Do any of you consider Frank Mir @+350 on the Sat. card?

TankHankerous · 04-20-13, 06:05 PM

How about an answer from someone who doesn't have Mir tonight?

TankHankerous · 04-20-13, 06:06 PM

Elkins a mere stepping stone?

TheCrow · 04-20-13, 06:14 PM

this fight with frank mir looks way too easy for dc, that's why i have been taking a closer look. dc already stated in his interview before his last fight with dion staring that he wanted frank mir after. In looking at the interviews leading up to this fight tonight, i have been able to gather that daniel cormier is way too over confident to try and beat frank mir and then drop down to 205 to fight jon jones. I am very disappointed in daniel cormier's approach because i think very highly of cain velasquez. I still like dc but i think that a loss will really help his mind focus a lot more because he is not going to fight cain and cain to me is not going to lose his belt anytime soon. dc looks like the best bet right now to take down jon jones but he might be better off taking a few fights at 205 first.

i know it's really easy to think that frank mir will get knocked out because it's been almost a year since he was knocked out vs jds. That thought is subconsciously fresh on the minds of a lot of people betting but i go back to what dc did vs jeff monson. i know dc has gotten a lot better but i do question the technical aspect of his striking just a little bit. frank mir looked really slow and under trained vs the jds fight but now he went with greg jackson's camp for 8 weeks. frank mir's boxing may not really be that powerful as cormier but i think there's a really good chance that he has the technical aspect of the striking. The one thing that i give greg jackson camp the edge in this fight is that frank mir looks fit enough as seen at the weigh ins to have the footwork good enough to stay away from the power of daniel cormier. dc is not going to even care to take this fight to the ground and he's not going to get taken down unless frank mir is able to land a knockdown punch. i really do see that this fight is going to stay standing and i've selected the +145 odds of NOT Daniel Cormier inside the distance.

raydog · 04-20-13, 08:18 PM

mir looks so slow...makes you wonder what the talk about a great camp was about... he isnt doing anything...missed his opportunity to get him on the ground on the slip...

thewhiteguy · 04-20-13, 08:27 PM

bite his fukking ear mir

Sykes · 04-20-13, 08:29 PM

Originally posted by Sykes

Mir fuked up after he fought Lesner, he should of stayed smaller but put on to much mussle, against the top guys I reckon his only chance of winning is if his opponent makes a mistake and gives him a limb to break. DC beat Barnett pretty easy I see this one going the same, I think DC on points is decent odds, UD if you can get it.

touche

TheCrow · 04-20-13, 08:30 PM

lol funny 3rd round how you can see that dc wants absolutely no part of mir on the ground, dc will get the decision win but i'll chalk this one up as a "loss" for dc. this is not a dc that has a shot at beating jon jones looking like this, no way.

Russian Rocket · 04-20-13, 08:31 PM

a mediocre performance for Comrie, but he did get the W

Sykes · 04-20-13, 08:33 PM

Originally posted by Russian Rocket

a mediocre performance for Comrie, but hit did get the W

And he will do that all the time. Guy is 5'11'' should be fighting welterweight.

raydog · 04-20-13, 08:34 PM

i dont think there is any way possible for corm to trim down to lhw to fight jones...wonder how many years it has been since he was down to 205...he is just running his mouth...and he is definitely running it a bit too much for a man who couldnt put an old frank mir on the ground.

Russian Rocket · 04-20-13, 08:35 PM

Originally posted by Sykes

And he will do that all the time. Guy is 5'11'' should be fighting welterweight.

yeah he doesn't stand a chance against Jon Jones with an unreal wingspan

Ghenghis Kahn · 04-20-13, 08:35 PM

cormier has no chance vs jones...

Sykes · 04-20-13, 08:36 PM

I dunno if he can get to 205 could do damage, look at Rashad. Hes to small to KO them HW's though I reckon.

Demonata · 04-20-13, 08:41 PM

dang i was wrong retire mir. you suck now.

Sykes · 04-20-13, 08:46 PM

Man you look at him in the presser after the JDS fight - hes always with his dad does not really look like him, in that presser looked just like him, old and busted up. Dude fuked up bulking up after Lesner.

GunShard · 04-21-13, 03:31 AM

Originally posted by GunShard

Cormier to win by either TKO or decision.

Just as planned.

But I didn't expect Cormier to fight like shit.

MD · 04-21-13, 04:40 AM

Originally posted by GunShard

Just as planned.

But I didn't expect Cormier to fight like shit.

Did you seriously just bump a post touting a -400 favourite that almost everyone thought was a near-lock?

GunShard · 04-21-13, 05:55 AM

Originally posted by MD

Did you seriously just bump a post touting a -400 favourite that almost everyone thought was a near-lock?

I don't believe in locks. I'm going to avoid betting on any Cormier fight from now on.

Rubber Guard · 04-21-13, 08:01 AM

Originally posted by Russian Rocket

a mediocre performance for Comrie, but he did get the W

I'm sure he will take many of these "mediocre" performances where he wins every round. Mir landed what? 3 kicks the whole fight? DC walled him because he wasn't going to take him down and into his world. Most any other HW he would have dumped on their head repeatedly.

Mir had nothing at all for DC. Yes he didn't KO him. Cain didn't KO JDS for 5 rounds. Overeem didn't KO Bigfoot and actually was himself. DC was rather impressive considering he is still knew to the sport. He landed several hard shots, just not the shot. He easily out-muscled the much bigger Mir. He stuck to a gameplan.

You can't say anyone besides Cain or JDS is better than DC right now.

If Randy Couture walls and dirty boxes someone it is BRILLIANT!. If a GREEN MMA fighter still fairly new to the sport does it effortlessness it was a bad performance.

Russian Rocket · 04-21-13, 08:18 AM

Originally posted by Rubber Guard

I'm sure he will take many of these "mediocre" performances where he wins every round. Mir landed what? 3 kicks the whole fight? DC walled him because he wasn't going to take him down and into his world. Most any other HW he would have dumped on their head repeatedly.

Mir had nothing at all for DC. Yes he didn't KO him. Cain didn't KO JDS for 5 rounds. Overeem didn't KO Bigfoot and actually was himself. DC was rather impressive considering he is still knew to the sport. He landed several hard shots, just not the shot. He easily out-muscled the much bigger Mir. He stuck to a gameplan.

You can't say anyone besides Cain or JDS is better than DC right now.

If Randy Couture walls and dirty boxes someone it is BRILLIANT!. If a GREEN MMA fighter still fairly new to the sport does it effortlessness it was a bad performance.

I didn't say it was bad, it was a somewhat of boring tactic (with very little aggression) that he used that raised some eyebrows, but it paid off and I'm sure that it was his game plan. It reminded me of a fight between Maia and Jon Fitch, where Maia was doing the same thing over and over again and eventually earned an easy victory.
A lot people were expecting more out of Cormier, but a win is a win.

Vaughany · 04-21-13, 12:42 PM

Originally posted by GunShard

Just as planned.

But I didn't expect Cormier to fight like shit.

you iz the man! picking winnerz for shitz and gigglez

NunyaBidness · 04-21-13, 12:47 PM

Originally posted by MD

Did you seriously just bump a post touting a -400 favourite that almost everyone thought was a near-lock?

You're missing the point. He's saying that he knew Cormier wouldn't win by sub.

Vaughany · 04-21-13, 12:49 PM

ha What was "Not Cormier by Sub"?! -400000?

pouyasophy · 04-21-13, 12:53 PM

Originally posted by Vaughany

ha What was "Not Cormier by Sub"?! -400000?

come on vaugany...give him some respect...all the sharps had not cormier by sub -400000 in all their parlays