk has a knife; you gonna thank a man with a gun. When those 2 guys that escaped from New York prison they tried to break into a home. A woman who was always griping at her husband about owning a gun stated" I thank GOD my husband didn't listen to me!"
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        • chico2663
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          #354
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          • KRIT
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            #355
            Here is a real simple question, why do we need a gun that shoots 180 times per minute?
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            • chico2663
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              #356
              Originally posted by The Kraken
              Sadly, this is becoming a political debate about Muslims and gun control.

              The bigger message here is hate speech against LGBT, similar to hate speech that has been responsible for countless jews, african americans, native americans, etc.....

              edit: \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ \\\\\\ - doesn't really matter

              We will never learn the important lessons as long as we allow these tragedies to be politicized
              His wife said he didn't even practice religion. Said he used to beat her ass and her family had to help her escape. I guess she didn't have any brothers because the only guy ever put his hands on my sister ; got an ass whipping from my 4 brothers. I was in the service at the time. Just as you can train a dog not to piss on the carpet; you can train a scumbag not to put his hands on your sister.
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              • KRIT
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                #357

                First off that was 10 people who had knives, so really that isn't even comparable. 1 guy with a gun killing 50 people is a lot different than 10 people killing 29 people. Second of all, I'm guessing there aren't many mass killings with knives. I'd venture this was a lone incident.
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                • chico2663
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                  #358
                  Originally posted by KRIT
                  Here is a real simple question, why do we need a gun that shoots 180 times per minute?
                  I do agree with you there. Most people that I know who own guns would be for stricter controls. The only people that need that fire power are military and maybe swat,
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                  • Mac4Lyfe
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                    #359
                    Originally posted by chico2663
                    When did the shooting in houston happen. I live in north houston. As far as Ft. Hood you are totally wrong. You Can't carry on base. Only m.p.'s can. I was born there and have family in Killeen. Also did time at Ft. Jackson and Ft. Benning. It is illegal to carry on a base.


                    It happened a week and a half ago and we had to shelter in place.

                    After the 2009 shooting they changed the law to allow guns on base, you just have to register them and no you can't open carry. My point is that even in highly secured areas like a military base, crazy mutherfukkers can shoot and kill people before someone can do something in return. The guy in 2014 went to like 4 different places, even after he encountered an armed officer and still was able to kill more people. More guns is not the answer. We need to first provide better help to the mentally ill then second, we need to be able to monitor people more closely. And I'm one of the first people to say freedom from the government and I'm against the government snooping into our affairs but this shit has gotten out of control. Just like getting on an airplane, I'm glad we check folks, because it's too many stupid people out there.
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                    • chico2663
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                      #360
                      On March 23, 2010, Zheng Minsheng (郑民生)[7] 41, murdered eight children with a knife in an elementary school in Nanping,[8]Fujian province;[9] The attack was widely reported in Chinese media (called 南平实验小学重大凶杀案),[7] sparking fears of copycat crimes.[9] Following a quick trial, Zheng Minsheng was executed about one month later on April 28.[8] Media reported a history of mental health issues, but police stated that Zheng had no history of mental illness, contradicting earlier reports. Zheng said that he performed the attack after being turned down by a girl and suffering "unfair treatment" from the girl's wealthy family.
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                      • chico2663
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                        #361
                        Just a few hours after the execution of Zheng Minsheng in neighboring Fujian Province,[10] in Leizhou,[11] Guangdong another knife-wielding man named Chen Kangbing, 33 (陈康炳)[12] at Hongfu Primary School wounded 16 students and a teacher.[9] Chen Kangbing had been a teacher at a different primary school in Leizhou, but was on sick leave due to mental illness[12][13] He was sentenced to death by a court in Zhanjiang in June.[14]
                        On April 29 in Taixing,[8] Jiangsu, unemployed 47-year-old Xu Yuyuan went to Zhongxin Kindergarten[15] and stabbed 28 students and two teachers after stabbing the security guard;[9] most of the Taixing students were 4 years old.[16] The attack was the second in China in just two days.
                        On April 30, Wang Yonglai used a hammer to cause head injury to preschool children in Weifang,[8] Shandong, then used gasoline to commit suicide by self-immolation.[9]
                        May 2010[edit]

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                        • chico2663
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                          #362
                          An attacker named ** Huanming (吴环明), 48, killed seven children and two adults and injured 11 other persons with a cleaver at a kindergarten in Hanzhong, Shaanxi on May 12, 2010;[8] early reports were removed from the internet in China, for fear that mass coverage of such violence could provoke copycat attacks.[8][17] The attacker later committedsuicide at his house; he was the landlord of the school,[18] Shengshui Temple private kindergarten, and had been involved in an ongoing dispute with the school administrator about when the school would move out of the building.[18]
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                          • chico2663
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                            #363
                            On 4 August 2010, 26-year-old Fang Jiantang (方建堂) slashed more than 20 children and staff with a 60 cm knife, killing 3 children and 1 teacher at a kindergarten in Zibo,Shandong province. Of the injured, 3 other children and 4 teachers were taken to the hospital. After being caught Fang confessed to the crime. There was no known motive.[22]Since the start of the year, a total of 27 people had died and at least 80 were injured in various knife attacks.
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                            • chico2663
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                              #364
                              Wrong
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                              • bettilimbroke999
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                                #365
                                Originally posted by pavyracer
                                I don't think you understand the range and firepower of assault weapons. A security guy with a Glock is not going to stop a 30 round machine gun. The police SWAT team was the one who took him out. So unless you have SWAT teams stationed outside soft targets you are not going to stop this.
                                30 round machine gun?

                                See this is why democracy is dangerous...we let ppl vote on whether or not to have guns who have no earthly idea what they are talking about. A machine gun is a fully automatic weapon....it's a military weapon capable (in auto mode) of continuous firing as long as the trigger is held and can fire upwards of a 1000 rounds/min...a semi-auto weapon is capable of firing 1 round/trigger pull...this translates to about 45-60 rounds per minute but keep in mind a 30 round magazine would already run out of rounds at 30 and a new magazine would have to be retrieved from wherever the shooter had his magazines at in order to replace the empty mag to reload...at this particular point the shooter would stop firing and is extremely vulnerable to anyone with any gun (be it a semi-auto or revolver) as he's essentially unarmed. Even whilst shooting he is vulnerable to fire from all other directions....with whatever a couple hundred ppl with potentially a couple hundred directions of fire to defend from he is essentially a sitting duck to an armed populace.

                                However...since pussies are scared of guns and would prefer to be killed rather than be able to defend themselves the crowd is unarmed and he shoots them at will until people with guns finally show up and stop him.
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                                • ACoochy
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                                  #366
                                  Guns really are the problem here...

                                  20 years since last mass murder and proud of it
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                                  • Mac4Lyfe
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                                    #367
                                    Originally posted by chico2663
                                    YOU SOUND STUPID! Now you have me agreeing with brooks and it isn't a good feeling, How about the knife welding guy in china. If some jerk has a knife; you gonna thank a man with a gun. When those 2 guys that escaped from New York prison they tried to break into a home. A woman who was always griping at her husband about owning a gun stated" I thank GOD my husband didn't listen to me!"
                                    WTF? Reading comprehension much? Where did I say that no one should be able to own a gun? Yes, we should be able to protect ourselves by owning a gun. I have no problem with guns. What type of guns is where I draw the line and the I believe we have to have the ability to track gun purchases.. What reason would a civilian have to own an anti-aircraft gun? What reason would someone have a bazooka? or Tank with a gun turret? What legal reason should a civilian own an AR15?
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                                    • brooks85
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                                      #368
                                      Originally posted by ACoochy
                                      Guns really are the problem here...

                                      20 years since last mass murder and proud of it
                                      just lucky





                                      won't be every time
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                                      • chico2663
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                                        #369
                                        Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                                        http://www.people.com/article/allege...-suffered-ptsd

                                        It happened a week and a half ago and we had to shelter in place.

                                        After the 2009 shooting they changed the law to allow guns on base, you just have to register them and no you can't open carry. My point is that even in highly secured areas like a military base, crazy mutherfukkers can shoot and kill people before someone can do something in return. The guy in 2014 went to like 4 different places, even after he encountered an armed officer and still was able to kill more people. More guns is not the answer. We need to first provide better help to the mentally ill then second, we need to be able to monitor people more closely. And I'm one of the first people to say freedom from the government and I'm against the government snooping into our affairs but this shit has gotten out of control. Just like getting on an airplane, I'm glad we check folks, because it's too many stupid people out there.
                                        There was a wrestler in cincinnati (white guy) that got caught trying to buy guns for a terrorist attack. His dad was one of those conspiracy theorists and staunch republican ; thaat was living in subsidized housing, He was a "good" kid who converted to Islam.
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                                        • PittsburghPlayer
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                                          #370
                                          Originally posted by bettilimbroke999
                                          ... would stop firing and is extremely vulnerable to anyone with any gun (be it a semi-auto or revolver) as he's essentially unarmed. Even whilst shooting he is vulnerable to fire from all other directions....with whatever a couple hundred ppl with potentially a couple hundred directions of fire to defend from he is essentially a sitting duck to an armed populace.

                                          However...since pussies are scared of guns and would prefer to be killed rather than be able to defend themselves the crowd is unarmed and he shoots them at will until people with guns finally show up and stop him.
                                          Agree.
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                                          • chico2663
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                                            #371



                                            The ability to carry came in response to the Fort Hood shootings. I can't wait til we get a new president. Maybe that jerk will fry,
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                                            • Mac4Lyfe
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                                              #372
                                              Originally posted by chico2663
                                              Just a few hours after the execution of Zheng Minsheng in neighboring Fujian Province,[10] in Leizhou,[11] Guangdong another knife-wielding man named Chen Kangbing, 33 (陈康炳)[12] at Hongfu Primary School wounded 16 students and a teacher.[9] Chen Kangbing had been a teacher at a different primary school in Leizhou, but was on sick leave due to mental illness[12][13] He was sentenced to death by a court in Zhanjiang in June.[14]
                                              On April 29 in Taixing,[8] Jiangsu, unemployed 47-year-old Xu Yuyuan went to Zhongxin Kindergarten[15] and stabbed 28 students and two teachers after stabbing the security guard;[9] most of the Taixing students were 4 years old.[16] The attack was the second in China in just two days.
                                              On April 30, Wang Yonglai used a hammer to cause head injury to preschool children in Weifang,[8] Shandong, then used gasoline to commit suicide by self-immolation.[9]
                                              May 2010[edit]
                                              What do you think would have happened if these guys had access to AR15's???
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                                              • KingJD31
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                                                #373
                                                They do attack other countries,you for real?
                                                Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                Then why don't they attack Greece or other Christian countries that are within walking distance of Muslim countries?
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                                                • Plaza23
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                                                  #374
                                                  Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe

                                                  Here we have another case where the murderer got upset and was able to purchase an AR-15 gun within a few days of carrying out his mayhem. It's the same situation in just about all these cases, even on the streets of Chicago. Guy get's pissed and is able to go get a gun as easy as buying a bucket of chicken.
                                                  Chicago has a gun ban. WTF else do you want? A gun ban or gun law does not stop CRIMINALS from getting weapons. They can get whatever they want on the street. Most of these Chicago gangbangers are felons themselves. They aren't going to Walmart and buying a semi automatic weapon - they are buying that stuff on the black market.

                                                  Prohibition does not work. It never has. People intent on mayhem will get the necessary tools to create said mayhem. Who cares what method they use? The problem is the PEOPLE.

                                                  We got a bunch of inner city blacks that can't assimilate into society and they kill each other on a daily basis. We got a bunch of Muslims wanting to kill all of us, by any means necessary (plane hijackings, car bombs, kidnappings, etc etc).

                                                  We got a bunch of braindead SJW progressive liberal kooks blaming everyone else (EXCEPT THE PEOPLE PULLING THE TRIGGER).

                                                  I mean WTF. You are either extremely naive, or just ignorant.
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                                                  • chico2663
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                                                    #375
                                                    Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                                                    WTF? Reading comprehension much? Where did I say that no one should be able to own a gun? Yes, we should be able to protect ourselves by owning a gun. I have no problem with guns. What type of guns is where I draw the line and the I believe we have to have the ability to track gun purchases.. What reason would a civilian have to own an anti-aircraft gun? What reason would someone have a bazooka? or Tank with a gun turret? What legal reason should a civilian own an AR15?
                                                    My bad. I'm just so used to reading people threads where the beetch about guns than propose getting rid of them . Sorry for assuming you were one of those nuts.
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                                                    • Plaza23
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                                                      #376
                                                      Originally posted by ACoochy
                                                      Guns really are the problem here...

                                                      20 years since last mass murder and proud of it
                                                      If your country has few Muslims and few blacks, it'll be safe.

                                                      If your country has lots of Muslims, and Lots of blacks, it'll be dangerous.

                                                      Safety is all in the demographics. People blaming weapons, without looking at the people firing the weapons, are retards.
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                                                      • chico2663
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                                                        #377
                                                        Originally posted by Plaza23
                                                        Chicago has a gun ban. WTF else do you want? A gun ban or gun law does not stop CRIMINALS from getting weapons. They can get whatever they want on the street. Most of these Chicago gangbangers are felons themselves. They aren't going to Walmart and buying a semi automatic weapon - they are buying that stuff on the black market.

                                                        Prohibition does not work. It never has. People intent on mayhem will get the necessary tools to create said mayhem. Who cares what method they use? The problem is the PEOPLE.




                                                        We got a bunch of inner city blacks that can't assimilate into society and they kill each other on a daily basis. We got a bunch of Muslims wanting to kill all of us, by any means necessary (plane hijackings, car bombs, kidnappings, etc etc).

                                                        We got a bunch of braindead SJW progressive liberal kooks blaming everyone else (EXCEPT THE PEOPLE PULLING THE TRIGGER).

                                                        I mean WTF. You are either extremely naive, or just ignorant.
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                                                        • Jayvegas420
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                                                          #378
                                                          Lucky.



                                                          What about my Country?

                                                          Lucky too?

                                                          China has a shit ton more people than the US.
                                                          They just lucky too?

                                                          Couldnt have anything to do with the fact that we have smarter gun laws?

                                                          Nah. Norway, switzerland, New Zealand....all just lucky.

                                                          Its because of retards like you that cootch and i come off as "anti american". Idiots like you make us so mad that our posts come off angry and aggressive.

                                                          Brooks, you make me the most angry because in your case, i know its not an act.
                                                          We're just asking a simple question:
                                                          Do you think its possible that nealry every country has a lower mass shooting rate because they have a fraction of the guns?
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                                                          • Smoke
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                                                            #379
                                                            Originally posted by Plaza23
                                                            Chicago has a gun ban. WTF else do you want? A gun ban or gun law does not stop CRIMINALS from getting weapons. They can get whatever they want on the street. Most of these Chicago gangbangers are felons themselves. They aren't going to Walmart and buying a semi automatic weapon - they are buying that stuff on the black market.

                                                            Prohibition does not work. It never has. People intent on mayhem will get the necessary tools to create said mayhem. Who cares what method they use? The problem is the PEOPLE.

                                                            We got a bunch of inner city blacks that can't assimilate into society and they kill each other on a daily basis. We got a bunch of Muslims wanting to kill all of us, by any means necessary (plane hijackings, car bombs, kidnappings, etc etc).

                                                            We got a bunch of braindead SJW progressive liberal kooks blaming everyone else (EXCEPT THE PEOPLE PULLING THE TRIGGER).

                                                            I mean WTF. You are either extremely naive, or just ignorant.
                                                            To be fair, blacks in the streets of Chicago and ISIS is two different things. Why have their been no terrorist attacks in Chicago lately? It's because the gun ban works. Who cares if blacks are shooting each other. Stopping these terrorist thugs from getting guns is more important
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                                                            • bettilimbroke999
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                                                              #380
                                                              Originally posted by ACoochy
                                                              Guns really are the problem here...

                                                              20 years since last mass murder and proud of it
                                                              Where you from...where's this haven of non-violence...now that you've gotten rid of guns you might as well get rid of the police...now that you've eliminated the problem and solved all crime....where is this crime-free zone
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                                                              • chico2663
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                                                                #381
                                                                If these kids can make guns in a hut than what do you think American kids can do
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                                                                • Mac4Lyfe
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                                                                  #382
                                                                  Originally posted by bettilimbroke999
                                                                  30 round machine gun?

                                                                  See this is why democracy is dangerous...we let ppl vote on whether or not to have guns who have no earthly idea what they are talking about. A machine gun is a fully automatic weapon....it's a military weapon capable (in auto mode) of continuous firing as long as the trigger is held and can fire upwards of a 1000 rounds/min...a semi-auto weapon is capable of firing 1 round/trigger pull...this translates to about 45-60 rounds per minute but keep in mind a 30 round magazine would already run out of rounds at 30 and a new magazine would have to be retrieved from wherever the shooter had his magazines at in order to replace the empty mag to reload...at this particular point the shooter would stop firing and is extremely vulnerable to anyone with any gun (be it a semi-auto or revolver) as he's essentially unarmed. Even whilst shooting he is vulnerable to fire from all other directions....with whatever a couple hundred ppl with potentially a couple hundred directions of fire to defend from he is essentially a sitting duck to an armed populace.

                                                                  However...since pussies are scared of guns and would prefer to be killed rather than be able to defend themselves the crowd is unarmed and he shoots them at will until people with guns finally show up and stop him.
                                                                  A well trained guy can do much more damage with a semi-auto AR15 then less control with an automatic.

                                                                  Why would a shooter be extremely vulnerable in the few seconds it takes to reload? Wouldn't he just hide behind something? Do you really think you stand a better chance with a revolver?

                                                                  It might actually be worst if people in the crowd are armed. If a crazy ass mofo decides to open fire in a crowded public place, what are you going to do with your gun? You most likely don't even know who's shooting. You going to shoot in the general direction of the gun fire and end up killing a crowd of people yourself? By the time you identify the shooter, he's already killed 50 people. It is very difficult to avoid someone bent on killing people with no regard for their own lives. Metal detectors might have helped but he may have killed security at the door, I don't know. The notion of more people having guns in a crowded party is very scary. Now you have multiple people shooting and no one knows who the real shooter is. If you were standing right next to him when he started shooting, he most likely would have shot you before you had a chance to use your gun. Most people that survive these type of events are by pure luck.
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                                                                  • Plaza23
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                                                                    #383
                                                                    Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                                                                    Most of these guys are idiots. They have no clue how to make an effective bomb or what chemicals to use in a chemical attack.
                                                                    ISIS trained commandos are freaking MAGYVER when it comes to making bombs. You can find any of that information on the internet.
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                                                                    • Jayvegas420
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                                                                      #384
                                                                      Originally posted by bettilimbroke999
                                                                      Where you from...where's this haven of non-violence...now that you've gotten rid of guns you might as well get rid of the police...now that you've eliminated the problem and solved all crime....where is this crime-free zone
                                                                      Youre an idiot too.

                                                                      Theres violence in his country and my country too.

                                                                      Big difference.....
                                                                      I cant get out of my car with a grenade and kill a guy .

                                                                      Cootch encounters violence in his counrty too.

                                                                      Big Diffencence....
                                                                      He doesnt have a presidential candidate telling his country to protect their AK 47's & AR 14's.

                                                                      No one is saying your country is a hell hole.
                                                                      Just saying if you want to reduce the number of mass shooting you need gun law reform.

                                                                      If you like killing each other by the dozens then leave it the same.
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                                                                      • jtoler
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                                                                        #385
                                                                        Originally posted by ACoochy
                                                                        Guns really are the problem here...

                                                                        20 years since last false flag and proud of it
                                                                        ...
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