Epic Prison Escape in NY
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ByeSheaSBR Hall of Famer
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#841Comment -
Ra77erSBR Posting Legend
- 06-20-11
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#843Note to self, never click any links from Donker.Comment -
manny24SBR Posting Legend
- 10-22-07
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#844agree with Razzler
last time DonkerComment -
SmokeSBR Aristocracy
- 10-09-09
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#845Agree with donker
Las time mannyComment -
manny24SBR Posting Legend
- 10-22-07
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#846happy fathers day Smokey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Comment -
SmokeSBR Aristocracy
- 10-09-09
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#847Manny i am the fatherComment -
jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
- 07-20-05
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#848There's no way by Wednesday we're still talking about the cops looking themComment -
Roadtrip635SBR Hall of Famer
- 12-07-10
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#849
An Array of Oversights Set the Stage for Killers’ Escape
* Corrections officers were rarely shining lights over the faces of inmates during hourly bed checks, making it hard to know if a living, breathing person was inside a cell and allowing the inmates to work hours without notice.
* The catwalks and underground tunnels that made their getaway possible were no longer being inspected regularly in recent years.
* No one was inside two of the 35-foot-high guard towers when the two convicted killers climbed out
* Aggressive efforts through the years to cut as much overtime as possible, meaning that some security posts were no longer staffed.
* Officers said, inmates frequently were allowed to hang sheets for lengthy periods in front of cell bars.
* There are no video cameras on the cellblocks at the Clinton facility.
* In the past, inmates may have also found tools left by contractors on the catwalk.
* Had significant help from several people, including Joyce Mitchell and as many as four corrections officers.
About two weeks after a pair of murderers cut their way out of a N.Y. prison, their methods remain a substantial mystery.
Testing The Tools the Escapees Could Have UsedBattery-operated grinder 1 85-90 2 hours Corded grinder 1 86-97 1 ½ hours Heavy-duty grinder 1 95-99 2 hours Circular saw 2 93-101 50 mins. Reciprocating saw 8 87-93 ¾ hour Hacksaw < 0.1 68-70 20 hours
Methodology: For this informal experiment, we obtained a 24-inch pipe from Texas Pipe and Supply in Middlesex, N.J. Mr. Monck endeavored to cut as much of the pipe as possible in a five minute span with each tool in turn. Sound meters were set up 10 feet away.
Note: Time for reciprocating saw includes plunge cuts which took a total of 34 minutes for the four needed. Hacksaw time does not include plunge cutting, which we did not estimate, but likely would take many hours, if not days.
* The grinders were effective, but they spit a plume of sparks and smoke, and created a terrible din. The replaceable $2 abrasive wheels were worn out after four inches of cutting.
* The circular saw was faster, but louder from 10 feet away than a subway E train approaching 42nd Street at full speed.
* The reciprocating saw, equipped with a hardware-store blade, raced through the steel pipe. Even though it took a long time to make the initial hole in the pipe wall.
* The hacksaw, while stealthy, would take at least 10 times as long, working without breaks.Comment -
jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
- 07-20-05
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#851A lot of tremendous detail in this thread some of you guys should be private investigatorsComment -
Ra77erSBR Posting Legend
- 06-20-11
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#852Yes I concur JJ. Some very sharp posters here, I apologize for any interruptions previously in here. Roadtrip good chart, the hacksaw certainly the way to go.Comment -
jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
- 07-20-05
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#854nothing yet
I am into this stuff
This is make or break week to catch themComment -
Big BearSBR Aristocracy
- 11-01-11
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#855I heard they were spotted in Cooperstown NY.Comment -
Auto DonkSBR Aristocracy
- 09-03-13
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#857i should have just put the time of the video that the dude actually blows the paint out of his ass onto the canvas, but after watching it and seeing that fahg have "stage fright" the first time he tried to shit the paint out, all the while belting out some lameass Cyndi Lauper song, I felt it best to allow the unfortunate few who actually click on the link to get the "full effect" of that creation of art process.....Comment -
jtolerBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 12-17-13
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#858If these guys make it to Friday I'll be highly impressed.Comment -
Giants007SBR Wise Guy
- 06-03-15
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#859where is our guy with some more inside info ?Comment -
jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
- 07-20-05
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#860I'm starting to wonder are all these so-called spottings bogus?Comment -
Giants007SBR Wise Guy
- 06-03-15
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#861I find it hard to believe that these 2 would be walking down the railroad tracks in broad daylight in a tiny little town that has 1 stop lightComment -
icecapperSBR Wise Guy
- 09-29-09
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#863I'm in Buffalo and they were spotted yesterday 90 minutes away in Friendship NY. Staying inside for a few days.Comment -
Ra77erSBR Posting Legend
- 06-20-11
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#864The hispanic guy is the brains and the white kid is the big d1ck in my opinion. The paintings are irrelevant noise.
White guy is either dead or soon to be if not found.Comment -
manny24SBR Posting Legend
- 10-22-07
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#866prolly took their dads to Longhorns todayComment -
Big BearSBR Aristocracy
- 11-01-11
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#867i hope they never get caught
fukk the PoliceComment -
Ra77erSBR Posting Legend
- 06-20-11
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#868White guy was used initially to see if the girl would bite on having a relationship. Once that plan worked the Hispanic guy moved in for the kill. He lied to her about the getaway plan as just a ruse. Media with the paintings probably haven't even done their homework yet
Husband is in on the plan, or at least plan A.Comment -
jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
- 07-20-05
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#869Some officials say the catch is eminentComment -
Ra77erSBR Posting Legend
- 06-20-11
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#870The railroad in friendship is the key, does that thing run to Mexico/ or possibly back up to Canada?
They took the train from the prison. No car no Canada yet.
It looks like they got off in friendship and missed the next one.
The route looks like Buffalo/Pennsylvania but will probably head further south into the US unless they are caught before.Comment -
Ra77erSBR Posting Legend
- 06-20-11
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#871Mistakes will happen because of the pressure, done by tomorrow for sure.Comment -
jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
- 07-20-05
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#872I wonder why they didn't try to get to CanadaComment -
Ra77erSBR Posting Legend
- 06-20-11
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#873She didn't show up because the husband talked some sense into her. If she shows up, she's dead as a hammer and the husband knew it.
They probably originally planned for Canada but when the chick didn't show with the car they had to go to plan B. They immediately started south instead of north on foot because they assumed they wouldn't make the border on foot before the bells sounded. All speculation here but they probably snagged a car at some point or hit the railroads.Last edited by Ra77er; 06-21-15, 09:41 PM.Comment -
Ra77erSBR Posting Legend
- 06-20-11
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#875The only reason the husband is still involved is because mr hot shot dapper dressed Matt had them all scared for their lives. I would assume the authorites have already shaken down anyone in contact with Matt to include C.O's. Feels like this kind of plan takes way more than 4 to pull off.Comment
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