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  • NunyaBidness
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    • 07-26-09
    • 9345

    #106
    Originally posted by PunisherIND
    intrade has this at 50-50 now. still value on NOT getting passed at +140. however, in light of yesterday's movement, the line might actually get better.
    For the first time since polling on the issue began, Colorado's Amendment 64, the ballot initiative to regulate marijuana like…


    My theory, pot smokers answer the phone but don't leave the house.
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    • PunisherIND
      SBR MVP
      • 02-24-11
      • 4983

      #107
      Originally posted by NunyaBidness
      Quit your crying, I lost ONE HUNDRED DOLLARS. That shit doesn't grow on trees. I don't even no what this game they were playing is. I trusted you, I believed in you, I counted on you. How could you let this happen to my TWO THOUSAND NICKELS!?!!?!?!??

      I gave you a 2% edge on the Debate prop for $50 limits and this is how you repay me?

      I hope you think about me and my TEN-THOUSAND PENNIES when you go to bed tonight. I know I will be.
      i'm telling you brah, first and last time that i tail vaughany's futbol picks.
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      • NunyaBidness
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        • 07-26-09
        • 9345

        #108
        Originally posted by Vaughany
        Ok, well here's my non-MMA related play! ...Man City -1 A.H. against Ajax tomorrow at +131
        THANKS A LOT!!!!!

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        • NunyaBidness
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          • 07-26-09
          • 9345

          #109
          Originally posted by PunisherIND
          i'm telling you brah, first and last time that i tail vaughany's futbol picks.
          I'm thinking about asking to have him banished him from my thread. Do you know any trustworthy mods?
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          • Vaughany
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 03-07-10
            • 45563

            #110
            ha I'll make it up to u boyz with some MMA winnerz come November time!
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            • PunisherIND
              SBR MVP
              • 02-24-11
              • 4983

              #111
              5d: romney to win pennsylvania +500 (fair value +350)
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              • NunyaBidness
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                • 07-26-09
                • 9345

                #112
                Well, lucky for you I just made it back on something called a Dodig. Whatever that thing does or is.
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                • PunisherIND
                  SBR MVP
                  • 02-24-11
                  • 4983

                  #113
                  Originally posted by NunyaBidness
                  I'm thinking about asking to have him banished him from my thread. Do you know any trustworthy mods?

                  lol, hey vaughany, can you point me to any mods that actually moderate around these parts?
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                  • Vaughany
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                    • 03-07-10
                    • 45563

                    #114
                    ha against Leyton Hewitt..Must of been a nice dog?
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                    • PunisherIND
                      SBR MVP
                      • 02-24-11
                      • 4983

                      #115
                      Originally posted by NunyaBidness
                      http://reason.com/blog/2012/09/16/po...egalization-in

                      My theory, pot smokers answer the phone but don't leave the house.
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                      • Vaughany
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 03-07-10
                        • 45563

                        #116
                        Originally posted by PunisherIND
                        lol, hey vaughany, can you point me to any mods that actually moderate around these parts?
                        ha My generic answer to this kind of questions is: I suggest you speak to Bigday...although I believe he's busy hunting Wild Boar at present
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                        • NunyaBidness
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                          • 07-26-09
                          • 9345

                          #117
                          Originally posted by Vaughany
                          ha My generic answer to this kind of questions is: I suggest you speak to Bigday...although I believe he's busy hunting Wild Boar at present
                          Funny, I thought I was the only one who called it that.
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                          • NunyaBidness
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                            • 07-26-09
                            • 9345

                            #118
                            Originally posted by Vaughany
                            ha against Leyton Hewitt..Must of been a nice dog?
                            +110. Tried to find a play by play, not sure if it went to decision or if Dodig caught him in some sort of a sub.
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                            • PunisherIND
                              SBR MVP
                              • 02-24-11
                              • 4983

                              #119
                              Originally posted by NunyaBidness
                              Funny, I thought I was the only one who called it that.
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                              • Vaughany
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 03-07-10
                                • 45563

                                #120
                                Originally posted by NunyaBidness
                                +110. Tried to find a play by play, not sure if it went to decision or if Dodig caught him in some sort of a sub.
                                ha Heard he has a great back-hand (slap)
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                                • Vaughany
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 03-07-10
                                  • 45563

                                  #121
                                  Originally posted by NunyaBidness
                                  Funny, I thought I was the only one who called it that.
                                  hehe
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                                  • PunisherIND
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 02-24-11
                                    • 4983

                                    #122
                                    not to beat a dead horse, but the colorado amendment is at +175 now. whats most confusing to me is that the intrade market is pretty spot on for the other two ballot initiatives
                                    Colorado Amendment 64 to be passed by voters in Nov 2012 ballot 50.0%
                                    Colorado Amendment 64 to be passed -245
                                    Colorado Amendment 64 won't pass +175

                                    Oregon Measure 80 to be passed by voters in Nov 2012 ballot 11.1% (+800)
                                    Oregon Measure 80 to be passed +550
                                    Oregon Measure 80 won't pass -1050

                                    Washington Initiative (I-502) to be passed by voters in Nov 2012 ballot 74% (-285)
                                    Washington Initiative I-502 to be passed -300
                                    Washington Initiative I-502 won't pass +220
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                                    • NunyaBidness
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 07-26-09
                                      • 9345

                                      #123
                                      A timely article:


                                      "A 2009 paper by David Rothschild found that FiveThirtyEight’s forecasts were somewhat better than Intrade’s over the course of the 2008 presidential election cycle. Mr. Rothschild wrote, however, that Intrade’s forecasts would have outperformed FiveThirtyEight’s had they been corrected to adjust for the market’s tendency to overrate the chances of the trailing candidate (what is known as a favorite-long shot bias). Of course, if that bias still applies in Intrade’s pricing, it would imply that the market is overrating Mr. Romney’s chances now as he is the underdog in the race."
                                      Last edited by NunyaBidness; 10-24-12, 08:29 PM.
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                                      • MD
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 01-31-12
                                        • 9728

                                        #124
                                        Originally posted by NunyaBidness
                                        I'll answer whatever, but the best answer I can give you for anything is read the big 3 books, and seek out posts from guys like Ganchrow and RSigley, they know a million times what I know.
                                        I am ordering one of the books you recommended, and I've spent numerous hours this evening reading posts and articles from Ganchrow. Much appreciated.

                                        I'm sure knowing I actually took your advice isn't worth much, but I figured I'd let you know that you, at the very least, didn't waste your time. Thanks again.
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                                        • NunyaBidness
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 07-26-09
                                          • 9345

                                          #125
                                          Originally posted by PunisherIND
                                          not to beat a dead horse, but the colorado amendment is at +175 now. whats most confusing to me is that the intrade market is pretty spot on for the other two ballot initiatives
                                          Colorado Amendment 64 to be passed by voters in Nov 2012 ballot 50.0%
                                          Colorado Amendment 64 to be passed -245
                                          Colorado Amendment 64 won't pass +175

                                          Oregon Measure 80 to be passed by voters in Nov 2012 ballot 11.1% (+800)
                                          Oregon Measure 80 to be passed +550
                                          Oregon Measure 80 won't pass -1050

                                          Washington Initiative (I-502) to be passed by voters in Nov 2012 ballot 74% (-285)
                                          Washington Initiative I-502 to be passed -300
                                          Washington Initiative I-502 won't pass +220
                                          I dunno, it's strange. My first thought is that the way they're marketing it (you're getting the pot leaf intro too, right?) that its bringing out the potheads to vote yes on it, while the unconcerned aren't going to give it another look. But as you point out, why aren't the other ones moving?

                                          There is active trading in this market right now, 30 shares today, so the market isn't stagnant.

                                          I'm going to keep betting it and assume intrade bettors know more than 5d does. Problem with betting some of these things early though is perception can change a lot. I was killing the market in all of my state bets, but now the market is killing me.
                                          Last edited by NunyaBidness; 10-24-12, 08:20 PM.
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                                          • NunyaBidness
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 07-26-09
                                            • 9345

                                            #126
                                            Originally posted by MD
                                            I am ordering one of the books you recommended, and I've spent numerous hours this evening reading posts and articles from Ganchrow. Much appreciated.

                                            I'm sure knowing I actually took your advice isn't worth much, but I figured I'd let you know that you, at the very least, didn't waste your time. Thanks again.
                                            I appreciate the compliment, and love helping those who want to learn. I didn't invent any of this stuff and learned most of it from posters on other forums.
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                                            • PunisherIND
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 02-24-11
                                              • 4983

                                              #127
                                              Pay it forward, like haley joel osmett
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                                              • Vitooch
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 09-26-11
                                                • 3470

                                                #128
                                                Just saw this in Player's Talk thought you would enjoy it...

                                                Originally Posted by k13
                                                Does it really make a difference if you get +1 or -1 or whatever?
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                                                • PunisherIND
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 02-24-11
                                                  • 4983

                                                  #129
                                                  Originally posted by NunyaBidness
                                                  A timely article:


                                                  "A 2009 paper by David Rothschild found that FiveThirtyEight’s forecasts were somewhat better than Intrade’s over the course of the 2008 presidential election cycle. Mr. Rothschild wrote, however, that Intrade’s forecasts would have outperformed FiveThirtyEight’s had they been corrected to adjust for the market’s tendency to overrate the chances of the trailing candidate (what is known as a favorite-long shot bias). Of course, if that bias still applies in Intrade’s pricing, it would imply that the market is overrating Mr. Romney’s chances now as he is the underdog in the race."
                                                  i hope this proves true.

                                                  "It is unusual for differences like these to persist for very long in well-functioning markets, because they would potentially enable a trader to make a risk-free profit by selling Mr. Romney’s stock short at Intrade, where it is expensive, and then betting on him at one of the sports books or at another prediction market, where it is relatively cheap. The fact that these relatively wide spreads exist between the different markets suggest that they are relatively illiquid and that they entail high transaction costs, which may limit their efficiency."

                                                  hehe. did you transfer those funds into intrade?
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                                                  • Educ8d Degener8
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                                                    • 01-12-10
                                                    • 3177

                                                    #130
                                                    Dorks.
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                                                    • NunyaBidness
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 07-26-09
                                                      • 9345

                                                      #131
                                                      Originally posted by PunisherIND
                                                      i hope this proves true.

                                                      "It is unusual for differences like these to persist for very long in well-functioning markets, because they would potentially enable a trader to make a risk-free profit by selling Mr. Romney’s stock short at Intrade, where it is expensive, and then betting on him at one of the sports books or at another prediction market, where it is relatively cheap. The fact that these relatively wide spreads exist between the different markets suggest that they are relatively illiquid and that they entail high transaction costs, which may limit their efficiency."

                                                      hehe. did you transfer those funds into intrade?

                                                      Yeah, I sent in a wire yesterday. Waiting for them to receive it.
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                                                      • PunisherIND
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 02-24-11
                                                        • 4983

                                                        #132
                                                        Originally posted by Beelzebubzy
                                                        any value in Demi Lovato group to win X Factor at +400
                                                        where you getting these odds bubz? winner will most likely be on britne spears team, but if not, it would be lovato.

                                                        i almost played lovato at +350 on bovada, so i do like the +400 that you're getting.
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                                                        • PunisherIND
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 02-24-11
                                                          • 4983

                                                          #133
                                                          Originally posted by NunyaBidness
                                                          Romney to win Ohio +195 Bodog (arbable at many places)
                                                          lots of action on obama today.

                                                          romney to win ohio +240 on 5dimes (fair value +145)
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                                                          • PunisherIND
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 02-24-11
                                                            • 4983

                                                            #134
                                                            NFL player props

                                                            5dimes - josh freeman over 1.5 tds +135
                                                            bovada - freeman under 1.5 tds +110

                                                            about 15 mins to get this in
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                                                            • Beelzebubzy
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                                                              • 06-06-11
                                                              • 6995

                                                              #135
                                                              Originally posted by PunisherIND
                                                              where you getting these odds bubz? winner will most likely be on britne spears team, but if not, it would be lovato.

                                                              i almost played lovato at +350 on bovada, so i do like the +400 that you're getting.
                                                              Bookmaker has it at +400
                                                              Britney is at +200
                                                              Simon +165
                                                              LA Reid +250 or so
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                                                              • Beelzebubzy
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                                                                • 06-06-11
                                                                • 6995

                                                                #136
                                                                Originally posted by Beelzebubzy
                                                                Bookmaker has it at +400
                                                                Britney is at +200
                                                                Simon +165
                                                                LA Reid +250 or so
                                                                Actual

                                                                27505 SIMON COWELL +180
                                                                27506 BRITNEY SPEARS +220
                                                                27507 L.A. REID +235
                                                                27508 DEMI LOVATO +400
                                                                MAkes no sense because they have this

                                                                27501 MALE +125
                                                                27502 FEMALE -165
                                                                27503 GROUP +475
                                                                Simon has the groups. I dont watch the show. The future Mrs. Bubzy does and Simon has the groups and does not know if the teams get switched up
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                                                                • PunisherIND
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 02-24-11
                                                                  • 4983

                                                                  #137
                                                                  Originally posted by Beelzebubzy
                                                                  Bookmaker has it at +400
                                                                  Britney is at +200
                                                                  Simon +165
                                                                  LA Reid +250 or so
                                                                  Wow lines way off if what I'm being told is accurate. Biggest favorite to win is a young girl on britney team. Bovada has brit at even. Simon is coaching the groups - very unlikely that a group wins this type of competition. People generally vote for individuals. Reid coaching older folk. Again, unlikely to win bc people who watch the show are typically younger.bovada has simon and reid at +400.
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                                                                  • Beelzebubzy
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 06-06-11
                                                                    • 6995

                                                                    #138
                                                                    Originally posted by PunisherIND
                                                                    Wow lines way off if what I'm being told is accurate. Biggest favorite to win is a young girl on britney team. Bovada has brit at even. Simon is coaching the groups - very unlikely that a group wins this type of competition. People generally vote for individuals. Reid coaching older folk. Again, unlikely to win bc people who watch the show are typically younger.bovada has simon and reid at +400.
                                                                    Yeah I agree. I have a 5er on Demi cause 1 my woman loves Britney so me betting Demi pisses her off, and 2, her group seems the most marketable to the shows demographic.

                                                                    I need to get a bovado account. Next bouncy white castle I sell, Ill open one
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                                                                    • PunisherIND
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 02-24-11
                                                                      • 4983

                                                                      #139
                                                                      Originally posted by Beelzebubzy
                                                                      Actual

                                                                      27505 SIMON COWELL +180
                                                                      27506 BRITNEY SPEARS +220
                                                                      27507 L.A. REID +235
                                                                      27508 DEMI LOVATO +400
                                                                      MAkes no sense because they have this

                                                                      27501 MALE +125
                                                                      27502 FEMALE -165
                                                                      27503 GROUP +475
                                                                      Simon has the groups. I dont watch the show. The future Mrs. Bubzy does and Simon has the groups and does not know if the teams get switched up
                                                                      Yea those second set of lines make sense. Dont think they change teams but you should look into that to be safe.

                                                                      Lol I dont watch it either.
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                                                                      • Beelzebubzy
                                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                        • 06-06-11
                                                                        • 6995

                                                                        #140
                                                                        Originally posted by PunisherIND
                                                                        Yea those second set of lines make sense. Dont think they change teams but you should look into that to be safe.

                                                                        Lol I dont watch it either.
                                                                        Dont be lying to me punisher. I know you are doing Hog analysis on Simon to make sure his shows succeed
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